Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread hruodr
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013, James Griffin wrote: [...] But when people don't listen, or continuosly repeat themselves unnecessarily, the discussion digresses and becomes irrelevent and/or annoying for those of us subscribed to the list. That's the point I tried to make. Anyway, this is digressing

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Why? With a group of others, I started setting up an Internet Exchange in Calgary, and this has taken much time because it is highly politicized and has encountered some resistance. So has your internet access (ISP) improved too since a while back or just locally and what resistance did you

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Scott McEachern
On 10/08/13 07:20, Kevin Chadwick wrote: So has your internet access (ISP) improved too since a while back or just locally and what resistance did you encounter - pro surveillance? The UK broadband speeds have shot up and become more of an asset but they are also becoming far more of a

error: [drm:pidX:i915_get_vblank_timestamp] *ERROR* Invalid crtc 1

2013-10-08 Thread Atanas Vladimirov
Hi, I got many i915_get_vblank_timestamp errors error: [drm:pid3:i915_get_vblank_timestamp] *ERROR* Invalid crtc 1 on intel 865G (dmesg below). Any help is appreciated. ### dmesg # OpenBSD 5.4-current (GENERIC) #63: Tue Oct 1 12:33:25 MDT 2013

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Kyle R W Milz
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 08:20:32AM -0400, Scott McEachern wrote: I didn't want to bring this up before, but it might be an interesting discussion, even though off-topic. Feel free to ignore this part of the thread. After reading Theo's post, I wondered what effect an IX had on what we now

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Scott McEachern
On 10/08/13 10:33, Kyle R W Milz wrote: Now here is where things get interesting, from the data centre to my home: [...] Take a look at the 5th and 6th hops, they are in the US. The data goes from Calgary to Vancouver down into the US to Seattle and then all the way back to Calgary. So long

Pandaboard ES dmesg 9/26/2013 armv7 snapshot

2013-10-08 Thread Diana Eichert
In case any one is interested, thought I'd post a dmesg from a Pandaboard ES running an OpenBSD snapshot from Sept 26, 2013. There was one glitch on the install but was able to manually work around it to get it working. Glitch has been reported to the developers. diana -- Forwarded

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Martin Schröder
2013/10/8 Kyle R W Milz k...@getaddrinfo.net: I guess if the NSA has coerced with CSIS or whatever the Canadian equivalent is then there might be cause for worry there (quite likely as we parrot almost everything the US does). YYCIX is subject to canadian laws. It likely must have a lawful

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Food for thought for everyone, but like I said, he doesn't care and won't think about it. As I say I am far more concerned about 'modern' incompetent ISP's. Uncaring ISPs or ISP's that can only care about profit (and so advertising) or they are out of business and tasking them (perhaps to

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Scott McEachern
On 10/08/13 16:36, Martin Schröder wrote: YYCIX is subject to canadian laws. It likely must have a lawful interception interface for the canadian police/whatever. Americans are subject to the highest law of the land: The US Constitution. You know, that document the President and damned near

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Richard Thornton
I am not flippant enough to say that the NSA revelations do not matter, but what are we supposed to do? The Middle Eastern terrorism threat is real and we need to be able to stop them anyway necessary. All it takes is one of them to hit every Walmart in the neighborhood, buy every pay-as-you-go

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Scott McEachern
On 10/08/13 16:41, Kevin Chadwick wrote: As I say I am far more concerned about 'modern' incompetent ISP's. Uncaring ISPs or ISP's that can only care about profit (and so advertising) or they are out of business and tasking them (perhaps to their delight) with layer 7 filtering which requires

Looking for good, small, canadian version laptop suggestions

2013-10-08 Thread g.lister
Hi guys, I am looking for some suggestions for a good, small quite laptop. I was looking at futureshop.ca and bestbuy.ca. I currently have an HP dv3 which runs OpenBSD 5.2 but it is veeey loud some issue with keeping heat down it has i7 cores but I am willing to settle for a lot less

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread thornton . richard
I used to work at empire blue cross. I had many friends who worked in the Trade Towers.I lived for a time in Battery Park nearby.So go to hell asshole, the USA will neverLet another 9/11 happen again, And Snowden is quite the jerk. These guys were recently planning attacks on Toronto as a matter

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Zé Loff
The Middle Eastern terrorism threat is real and we need to be able to stop them anyway necessary. All it takes is one of them to hit every Walmart in the neighborhood, buy every pay-as-you-go phone they have, then pass them out to their friends in every Mosque. Well fuck you and your

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Martin Schr?der [mar...@oneiros.de] wrote: 2013/10/8 Kyle R W Milz k...@getaddrinfo.net: I guess if the NSA has coerced with CSIS or whatever the Canadian equivalent is then there might be cause for worry there (quite likely as we parrot almost everything the US does). YYCIX is subject

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Scott McEachern
On 10/08/13 17:38, Richard Thornton wrote: I am not flippant enough to say that the NSA revelations do not matter, but what are we supposed to do? The Middle Eastern terrorism threat is real and we need to be able to stop them anyway necessary. All it takes is one of them to hit every Walmart

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Scott McEachern
On 10/06/13 20:48, dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: Now, why do I mention this in relation to OpenBSD? Well, at the end of 2007 someone decided to open an impersonation account on twitter in my name, and start sending a mix of things I have said (see wikiquote for instance), with things that I

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread thornton . richard
I love OpenBSD, seriously, and developers of it are clearly geniuses. And any chance I get I promote it. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. From: Scott McEachernSent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 7:17 PMTo: misc@openbsd.orgSubject: Re: Sorry OpenBSD people,

Re: ospfd and testing link flapping

2013-10-08 Thread Doran Mori
Thanks for the acknowledgement. Seems bgpd is also a victim of this logic, but I haven't looked in the code to make sure. :] My workaround has been to filter (by various means) the redundant prefixes (some are unneeded due to my simple setup) from ever entering the routing table. dmo On Sat,

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Scott McEachern
On 10/08/13 20:42, thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote: I love OpenBSD, seriously, and developers of it are clearly geniuses. And any chance I get I promote it. Excellent, and I applaud you for that. You should take a look at the papers/presentations the devs have given. The stuff Theo wrote

Best OpenBSD cloud hosting?

2013-10-08 Thread opendaddy
Hi, Can anyone recommend a decent OpenBSD cloud hosting provider? Digital Ocean looks nice but they don't yet offer OpenBSD (https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os-). There's ARP Networks and TransIP but they don't offer clouds.

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Indunil Jayasooriya
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Scott McEachern sc...@blackstaff.ca wrote: On 10/08/13 20:42, thornton.rich...@gmail.com wrote: I love OpenBSD, seriously, and developers of it are clearly geniuses. And any chance I get I promote it. Excellent, and I applaud you for that. My favourite O/S

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Richard Thornton
The NSA is just a backdrop against the real corruption, which guys like Sen. Ted Cruz, who intentionally manipulate the markets by threatening to default on USA debt. Only an idiot would not assume these Senators are selling their stocks before this stupid debate, drive the markets down, buy on

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Scott McEachern
On 10/08/13 22:35, Indunil Jayasooriya wrote: My favourite O/S is also OpenBSD. Theo and his guys protect the world. so they are naturally protected. Almost, but not quite. Theo actually has a devoted core of followers around the globe, highly trained in gung-fu, krav maga, and ninjitsu.

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Benjamin Heath
Adding to your previous thoughts, it became clear to me some years ago that the best way to gather information on someone is to find information which they've volunteered. Facebook and other social networks have a space to select your religion, sexual identity, location, school, work, and contact

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Scott McEachern
On 10/08/13 22:44, Benjamin Heath wrote: Adding to your previous thoughts, it became clear to me some years ago that the best way to gather information on someone is to find information which they've volunteered. The US Army, namely D/arpa and the Navy, invented the Internet and onion

Re: Sorry OpenBSD people, been a bit busy

2013-10-08 Thread Benjamin Heath
On Oct 8, 2013 8:21 PM, Scott McEachern sc...@blackstaff.ca wrote: On 10/08/13 22:44, Benjamin Heath wrote: But that's just it, isn't it? People are naive. They go to public schools where they are taught to accept what is popular and reject all else, and that's where much of it starts.