Smokers can go out for some fun! They can go everywhere non-smokers go!
If the ordinance is passed, they will not be able to smoke in bars and
restaurants. The addiction argument doesn't work. Smokers sit through
four hour airplane flights, three hour sporting events at Target Center
and the
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Jim Bernstein wrote:
Smokers just want to smoke and don't give a damn about the other people
in the room!
Smoking is never having to say you're sorry.
Arrogance thy name is smoker.
--David Shove
Roseville
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My question
is have any real cuts been made anywhere??
The Police Department management, the Mayor and the Public Safety Committee cut the
police department's only crime prevention program. I know 15 people who are displaced
and directly impacted. All law abiding citizens are suffering
I said all-smoking, separate, not even the same building. I've said
over and over smokers DON'T want to bug other people. Never mind. You read
through your own lens.
Seeing your names on messages in my mailbox literally caused a surge of
adrenaline, as it was a dead certainty you would attack.
Although I have no advanced degree, this old Anthropology major has got to
object to the opinion expressed in the first post below (pasted below
asterisks). Human beings are different from other social mammals in that our use of
culture, information passed across generations outside of the
So much so, that one dealer once told a Franklin
Avenue storeowner that he had come to Minneapolis and
started his business within a few hours.
He said everyone (even in Chicago) knew about how good
Chicago and Franklin in Minneapolis was, so he just
caught a plane from Chicago Illinois and at
the
Pedestrians already have the right of way at any marked cross walk or any
intersection (marked or not) by state law. I think it is high time that
drivers become educated to this fact. A month long crack-down on
violators by all law enforcement agencies state wide would go a long way to
David Brower writes:
As Terrell Brown noted [That is a big part of why Sharon Sayles Belton,
Jackie Cherryhomes and Joan Campbell no longer have offices in City Hall],
the 2001 election was a referendum on the actions of city leaders, and its
probably fairer to judge the current crop with fresher
Sorry, forgot to sign!
Jennifer Pedersen
Powderhorn
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Well Mark I would like to agree with you but I can't.
When Whittier had the Fair Oaks Motel Hell in our
neighborhood, drug dealers would come here from
Chicago, stay in the hotel, sell a bunch of drugs and
then go back to Chitown. The reason it is so
attractive to come here from Chicago and deal
Mark Wilde writes,
How was he filling orders? Did he bring the drugs
with him from Chicago? This is the kind of a friend
of a friend told me story that really doesn't make
any sense when you think about it.
While I agree with most of the rest of this post, this
story really get me mad
Imagine spending your hard-earned money for a night on the town surrounded
by a bunch of self-righteous bullies. I'd rather have a root canal.
Out of kindness, I think that the zealots should let everyone know which
restaurants and clubs they plan to frequent after the ban goes into effect.
I
On Jun 23, 2004, at 10:28 AM, Victoria Heller wrote:
Imagine spending your hard-earned money for a night on the town
surrounded
by a bunch of self-righteous bullies. I'd rather have a root canal.
I know - I hate those smokers, too!
DISCLAIMER: the above is satire. There are competing rights
--- Victoria Heller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I maintain that if Minneapolis voters had been told the truth about
the
mountains of debt they faced, they would have lived with the old
library for
a while longer. Clear thinking people would never have funded the
NRP with
borrowed money.
Jim Bernstein wrote:
Since none of the other arguments don't work, I sense that the argument
against the proposed ordinance is down to what I have always suspected:
Smokers just want to smoke and don't give a damn about the other people
in the room!
WM: From the palaver about this issue on this
--- gemgram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe a few of our drug and gang problems are home
grown, some came from L.A., some bad ones from
Detroit, some from K.C, and some from other U.S.
Cities. But yes, indeed, a whole lot of the gang and
drug problems have come to Minneapolis from Chicago...
Yes,
It appears that smoking a lot causes some problems with dental hygiene.
Conor Donnelly
Waite Park
From http://www.floss.com/smoking_and_periodontal_disease.htm
Smoking and periodontal disease
by Dr. Anthony Ienna
The effects of cigarette smoking on periodontal disease increases
Word on the street is that Steve McClellan has been fired at First
Avenue. One person connected with the club confirmed this, but that's
all I have right now. Don't know why it's happening.
Dude IS Mr. First Ave. He's been First Ave's guru forever, and even
though hundreds of people have made
and there's also this, which ran today, and is both outdated and prescient:
http://citypages.com/databank/25/1229/article12255.asp
G.R. Anderson Jr.
News Editor
City Pages
612.372.3720
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Mark Wilde wrote:
While I agree with most of the rest of this post, this
story really get me mad because it perpetuates a
widely, but wrongly, held belief that many of our
problems come from Chicago.
WM: Actually, there are a fair number of dealers along the corridor
between 15th and Chicago
on 6/22/04 9:13 PM, M J Stinnett wrote:
I read the report you cited. I also looked at the references. One of the
three primary referents is the 1993 EPA report which was so biased a
federal court awarded damages against the EPA.
You also brought up the CATO Institute report once again,
on 6/23/04 10:28 AM, Victoria Heller wrote:
Imagine spending your hard-earned money for a night on the town surrounded
by a bunch of self-righteous bullies. I'd rather have a root canal.
Out of kindness, I think that the zealots should let everyone know which
restaurants and clubs they
Council Member Schiff to host discussion on the future of MTN.
This Friday, June 25, at Breakfast with Gary, Minneapolis Telecommunications Network
staff will discuss the future of community access cable. The City's communications
department is studying whether or not to locate the MTN studios
I'm asking everyone - nicely - to refrain from the increasing
personalization of the smoking debate thread. We can discuss this
without name-calling each other.
Future personalization will be regarded as insult, which violates our
rules. Please stick to debating the issues, not characterizing
Regarding quality, peer-reviewed research on secondhand smoke, (search for
secondhand smoke, knock yourselves out, literally).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
Matt Schwei
Audubon
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Michael Atherton wrote:
Andy Driscoll wrote:
[Snip: removed a number of references citing the hazards of
second hand smoke.]
Now, Mr. Stinnett, something for all of you to chew on.
I could always find similar statistics and references that
show the dangers of motor vehicles to drivers,
--- Michael Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I could always find similar statistics and references that
show the dangers of motor vehicles to drivers, passengers,
pedestrians, and small children, but no one is proposing that
we ban automobiles (although they probably should).
Things
You read it here first, sort of. Here's the Strib story:
http://www.startribune.com/stories/919/4843853.html
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On Wednesday, June 23, 2004, at 09:57 AM, Victoria Heller wrote:
Minneapolis taxpayers should keep a copy of this statement handy when
they
vote for things like the new $100 million glass palace library. How
much do
you think it will cost to heat and cool this greenhouse? Where will the
money
Forwarded at the request of city communications staff
Minneapolis Police Department
Business Plan
Presentation to Public Safety and Regulatory Services
June 23, 2004
Opening statement from Chief William McManus:
We're all aware that budget challenges at the State and City have put
This would be far worse than Dayton's changing hands. This would
indeed be the end of an era. Steve's been the soul of what's become one of the two
or three greatest clubs ever, and I mean in the U.S.
Don't have a clue what's happening so I won't add any more than
Say it
Terrell Brown wrote:
Things that _can_ be used safely, without causing harm to the user or
others (partial list):
Handguns
Assault rifles
Automobiles
Alcohol
Trampolines
Swimming Pools
Motorcycles
All of these have potential risks to the user and others.
Things that can't be used
Budget balancing requires us to look at some combination of increasing
revenues and decreasing expenses. Most of the city's current expenses
are not necessarily able to be reduced without jepordizing the financial
rating of the city's bonds or its livability. These expenses include
debt payments,
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Contact: Dennis Sanders
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Log Cabin Republicans of Minnesota Endorse David Dayhoff for Minneapolis
School Board
MINNEAPOLIS- The Minnesota chapter of Log Cabin Republicans decided
On 6/23/04 6:22 PM, Chris Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I did my own math, and was shocked. The amount I pay in property taxes
for the library system in 2005 will be about three-hundred percent of
what I paid this year. And I'll be paying on the debt for the next 25
years as well, while
Zoning is but one powerful tool in the land use planning arena, and an
often misused one. Upzoning in carefully targeted areas of the city might be
something to consider, but might have dire consequences in many other areas. The
limited city control over property values includes zoning in
Bill said:
We don't really need all that many expensive condos
in the North Loop; they are nice and certainly bother
the residents less than the industrial uses that
brought in the bacon at one time, but they really
aren't the sort of housing we need now. And I suspect
that when you factor in the
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