--- Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use of non-free software is highly harmful to your
computer and ethics.
Please cite a piece of software that can harm my computer merely
because it is non-free in the FSF/GNU sense. And you should probably
qualify that ethics remark with: Should you
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:51:39PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
Then you are misunderstanding OpenBSD's goals which are clearly stated
at the link I provided you and that you obviously failed to read.
I understand the goals that are not written on that page: do what you
like and fight for
On 06/01/2008, at 3:28 AM, Karthik Kumar wrote:
On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we don't mind our users
installing
non free software if it is what they want. The FAQ is where this
needs to
be documented for users to get their job done faster.
If you don't mind users using non-free
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:39:17PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
On Jan 5, 2008 11:20 PM, William Boshuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 09:58:47PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we don't mind our users
installing
non free
(apologies to Karthik who will receive this mail twice)
On 05/01/2008, Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 5, 2008 11:20 PM, William Boshuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 09:58:47PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
On another hand we are not GNU/GPL and we don't mind
Reid Nichol wrote:
--- Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use of non-free software is highly harmful to your
computer and ethics.
Please cite a piece of software that can harm my computer merely
because it is non-free in the FSF/GNU sense. And you should probably
qualify that
Karthik Kumar wrote:
Firmware are not free enough when they have a license that does not
allow them to be redistributed with the system.
You are talking of free as in freedom and not price, right? If the
whole point was to avoid paying $$$ in OpenBSD, my bad.
The GNG foundation
Karthik Kumar wrote:
It's been a while since I removed links on that page. And
for the information I very much use OpenBSD. Maybe I should change the
title to Free as in beer OSes.
No. Free is free.
Free as in beer is unethical to children who view the website and wonder
what beer tastes
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:28:53AM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
On Jan 6, 2008 12:26 AM, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 5, 2008 11:28 PM, Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I represent neither FSF nor OpenBSD. I probably represent the
community which listens to the
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:42:16AM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
Firmware are not free enough when they have a license that does not
allow them to be redistributed with the system.
You are talking of free as in freedom and not price, right? If the
whole point was to avoid paying $$$ in
On 1/5/08, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does ReactOS recommend non-free software?
If so. please show me what it says, and the URL.
I have a better idea. Why don't you do your own fucking homework.
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:14:27 +0100
Jacob Grydholt Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're missing the point why somebody is calling OpenBSD non-free.
Or supposedly why emacs runs on non-free.
And you apparently missed the posts where the leading developers of
OpenBSD stated that they don't
On 1/5/08, Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I said everybody, I meant Everybody. Not one person. Applying the
same to OpenBSD, all that the people here do is bitch about and
nothing more.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Why, they haven't provided me with a free
upgrade for, what 2, 3
On 1/5/08, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no such thing as free as in beer. This is one of the dumbest
analogies I have ever heard. Who came up with it anyway? Was it the
Thank you.
But, like all good political slogans, it is stupid like a fox: the
hucksters who push it
--- Shane J Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 06/01/2008, at 3:28 AM, Karthik Kumar wrote:
If you don't mind users using non-free software, you shouldn't be
putting the 'Free. ' in 'Free. Functional. Secure.'
Huh? OpenBSD is built from free software and allows users the freedom
to do
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:28:39 -0800 (PST)
Reid Nichol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well OpenBSD is fine here. But, are you sure about RMS? Because he
has been contradicting himself all over the place in this thread alone.
Richard appears to be falling into a single point of failure setup.
Its
--- Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 6, 2008 1:06 AM, Reid Nichol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use of non-free software is highly harmful to your
computer and ethics.
Please cite a piece of software that can harm my computer merely
--- Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I understand the goals that are not written on that page: do what you
like and fight for what you believe in. Goals are just text written
in a stupid web page until you live up to them.
Which OpenBSD does. You have failed to show otherwise.
We do
On 1/5/08, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does ReactOS recommend non-free software?
If so. please show me what it says, and the URL.
I have a better idea. Why don't you do your own fucking homework.
Oh come now. You can't expect a hypocrite to do homework that
undermines
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 08:39:35PM -0600, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:28:39 -0800 (PST)
Reid Nichol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well OpenBSD is fine here. But, are you sure about RMS? Because he
has been contradicting himself all over the place in this thread
On Jan 6, 2008 1:22 AM, Jacob Grydholt Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 05/01/2008, Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use ports. I am not dumb. :P The goals do not specify to encourage
people to use
non-free software, but I see that happening anyway.
And so what? I think you
On Jan 5, 2008 11:51 PM, Karthik Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then you are misunderstanding OpenBSD's goals which are clearly stated
at the link I provided you and that you obviously failed to read.
I understand the goals that are not written on that page: do what you
like and fight for
There is no such thing as free as in beer. This is one of the dumbest
analogies I have ever heard. Who came up with it anyway? Was it the
FSF by any chance?
A guy called it 'Free as in Sex' here. Blame him for the next dumbest term. :P
By now if you have been carefully studying you
On Jan 6, 2008 4:25 AM, Gilles Chehade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:42:16AM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
Firmware are not free enough when they have a license that does not
allow them to be redistributed with the system.
You are talking of free as in freedom and
On 1/3/08, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm following the same principles that I apply to others.
I've explained both these principles and my actions; the readers
can judge all aspects for themselves.
I guess I missed the part where you explained how it makes sense to
apply a
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:00:55PM +, Miod Vallat wrote:
Rui Miguel Silva is continually making you guys remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from the cc's of your messages.
FYI, I continually remove people from the CC on mailing-list posts.
Yet you have no idea whether these people are
03, 2008 12:48 PM
To: Openbsd Misc (E-mail)
Subject: Re: FW: Real men don't attack straw men
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
Wow... it is incredibly telling that you chose a game, a pretty
obscure one at that as far as I can tell, to base your
On 04/01/2008, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is the same with your recommended system GNU/Darwin:
http://www.gnu-darwin.org/index.php?page=ports
Who also contains instructions to install the such port system.
Thank you for telling me about this problem. I will
On Jan 4, 2008 9:14 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:00:55PM +, Miod Vallat wrote:
Rui Miguel Silva is continually making you guys remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from the cc's of your messages.
FYI, I continually remove people from the CC
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:15:08PM +0530, Siju George wrote:
On Jan 4, 2008 1:03 AM, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rui Miguel Silva is continually making you guys remove
from the cc's of your messages.
Who knows?
Perhaps He gets Paid for it, and for this violent defense of
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 07:08:12PM -0700, L wrote:
That is an insult! Why are you being so mean to Marco?
Right, his extreme insults are meaningless and unprovocative.
And why are you being so mean to me too? I read this list too!
You are insulting me!
Right, did the hat fit? Because I said
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 11:02:09AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
Richard, you are too stupid to go and learn FACTS before you open
your big fat lying mouth.
Since you did it three times so rapidly, I am calling you a liar. And
since you refuse to undo your commercial support in
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 09:56:03AM +0100, Karl Sjodahl - dunceor wrote:
This is a unmoderated list and unsubscribed people can mail to it.
If one doesn't want to hear what outsiders want to say, then perhaps
posting should be restricted to list members.
Rui
--
This statement is false.
Today
On Jan 4, 2008 10:51 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 09:56:03AM +0100, Karl Sjodahl - dunceor wrote:
This is a unmoderated list and unsubscribed people can mail to it.
If one doesn't want to hear what outsiders want to say, then perhaps
posting
[This message was generated by an automated system.]
I am not on vacation, but I am at the end of a long time delay. I am
located somewhere on Earth, but as far as responding to email is concerned,
I appear to be well outside the solar system.
After your message arrives at gnu.org, I will
On Dec 14, 2007 9:49 PM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You *can't relicense* code under your choice without the author consent
period!
That BSD license gives permission for almost any kind of use,
including distributing the code under other licenses.
I don't think so. The
On Jan 4, 2008 2:52 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:15:08PM +0530, Siju George wrote:
On Jan 4, 2008 1:03 AM, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rui Miguel Silva is continually making you guys remove
from the cc's of your messages.
2008/1/4, David Vasek [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sounds like he is hiding somewhere in Tora Bora.
Regards,
David
Actually I got that message in a private conversation with him as
well, he do reply within 48 hours time frame so I don't think he is
hiding in Tora Bora.
--
Please avoid sending me
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 3:21 PM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: FW: Real men don't attack straw men
Daniel Ouellet wrote:
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:33:26PM -0700
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 05:44:59PM +0530, Siju George wrote:
:-) that was to the guy who called you a troll right?
I said perhaps you are a paid FSF mercenary or as you accused me
delusional :-)
I wish I was paid to only work on Free Software, I'd be much more
productive.
Rui
--
Today is
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, Richard M. Stallman - Autoreply Message wrote:
[This message was generated by an automated system.]
I am not on vacation, but I am at the end of a long time delay. I am
located somewhere on Earth, but as far as responding to email is concerned,
I appear to be well outside
2008/1/4, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 07:08:12PM -0700, L wrote:
That is an insult! Why are you being so mean to Marco?
Right, his extreme insults are meaningless and unprovocative.
And why are you being so mean to me too? I read this list too!
You
Rui, I kindly ask you to not remove Richards's e-mail, since he is as
interested as everyone else who follows this thread.
Richard does not receive duplicated e-mail, since he is not in
misc@openbsd.org, so don't hesitate to add him.
Greetings.
FYI, I continually remove people from the CC on mailing-list posts.
Yet you have no idea whether these people are subscribed to these
mailing lists.
If they are not, why do their emails get into the mailing list?
Because they sent it to it.
Some moderator enjoys letting flames come
that's right, it's there!
eh, Richard, my mom told me once that it is the best thing to tell
truth, even when the truth is salty, as when you start to lie, you
cannot stop and eventually you get all your lies exposed.
Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux) DAV/2 SVN/1.2.0 PHP/4.3.10-22
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:26:12PM -0800, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Jan 4, 2008 1:22 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Otherwise why should he repeatedly say some thin that is not
proprietary as proprietary even after being informed by tedu and
others?
Because for me
On Jan 4, 2008 1:22 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Otherwise why should he repeatedly say some thin that is not
proprietary as proprietary even after being informed by tedu and
others?
Because for me it is proprietary when I can't run it in a commercial
context.
you
On Jan 4, 2008 2:31 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I find even more hysterical is your lack of english comprehension,
for what I said is that restrictions against commercial usage make it
proprietary, not that I need that piece of software.
you still don't get to
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:49:45PM -0800, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Jan 4, 2008 2:31 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I find even more hysterical is your lack of english comprehension,
for what I said is that restrictions against commercial usage make it
proprietary,
On Jan 4, 2008, at 14:26, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 4, 2008 1:22 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Otherwise why should he repeatedly say some thin that is not
proprietary as proprietary even after being informed by tedu and
others?
Because for me it is
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
know what proprietary means. if you don't
understand the big words, stop using them. you also totally failed to
comprehend the license.
No, I understood it quite well.
Yes, no I did not understood it nor not quite never well.
what i find even more
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
Neither do you
that's insulting.
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:49:45PM -0800, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Jan 4, 2008 2:31 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I find even more hysterical is your lack of english comprehension,
for what I said is that restrictions against
The wget he uses is worse.
You can download any non-free software with it and it does not warn
the user at all!!!
I don't object to general-purpose tools just for being general.
I was a bit curious about what would someone who reads web-sites by
using a wget daemon through e-mails whose own web-site looks like...
well...
Apache httpd 2.0.54 ((Debian GNU/Linux) DAV/2 SVN/1.2.0 PHP/4.3.10-22
mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7e)
I use wget for personal
Before you argue that ReactOS is merely a free implementation of Win32
API, let me clarify: if the purpose of ReactOS isn't to run some
Windows-only software S, then what is the purpose of ReactOS? if S was
free, it wouldn't be Windows-only as it would have ported to free
OS's.
My favorite organization, the FSF, was not involved. If
any of my friends were involved, they did not inform me.
Good friends you have then.
More likely they aren't my friends. You may have noticed that the
Linux developers disagree with my philosophy. I know very few of
http://directory.fsf.org/project/Windows32API/
http://directory.fsf.org/project/wxwindows/
http://wxwindows.org/about/credits.htm
see the acknowledgment from one of the softwares endorsed by FSF your
favourite organization.
keeps objecting that he doesn't object.
In fact many of the people did expect this when you favorite
organization lost the battle publically on Reyk's code that your
friends stole and tried to impose your license on it, and when they
even tried vainly to go legal by the advice of a un-educated american
lawyer but
Mr. Stallman, I respect you for what you've managed to achieve as an individual.
But, frankly, this thread has really gotten way out of control.
A few days back everything had kind-a settled down and we got the
impression that the thread had fortunately died, but that's not been
the case, you
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 08:19:38PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
Nobody out here is going to listen to what you're going to say, and
you are going to go on and on about how you were justified in labeling
OpenBSD as not compliant with your interpretation of the word free,
which we don't give a
Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
Mr. Stallman, I respect you for what you've managed to achieve as an
individual.
But, frankly, this thread has really gotten way out of control.
A few days back everything had kind-a settled down and we got the
impression that the thread had fortunately died, but
On Jan 3, 2008 3:20 PM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In fact many of the people did expect this when you favorite
organization lost the battle publically on Reyk's code that your
friends stole and tried to impose your license on it, and when they
even tried vainly
From: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:03 AM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Real men don't attack straw men
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 08:19:38PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
Nobody out here is going to listen to what you're going to say, and
you are going to go
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:38:08AM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
From: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
He's not labelling OpenBSD non-free, just non-free-friendly because some
non-free are distributed in the ports site.
And yet, you still don't have it quite right. Saying that the ports system
Mayuresh Kathe schrieb:
Mr. Stallman,
...
Nobody out here is going to listen to what you're going to say, and
you are going to go on and on about how you were justified in labeling
OpenBSD as not compliant with your interpretation of the word free,
which we don't give a farthing for.
Hello Mayuresh,
a possible reason can be that he is thinking Some
of it might stick.
Not likely.
Go back under your rock, along with RMS and the rest
of the bunch.
--
Michael Schmidt MIRRORS:
Watcom
ftp://ftp.fh-koblenz.de/pub/CompilerTools/Watcom/
OpenOffice
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 03:53:26PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
[blablabla]
Since I'm (at least) smart enough not to install proprietary software,
I don't have a strong problem with it, but for someone like RMS who
want's to be able to recommend strictly Free Software operating
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:04:44AM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 03:53:26PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
Since I'm (at least) smart enough not to install proprietary software,
I don't have a strong problem with it, but for someone like RMS who
want's to be
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 04:50:27PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:04:44AM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 03:53:26PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
Since I'm (at least) smart enough not to install proprietary software,
I don't
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:04:44AM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 03:53:26PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
Since I'm (at least) smart enough not to install proprietary software,
I don't have a strong problem with it, but for
Why don't you tell us about emacs and gcc as Theo said?
If you don't want to answer nothing new here
Don't feed the troll!!
While reading this thread the course it has taken really surprises me.
I dont agree with Richards take on OpenBSD. I think OpenBSD is fine,
good for recommendations for a truly free OS. But what really surprises
me is that Stallman has resorted to blatant troll like posting just to
incite a
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:22:35AM -0700, L wrote:
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:04:44AM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 03:53:26PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
Since I'm (at least) smart enough not to install proprietary
From: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:53 AM
To: Openbsd Misc (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Real men don't attack straw men
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:38:08AM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
From: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
He's not labelling OpenBSD non-free, just
non
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
Wow... it is incredibly telling that you chose a game, a pretty
obscure one at that as far as I can tell, to base your argument on.
The world will fall because OpenBSD recommends that people
install a game... a game that is free
On Jan 3, 2008 10:28 PM, Ruben Gonzalez Arnau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why don't you tell us about emacs and gcc as Theo said?
If you don't want to answer nothing new here
The wget he uses is worse.
You can download any non-free software with it and it does not warn
the user at all!!!
nostromo:tobiasu$ for x in blahblah STFU. KTHXBYE; do banner $x; done
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On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 01:23:21PM -0500, William Boshuck wrote:
Richard Stallman referred to certain URLs in certain Makefiles
in the ports tree---not the collection of packages, after (in
the interview which indirectly prompted this thread) confusing
OpenBSD's ports tree with its
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:48:13PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
Wow... it is incredibly telling that you chose a game, a pretty
obscure one at that as far as I can tell, to base your argument on.
The world will fall
L wrote:
GCC for ms WIndows does not even REQUIRE thinking first. Everyone
knows GCC is a great Windows Proprietary compiler to create
proprietary software.. it's just a cheaper compiler than MS VC. It
is so easy to get or make GCC on windows, because Stallman knows
his figurehead will
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
le that have an OpenBSD CD to install the OS have the chance to use
MORE free software than before.
That's got nothing to do with what was talked about. It's not about the
OpenBSD cd, but about having ...
http://www.openbsd.org/4.2_packages/i386.html
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 06:30:44PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 01:23:21PM -0500, William Boshuck wrote:
Richard Stallman referred to certain URLs in certain Makefiles
in the ports tree---not the collection of packages, after (in
the interview which
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:48:13PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
Wow... it is incredibly telling that you chose a game, a pretty
obscure one at that as far as I can tell, to base your argument on.
The world will fall
From: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:48 PM
To: Openbsd Misc (E-mail)
Subject: Re: FW: Real men don't attack straw men
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
Wow... it is incredibly telling that you chose a game, a pretty
obscure one
Watch your blood pressure there Stuart.
-Original Message-
From: Stuart VanZee[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3-1-08 20:23:52
To: Openbsd Misc (E-mail)misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: FW: Real men don't attack straw men
From: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:48 PM
This list is actually the first place I read of widespread use of GCC
for making proprietary software. Since so many lies are said about what
RMS promotes or not, I don't feel confident in taking your word for it
(specially since you seem to resort easily into insults).
This just underscores
On 1/3/08, Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The wget he uses is worse.
You can download any non-free software with it and it does not warn
the user at all!!!
And electricity! I'm pretty sure (unless I'm misinformed) he uses
electricity provided by plants and distribution systems that are
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 03:02:40PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 08:19:38PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
Nobody out here is going to listen to what you're going to say, and
you are going to go on and on about how you were justified in labeling
OpenBSD as not
don't attack straw men
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
Wow... it is incredibly telling that you chose a game, a pretty
obscure one at that as far as I can tell, to base your argument on.
The world will fall because OpenBSD recommends that people
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:40:47AM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 04:50:27PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:04:44AM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 03:53:26PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
Since I'm (at
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:33:26PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
Rui Miguel Silva is continually making you guys remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from the cc's of your messages.
FYI, I continually remove people from the CC on mailing-list posts.
I consider it rude to receive duplicate email.
If you
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:34:24PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
It would be nice if people would stop defending non defensible
hypocritical positions. His arguments are a misleading hyperbole.
Your attitude is also indefensible and ostentiously hypocritical, with a
rudeness that only adds
Re-adding RMS.
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:34:24PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:48:13PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:05:37PM -0500, Stuart VanZee wrote:
Wow... it is incredibly telling that you chose a game, a pretty
obscure
Rui Miguel Silva is continually making you guys remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from the cc's of your messages.
FYI, I continually remove people from the CC on mailing-list posts.
Yet you have no idea whether these people are subscribed to these
mailing lists.
I consider it rude to receive
Marco Peereboom wrote:
This list is actually the first place I read of widespread use of GCC
for making proprietary software. Since so many lies are said about what
RMS promotes or not, I don't feel confident in taking your word for it
(specially since you seem to resort easily into insults).
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 12:34:24PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
It would be nice if people would stop defending non defensible
hypocritical positions. His arguments are a misleading hyperbole.
Your attitude is also indefensible and ostentiously
Hmmm Mr. Stallman is this your home page: stallman.org
I was a bit curious about what would someone who reads web-sites by
using a wget daemon through e-mails whose own web-site looks like...
well...
Apache httpd 2.0.54 ((Debian GNU/Linux) DAV/2 SVN/1.2.0 PHP/4.3.10-22
mod_ssl/2.0.54
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