Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH] Creating contour lines from DEM data

2009-07-04 Thread Greg Troxel
the attached java classes together with the patch enables mkgmap to create contour lines directly from digital elevation model (DEM) data. This may be useful for those who don't want to ceate contour lines with other tools and store them in huge(!) files. That seems very cool, and I look

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH] contour lines v2

2009-07-04 Thread Greg Troxel
Christian Gawron writes: >> output osm format data from the DEM (for other use, or later use, or >> for intermediate reprocessing) >> > Actually this was the way my code worked before, but I don't like the > size of the created osm files. I realize the file size is problematic. I meant

[mkgmap-dev] resource usage?

2009-07-06 Thread Greg Troxel
I am trying to make an img/tdb/overview from massachusetts.osm (downloaded from cloudmade). My computer is a mac with 2G of ram. The .osm file is 2.4G. While running with 1024m heap size java ran out of heap. With 2048, it is moving along, but paging a lot wiht a RSIZE of 1750M and getting onl

[mkgmap-dev] splitter and java 1.5?

2009-07-07 Thread Greg Troxel
I tried to run the splitter on massachusetts.osm (from cloudmade) because my mac with a paltry 2G of ram couldn't cope in one piece. I got an exception about bad versoin number in class file, and I wonder if the splitter requires java 1.6? It would be nice if all the osm java code worked with 1.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] splitter and java 1.5?

2009-07-07 Thread Greg Troxel
[splitter not working with java 1.5] I found a 1.6 update from apple and now the splitter seems to be running ok. So it really does seem to need 1.6 pgpwnya2O9b6J.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgma

[mkgmap-dev] splitter/mkgmap/gmapibuilder on massachusetts.osm, errors

2009-07-07 Thread Greg Troxel
I took the Cloudmade massachusetts.osm.bz2 from July 1st, and because I wanted a routable map tried to make my own. I ran the splitter just fine (mac, with java 1.6), and then ran mkgmap like this: java -enableassertions \ -Xmx2048m \ -jar mkgmap.jar \ --tdbfile \ --gmapsupp \ --family

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v4] contours

2009-07-13 Thread Greg Troxel
> - write a little utility to paste GeoTIFF files together > > gdal tools should be able to do this. Yes, the GDAL tools are able to do this, I have to do it this way for elevation lines for mapnik rendering. I wrote code to do this to render USGS DRGs, and while the code is not p

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [patch] change bus_stop to Transit Service category and add name / operator

2009-07-19 Thread Greg Troxel
Marko Mäkelä writes: >> About the TYP file, are there any plans to have one included for use >> with the default style? I don't actually know much about these files >> yet so my question might be a bit naive. > > Same here. Maybe in the dark and rainy winter months when the > conditions are wor

[mkgmap-dev] proposed README organization

2009-07-19 Thread Greg Troxel
I've been trying to use mkgmap and having a bit of a hard time. I'm a little compulsive about having all the lore be in the source tree, and it seems the README is a bit behind the code. I have a bit of time here and there but not enough to really dig into the code. So I'll be trying to send pa

Re: [mkgmap-dev] proposed README organization

2009-07-24 Thread Greg Troxel
I've done some more README work. I am finding a lot of information on wikis, including talk pages, and have tried to link to it rather than duplicating it, at least for now. This patch creates all the files, even if some of them have little content. I did include an example of making gmapi-form

[mkgmap-dev] SEVERE consecutive identical nodes with --remove-short-arcs

2009-07-25 Thread Greg Troxel
I am trying to build a routable map for all of Massachusetts as a first step towards hopefully improving the style rules slightly (some ramps on Rt. 2 are missing from the cloudmade img and I think it's because trunk_link is missing in the style file, but I haven't figured that out yet). My comma

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH] Building resolution

2009-07-29 Thread Greg Troxel
Ondrej Novy writes: > this patch fix showing building too early on Garmin device. building=* > should have same resolution as highway=residential. No objections to that as an incremental improvement, but I am tempted to say that building=yes without name= should not show up. In Mass we have Ma

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH] Building resolution

2009-07-29 Thread Greg Troxel
Ondrej Novy writes: > i find building REALLY usefull when navigation. When you are not in car, > but going by foot it's really usefull information. > > Or perhaps unnamed buildings should be shown only when POIs are shown. Here's an example of what I'm talking about: http://www.openstreetmap.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH] Building resolution

2009-07-29 Thread Greg Troxel
Ondrej Novy writes: > hi, > > 2009/7/29 Greg Troxel > >> Here's an example of what I'm talking about: >> >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.3921&lon=-71.15861&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF > > yes, exactly this is what i want

[mkgmap-dev] success with roadtrip, gmapibuilder

2009-07-31 Thread Greg Troxel
I have been trying for a while to build my own maps with mkgmap, and was getting bad maps into RoadTrip. I figured out what I was doing wrong and thought I'd share it. I had run the splitter and then mkgmap, creating a gmapsupp.img overall map file in addition to all the tiles. I ran gmapibuilde

Re: [mkgmap-dev] complete list of all mkgmap options

2009-08-01 Thread Greg Troxel
I searched for a complete list of all mkgmap command-line options and what they should do, but I couldn't find a good and up-to-date list. The list in the wiki is much too old. I would wish to have a Wiki page with all mkgmap options, their functionality, their usage and their status (s

[mkgmap-dev] options update

2009-08-04 Thread Greg Troxel
Here's a patch that: adds some options to the help file improves wording in the help file adds TODO items in the help file when I think something should be there but don't know the answer a bit of general cleanup in the help file removes option description from README, pointing pe

Re: [mkgmap-dev] options update

2009-08-04 Thread Greg Troxel
Use this patch instead - minor typo/whitespace fixups. Index: README === --- README (revision 1118) +++ README (working copy) @@ -32,69 +32,43 @@ there. Another way would be to use a USB memory card writer. Another convenient way

[mkgmap-dev] splitter build fails on mac

2009-08-04 Thread Greg Troxel
(This is also splitter-dev I think.) I am trying to build the splitter on a mac (10.5.7 with java 1.6.0_13, 64-bit server VM), and failing. I have successfully built mkgmap and run it, so my java setup is mostly ok. Buildfile: build.xml prepare: compile: [javac] Compiling 17 source fi

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Commit: r1120: adds some options to the help file

2009-08-05 Thread Greg Troxel
Steve Ratcliffe writes: > On 05/08/09 10:48, Mark Burton wrote: >> >> +--enable-assertions >> +Turn on assertions in the code. This will make the program >> +more likely to abort and less likely to do the wrong thing. >> +Use of this option is recommended. >> + >> >> Surely this is

[mkgmap-dev] secondary_links, tertiary_links

2009-08-05 Thread Greg Troxel
While driving a while ago, I noticed highway ramps missing from my Vista HCx. Now, they are present but dashed lines. The problem is a combination of two things: a road that should be a motorway tagged as secondary (state highway), and mkgmap's default style not having rules for secondary_link a

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Memory limits for mkgmap and splitter

2009-08-05 Thread Greg Troxel
Johann Gail writes: > Just an thought from reading the thread: > Multiple parsing runs with an bz2 zipped file could do worse to the > performance. It would mean multiple decompressing of the input files. > And in my experience decompressing bz2 costs a lot of resources. > > (In my case I'm di

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v1] - styling for the power user

2009-08-05 Thread Greg Troxel
Are you a heavy duty styler? If so, read on: I notice that quite a lot of postings on the list are from people who are having problems with complex style files. This little patch won't (directly) solve those problems but it does provide a useful capability that could be part of a soluti

[mkgmap-dev] test map and RoadTrip?

2009-08-06 Thread Greg Troxel
I am trying to make a testmap and look at it in RoadTrip. The creation process goes smoothly, and the gmapibuilder output looks reasonable. I can use MapManager to add the map, but then RoadTrip crashes when I try to select it. A similar process to build real maps (from cloudmade extracts, with

Re: [mkgmap-dev] splitter build fails on mac

2009-08-06 Thread Greg Troxel
Clinton Gladstone writes: >> I am trying to build the splitter on a mac (10.5.7 with java 1.6.0_13, >> 64-bit server VM), and failing.  I have successfully built mkgmap and >> run it, so my java setup is mostly ok. > > I regularly build splitter in a similar environment to yours. I have > to be

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH] reduce highway=service resolution

2009-08-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Marko Mäkelä writes: > When the resolution of highway=residential was reduced, highway=service > should have been reduced as well. It looks odd to see highway=service > but not the highway=residential that they are connected to. > > highway=residential | highway=living_street [0x06 road_class=

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Suggestions: improvements to mkgmap --style-file= and --list-styles options

2009-08-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Charlie Ferrero writes: > 1. Currently, if you invoke mkgmap with the --style-file= tag and point > to a non-existent style file (or incorrect path), mkgmap continues > regardless (and applies the inbuilt default style, afaict). Can I > suggest a patch to mkgmap that at least makes it clear

Re: [mkgmap-dev] bugreport for new splitter

2009-08-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Chris Miller writes: >> For really old devices that have limited memory you may only be able >> to load a few tiles at a time and then it would be more flexible to >> have smaller tiles. But this is really from before OSM was started, >> I've never had anyone complain that tiles were too big, i

Re: [mkgmap-dev] bugreport for new splitter

2009-08-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Dermot McNally writes: > 2009/8/10 Greg Troxel : > >> For receivers with a 2GB uSD, I think one wants tiles pretty big.  I >> have 2009 vintage Garmin proprietary maps, and all of New England is in >> 2 tiles, and the .img I think are about 25 MB each.  I also have a

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH] reduce highway=service resolution

2009-08-11 Thread Greg Troxel
Elrond writes: > I don't know, if we really want to go ahead and create more > styles directly shipped with mkgmap. > Just some random thoughts: A few more: Maps for rural and urban areas should probably have different resolutions. Eventually this should be dynamic. I basically agree with yo

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v1] - Add support for marine (aka extended) types

2009-08-12 Thread Greg Troxel
Clinton Gladstone writes: > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Mark Burton wrote: >> >> This patch is a first stab at providing support for the 3-byte extended >> types that are used on marine maps. > > I tested this, and found that it works fine, both on my eTrex and in > Roadtrip for Mac OS X. >

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Option --remove-short-arcs

2009-08-12 Thread Greg Troxel
Mark Burton writes: > I am not suggesting that we drop the ability to specify the min arc > length but I do think it's reasonable for it to default to zero rather > than some length like 3 or 5 (at least until we really understand > what's going on). > > I propose: > > If --route is specified bu

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Rounding bug in splitter?

2009-08-12 Thread Greg Troxel
Felix Hartmann writes: > D:\Garmin\mkgmap>start /low /b /wait java -enableassertions -jar > -Xmx1200M splitter.jar --mapid=6320 --maxnodes=100 > --resoultion=15 switzerland.osm > > /D:\Garmin\mkgmap>start /low /b /wait java -enableassertions -jar > -Xmx1200M splitter.jar --mapid=6320

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v4] - min arc length fixes

2009-08-13 Thread Greg Troxel
It would be good if people who have been obliged to use a minimum arc length of > 0 would provide examples of where the routing is broken. i.e. without using this patch, find an example which doesn't route when --remove-short-arcs is specified but will route when --remove-short-arcs=5 is

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v4] - min arc length fixes

2009-08-14 Thread Greg Troxel
Clinton Gladstone writes: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > >> I am finding routing totally broken in Massachusetts; routes (etrex >> vista hcx) are computed apparently using the basemap.  I have not tested >> enough to figure out why. > &g

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v4] - min arc length fixes

2009-08-16 Thread Greg Troxel
Perhaps, the mappers should put some effort into cleaning up/validating the data? Absolutely we should. I had thought things were better than they seem to be. But computing routes on a dataset with problems should still 'work', where work means you get a route that's obviously nonoptimal.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v4] - min arc length fixes

2009-08-16 Thread Greg Troxel
Clinton Gladstone writes: > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > >> I most recently built with all 6 NE states (conn, ri, mass, vermont, new >> hampshire, maine) all together, invoking the script 'do-mkgmap' which >> follows as something like

Re: [mkgmap-dev] maps mixed

2009-08-17 Thread Greg Troxel
frmas writes: > Now according to the latest firmware, we no longer have to create a > gmapsupp.img file to get multiple maps. I tried this on an Etrex Vista HCx and it seems that it does not read multiple map files. > Maybe this has something to do with the way I use the mapname, > description

Re: [mkgmap-dev] mapname splitter V mkgmap

2009-08-17 Thread Greg Troxel
frmas writes: > So I suppose that once the mapname in the template.args file is given, I > can't change it with a parameter on the mkgmap command line, as long as > I use the "-c template.args" parameter ?? the mapname in the -c takes precedence if it is given later than --mapname. Why don't y

Re: [mkgmap-dev] mapname splitter V mkgmap

2009-08-17 Thread Greg Troxel
frmas writes: > Greg Troxel a écrit : >>> So I suppose that once the mapname in the template.args file is given, I >>> can't change it with a parameter on the mkgmap command line, as long as >>> I use the "-c template.args" parameter ?? >>

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Commit: r1140: Added support for extended types.

2009-08-19 Thread Greg Troxel
Felix Hartmann writes: > I think we should open a wiki page where we should add what > line/poi/polygon types are possible. There is already resources/garmin_feature_list.csv. It would be nice to add to that, so it's in the sources, rather than having a duplicate list that has to stay in sync.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v4] - min arc length fixes

2009-08-20 Thread Greg Troxel
Mark Burton writes: > I slurped most of I95 into josm and it's a bit of a mess. For example, > The Northbound carriageway is disconnected at node 73082202 Perhaps a town boundary - see below. > and just > below that is a section of link road that's pointing in the wrong > direction. MassGIS d

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Regression causing Heap space exhaustion?

2009-08-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Morten Kjeldgaard writes: > The default version of mkgmap distributed with Ubuntu 9.04 (jaunty) is > svn630. I tried upgrading to version svn1067 which has recently > appeared in Debian unstable, but now I get a Java heap space > exception on the _same_ .osm file that worked before. > > The map

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Regression causing Heap space exhaustion?

2009-08-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Morten Kjeldgaard writes: > On 21/08/2009, at 23.26, Steve Ratcliffe wrote: > >> When support for relations was added the memory required increased. I >> think that was added along with routing, I believe, which was in >> version >> 684 or thereabouts, so that will explain what you see. >> >>

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Regression causing Heap space exhaustion?

2009-08-22 Thread Greg Troxel
Morten Kjeldgaard writes: > On 22/08/2009, at 01.53, Greg Troxel wrote: > >> With splitter/mkgmap, the general strategy I use is: >> >> set heap size to a bit less than RAM, to avoid paging >> >> use --max-nodes to splitter to make small enough areas. >&

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Regression causing Heap space exhaustion?

2009-08-22 Thread Greg Troxel
The reason for the high memory usage is that most nodes in the Danish extract look like this: This gets very messy, but I suppose tags could be trimmed on reading if there is some way to know/declare that they won't be used. The problem is then the relation matching

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Sea Polygons and java 1.6

2009-08-22 Thread Greg Troxel
I have a newish macbook pro, bought around January of 2008. It had 10.5, and java 1.5. I was able to download java 1.6 from apple, but apparently that only works for intel 64-bit macs (which means "amd64", think). But, setting the preference only changes the JRE, and apparently our ant build lo

Re: [mkgmap-dev] secondary_links, tertiary_links

2009-08-22 Thread Greg Troxel
Greg Troxel writes: > While driving a while ago, I noticed highway ramps missing from my Vista > HCx. Now, they are present but dashed lines. The problem is a > combination of two things: a road that should be a motorway tagged as > secondary (state highway), and mkgmap's

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Regression causing Heap space exhaustion?

2009-08-23 Thread Greg Troxel
Morten Kjeldgaard writes: > Success! I had to set maxnodes to 500K in the splitter and use 4G ram > in the VM to make it work. > > However the resulting gmapsupp.img makes my Legend Cx crash when > it's turned off: it continously beeps and the only way to stop it is > to remove the batteries

Re: [mkgmap-dev] zero length arc

2009-08-23 Thread Greg Troxel
Mark Burton writes: > Hi, > >> GRAVE (RoadNetwork): Road null (OSM id 36913306) contains zero length arc >> GRAVE (RoadNetwork): >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.33355&lon=9.34585&zoom=17 > > ... > >> Is it just a message to tell me that mkgmap has removed the zero length >> arc or a prob

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH] Fixed secondary_link/tertiary_link Garmin types

2009-08-24 Thread Greg Troxel
cool, but it would be good to fix up garmin_types.csv to explain this - I was not able to figure it out. When should we use 0x09 then? pgpvENgMvAE3O.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://w

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Selectable maps on gps

2009-08-25 Thread Greg Troxel
Clifford Nolan writes: > I can't seem to find the right options so that I can output more than > one map within a gmapsupp.img file and have those individual maps be > selectable with the ticks on the gps itself. > > For example, if I have file_A.osm and file_B.osm how can make these two > s

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Possible maxspeed patch

2009-08-27 Thread Greg Troxel
MarkS writes: > This adds a new option "maxspeed". This can be set to: > > "ignore" - The maxspeed tag is ignored and road class from the style > file is used. > "heed" - The maxspeed tag is used. If it doesn't exist then road class > from the style file is used > "lower" - The lower of the maxs

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Commit: r1158: Better highway=primary type

2009-08-30 Thread Greg Troxel
Dermot McNally writes: > 2009/8/30 svn commit : > >> I can't see a difference in mapsource, so 0x02 and 0x03 >> seem to be quite close. > > Ah, but you can see the difference with a suitable .typ file :) As much as I hate checking in binary files, I wonder if it would be useful for there to be

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Commit: r1158: Better highway=primary type

2009-08-30 Thread Greg Troxel
Ondrej Novy writes: > Hi, > > 2009/8/30 Greg Troxel > >> the sources along with a description of what it is. When there's >> adequate free software for .typ files in the glorious future, this could >> be swapped out for the source description. I have bee

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Missing prompt when joining major road from minor road at an angle

2009-09-04 Thread Greg Troxel
I've got a case locally where a tertiary road meets a primary road at a shallow approach-angle of about 30 degrees. The Garmin does not announce the junction, not warn of its approach when you're on the tertiary. Coming from the other direction on the primary though, you get an "in 50

[mkgmap-dev] routing experiences, levels problem?

2009-10-04 Thread Greg Troxel
I have fairly recently used OSM maps I made with mkgmap in California and Arizona. The good news is that they basically work, including routing. This is in theory not news, but things seems tricky enough that I thought I'd mention it. In Grand Canyon Village (south rim), I found that at 20m-300

[mkgmap-dev] roadtrip no longer happy

2009-10-31 Thread Greg Troxel
I updated mkgmap to r1337, and found that my overview img/tdb changed names. I adjusted gmapibuilder invocation to reference those, and that succeeded. But on loading into roadtrip I get a "The map you selected contains some errors and cannot be displayed. The default map is being shown instead.

[mkgmap-dev] leisure=recreation_ground

2009-11-10 Thread Greg Troxel
massgis import has polygons with leisure=recreation_ground, and this is logically like landuse=recreation_ground. Apparently mapnik already has support for this, and the following makes such parks show up nicely: Index: resources/styles/default/polygons ==

[mkgmap-dev] doc patch

2009-11-10 Thread Greg Troxel
These aren't wicked important, but I found them in my tree and I think they're more helpful than not: Index: doc/README.invoking === --- doc/README.invoking (revision 1366) +++ doc/README.invoking (working copy) @@ -1,7 +1,35 @@ $I

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Style-file repository?

2009-11-26 Thread Greg Troxel
Marko Mäkelä writes: > I think that the default style should still be maintained. There is some > value in having sensible defaults. I do see value in other styles and > hacks, such as distinguishing different types of paths by drawing multiple > lines per way or repurposing taxi/delivery/emer

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [PATCH v1] grok unpavedness

2009-12-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Mark Burton writes: > The attached patch allows you to add either unpaved=yes/true/1 or > paved=no/false/0 to a way and then it will be ignored for routing > purposes when the GPS has been told to avoid unpaved roads. > > Not sure if those are the best tags to use - any thoughts? In the massgis

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Commit: r1429: Cosmetic changes to the default style: Add comments and do not sort

2009-12-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Version 1429 was commited by marko on 2009-12-09 22:11:45 + (Wed, 09 Dec 2009) Cosmetic changes to the default style: Add comments and do not sort the highway=* alphabetically but by descending order of class, i.e., motorway, trunk, primary, secondary, tertiary, etc. I'm glad to se

[mkgmap-dev] splitter broken with multiple files

2009-12-24 Thread Greg Troxel
I updated this morning and ran the splitter with mass/conn/ri extracts (3 files). I got a map that had only connecticut. SO I wonder if the bounds code in r102 is using the last bound, rather than unioning them. here's my log. search down for connecticut bounds, and the bounds chosen for write

Re: [mkgmap-dev] splitter broken with multiple files

2009-12-24 Thread Greg Troxel
Greg Troxel writes: > I updated this morning and ran the splitter with mass/conn/ri extracts > (3 files). I got a map that had only connecticut. SO I wonder if the > bounds code in r102 is using the last bound, rather than unioning them. I updated to -r101, and that produced a m

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Text format for TYP files

2010-01-16 Thread Greg Troxel
We could do that, but I just got another idea: I will create a simple TYP file with http://ati.land.cz/gps/typdecomp/ and try to decompile it by hand into source file(s) that would be compiled with GNU Assembler to the TYP file. That should be enough for my immediate needs, to define so

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Text format for TYP files

2010-01-16 Thread Greg Troxel
That compiler is now under a BSD license, so I wonder about just making it into a regular program instead of a cgi. pgp5fbvfygeI2.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Text format for TYP files

2010-01-17 Thread Greg Troxel
Have you tried using the source code? I tried, but failed. It does not even claim to be the entire program. The web interface is deliberately No, I have not tried. That doesn't sound encouraging. pgp0tnJPvGn0a.pgp Description: PGP signature __

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Making splitter and MultiPolygon code play together

2010-02-03 Thread Greg Troxel
Does anyone have any objections to this? If not I'll take a look sometime in the next few days. I'll also look at fixing the lack of support in the splitter for relations containing other relations. In all my struggles to deal with osm and mapmaking, disk space has been the least of my tr

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Gmapibuilder: Searching for new site to host source code

2010-02-10 Thread Greg Troxel
[need new home for gmapibuilder] what about on mkgmap.org? While gmapibuilder is useful without mkgmap, it would seem that it's basically used by the Free software garmin community. It's not mine to offer of course Assuming the owners of mkgmap.org are amenable, the only downside is the

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Gmapibuilder: Searching for new site to host source code

2010-02-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Steve Ratcliffe writes: > I'm not sure what what Greg's 'political point' is but I don't see how > it would affect my thinking without further explanation. Sorry, I meant: gmapibuilder doesn't really have any particular affinity for mkgmap as the one true map creator. It should be usable

[mkgmap-dev] property boundaries

2010-03-06 Thread Greg Troxel
I have a shapefile of property boundaries in my town (from MassGIS). It has a bunch of polygons, with metadata about size and lot number (from zoning maps, like R27-7). Eventually I might import this, but I'm going very slow on that and right now I'm trying to work out sensible conversions and g

Re: [mkgmap-dev] How to change a style file

2010-03-07 Thread Greg Troxel
I've written a small app in c that will generate an arbitrarily large grid of POIs or polygons, each with a unique tag=key combination, and the associated mkgmap style file to go with it. This lets you see how garmin type codes associate to icons and categories on any given GPS unit.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Highway name or ref

2010-03-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Lambertus writes: > There's a question on the OSM forum about the naming of highways in the > default stylesheet which comes down to this: if a ref is available then > that seems always used even if a name is also available, can this be > changed to show the name as well? > > http://forum.ope

Re: [mkgmap-dev] avg speed on roads

2010-04-23 Thread Greg Troxel
Measuring the avg. speed for sections of 10-20km on primarys is something low like 35km/h on some parts and something like 55km/h on fast parts. The max speed on these sections is mostly 80km/h but in the end nobody gets that fast. In Mass the speed limits are on most ways from the MassGI

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Change mkgmap default options to make mkgmap more userfriendly

2010-04-30 Thread Greg Troxel
For most people understanding which mkgmap options they should choose, is not easy - as one first needs to have quite thorough understanding. I think in general useful options should be the default - and not stick for ages to old behavior. I'm afraid I make to many mistakes if I change i

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Change mkgmap default options to make mkgmap more userfriendly

2010-04-30 Thread Greg Troxel
Felix Hartmann writes: > On 30.04.2010 14:16, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >>--ignore-maxspeeds (the current handling sucks, If we would change >> >> I don't understand this; it seems simple to map maxspeed on ways to >> garmin road speed but obviously I don

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Change mkgmap default options to make mkgmap more userfriendly

2010-04-30 Thread Greg Troxel
so we really need a tag for typical_speed, because you're saying that speed limits and typical speeds are not all that well correlated. This is not really about mkgmap. pgpSW889d55F7.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-de

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Change mkgmap default options to make mkgmap more userfriendly

2010-04-30 Thread Greg Troxel
Felix Hartmann writes: > On 30.04.2010 15:22, Greg Troxel wrote: >> so we really need a tag for typical_speed, because you're saying that >> speed limits and typical speeds are not all that well correlated. This >> is not really about mkgmap. >> > Well

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Garmin Car SatNav recommendations

2010-06-03 Thread Greg Troxel
I am using an Etrex Vista HCx with mkgmap with good results. A friend has an oregon 450 which seems ok in terms of maps/routing (waas issues, apparently no way to display seconds for camera sync, awkward tracklog saving). I am unclear on how the nuvi line works for OSM, but it's a good question.

Re: [mkgmap-dev] New cmdline switch for splitter.jar

2010-07-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Chris Miller writes: >> I in fact called it --output-dir initially. However when I first typed >> it at the commandline, I caught myself writing --destdir. I realized >> that --destdir is just the name of the option for a lot of tools when >> specifying a target directory I'm used to. >

[mkgmap-dev] somewhat OT: garmin oregon disklabel?

2010-08-30 Thread Greg Troxel
I just got a garmin oregon 450 (for hacking OSM/mkgmap). It attaches as two disks (internal flash and uSD slot): umass0 at uhub4 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 umass0: vendor 0x091e product 0x2380, rev 2.00/5.09, addr 2 umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only scsibus0 at umass0: 2 targets, 2 luns

[mkgmap-dev] svn works ok?

2010-08-30 Thread Greg Troxel
trying to build a map with the latest svn and the cloudmade extract for massachusettts fails with an exception. I'll try to send details tomorrow, but I'm wondering if anyone else is having trouble. pgpsfusIMSWy4.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ mk

Re: [mkgmap-dev] somewhat OT: garmin oregon disklabel?

2010-08-31 Thread Greg Troxel
"Jeroen Muris" writes: > My Oregon 550T shows two FAT32 formatted disks in Windows 7 and XP, and > from memory (lost the Mac and the Slackware laptop) I could read/write > these in both OS X and linux. thanks. > Maybe your OS lacks a driver for FAT32? I can read a 16G CF from a dslr just fine,

Re: [mkgmap-dev] svn works ok?

2010-08-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Jeffrey Ollie writes: > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >> trying to build a map with the latest svn and the cloudmade extract for >> massachusettts fails with an exception.  I'll try to send details >> tomorrow, but I'm wondering if a

Re: [mkgmap-dev] svn works ok?

2010-09-03 Thread Greg Troxel
Clinton Gladstone writes: > On Aug 31, 2010, at 20:37, Greg Troxel wrote: > >> no, sun java on intel mac. >> I have tried openjdk but had trouble; it would be nice if i works someday > > I'm also on an Intel mac, and have not had troubles with the latest SVN > r

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [mkgmap-svn] Commit: r1707: Fix NPE when no explicit bounding box was given.

2010-09-26 Thread Greg Troxel
I'm seeing comits to what I think is the same mkgmap svn with different version numbers. So am I just missing something obvious, or is there something unusual going on, or ?? Version 1707 was commited by steve on 2010-09-26 21:23:54 +0100 (Sun, 26 Sep 2010) Version 230 was commited by stev

Re: [mkgmap-dev] [mkgmap-svn] Commit: r1707: Fix NPE when no explicit bounding box was given.

2010-09-27 Thread Greg Troxel
Steve Ratcliffe writes: > If you are subscribed to the mkgmap-svn list (which you are :) you see > the commits from the both the splitter and the display repositories. > As you point out it is not obvious where the commit is happening. I'll > see if I can include something in the message. > > T

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Strange request with later versions of mkgmap

2010-10-17 Thread Greg Troxel
Marko Mäkelä writes: > On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 02:15:55PM +0100, char...@cferrero.net wrote: >>Are you sure that the GPS won't try to route even when there is no >>routing info in the map? I've got a vague memory (back when I didn't >>know how to create a routable map) that my GPS still offer

[mkgmap-dev] build instructions and protobuf

2010-10-18 Thread Greg Troxel
I'm glad to see pbf support in mkgmap, but doing an svn checkout and 'ant dist' fails, or at least prints an error. The README does not explain where to find the apparently missing jar files, or how to check them out and build them. Ideally, it would look in the system standard paths, so that on

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Feature request: accept osm data from stdin

2010-11-02 Thread Greg Troxel
Marko Mäkelä writes: > On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 10:22:33AM +0100, Lambertus wrote: >>Would it be possible that Mkgmap supports reading the OSM data from >>stdin? Splitter is capable of doing so and it would eliminate the need >>for a temporary file if Mkgmap could do so too. > > If you are usin

Re: [mkgmap-dev] 2 pois for a single polygon/multipolygon

2010-11-17 Thread Greg Troxel
maning sambale writes: > This way is tagged as a amenity=townhall and a multipolygon relation: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/24159829 > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/452620 > > In my style: > polygons: > building=* | man_made=* | amenity=* | tourism=* [0x13 resolution

Re: [mkgmap-dev] 2 pois for a single polygon/multipolygon

2010-11-17 Thread Greg Troxel
Marko Mäkelä writes: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:37:17PM +0800, maning sambale wrote: >>Can anyone confirm this? (I don't read code sorry) > > If moving all tags from the role=outer way to the multipolygon relation > fixes the problem, then Greg Troxel is right. If not,

Re: [mkgmap-dev] New locator branch

2011-03-17 Thread Greg Troxel
I observed that a lot of admin_level boundaries (2,3,4,5 and sometimes 6,7,8,9,10,11) are not useable because they are not completely contained in the tile data. The polygons are closed automatically but this is only a good guess in which direction they have to be closed. The probabilit

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Sensible resolutions - (or patch 5)

2011-03-25 Thread Greg Troxel
Marko Mäkelä writes: > Actually, we do have a mean: if there are multiple parallel tracks (each > drawn as a separate way with railway=*), it is a major railway. It > should be doable to merge adjacent ways at lower resolutions and sum the > "weights" of the ways, to decide what to draw. A st

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Omitting ref from named minor roads

2011-04-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Marko Mäkelä writes: > A fellow mapper complained that some highways carry a 5-digit ref on the > mkgmap-produced map, even though the ref is nowhere to be seen on street > signs. OK, mkgmap cannot possibly know that, but I was wondering if we > could split this rule in the default style: > >

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Omitting ref from named minor roads

2011-04-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Marko Mäkelä writes: > It may be useful for road nerds to have the official 5-digit or > 6-digit refs for ramps or cycleways in the database, but I do not > think that they can be useful for a Garmin map user. A road nerd user > can always tweak the mkgmap style. :-) I agree that's true when th

Re: [mkgmap-dev] Level and Resolution

2011-07-16 Thread Greg Troxel
Roger Calvert writes: > I have mapped 'barrier=gate' to an unused Garmin code using the instruction > > barrier=gate {add name = 'gate'} [0x1600 level 2] > > in the 'points' style file, with a corresponding entry defining a > graphic in the TYP file. Two separate points to understand: 1) The

Re: [mkgmap-dev] A few default stylesheet tweaks

2011-07-18 Thread Greg Troxel
Lambertus writes: > Hello list, Marko, > > Would it be possible that the default stylesheet does not show: > > - Admin levels 8, 9, 10 (admin_level=) In my area, cities/towns are admin_level=8, and these should definitely show up. I'm not sure what 9 and 10 are; in my state we have wards and

Re: [mkgmap-dev] A few default stylesheet tweaks

2011-07-18 Thread Greg Troxel
available under an OSM compatible license (the terms resemble CC-BY-SA), but I guess I could convert it to .img tiles and let the end users download and combine the topo tiles with the OSM .img tiles to a gmapsupp.img. Indeed - I have topo data in the US that I use in a separate .img (

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