This completely denies, though, anything invisible or transcendent.
Conscious experience as all? But then there's nothing to be on the
cutting edge.
We have to have some kind of unknown, alogos, darkness - at the least,
to illumine. There has to be an undifferentiated aesthetic continuum
So near yet so far ...
https://www.academia.edu/16203146/Can_Pragmatists_Believe_in_Phenomenal_Qualia_Peirce_Did..
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I see you.
Things seem quiet in RMP-land.
Anyone know how he is doing?
I tried to contact Ian but no answer ...
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is the pirsig discussion site still in operation?
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A possible further-back relation could be the Aristotelian, believe it
or not, tradition through Aquinas, in which the person's wholeness is
primary, and "body" and "mind" are analytic products.
In Zen:
Classical side.
MRB
On 7/25/2015 9:46 PM, John Carl wrote:
ooh Michael... I think not.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Michael R. Brown m...@fuguewriter.com
wrote:
Camille Paglia, Nietzsche's latter-day heir, would be interesting to map
onto RMP and vice versa. I think they may converge
Camille Paglia, Nietzsche's latter-day heir, would be interesting to map
onto RMP and vice versa. I think they may converge.
MRB
On 7/24/2015 9:06 AM, david wrote:
I've been thinking about the work Arlo did a few years back.
Good stuff. Here are most the central quotes he'd used...
We
The present comes before a what.
It's the ground of what and nourishes all whats without lording it
over them.
I think a guy named Pirsig wrote similar things to this.
MRB
On 3/8/2015 3:16 AM, Dan Glover wrote:
Arlo,
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:47 PM, ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR ajb...@psu.edu
Romantic, then Classic:
“The thing is, I've been working on pianos so much, I look at a piano
and can tell if something is wrong, out of place. You know, because you
see the piano every day, you know that something's out of place, you can
tell right away.”
What Boot hears in a piano comes
Um, no.
There was never a guy more self-deluding than this guy.
MRB
On 6/4/2014 11:33 AM, John Carl wrote:
Elliot Rodger https://www.youtube.com/user/ElliotRodger
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That was not his only attitude, to be sure.
I'm not quite sure how this goes with the MOQ?
MRB
On 6/4/2014 2:56 PM, John Carl wrote:
Actually Michael, I think he was right. With his attitude, he was never
gonna get laid.
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Michael R. Brown m
Watts is a wonder. One of the loveliest stylists - something extremely
*comforting* about him. He ministers.
His The Way of Zen is beyond fantastic. And I have a copy of his
Cloud Hidden, Whereabouts Unknown on my bedside table.
I worked Watts' presence around the inception and the aftermath
, Ian Glendinning wrote:
Comforting to hear you've already made the connection.
If your memoir is commercially available post a link. Otherwise forward
anything you want Bob to see, with any letter of introduction.
Regards
Ian
On 29 May 2014 16:58, Michael R. Brown m...@fuguewriter.com wrote
Material is not material.
That's my answer.
MRB
On 4/11/2014 1:30 PM, david wrote:
The following was excerpted from Spiritual Snake Oil: Fads Fallacies in Pop
Culture by Chris Edwards.
See any mistakes here? What would you say in response?
Robert Pirsig, author of Zen and the Art of
Could this possibly be mere accident?
William James Sidis
Birth: Apr. 1, 1898
New York, USA
Death: Jul. 17, 1944
Boston
Suffolk County
Massachusetts, USA
The son of Boris Sidis he was a famous prodigy in his day. He was
eccentric in his interest in collecting street-car transfers.
Bumper sticker sometimes seen:
What if the hokey pokey
Really is what it's all about?
MRB
On 12/31/2013 5:09 PM, Ron Kulp wrote:
Hokey pokey code of art:
Left foot in
Left foot out
Left foot in
Shake it all about
Or
The dirty Sanchez code of art:
In
Out
Swish left
Swish right
?
So few
My only problem with the American Transcendentalists is leaving behind
this world.
Mr. D. H. Lawrence puts it into the mouth of his Jesus, who survives the
Cross and rethinks his mission, and repents a bit, and in the end
thinks: From what, and to what, could this infinite whirl be saved?
on this forum would all like to do
well, and better.
Marsha
On Nov 30, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Michael R. Brown m...@fuguewriter.com wrote:
My only problem with the American Transcendentalists is leaving behind this
world.
Mr. D. H. Lawrence puts it into the mouth of his Jesus, who survives
Marsha -
Nah. That would be too defining.
It is the beauty of one's nature
That nets the seekers.
Ropes and cages never trap
The wary bird.
- http://marymaclane.com/hafiz/
MRB
On 11/30/2013 8:54 PM, MarshaV wrote:
Michael,
Perhaps you will present some statements by Emerson that
From dear Henry (and my memory):
On questions of religion, better to ask the chick-a-dee-dees than the
D.D.'s [Doctors of Divinity]
Read not the Times, but the Eternities.
You may be sure that a man who often hears news from letters at the Post
Office has not lately heard much from himself.
:26 PM, Michael R. Brown m...@fuguewriter.com wrote:
It was raining, a little, at the beginning of ZAMM.
Most rain comes from the ocean. : )
MRB
On 11/26/2013 1:53 AM, MarshaV wrote:
Michael,
It is interesting and wonderful how each person reflects RMP's words and ideas.
Marsha
On Nov 25
It was raining, a little, at the beginning of ZAMM.
Most rain comes from the ocean. : )
MRB
On 11/26/2013 1:53 AM, MarshaV wrote:
Michael,
It is interesting and wonderful how each person reflects RMP's words and ideas.
Marsha
On Nov 25, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Michael R. Brown m
terms up to now as metaphysical, he had all along refused to
define it. That made it mystic too. Its indefinability freed it from the rules of
metaphysics.
On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Michael R. Brown m...@fuguewriter.com wrote:
The Buddha who can be missed isn't the Buddha.
The misser who
And so we make our way from the precision motorcycle on the hard
man-made road at the beginning of ZAMM to the strange, shocked, empty,
open clarity of a boat-in-water at the end of Lila.
Is this not like another famous closing? “So we beat on, boats against
the current, borne back
The Buddha who can be missed isn't the Buddha.
The misser who misses the Buddha, though, probably is the misser.
There's the rub!
MRB
On 11/24/2013 9:15 AM, MarshaV wrote:
Hi Ron,
To understand what he [Phædrus] was trying to do it's necessary to see that
part of the landscape,
Spontaneous is DQ rising up and brushing past SQ. : )
MRB
On 11/20/2013 4:41 AM, MarshaV wrote:
A young monk was studying Buddhism. He was walking up the hill to the temple enjoying
the afternoon sun and contemplating inner peace and being one with the world around him. On
his journey he
3:40 PM, MarshaV wrote:
Michael,
That seems a good way to say it.
Marsha
On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Michael R. Brown m...@fuguewriter.com wrote:
Spontaneous is DQ rising up and brushing past SQ. : )
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There was a big flurry about these machines in 2009 and 2010 ... not
much since.
The website doesn't lead me to think much of their design skills:
http://www.blest.co.jp/ http://www.blest.co.jp/seihin.html
Industrial size - http://www.blest.co.jp/seihin.html
Reddit:
uses. If this would be not
much we probably all had one by now.
2013/8/12 Michael R. Brown m...@fuguewriter.com
There was a big flurry about these machines in 2009 and 2010 ... not much
since.
The website doesn't lead me to think much of their design skills:
http://www.blest.co.jp/
http
On 4/17/2013 1:25 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote:
was a psychopath
The fill-in-the-name-blank accusation of our time. Sigh.
Does RMP not provide quite a critique of the psychiatric establishment?
And who diagnosed her, hmm? Don't throw around the term, otherwise you
might be
I believe this is rapidly veering from what the list is supposed to be
about, but let's just say I hear an *awful* lot more about
ReaganThatcherPinochetFriedmanBush43 than StalinMaoOtherLeftists.
Please, think of human values and have compassion for the
100,000,000-200,000,000 murdered by the
What if there's no boundary?
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Exactly, M.
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On 3/25/2013 9:17 AM, MarshaV wrote:
..
On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Michael R. Brown m...@fuguewriter.com wrote:
What if there's no boundary?
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On 3/11/2013 9:32 AM, MarshaV wrote:
RMP: When early Western investigators first read the Buddhist texts
they too interpreted nirvana as some kind of suicide.
A lot of it goes back to that terrible mistranslation of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dukkha as suffering.. That introduced a
We think about time in terms of space, as revealed in the way we talk
about it (looking ahead to our future; looking back at our past) and
in the results from psychology experiments. For instance, people from
countries that write right-to-left find it easier to associate future
events with the
He explained to me later that he had begun his career as a medical
student at the Kiev Medical Institute, but was expelled for distributing
provocative literature on campus. In the late sixties, the K.G.B.
labelled him politically unreliable, and sent him to prison for two
years. When he got
Hello Marsha -
What did you think of the juxtapose? Obviously we want to shed light on
the MOQ, so perhaps WSB is a deliberate hypertrophy of SQ, while Suzuki
delightedly swam in DQ.
Did they tell the story of Suzuki teaching in class? First Noble truth
... life is suffering! Second Noble
And Nietzsche is pale compared to Max Stirner (who influenced
Nietzsche). A generation before N., S. had launched an attack on
anything SQ in morals, and possibly in epistemology too.
The work states the individual is dominated by illusory concepts ('fixed
ideas' or 'spooks'), which can be
Marsha,
What elicited your YUCK!!! response about Burroughs? One can say YUCK!!!
about anything. ; )
Burroughs has to be understood as not just a straight man - he's playing
multiple games.
In Pirisigian terms, you could look at him as taking SQ so far it
self-destructs.
MRB
On
M. -
Lovely!
M.
Lovely On 11/20/2012 9:57 PM, MarshaV wrote:
Mr. Cogito and the Imagination
by Zbigniew Herbert
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It all comes from mistranslating dukha!
The Noble Truth, more accurately translated, is: life gets out of joint.
MRB
On 11/19/2012 12:01 AM, MarshaV wrote:
When early Western investigators first read the Buddhist texts they too
interpreted nirvana as some kind of suicide. There's a famous
Pontius Pilate asked a deeper question. : )
Jesus provided an even deeper answer. Remember?
MRB
On 11/17/2012 2:26 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote:
Hi DMB and All,
DQ/RE/MI/FA/SOL/LA/TI/DO. Which one is truth?
Joe
On 11/17/12 8:57 AM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
But Marsha is
Zen purports to lead its adherents to insights akin to that mentioned by
Śākyamuni Buddha in his Flower Sermon in which he held up a white flower
and just admired it in his hand.[2] Mahākāśyapa smiled faintly, and
Śākyamuni Buddha picked that disciple as one who truly understood him
and who
RMP's line may be directly descended from/commenting on/writing into the
MOQ of one of William S. Burroughs' central lines:
EXTERMINATE ALL RATIONAL THOUGHT.
Notable background is that Burroughs was the most cerebral of men, that
he was a descendent of the Burroughs adding-machine fortune,
Some schools of thought disagree.
That was a major source of disagreement between Von Mises and Ayn Rand,
and it continues to this day in their schools.
One of AR's major villains was a values free scientist -
http://conservapedia.com/Robert_Stadler . Indeed, Atlas Shrugged can
be seen in
Awesome! The best humor is.
MRB
On 11/4/2012 10:24 AM, craig...@comcast.net wrote:
MRB,
I found the last joke (*/Sound Thinking/*) sexist, ageist corporatist.
Craig
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:-)
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Awesome! The best humor is.
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Hello all -
Rarely would I forward an email making the rounds, but this seems too
apropos not to. I love finding popular examples of abstract things -
rather like R.H. Blyth and his book Zen in English Literature.
MRB
*/Repairing Differences/*
A mechanic was re moving a cylinder head
Micah -
You overlooked this important part of the setup:
A mechanic was removing a cylinder head from the motor
Is that going to happen while the cycle's running?
MRB
On 11/3/2012 4:50 PM, Micah wrote:
Heart surgeon vs. mechanic...anybody that has set foot in a repair
shop knows that
I always thought you were a Dominatrix at heart.
Mistress Lila!
MRB
On 11/2/2012 12:28 PM, MarshaV wrote:
and worthy of your nonsensical judgements. It's called naive realism, and
it is hilarious to read your posts.
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... Strictly speaking, the creation of any metaphysics is an immoral
act since it's a lower form of evolution, intellect, trying to devour a
higher mystic one.
We live in a universe with devouring as a natural feature. RMP sure
enjoyed his steak!
We need that arrogance, that fall from
The interesting question in MoQ logic is - what gathers X and Y and Z
together, since there are not the cutting strokes of SOM metaphysics.
Interesting things happen to genuses in MoQ-logical systems.
Will anything be formally decidable - or undecidable? What would an
MoQ symbolic logical
.
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He didn't like dogs.
Marsha
On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Michael R. Brown m...@fuguewriter.com wrote:
What kind of dog is that?
That's a -good- dog.
[ from memory ]
Fuguewriting,
MRB
On 10/23/2012 1:31 AM, MarshaV wrote:
``What should I be when I grow up?''
The bird disappears over
Hi M. -
There's always the danger of ossification.
A New Age system I like -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Michael_Teachings - says As soon as a
religion is written down, it dies.
I know Pirsig isn't (explicitly) trying for a new religion.
Yet out of the archeology of dead traces, new
What kind of dog is that?
That's a -good- dog.
[ from memory ]
Fuguewriting,
MRB
On 10/23/2012 1:31 AM, MarshaV wrote:
``What should I be when I grow up?''
The bird disappears over a far ridge. I don't know what to say. ``Honest,'' I
finally say.
(ZAMM, Chapter 22)
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On 10/20/2012 11:39 AM, david buchanan wrote:
pragmatists like James wanted us to give up 'ideologies'.”
Pragmatism, he said, is “the attitude of looking away from first things,
principles, ‘categories,’ supposed necessities; and of looking towards
last things, fruits, consequences, facts.”
Self-refuting. : )
On 10/18/2012 12:19 AM, MarshaV wrote:
Every sentence I utter must be understood not as an affirmation, but
as a question. (Niels Bohr)
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MV -
Your seeing is your thinking, there.
MRB
On 10/18/2012 1:05 AM, MarshaV wrote:
'Michael,
I see that as your problem, not mine.
Marsha
On Oct 18, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Michael R. Brown wrote:
Self-refuting. : )
On 10/18/2012 12:19 AM, MarshaV wrote:
Every sentence I utter must
mm.
eminem!
m.
On 10/18/2012 1:15 AM, MarshaV wrote:
m,
The complexity of seeing,
the eye and not I.
m
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Centralized government systems only work for defense and
justice-administration - at best.
This is because government is inertial.
MRB
On 10/17/2012 10:47 AM, 118 wrote:
Yes, I agree, so long as they are not BHO's beliefs. He is certainly
unAmerican in his belief system. Time to get
I read every word.
It's very observable, pragmatically-empirically, that centralized
government is clunky. Observe the slow growth future we have before us
and the gigantic programs sucking away productive energy - Social
Security and Medicare are terribly-designed and were from their start -
Hi Ant -
Tried, and failed!
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From: Ant McWatt
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:57 AM
To: moq discuss
Subject: Re: [MD] What's up, Doc?
Dear All,
Until
Errol was an estimable writer. Some of his journal writing is fascinating:
There are many worlds, each in its own time and place ... Truth is
sometimes an octagon. (from memory)
He wrote two novels, little-known. Both - like Lila - featuring water and
boats. Not bad.
MRB
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Whaah whaah whaah.
Very high Quality.
Y'all should just have a nice orgy. ; )
MRB
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From: david buchanan
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 10:50 AM
To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org
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Marsha said to David Harding:
If, without permission, you
The wayfarer,
Perceiving the pathway to truth,
Was struck with astonishment.
It was thickly grown with weeds.
Ha, he said,
I see that none has passed here
In a long time.
Later he saw that each weed
Was a singular knife.
Well, he mumbled at last,
Doubtless there are other roads.
- Stephen Crane
you are using eyes in a symbolic sense. In MOQ, mystical means
free of static quality. There are no alpha or betas required. That is of
course if you want to discuss MOQ.
I enjoy your website by the way.
Mark
On Aug 16, 2012, at 1:32 PM, Michael R. Brown m...@fuguewriter.com wrote:
Mystical
Mystical - from the ancient Greek myein - to shut the eyes. That's all!
MRB
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Hi MarshaV,
If you are operating within an
heart is far beyond social level caring.
Yet includes.
MRB
On Aug 13, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Michael R. Brown m...@fuguewriter.com wrote:
I can't decide if I'm an extroverted introvert or an introverted
extrovert.
I do know that extroverts have a lower baseline cortical activity
118 wrote:
Psychology is a tool of the Devil.
What a recommendation! Without the Devil, where would we be? See Blake.
It only seeks to infiltrate the very soul with objective reality.
Oh, it does, does it? To Korzybski remedial class with you!
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I can't decide if I'm an extroverted introvert or an introverted extrovert.
I do know that extroverts have a lower baseline cortical activity - and are
less liable to depression and ruminating. Partly for that reason.
MRB
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Sent: Monday, August 13,
Everything has static and dynamic elements. Everything.
And it goes all the way down. : )
MRB
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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:08 AM
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Subject: [MD] an apple
Greetings,
I am interested in the relationship between consciousness and static
When there's an argument over definitions, it's helpful to ask why the
concept is needed at all. (Thanks for the pointer, Ayn!)
What gives rise to it? Just tradition? Because that's how it sounds like
doing respectable philosophy?
If the question can be answered, the definition often comes
It's important to distinguish between a thing, our idea of that thing, and
the presence of that thing in our thinking.
One may start out with ideas solidly saturated with SQ and very little
admittance of DQ. This doesn't mean that one *knows* about SQ or DQ.
Phaedrus is an amazing example of
Scientific American @sciam - RT @newscientist: Incandela finishes: We have
observed a new boson with a mass of 123 gev at 4.9 sigma. Applause won't
stop #Higgs
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[Rand's] ultimate heroes - Roark and Galt - were also both working-class
guys.
Not so.
So. I was referring to their backgrounds. That was the context.
They were both professionals (architect engineer, respectively.)
Not quite. Roark ended as a successful
Words don't do justice to DQ descriptively but their spontaneous emergence
can. That can be part of the cutting edge of awareness.
( D.H. Lawrence does a great job in Lady Chatterley's Lover showing
spontaneous words and phrase-fragments coming to Connie's mind as she begins
to awaken. )
How about thinking of SOM metaphysics as a game?
If you tried to describe absolutely everything *as if* it were discrete,
with local and non-hidden variables, here's what you'd get.
SOM philosophy is a game that forgot it was a game.
MRB
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Jan -
She didn't agree with how business was being conducted in its time - even
less so would she like it these days, as far as bank behavior. (A
Rand-inspired bank avoided the paper money debt junk and did very well
through the crash: )
It's worth noting that her ultimately worst villain
Jan -
Others than I were talking about Rand - including you. : )
And yes, actually, there is some relevance: as both a contrast - she's the
arch-priestess of SOM and an Aristotle-lover (though she would not have
liked McKeon), and hence valuable as a contrast - and as to some points of
That documentary is hideous.
http://fuguewriter.wordpress.com/2011/05/25/notes-on-a-terrible-bbc-documentary-taking-on-ayn-rand/
MRB
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Subject: Re: [MD] ZAMM in top 100 fave
ZEN AND THE ART OF MOTORCYCLE MAINTENANCE by Robert Pirsig
- http://www.modernlibrary.com/top-100/100-best-novels/
[ Rand is #1 and #2 – L.R. Hubbard is #3 ]
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!
And I repeat: !
Thank you!
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Ant announced a month or so ago that BBC R4 was producing a radio
dramatization of ZMM.
It's next weekend
I haven't seen an A lately, personally. : )
MRB
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The Logic of the Diamond Sutra: A is not A, therefore it is A
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The glorious dangers of freedom.
- Harvey Wickham
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Society, like nature, is under no obligation to be mechanically linear or
consistent.
Thus, for instance, do humans have both monogamous and anti-monogamous
trends in the same individual.
As far as evolution goes, what promotes complex fluency-with-firmness is
selected.
MRB
ARLO
It
We are. : )
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How do we experience indefinable DQ?
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Ramanujan.
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What is the name of the bottom turtle?
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define - late 14c., to specify; to end, from O.Fr. defenir to end,
terminate, determine, and directly from L. definire to limit, determine,
explain, from de- completely (see de-) + finire to bound, limit, from
finis boundary, end (see finish). Related: Defined; defining.
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Plato had the sense to show young Socrates stumbling over attributing
Formage to dirt and other such unelevated things.
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One of the problems is in defining subjective consciousness. It's sui
generis, and definitions use intersecting classes.
Ayn Rand had an elegant solution: she made Consciousness one of her system's
axiomatic concepts, along with Existence and Identity.
MRB
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Ken Wilber is fun - sort of a philosophical entertainer a la Alan Watts, and
also (like Watts) creator of a pretty substantial commercial apparatus.
After all, one must live!
His original insight about the Spectrum of Consciousness is awesome and his
best thing. His later stuff seems somewhat
Of course Plato's Good is a fixed idea. To the Ancient Greeks,
pre-Aristotle, that which changed in any way was not truly real and could
not be truly good.
MRB
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Haidt has figured out how political attitudes are constructed, and in time -
when his stuff is joined up with evolutionary psychology - we may actually
have a world in which there's genuine Democratic Peace [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_peace_theory ] and no more Democide
[
Since we're talking of promotions ... here's my two most recent books, free
c/o Amazon, readable without Kindle for those who don't have one, on
Amazon's cloud thingie:
My 2012 reader of Mary MacLane's writing - Montana writer, 600 pages, no one
like her:
There's no one thing to be done to help the MOQ.
One important thing is to get a variety of takes and instantiations of it.
Show it to best advantage. Show how (i.e., that) it *works.*
I remain convinced that without bringing in passionate emotion (and the
present communitarianism), it'll
Hi Joseph -
The rigid logic of mathematics cannot embrace indefinable DQ. Levels in
evolution embrace DQ. The rigid logic of mathematics cannot embrace 1 as a
metaphysical principle of 1, individuality, which flows through different
disciplines in evolution.
Forgive me if I've posted it
HI 118 -
AArrgghh MRB,
Often the reaction to me!
What are you doing?! Now I have to read all about Gorham!
You should. The Pagan Bible has some seriously intriguing stuff in it,
sometimes G. is positively inspired, but as my site mentions he and his
people had noxious homophobic and
Why does Lila need it? : )
In unrelated news, I once had a dream intuition that the Riemann Hypothesis
could be solved cryptographically: by treating the known zeroes as data
points relative to the natural numbers. Beats me if it would work, but it
came with some great imagery: the Riemann
Funny how y'all start sounding like the same person. : )
MRB
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Zen is a trick of words.
MRB
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Either Marsha or Mark said:
Yes, my posts are meant for those who wish for a way out of the static world
of thought. The idea is to free oneself from words.
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You're far from cutting through the matter. : )
MRB
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Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 5:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [MD] Drivel v MOQ
Yeah but this is a discussion group, not a zen garden. If you want to
free yourself from
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