Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Riley Baird
On 07/12/14 09:35, Adam Thompson wrote: On 14-12-06 03:20 PM, Riley Baird wrote: Okay, I'll change the name. What I'm wondering is, which mentions of the OpenBSD name should I change? For example, you said before that the OpenBSD name may not be removed from the license headers of source

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Riley Baird
On 07/12/14 09:05, Daniel Dickman wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Riley Baird bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch wrote: I have a few questions about OpenBSD's trademark policy. (I tried looking, but I couldn't find a document.) 1. What is OpenBSD's stance on allowing

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2014-12-07 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 22:36:37 -0600 Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: There's something fairly weaselous about this all... this: didn't want to notify you. You might be right about OpenSSL maintainers (although I think you are not) - I just don't know, and can't speak for them - but

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Kaspars Bankovskis
On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 07:35:03PM +1100, Riley Baird wrote: As for why I want to create the distro, I think that OpenBSD has excellent security, and I would like to create a version without the binary-only microcode included. What exactly do you mean by that?

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Brad Smith
On 12/07/14 03:35, Riley Baird wrote: As for why I want to create the distro, I think that OpenBSD has excellent security, and I would like to create a version without the binary-only microcode included. Doesn't really make any sense why. But either way hopefully you're not using common

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Riley Baird
On 07/12/14 19:53, Kaspars Bankovskis wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 07:35:03PM +1100, Riley Baird wrote: As for why I want to create the distro, I think that OpenBSD has excellent security, and I would like to create a version without the binary-only microcode included. What exactly do you

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Riley Baird
On 07/12/14 19:59, Brad Smith wrote: On 12/07/14 03:35, Riley Baird wrote: As for why I want to create the distro, I think that OpenBSD has excellent security, and I would like to create a version without the binary-only microcode included. Doesn't really make any sense why. But either way

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Riley Baird said: As for why I want to create the distro, I think that OpenBSD has excellent security, and I would like to create a version without the binary-only microcode included. Isn't it easier to just do # cd /mnt/etc; tar czf firmware{.tgz,}; rm -R firmware from bsd.rd after

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Riley Baird
On 07/12/14 20:20, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: Riley Baird said: As for why I want to create the distro, I think that OpenBSD has excellent security, and I would like to create a version without the binary-only microcode included. Isn't it easier to just do # cd /mnt/etc; tar czf

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Joel Rees
Hi, Riley, On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Riley Baird bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch wrote: On 07/12/14 09:05, Daniel Dickman wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Riley Baird bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch wrote: I have a few questions about

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 08:29:48PM +1100, Riley Baird wrote: On 07/12/14 20:20, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: Riley Baird said: As for why I want to create the distro, I think that OpenBSD has excellent security, and I would like to create a version without the binary-only microcode

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Brad Smith
On 12/07/14 04:29, Riley Baird wrote: However, remember that if someone doesn't know much about OpenBSD, they will either: a) think that OpenBSD does not contain binary-only firmware due to the Blob-Busters marketing or b) not know where to look to remove it should they wish to Your

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Riley Baird
I have a few questions about OpenBSD's trademark policy. (I tried looking, but I couldn't find a document.) 1. What is OpenBSD's stance on allowing derivative distros to keep the name OpenBSD throughout the system? It's a ton of work to change the name. I'm curious why you want to create a

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Riley Baird
On 07/12/14 20:52, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 08:29:48PM +1100, Riley Baird wrote: On 07/12/14 20:20, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: Riley Baird said: As for why I want to create the distro, I think that OpenBSD has excellent security, and I would like to create a version

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Brad Smith
On 12/07/14 05:18, Riley Baird wrote: On 07/12/14 20:52, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 08:29:48PM +1100, Riley Baird wrote: On 07/12/14 20:20, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: Riley Baird said: As for why I want to create the distro, I think that OpenBSD has excellent security, and

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Riley Baird
On 07/12/14 21:32, Brad Smith wrote: On 12/07/14 05:18, Riley Baird wrote: On 07/12/14 20:52, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 08:29:48PM +1100, Riley Baird wrote: On 07/12/14 20:20, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: Riley Baird said: As for why I want to create the distro, I think

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Riley Baird bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch wrote: I have a few questions about OpenBSD's trademark policy. (I tried looking, but I couldn't find a document.) 1. What is OpenBSD's stance on allowing derivative distros to keep the name

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Riley Baird
On 07/12/14 21:51, Joel Rees wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Riley Baird bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch wrote: I have a few questions about OpenBSD's trademark policy. (I tried looking, but I couldn't find a document.) 1. What is OpenBSD's stance on allowing

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Riley Baird bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch wrote: On 07/12/14 21:51, Joel Rees wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Riley Baird [...] I see your point, but I'm just wondering - if you are recommending that I get a lawyer, is that because

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Martin Schröder
2014-12-06 9:45 GMT+01:00 Riley Baird bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch: I have a few questions about OpenBSD's trademark policy. (I tried looking, but I couldn't find a document.) Is OpenBSD actually a registered trademark? The USPTO doesn't list it. FreeBSD is, though. Best

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Kaspars Bankovskis
Your changes to the system will be very small, and most of the time you'll be just renaming 'openbsd' to something else, and syncing back changes from upstream. If you have time for that, lucky you. But there are more useful things to do, don't you think so?

Re: segmentation fault during package build

2014-12-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Miod Vallat wrote: I can confirm the spurious segmentation faults or `double free' issues with an SM40 module, and I am currently investigating the issue. Fine. That means that using the SM40 instead of the SM50 won't probably help. I will try though, just to be sure. They are both

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Bryan Steele
On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 07:35:03PM +1100, Riley Baird wrote: I agree entirely. For this reason, I think it would be best to keep system internals (e.g. uname, includes, etc.) using the name OpenBSD with only the main user-visible parts changed to a new name. As for why I want to create the

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Luiz Roberto dos Santos
At 7 Dec 2014 12:42:41 + (UTC) from Kaspars Bankovskis kasp...@bankovskis.net: there are more useful things to do, don't you think so? Agree. Riley, I think you don't get the point here. The firmware blob are *not* running on the system, but on device. Why do you don't create just a script

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Riley Baird said: However, remember that if someone doesn't know much about OpenBSD, they will either: a) think that OpenBSD does not contain binary-only firmware due to the Blob-Busters marketing or b) not know where to look to remove it should they wish to This information is easily

Proposed patch to unmute Azalia sound card on Compaq 610

2014-12-07 Thread Alessandro DE LAURENZIS
Greetings, Some days ago I installed OBSD 5.6 on my old Compaq 610 laptop (a pretty standard CORE2 Duo 2010 machine - yes, I know that standard is a kind of hard concept in the i386/amd64 world...), dmesg in [1]. Great hardware support, except that sound card was completely silent (dmesg with

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Adam Thompson
On 14-12-07 06:37 AM, Martin Schröder wrote: Is OpenBSD actually a registered trademark? The USPTO doesn't list it. FreeBSD is, though. The answer appears to be no, as CIPO doesn't list it, either. My guess is that keeping the lights on (literally) was a higher priority than paying the annual

apmd.8 lacks of hibernation quirks info

2014-12-07 Thread Alessandro DE LAURENZIS
Greetings, With OpenBSD 5.6 release, I finally have a pretty functional (and usable) hibernation function (not on all my hardware, but at least for a not-so-recent HP laptop it works!). I was digging into my scripts in order to apply some quirks before hibernating the machine, and noticed that

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 09:37:13 -0600 Adam Thompson athom...@athompso.net wrote: On 14-12-07 06:37 AM, Martin Schröder wrote: Is OpenBSD actually a registered trademark? The USPTO doesn't list it. FreeBSD is, though. The answer appears to be no, as CIPO doesn't list it, either. My guess is

man afterboot - discouraging usage of space characters in root password

2014-12-07 Thread Adam Wolk
Hi all, I would like to ask what is the reason for man afterboot discouraging the usage of the space character in root passwords. Root password Change the password for the root user. (Note that throughout the documentation, the term ``superuser'' is a synonym for the root user.)

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Carson Chittom
Adam Thompson athom...@athompso.net writes: On 14-12-07 06:37 AM, Martin Schröder wrote: Is OpenBSD actually a registered trademark? The USPTO doesn't list it. FreeBSD is, though. The answer appears to be no, as CIPO doesn't list it, either. My guess is that keeping the lights on

Re: man afterboot - discouraging usage of space characters in root password

2014-12-07 Thread Mxher
Hi Adam, Le 07/12/2014 19:30, Adam Wolk a écrit : Hi all, I would like to ask what is the reason for man afterboot discouraging the usage of the space character in root passwords. Root password Change the password for the root user. (Note that throughout the documentation,

Re: apmd.8 lacks of hibernation quirks info

2014-12-07 Thread Mike Larkin
On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 06:05:16PM +0100, Alessandro DE LAURENZIS wrote: Greetings, With OpenBSD 5.6 release, I finally have a pretty functional (and usable) hibernation function (not on all my hardware, but at least for a not-so-recent HP laptop it works!). Which machines don't work, and

fatal page fault in supervisor mode

2014-12-07 Thread pavel pocheptsov
Hi list, I've got this error and I don't what it is about. Is something wrong with my hardware, like RAM? Could someone point me in right direction to resolve this error? Dec  7 11:35:33 gw /bsd: uvm_fault(0xd0a2, 0xcfc0, 0, 3) - e Dec  7 11:35:33 gw /bsd: fatal page fault (6) in

Re: wsconsctl dislay.brightness stopped working after upgrade to 5.6

2014-12-07 Thread Frank Groeneveld
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 02:30:26PM +0100, Frank Groeneveld wrote: I might be able to find out what change caused this regression if somebody can hint where to look. I've already crawled through most of the intel drm code, but I think this must be somewhere in the ACPI layer. Where should I

Re: fatal page fault in supervisor mode

2014-12-07 Thread Ted Unangst
On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 22:03, pavel pocheptsov wrote: Dec 7 11:35:33 gw /bsd: OpenBSD 5.0 (GENERIC.MP) #59: Wed Aug 17 10:19:44 Honestly, this is way too old. There have been hundreds of bugs fixed since then.

Re: man afterboot - discouraging usage of space characters in root password

2014-12-07 Thread Stefan Wollny
Am 12/07/14 um 19:30 schrieb Adam Wolk: Hi all, I would like to ask what is the reason for man afterboot discouraging the usage of the space character in root passwords. Root password Change the password for the root user. (Note that throughout the documentation, the term

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Jorge Gabriel Lopez Paramount
I think the same, if running a command after installing it will make your system free enough, what is the need of a fork? I think that if you publish a web page with that information the OpenBSD community would not take that as an offense. I'm in the middle of leaving Debian after almost 15

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Riley Baird
After a private conversation with Theo, I've decided that I'm not going to respond to any of your emails for 4-6 days. You'll still get a response, but just not now. :)

Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Theo de Raadt
After a private conversation with Theo, I've decided that I'm not going to respond to any of your emails for 4-6 days. You'll still get a response, but just not now. :) Riley, you seem to take yourself far more seriously then the rest of us do.

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2014-12-07 Thread Jay Reffner
Anyone had any problems getting iked to adhere to revoked certificates? I can log in with a valid cert but can also log in using the same cert after it's been revoked using # ikectl ca vpn certificate xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx revoke . I tried restarting iked but it still behaved the same. Any

Re: Squid configuration

2014-12-07 Thread sven falempin
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2014-12-02, sven falempin sven.falem...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am more or less forced to test Squid. OpenBSD test.my.domain 5.6 GENERIC.MP#333 amd64 I have two problems: WARNING! Your cache is running out

Re: Squid configuration

2014-12-07 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014/12/07 15:57, sven falempin wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2014-12-02, sven falempin sven.falem...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am more or less forced to test Squid. OpenBSD test.my.domain 5.6 GENERIC.MP#333 amd64 I have

Re: Squid configuration

2014-12-07 Thread sven falempin
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2014/12/07 15:57, sven falempin wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2014-12-02, sven falempin sven.falem...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am more or less

Re: segmentation fault during package build

2014-12-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hello Miod, Miod Vallat wrote: I can confirm the spurious segmentation faults or `double free' issues with an SM40 module, and I am currently investigating the issue. I swapped in the ol' SM40 instead of SM50 and after a make clean, build still failed, still in tcl. So yes, both modules are

[OT] Re: OpenBSD Trademark Policy

2014-12-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Jorge Gabriel Lopez Paramount wrote: I'm in the middle of leaving Debian after almost 15 years of using it, due to the systemd affair. And as you might guess it has not been easy, I have enough (personal) systems and experience invested to leave Debian only for a tantrum, but there is no

Re: man afterboot - discouraging usage of space characters in root password

2014-12-07 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Stefan Wollny wrote on Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 08:32:00PM +0100: Am 12/07/14 um 19:30 schrieb Adam Wolk: I would like to ask what is the reason for man afterboot discouraging the usage of the space character in root passwords. Root password Change the password for the root user.

changing password after install

2014-12-07 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Alexander, [ moved back to misc@, let's not discuss such a minor issue on source-changes@ ] Alexander Hall wrote on Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 12:31:43AM +0100: On December 8, 2014 12:05:30 AM CET, Ingo Schwarze wrote: CVSROOT: /cvs Module name: src Changes by:

Re: OpenBSD 5.6-current on ASUS Chromebox

2014-12-07 Thread Gene
I did not. In fact both HDMI and Displayport outputs worked fine. I also tried the system on a 2560x1440 monitor, that worked as well. I did not test audio, didn't do very much desktop stuff. Firefox and xterm work fine. I still need to spend some time on learning how to install another

OpenBSD 5.6/current on Soekris 6501-70

2014-12-07 Thread Martin Hanson
Hi, Anyone running OpenBSD 5.6 or current on Soekris 6501-70 who wouldn't mind sharing some through-put data for gigabit performance. Regards, MH

broken links on site

2014-12-07 Thread Luiz Roberto dos Santos
Hi, Since I don't know if the OpenBSD Project still providing support for these products, I don't make a diff, sorry. The following links are broken on http://www.openbsd.org/products.html RTMX (http://www.rtmx.com/) PowerCrypt (http://www.powercrypt.com/) Core Systems (http://www.core.dk/)

Re: OpenBSD 5.6/current on Soekris 6501-70

2014-12-07 Thread Martin Hanson
I would like to be able to run ~100-120 MB/s from one NIC to the other on this box, if possible?

Re: OpenBSD 5.6/current on Soekris 6501-70

2014-12-07 Thread Gene
Search the mailing list history. If you can't find that specific model Soekris you'll likely be able to find information for that NIC chipset (the Intel 82574L). -Gene On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Martin Hanson greencopperm...@yandex.com wrote: Hi, Anyone running OpenBSD 5.6 or current

Re: OpenBSD 5.6/current on Soekris 6501-70

2014-12-07 Thread jungle Boogie
Hi Martin, On 7 December 2014 at 18:18, Martin Hanson greencopperm...@yandex.com wrote: I would like to be able to run ~100-120 MB/s from one NIC to the other on this box, if possible? Take a look a look at these threads: https://www.mail-archive.com/misc%40openbsd.org/msg133961.html

Re: OpenBSD 5.6/current on Soekris 6501-70

2014-12-07 Thread Gene
I mentioned it one of those threads, I have the 2550L2D-MxPC and one of the NICs died after nine months of use. I might just be unlucky, but I feel its worth mentioning. -Gene On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 8:05 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Martin, On 7 December 2014 at 18:18,

Re: OpenBSD 5.6/current on Soekris 6501-70

2014-12-07 Thread Gene
I misspoke, in both cases. It died on the 14th month. -Gene On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Gene gh5...@gmail.com wrote: I mentioned it one of those threads, I have the 2550L2D-MxPC and one of the NICs died after nine months of use. I might just be unlucky, but I feel its worth mentioning.

Re: OpenBSD 5.6/current on Soekris 6501-70

2014-12-07 Thread jungle Boogie
Hi Gene, On 7 December 2014 at 20:39, Gene gh5...@gmail.com wrote: I mentioned it one of those threads, I have the 2550L2D-MxPC and one of the NICs died after nine months of use. I might just be unlucky, but I feel its worth mentioning. I probably glossed right over that post. Would you still

Re: broken links on site

2014-12-07 Thread Gene
Hahaha. When I went to powercrypt.com it sent me to a different site tried to get me to download an Adobe Flash installer, and not from Adobe's website. -Gene On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Luiz Roberto dos Santos arrowscr...@mail.com wrote: Hi, Since I don't know if the OpenBSD Project

Re: fatal page fault in supervisor mode

2014-12-07 Thread bodie
On 07.12.2014 20:03, pavel pocheptsov wrote: Hi list, I've got this error and I don't what it is about. Is something wrong with my hardware, like RAM? Could someone point me in right direction to resolve this error? Dec  7 11:35:33 gw /bsd: uvm_fault(0xd0a2, 0xcfc0, 0, 3) - e Dec  7

Re: DNS: how to verify glue NS records?

2014-12-07 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Alexei Malinin on Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:49:59 +0300: - the question is - how and with what tools (dig, host, nslookup, or maybe C or Perl libs) can I verify the NS glue records in the parent zone of my ISP (zone transfers are denied)? The entries in the ADDITIONAL SECTION below

Re: OpenBSD 5.6/current on Soekris 6501-70

2014-12-07 Thread Brad Smith
On 12/07/14 21:18, Martin Hanson wrote: I would like to be able to run ~100-120 MB/s from one NIC to the other on this box, if possible? The NICs should be fine but I'd be worried that even the -70 model would be CPU limited for such throughput. -- This message has been scanned for viruses