Zeb Packard zeb.packard at gmail.com writes:
One thing I noticed is
that they're having a hell of a time transitioning away from the
traditional sysvinit-based system to the Upstart event-based init
daemon system.
Hi Zeb,
I still don't get the online start, could you talk me through it?
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:16 PM, J Sisson sisso...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Juan Miscaro jmisc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 July 2011 15:06, jirib ji...@devio.us wrote:
Are you kidding? Ubuntu? Where installed daemons are running by default,
where there is no command to
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Juan Miscaro jmisc...@gmail.com wrote:
Was wondering what advantages OpenBSD has over a progressive Linux
distribution such as Ubuntu (Server edition). One thing I noticed is
that they're having a hell of a time transitioning away from the
traditional
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:13:10 -0700
patrick keshishian wrote:
added daemons have different connotations from those included in obsd
base, and this also applies to debian and derivatives. the closest
parallel would be packages built from ports and the automation pkg_add
performs on
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:02:08 -0400
Juan Miscaro wrote:
Was wondering what advantages OpenBSD has over a progressive Linux
distribution such as Ubuntu (Server edition). One thing I noticed is
that they're having a hell of a time transitioning away from the
traditional sysvinit-based system to
On 7/11/11 10:48 PM, Andres Perera wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:43 PM, patrick keshishianpkesh...@gmail.com wrote:
you failed at making any point.
i'll rebrand it into convenient twitter format:
debian splits packages to the point where a single service is a
associated to a single top
Please don't. This whole thread has gotten really stupid.
Unless you have something funny to add, let's kill it now.
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:11 -0700, Mehma Sarja mehmasa...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 7/11/11 10:48 PM, Andres Perera wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:43 PM, patrick
Help, i shot it three times and I'm on my fourth monitor, 3 bullets
left. What next?
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Eric Furman ericfur...@fastmail.net wrote:
Please don't. This whole thread has gotten really stupid.
Unless you have something funny to add, let's kill it now.
On Tue, 12 Jul
shoot it again son.
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 03:59:31PM -0700, Zeb Packard wrote:
Help, i shot it three times and I'm on my fourth monitor, 3 bullets
left. What next?
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Eric Furman ericfur...@fastmail.net wrote:
Please don't. This whole thread has gotten
I think it worked.
Sent from my iclone.
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote:
shoot it again son.
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 03:59:31PM -0700, Zeb Packard wrote:
Help, i shot it three times and I'm on my fourth monitor, 3 bullets
left. What next?
On Tue,
brraaiiinsss. B-)
On Jul 12, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Zeb Packard wrote:
I think it worked.
Sent from my iclone.
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us
wrote:
shoot it again son.
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 03:59:31PM -0700, Zeb Packard wrote:
Help, i shot it
On 7 July 2011 15:06, jirib ji...@devio.us wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:02:08 -0400
Juan Miscaro jmisc...@gmail.com wrote:
Was wondering what advantages OpenBSD has over a progressive Linux
distribution such as Ubuntu (Server edition).
Are you kidding? Ubuntu? Where installed daemons are
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Juan Miscaro jmisc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 July 2011 15:06, jirib ji...@devio.us wrote:
Are you kidding? Ubuntu? Where installed daemons are running by default,
where there is no command to disable shitty upstart daemons?
Which daemons are those again?
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:46 PM, J Sisson sisso...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Juan Miscaro jmisc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 July 2011 15:06, jirib ji...@devio.us wrote:
Are you kidding? Ubuntu? Where installed daemons are running by default,
where there is no command to
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com wrote:
why would you install a daemon and not run it? how is it any different
than X listening on localhost by default in obsd? if you install a
daemon in debian/ubuntu and it listens on 0.0.0.0 by default, the
package isn't
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:48 PM, J Sisson sisso...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com wrote:
why would you install a daemon and not run it? how is it any different
than X listening on localhost by default in obsd? if you install a
daemon in
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:46 PM, J Sisson sisso...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Juan Miscaro jmisc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 July 2011 15:06, jirib ji...@devio.us wrote:
Are you kidding? Ubuntu? Where
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:40 PM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com
why would you install a daemon and not run it? how is it any different
than X listening on localhost by default in obsd?
Just because you install
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:40 PM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com
why would you install a daemon and not run it? how is it any different
than
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:43 PM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote:
you failed at making any point.
i'll rebrand it into convenient twitter format:
debian splits packages to the point where a single service is a
associated to a single top level package, meaning that there's never a
STeve Andre' [and...@msu.edu] wrote:
On 07/07/11 15:12, Amit Kulkarni wrote:
The developers don't adopt new things just because they're new.
If something isn't reasonable, useful and secure it isn't used. This
is one reason why each new release of OpenBSD doesn't have the
currently released
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Alexander Schrijver
alexander.schrij...@gmail.com wrote:
For starters, there is 100% consensus among developers that we'll never
use newfangled overengineered stuff like System V init.
You mean Upstart!
or wait
You mean systemd!
Or the oddness that is
On Jul 9, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Alexander Schrijver
alexander.schrij...@gmail.com wrote:
For starters, there is 100% consensus among developers that we'll never
use newfangled overengineered stuff like System V init.
You mean Upstart!
It doesn't.
Just install whatever you think it will serve you and see for
yourself. Even if you use state of the art operating system, you
will be annoyed if it doesn't serve you the way you like it. Go and
install, [dist]linux, openbsd, freebsd, etc., follow the path of
installing and configure
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Juan Miscaro jmisc...@gmail.com wrote:
Was wondering what advantages OpenBSD has over a progressive Linux
distribution such as Ubuntu (Server edition). One thing I noticed is
that they're having a hell of a time transitioning away from the
traditional
Hello all,
For I, differences are simple :
OpenBSD : all products included are stable working fully from the install
sets packages.
OpenBSD : just install necessary things.
Ubuntu : All products are allowd to the dist, even unstable
Ubuntu : installs many many things as a workstation use even
Hi Juan,
Juan Miscaro wrote on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 09:02:08AM -0400:
Was wondering what advantages OpenBSD has over a progressive Linux
distribution such as Ubuntu (Server edition). One thing I noticed is
that they're having a hell of a time transitioning away from the
traditional
For starters, there is 100% consensus among developers that we'll never
use newfangled overengineered stuff like System V init.
You mean Upstart!
or wait
You mean systemd!
On 07/07/11 13:25, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
Hi Juan,
Juan Miscaro wrote on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 09:02:08AM -0400:
Was wondering what advantages OpenBSD has over a progressive Linux
distribution such as Ubuntu (Server edition). One thing I noticed is
that they're having a hell of a time
You mean systemd!
You'd need udev in the core system. And everybody knows daemontools/runit is
the past, present, and future of init systems.
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:02:08 -0400
Juan Miscaro jmisc...@gmail.com wrote:
Was wondering what advantages OpenBSD has over a progressive Linux
distribution such as Ubuntu (Server edition).
Are you kidding? Ubuntu? Where installed daemons are running by default,
where there is no command to
The developers don't adopt new things just because they're new.
If something isn't reasonable, useful and secure it isn't used. This
is one reason why each new release of OpenBSD doesn't have the
currently released version of gcc, for example.
Wrong. It is because of GPL v3. Gcc in base
On 07/07/11 15:12, Amit Kulkarni wrote:
The developers don't adopt new things just because they're new.
If something isn't reasonable, useful and secure it isn't used. This
is one reason why each new release of OpenBSD doesn't have the
currently released version of gcc, for example.
Wrong. It
One thing I noticed is
that they're having a hell of a time transitioning away from the
traditional sysvinit-based system to the Upstart event-based init
daemon system.
That's syntactical stuff, who knows. That rabbit hole is as deep
as your project made it. Strategically, OBSD does less, but
Ubuntu is linux, OpenBSD is OpenBSD.
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Juan Miscaro jmisc...@gmail.com wrote:
Was wondering what advantages OpenBSD has over a progressive Linux
distribution such as Ubuntu (Server edition). One thing I noticed is
that they're having a hell of a time
All Linux-based distributions are hacked together like a Frankenstein
monster, coming from disparate sources stitched together to build a new
whole, hoping it won't fall apart anytime soon, while OpenBSD is like a
finely tuned thoroughbred, it may not go first place in speed, but will
deliver with
36 matches
Mail list logo
