Re: now OT Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-22 Thread Diana Eichert
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Josh wrote: I am in the process of building NetBSD dom0 machines after having problems with trying to get linux to work beyond a snails pace on the hardware we have. I just used the howto provided here: http://www.netbsd.org/ports/xen/howto.html Only issue from that was

Re: now OT Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-21 Thread Josh
I am in the process of building NetBSD dom0 machines after having problems with trying to get linux to work beyond a snails pace on the hardware we have. I just used the howto provided here: http://www.netbsd.org/ports/xen/howto.html Only issue from that was grub did not boot the xen.gz kernel,

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-17 Thread Toni Mueller
On Fri, 16.01.2009 at 14:42:05 -0500, Nick Guenther kou...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiousity, what are you doing in Java that needs Windows? Maybe writing Java apps that use specific Windows APIs (at least optionally)? I'm guess that you don't get these in non-Windows builds of Java... Kind

now OT Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-17 Thread Diana Eichert
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Allie Daneman wrote: That's exactly my problem. I have to use this Linux POS to get the job done and I feel bad about it. I've loved OpenBSD for years but it can't do what I need in a PC for my daily driverI'm pissed because I can't contribute to helping the issue

Re: now OT Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-17 Thread Lars Noodén
Diana Eichert wrote: ... but I also have FreeBSD, NetBSD, Linux .. I looked at a lot of systems when planning some projects, and when it came down to NetBSD or OpenBSD, the deciding factor for me was pfsync. Can I ask what tasks or activities you have been using NetBSD for? regards, -Lars

Re: now OT Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-17 Thread Diana Eichert
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009, Lars NoodC)n wrote: I looked at a lot of systems when planning some projects, and when it came down to NetBSD or OpenBSD, the deciding factor for me was pfsync. Can I ask what tasks or activities you have been using NetBSD for? regards, -Lars Xen Dom0 installation

Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread Allie Daneman
Ok, here's my dilemna. I love OpenBSD but due to the fact that I can't run a virtual instance of XP with Java on Qemu I'm screwed. I have to use a Linux box (ducking) with virtualbox to get my work done. Has anyone successfully ported virtualbox to be run on OpenBSD as the host or been able to

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread Eugene Ryazanov
Why you need java on guest system? Native JDK is available for OpenBSD/i386 and OpenBSD/amd64.

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread Allie Daneman
I need to run Java on the guest...hence the reason Qemu doesn't work for me. T need virtualization software that runs java on an XP guest. The version of OpenBSD doesn't matter ;) I've been running it since 2.8 and am running current today as a serverwhich is what I want to change. Look,

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread johan beisser
On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Allie Daneman wrote: I need to run Java on the guest...hence the reason Qemu doesn't work for me. T need virtualization software that runs java on an XP guest. The version of OpenBSD doesn't matter ;) I've been running it since 2.8 and am running current today

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread Allie Daneman
That's exactly my problem. I have to use this Linux POS to get the job done and I feel bad about it. I've loved OpenBSD for years but it can't do what I need in a PC for my daily driverI'm pissed because I can't contribute to helping the issue either so I should probably just shut up and

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread Nick Guenther
Out of curiousity, what are you doing in Java that needs Windows? On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Allie Daneman d...@drainfade.com wrote: That's exactly my problem. I have to use this Linux POS to get the job done and I feel bad about it. I've loved OpenBSD for years but it can't do what I

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread bofh
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Nick Guenther kou...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiousity, what are you doing in Java that needs Windows? I have commercial crap that is used to manage windows crap but is written in java. Guess what do they call when they need to access storage? C:\ . I'm

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread Allie Daneman
Nick Guenther wrote: Out of curiousity, what are you doing in Java that needs Windows? Ahh yes...for work I need to run a java based app that primarily has a Windows client. I have to run it in Windows for work although I tried Wine and it failed miserably. I tried Qemu as well and that's when

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread Marti Martinez
Obviously none of us know WHAT you're really trying to do, so this suggestion may or may not be workable for you, but in your situation my preferred solution is to set up a crap machine with XP as the native OS, and just use rdesktop to log in to it. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Allie

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread Allie Daneman
Marti Martinez wrote: Obviously none of us know WHAT you're really trying to do, so this suggestion may or may not be workable for you, but in your situation my preferred solution is to set up a crap machine with XP as the native OS, and just use rdesktop to log in to it. Not an option...see I

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread Allie Daneman
bofh wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Nick Guenther kou...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiousity, what are you doing in Java that needs Windows? I have commercial crap that is used to manage windows crap but is written in java. Guess what do they call when they need to access storage?

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread johan beisser
On Jan 16, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Allie Daneman wrote: BingoI don't run this stuff voluntarily...I have to for work. If work is all SAE, and you have metric and SAE tools, do you bring your metric tools on the job site? No, because for the most part they won't fit, and you might strip the

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread Allie Daneman
That's a great theory but it's not my situation. I use SAE and metric now but am looking for something that does it better. Why would I dump what works when I'm just asking for more options ? Sure I could go with the easy option and run 2 maybe 3 laptops if I want to run an OpenBSD

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread Nick Bender
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Allie Daneman d...@drainfade.com wrote: Marti Martinez wrote: Obviously none of us know WHAT you're really trying to do, so this suggestion may or may not be workable for you, but in your situation my preferred solution is to set up a crap machine with XP as

Re: Virtualization, OpenBSD as host

2009-01-16 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Allie Daneman d...@drainfade.com wrote: Not an option...see I work in a unique situation. I need a laptop running XP that I can use to VPN into work for email,etc. I also need XP running on the local LAN for access to local boxes that require the windows java