Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
Doesn't Intune integrate with SCCM 2012? Wouldn't the SCCM 2012 client then use Intune when off site? Nick Gailfus Computer Technician p. 602.953.2933 f. 602.953.0831 nick.gail...@leonagroup.com nick.gail...@gmail.com| www.leonagroup.com On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Daniel Ratliff dratl...@humana.com wrote: Cant have both clients on same device. *Daniel Ratliff* *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Lindenfeld, Ivan *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2015 12:07 PM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Infrequent connection to corporate network? SCCM covers it while on the network, Intune covers it while off? Ivan Lindenfeld *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcum, John *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:20 AM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Why would you do that? Why would you put the intune client on a Windows device if you have ConfigMgr? Makes no sense to me. *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Anoop C Nair *Sent:* Wednesday, March 04, 2015 7:10 PM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? The *real* single pane of glass is still not there in ConfigMgr + Intune hybrid environment, Isn't it? For example, When we install FULL Intune client on a workstation, then we can't manage the device from CM12 console as that device record won't be visible from CM12 console. To manage those type of workstations you may need to open up Intune console. Probably this may also change in the future :) Best Regards, *Anoop C Nair* On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Michael Niehaus michael.nieh...@microsoft.com wrote: Not really, you just need to use set logic: · A group of PCs, by the nature of how they are used, will be managed using on-premises infrastructure. · Another group of PCs and other devices, because they are used differently, will be managed from the cloud. · You have two management options, but that shouldn’t mean double the work – administer them both at once. That’s really the “single pane of glass” vision that the ConfigMgr/Intune team has been touting for the past few years. And interestingly enough, it’s exactly the same vision being stated by analysts as the goal for most customers: They don’t want multiple management solutions, as it takes more effort to operate that. Instead, they see a natural convergence between on-prem and cloud-based management, across the industry. Thanks, -Michael *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Rod Trent *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2015 4:27 PM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Semi-circular logic: · Rich PC management will continue to be an on-premises workload. · Enterprise Mobility Management will be delivered via cloud services. · IT wants a single tool for managing PCs and mobile devices. · Organizations will begin to shift to MDM-like management for some their PCs. *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Phil Wilcock *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:58 AM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Timely article from Mr Anderson today on this very topic - http://blogs.technet.com/b/in_the_cloud/archive/2015/03/04/what-we-re-doing-amp-why-we-ll-do-it-our-enterprise-mobility-world-views.aspx *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *rodtr...@myitforum.com *Sent:* 03 March 2015 21:20 *To:* SMS *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Well, if you want to get technical, since licensing is now per user instead of per device… Modern User Management? [image: ] *From:* Marcum, John jmar...@babc.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:52 PM *To:* SMS mssms@lists.myitforum.com I like Modern devices better than Mobile and that's what I am hearing when talking to product team folks. *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Rod Trent *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 1:38 PM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? And, really it’s not about devices – or at least what we think computing devices are today. I see Intune taking on additional management capabilities in the near future
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
Bu, can Set Logic ever truly be effective in an ever-changing industry? … There are so many rapid changes, and so much innovation, that every EMM vendor involved must wrestle with the fact that what was state-of-the-art a year ago is now a baseline requirement – and all of this must be accounted for while still providing the best possible value/quality for customers. … The pace of innovation, and the amount of change across Windows, iOS, and Android, will continue to accelerate – and this will require continuous innovation and updates to be delivered via cloud services. It would be nearly impossible for organizations to continually add these updates to their distributed on-premises infrastructures. … As organizations do more mobile device management, many of them will update their strategy for PC management towards a MDM-style management paradigm. This move is a natural part of wanting to align management methodology across an entire organization. Organizations will start with wanting a single pane of glass for managing all their devices, and, after seeing the widespread benefits of this, the natural next step is aligning not just the tools but the processes and paradigm. … IT wants fewer tools, not more. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:38 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Not really, you just need to use set logic: * A group of PCs, by the nature of how they are used, will be managed using on-premises infrastructure. * Another group of PCs and other devices, because they are used differently, will be managed from the cloud. * You have two management options, but that shouldn’t mean double the work – administer them both at once. That’s really the “single pane of glass” vision that the ConfigMgr/Intune team has been touting for the past few years. And interestingly enough, it’s exactly the same vision being stated by analysts as the goal for most customers: They don’t want multiple management solutions, as it takes more effort to operate that. Instead, they see a natural convergence between on-prem and cloud-based management, across the industry. Thanks, -Michael From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 4:27 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Semi-circular logic: * Rich PC management will continue to be an on-premises workload. * Enterprise Mobility Management will be delivered via cloud services. * IT wants a single tool for managing PCs and mobile devices. * Organizations will begin to shift to MDM-like management for some their PCs. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wilcock Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Timely article from Mr Anderson today on this very topic - http://blogs.technet.com/b/in_the_cloud/archive/2015/03/04/what-we-re-doing-amp-why-we-ll-do-it-our-enterprise-mobility-world-views.aspx From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: 03 March 2015 21:20 To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Well, if you want to get technical, since licensing is now per user instead of per device… Modern User Management? From: Marcum, John mailto:jmar...@babc.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:52 PM To: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com I like Modern devices better than Mobile and that's what I am hearing when talking to product team folks. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 1:38 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? And, really it’s not about devices – or at least what we think computing devices are today. I see Intune taking on additional management capabilities in the near future to manage even IoT and wearables. At least, it has to. It should actually be “mobility management” From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:22 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
Semi-circular logic: * Rich PC management will continue to be an on-premises workload. * Enterprise Mobility Management will be delivered via cloud services. * IT wants a single tool for managing PCs and mobile devices. * Organizations will begin to shift to MDM-like management for some their PCs. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wilcock Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Timely article from Mr Anderson today on this very topic - http://blogs.technet.com/b/in_the_cloud/archive/2015/03/04/what-we-re-doing-amp-why-we-ll-do-it-our-enterprise-mobility-world-views.aspx From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: 03 March 2015 21:20 To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Well, if you want to get technical, since licensing is now per user instead of per device… Modern User Management? From: Marcum, John mailto:jmar...@babc.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:52 PM To: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com I like Modern devices better than Mobile and that's what I am hearing when talking to product team folks. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 1:38 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? And, really it’s not about devices – or at least what we think computing devices are today. I see Intune taking on additional management capabilities in the near future to manage even IoT and wearables. At least, it has to. It should actually be “mobility management” From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:22 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Yes, “mobile device management” isn’t just for mobile devices :) Windows Intune has its own agent, or with Windows 8.1 and above it can use OMA-DM protocols that are built into the OS. With Windows 8.1, those are fairly limited, so the focus is more on BYOD scenarios (for desktops) and lightweight management (phones and desktops). For Windows 10, there will be more capabilities added (explored in detail at Ignite). Of course Intune also does iOS, Android, etc. Thanks, -Michael From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:14 PM To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Looks like I really need to read up on Intune. I thought it was just for mobile devices, but it seems I’m completely wrong on that. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:40 PM To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I was there for the actual keynote. There's a bit of semantics going on. Workloads for the foreseeable future can mean a number of things, and there's been a LOT of activity in the background since that keynote. The core message is that Microsoft intends to support customers - not products. Microsoft understands that customers are inherently slow to adopt new products that require massive migrations. There are customers still running CM 2007, even SMS 2003. So, when it's said that CM will be supported for the foreseeable future, it means as long as customers are still running it. Focus is on Intune right now, and has been for a long while. CM may see some improvements, but only in areas where it makes sense to the Microsoft vision. Don't expect major new features. For example, one of the bigger features we'll see in the Fall for CM 2012 R2 is better integration with Intune. App and OS delivery are the only real pieces of CM that can't be Cloud-based right now, but that change is coming. Microsoft will attempt to make Windows 10 the compelling reason for customers to move to Intune with changes in how apps and the OS delivers. From: 'Bill Bernat' mailto:bill.ber...@adaptiva.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
So, it’s less about a gulf between ConfigMgr and Intune and more about eliminating the need for third party partner solutions? more stirring the pot From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 11:37 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Today, enterprises typically have 3-4 different management tools – the worst one I’ve talked to had seven. They want “one”, or at least the effort required for “one.” So most orgs would see ConfigMgr + Intune to be an improvement (from a count perspective). At this point, I do see more than two sets, as it’s typically a 2x2 grid: on-prem vs. cloud, rich vs. lightweight. And when you throw in the matrix of devices you want to support (Windows, iOS, Android), it starts getting at least partially three-dimensional (as rich management typically isn’t an option, and use cases aren’t often on-prem). But still, the goal would be “one” solution. It’s interesting how the evolution of Intune affects perceptions. What would have happened if the evolution would have looked more like this: * ConfigMgr adds MDM capabilities to provide light-weight management of on-prem devices of various types (including Windows). Scalability numbers go through the roof with this light-weight mechanism. * ConfigMgr adds cloud-based services to support managing devices that are connected only to the Internet, not to the corporate network. * A complete cloud-based solution enables all pieces to be hosted in the cloud, run by Microsoft. The path that ConfigMgr + Intune took is different from that, but I’d be willing to bet the eventual destination is still the same. Thanks, -Michael p.s. There are more ConfigMgr sessions at Ignite than Intune ones :) From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 5:00 PM To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Fewer tools, yes, but that can be taken to such an extreme, with one tool trying to manage/control so much that basic functionality, or even just ease of use, slips through the cracks, and it becomes tiresome to use the tool, or the tool becomes ineffective. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 7:50 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Bu, can Set Logic ever truly be effective in an ever-changing industry? … There are so many rapid changes, and so much innovation, that every EMM vendor involved must wrestle with the fact that what was state-of-the-art a year ago is now a baseline requirement – and all of this must be accounted for while still providing the best possible value/quality for customers. … The pace of innovation, and the amount of change across Windows, iOS, and Android, will continue to accelerate – and this will require continuous innovation and updates to be delivered via cloud services. It would be nearly impossible for organizations to continually add these updates to their distributed on-premises infrastructures. … As organizations do more mobile device management, many of them will update their strategy for PC management towards a MDM-style management paradigm. This move is a natural part of wanting to align management methodology across an entire organization. Organizations will start with wanting a single pane of glass for managing all their devices, and, after seeing the widespread benefits of this, the natural next step is aligning not just the tools but the processes and paradigm. … IT wants fewer tools, not more. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:38 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Not really, you just need to use set logic: * A group of PCs, by the nature of how they are used, will be managed using on-premises infrastructure. * Another group of PCs and other devices, because they are used differently, will be managed from the cloud. * You have two management options, but that shouldn’t mean double the work – administer them both at once. That’s really the “single pane of glass” vision that the ConfigMgr/Intune team has been touting for the past few years. And interestingly enough, it’s exactly the same vision being stated by analysts as the goal for most customers
Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
The *real* single pane of glass is still not there in ConfigMgr + Intune hybrid environment, Isn't it? For example, When we install FULL Intune client on a workstation, then we can't manage the device from CM12 console as that device record won't be visible from CM12 console. To manage those type of workstations you may need to open up Intune console. Probably this may also change in the future :) Best Regards, *Anoop C Nair* On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Michael Niehaus michael.nieh...@microsoft.com wrote: Not really, you just need to use set logic: · A group of PCs, by the nature of how they are used, will be managed using on-premises infrastructure. · Another group of PCs and other devices, because they are used differently, will be managed from the cloud. · You have two management options, but that shouldn’t mean double the work – administer them both at once. That’s really the “single pane of glass” vision that the ConfigMgr/Intune team has been touting for the past few years. And interestingly enough, it’s exactly the same vision being stated by analysts as the goal for most customers: They don’t want multiple management solutions, as it takes more effort to operate that. Instead, they see a natural convergence between on-prem and cloud-based management, across the industry. Thanks, -Michael *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Rod Trent *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2015 4:27 PM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Semi-circular logic: · Rich PC management will continue to be an on-premises workload. · Enterprise Mobility Management will be delivered via cloud services. · IT wants a single tool for managing PCs and mobile devices. · Organizations will begin to shift to MDM-like management for some their PCs. *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Phil Wilcock *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:58 AM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Timely article from Mr Anderson today on this very topic - http://blogs.technet.com/b/in_the_cloud/archive/2015/03/04/what-we-re-doing-amp-why-we-ll-do-it-our-enterprise-mobility-world-views.aspx *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *rodtr...@myitforum.com *Sent:* 03 March 2015 21:20 *To:* SMS *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Well, if you want to get technical, since licensing is now per user instead of per device… Modern User Management? [image: ] *From:* Marcum, John jmar...@babc.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:52 PM *To:* SMS mssms@lists.myitforum.com I like Modern devices better than Mobile and that's what I am hearing when talking to product team folks. *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Rod Trent *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2015 1:38 PM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? And, really it’s not about devices – or at least what we think computing devices are today. I see Intune taking on additional management capabilities in the near future to manage even IoT and wearables. At least, it has to. It should actually be “mobility management” *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael Niehaus *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:22 PM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Yes, “mobile device management” isn’t just for mobile devices J Windows Intune has its own agent, or with Windows 8.1 and above it can use OMA-DM protocols that are built into the OS. With Windows 8.1, those are fairly limited, so the focus is more on BYOD scenarios (for desktops) and lightweight management (phones and desktops). For Windows 10, there will be more capabilities added (explored in detail at Ignite). Of course Intune also does iOS, Android, etc. Thanks, -Michael *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:14 PM *To:* 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Looks like I really need to read up on Intune. I thought it was just for mobile devices, but it seems I’m completely wrong on that. *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *rodtr...@myitforum.com
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
Timely article from Mr Anderson today on this very topic - http://blogs.technet.com/b/in_the_cloud/archive/2015/03/04/what-we-re-doing-amp-why-we-ll-do-it-our-enterprise-mobility-world-views.aspx From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: 03 March 2015 21:20 To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Well, if you want to get technical, since licensing is now per user instead of per device… Modern User Management? From: Marcum, Johnmailto:jmar...@babc.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:52 PM To: SMSmailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com I like Modern devices better than Mobile and that's what I am hearing when talking to product team folks. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 1:38 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? And, really it’s not about devices – or at least what we think computing devices are today. I see Intune taking on additional management capabilities in the near future to manage even IoT and wearables. At least, it has to. It should actually be “mobility management” From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:22 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Yes, “mobile device management” isn’t just for mobile devices ☺ Windows Intune has its own agent, or with Windows 8.1 and above it can use OMA-DM protocols that are built into the OS. With Windows 8.1, those are fairly limited, so the focus is more on BYOD scenarios (for desktops) and lightweight management (phones and desktops). For Windows 10, there will be more capabilities added (explored in detail at Ignite). Of course Intune also does iOS, Android, etc. Thanks, -Michael From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:14 PM To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Looks like I really need to read up on Intune. I thought it was just for mobile devices, but it seems I’m completely wrong on that. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:40 PM To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I was there for the actual keynote. There's a bit of semantics going on. Workloads for the foreseeable future can mean a number of things, and there's been a LOT of activity in the background since that keynote. The core message is that Microsoft intends to support customers - not products. Microsoft understands that customers are inherently slow to adopt new products that require massive migrations. There are customers still running CM 2007, even SMS 2003. So, when it's said that CM will be supported for the foreseeable future, it means as long as customers are still running it. Focus is on Intune right now, and has been for a long while. CM may see some improvements, but only in areas where it makes sense to the Microsoft vision. Don't expect major new features. For example, one of the bigger features we'll see in the Fall for CM 2012 R2 is better integration with Intune. App and OS delivery are the only real pieces of CM that can't be Cloud-based right now, but that change is coming. Microsoft will attempt to make Windows 10 the compelling reason for customers to move to Intune with changes in how apps and the OS delivers. From: 'Bill Bernat'mailto:bill.ber...@adaptiva.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: SMSmailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.commailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
True, it could be any network-connected device that has lightweight management needs. Kind of like with SMS 2003 when they introduced the “mobile client” which was an improvement over the old client, much lighter-weight, and quickly replaced the old client, becoming the “advanced client.” Now, there’s something even lighter weight, MDM, that could conceivably take on some scenarios where you don’t need a huge amount of functionality. Thanks, -Michael From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:38 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? And, really it’s not about devices – or at least what we think computing devices are today. I see Intune taking on additional management capabilities in the near future to manage even IoT and wearables. At least, it has to. It should actually be “mobility management” From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:22 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Yes, “mobile device management” isn’t just for mobile devices ☺ Windows Intune has its own agent, or with Windows 8.1 and above it can use OMA-DM protocols that are built into the OS. With Windows 8.1, those are fairly limited, so the focus is more on BYOD scenarios (for desktops) and lightweight management (phones and desktops). For Windows 10, there will be more capabilities added (explored in detail at Ignite). Of course Intune also does iOS, Android, etc. Thanks, -Michael From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:14 PM To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Looks like I really need to read up on Intune. I thought it was just for mobile devices, but it seems I’m completely wrong on that. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:40 PM To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I was there for the actual keynote. There's a bit of semantics going on. Workloads for the foreseeable future can mean a number of things, and there's been a LOT of activity in the background since that keynote. The core message is that Microsoft intends to support customers - not products. Microsoft understands that customers are inherently slow to adopt new products that require massive migrations. There are customers still running CM 2007, even SMS 2003. So, when it's said that CM will be supported for the foreseeable future, it means as long as customers are still running it. Focus is on Intune right now, and has been for a long while. CM may see some improvements, but only in areas where it makes sense to the Microsoft vision. Don't expect major new features. For example, one of the bigger features we'll see in the Fall for CM 2012 R2 is better integration with Intune. App and OS delivery are the only real pieces of CM that can't be Cloud-based right now, but that change is coming. Microsoft will attempt to make Windows 10 the compelling reason for customers to move to Intune with changes in how apps and the OS delivers. From: 'Bill Bernat'mailto:bill.ber...@adaptiva.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: SMSmailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.commailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
And, really it’s not about devices – or at least what we think computing devices are today. I see Intune taking on additional management capabilities in the near future to manage even IoT and wearables. At least, it has to. It should actually be “mobility management” From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:22 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Yes, “mobile device management” isn’t just for mobile devices :) Windows Intune has its own agent, or with Windows 8.1 and above it can use OMA-DM protocols that are built into the OS. With Windows 8.1, those are fairly limited, so the focus is more on BYOD scenarios (for desktops) and lightweight management (phones and desktops). For Windows 10, there will be more capabilities added (explored in detail at Ignite). Of course Intune also does iOS, Android, etc. Thanks, -Michael From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:14 PM To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Looks like I really need to read up on Intune. I thought it was just for mobile devices, but it seems I’m completely wrong on that. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:40 PM To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I was there for the actual keynote. There's a bit of semantics going on. Workloads for the foreseeable future can mean a number of things, and there's been a LOT of activity in the background since that keynote. The core message is that Microsoft intends to support customers - not products. Microsoft understands that customers are inherently slow to adopt new products that require massive migrations. There are customers still running CM 2007, even SMS 2003. So, when it's said that CM will be supported for the foreseeable future, it means as long as customers are still running it. Focus is on Intune right now, and has been for a long while. CM may see some improvements, but only in areas where it makes sense to the Microsoft vision. Don't expect major new features. For example, one of the bigger features we'll see in the Fall for CM 2012 R2 is better integration with Intune. App and OS delivery are the only real pieces of CM that can't be Cloud-based right now, but that change is coming. Microsoft will attempt to make Windows 10 the compelling reason for customers to move to Intune with changes in how apps and the OS delivers. From: 'Bill Bernat' mailto:bill.ber...@adaptiva.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.com mailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol’ “slow moving software”. It’s not an easy game. MS will make most mistake’s again with Intune as they did with ConfigMgr, because people are like that. Writing new code generates bugs, period, since developers are human. So it will be slower than they think, and when
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
Indeed! There’s a great blog from Mr Sandys here http://blog.configmgrftw.com/comparing-the-two-modes-of-microsoft-intune/ which compares the two modes of Intune What’s interesting about Intune is the rate at which features can be/are being added with it being a Cloud Based service.. Phil Phil Wilcock 2Pint Software http://2pintsoftware.comhttp://2pintsoftware.com/ From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: 03 March 2015 19:14 To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Looks like I really need to read up on Intune. I thought it was just for mobile devices, but it seems I’m completely wrong on that. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:40 PM To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I was there for the actual keynote. There's a bit of semantics going on. Workloads for the foreseeable future can mean a number of things, and there's been a LOT of activity in the background since that keynote. The core message is that Microsoft intends to support customers - not products. Microsoft understands that customers are inherently slow to adopt new products that require massive migrations. There are customers still running CM 2007, even SMS 2003. So, when it's said that CM will be supported for the foreseeable future, it means as long as customers are still running it. Focus is on Intune right now, and has been for a long while. CM may see some improvements, but only in areas where it makes sense to the Microsoft vision. Don't expect major new features. For example, one of the bigger features we'll see in the Fall for CM 2012 R2 is better integration with Intune. App and OS delivery are the only real pieces of CM that can't be Cloud-based right now, but that change is coming. Microsoft will attempt to make Windows 10 the compelling reason for customers to move to Intune with changes in how apps and the OS delivers. From: 'Bill Bernat'mailto:bill.ber...@adaptiva.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: SMSmailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.commailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol’ “slow moving software”. It’s not an easy game. MS will make most mistake’s again with Intune as they did with ConfigMgr, because people are like that. Writing new code generates bugs, period, since developers are human. So it will be slower than they think, and when no new stuff comes to existing platform owners they will start not to renew Enterprise deals since there is a lack of roadmap, people will raise hell internally. And then God knows what will happen. So basically, Microsoft has to develop a kick-ass Intune with the same feature set that it took them 20 years to put into ConfigMgr + more. And this they have to do in a very short timeframe before losing new or existing customers. I think I recall that ConfigMgr 2012 was 9 million lines of code and the test tools had 4.5 million, so to finish in 5 years time they have to check in more than 12000 perfect lines of code each day. You do the math! ☺ Anyhow, my 2 cents after having 2Pints! So conditions do apply, now off to pester mr
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
Looks like I really need to read up on Intune. I thought it was just for mobile devices, but it seems I’m completely wrong on that. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:40 PM To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I was there for the actual keynote. There's a bit of semantics going on. Workloads for the foreseeable future can mean a number of things, and there's been a LOT of activity in the background since that keynote. The core message is that Microsoft intends to support customers - not products. Microsoft understands that customers are inherently slow to adopt new products that require massive migrations. There are customers still running CM 2007, even SMS 2003. So, when it's said that CM will be supported for the foreseeable future, it means as long as customers are still running it. Focus is on Intune right now, and has been for a long while. CM may see some improvements, but only in areas where it makes sense to the Microsoft vision. Don't expect major new features. For example, one of the bigger features we'll see in the Fall for CM 2012 R2 is better integration with Intune. App and OS delivery are the only real pieces of CM that can't be Cloud-based right now, but that change is coming. Microsoft will attempt to make Windows 10 the compelling reason for customers to move to Intune with changes in how apps and the OS delivers. From: 'Bill Bernat'mailto:bill.ber...@adaptiva.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: SMSmailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.commailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol’ “slow moving software”. It’s not an easy game. MS will make most mistake’s again with Intune as they did with ConfigMgr, because people are like that. Writing new code generates bugs, period, since developers are human. So it will be slower than they think, and when no new stuff comes to existing platform owners they will start not to renew Enterprise deals since there is a lack of roadmap, people will raise hell internally. And then God knows what will happen. So basically, Microsoft has to develop a kick-ass Intune with the same feature set that it took them 20 years to put into ConfigMgr + more. And this they have to do in a very short timeframe before losing new or existing customers. I think I recall that ConfigMgr 2012 was 9 million lines of code and the test tools had 4.5 million, so to finish in 5 years time they have to check in more than 12000 perfect lines of code each day. You do the math! ☺ Anyhow, my 2 cents after having 2Pints! So conditions do apply, now off to pester mr Arwidmark and Mikael Nyström on Twitter! //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ed Aldrich Sent: den 27 februari 2015 19:28 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? “I'm trying to interpret these marketing and materials changes to understand what MS will be pushing in the years to come. “ As far as us in the CfgMgr world are concerned, rest assured that the future holds cloud enabled management... Current initiatives around Intune show that clearly... while it still has a way to go before its prime
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
Yes, “mobile device management” isn’t just for mobile devices ☺ Windows Intune has its own agent, or with Windows 8.1 and above it can use OMA-DM protocols that are built into the OS. With Windows 8.1, those are fairly limited, so the focus is more on BYOD scenarios (for desktops) and lightweight management (phones and desktops). For Windows 10, there will be more capabilities added (explored in detail at Ignite). Of course Intune also does iOS, Android, etc. Thanks, -Michael From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:14 PM To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Looks like I really need to read up on Intune. I thought it was just for mobile devices, but it seems I’m completely wrong on that. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:40 PM To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I was there for the actual keynote. There's a bit of semantics going on. Workloads for the foreseeable future can mean a number of things, and there's been a LOT of activity in the background since that keynote. The core message is that Microsoft intends to support customers - not products. Microsoft understands that customers are inherently slow to adopt new products that require massive migrations. There are customers still running CM 2007, even SMS 2003. So, when it's said that CM will be supported for the foreseeable future, it means as long as customers are still running it. Focus is on Intune right now, and has been for a long while. CM may see some improvements, but only in areas where it makes sense to the Microsoft vision. Don't expect major new features. For example, one of the bigger features we'll see in the Fall for CM 2012 R2 is better integration with Intune. App and OS delivery are the only real pieces of CM that can't be Cloud-based right now, but that change is coming. Microsoft will attempt to make Windows 10 the compelling reason for customers to move to Intune with changes in how apps and the OS delivers. From: 'Bill Bernat'mailto:bill.ber...@adaptiva.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: SMSmailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.commailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol’ “slow moving software”. It’s not an easy game. MS will make most mistake’s again with Intune as they did with ConfigMgr, because people are like that. Writing new code generates bugs, period, since developers are human. So it will be slower than they think, and when no new stuff comes to existing platform owners they will start not to renew Enterprise deals since there is a lack of roadmap, people will raise hell internally. And then God knows what will happen. So basically, Microsoft has to develop a kick-ass Intune with the same feature set that it took them 20 years to put into ConfigMgr + more. And this they have to do in a very short timeframe before losing new or existing customers. I think I recall that ConfigMgr 2012 was 9 million lines of code and the test tools had 4.5 million, so to finish in 5 years time they have to check in more than 12000 perfect lines of code
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Monthly cadence From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wilcock Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:21 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Indeed! There’s a great blog from Mr Sandys here http://blog.configmgrftw.com/comparing-the-two-modes-of-microsoft-intune/ which compares the two modes of Intune What’s interesting about Intune is the rate at which features can be/are being added with it being a Cloud Based service.. Phil Phil Wilcock 2Pint Software http://2pintsoftware.com/ http://2pintsoftware.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: 03 March 2015 19:14 To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Looks like I really need to read up on Intune. I thought it was just for mobile devices, but it seems I’m completely wrong on that. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:40 PM To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I was there for the actual keynote. There's a bit of semantics going on. Workloads for the foreseeable future can mean a number of things, and there's been a LOT of activity in the background since that keynote. The core message is that Microsoft intends to support customers - not products. Microsoft understands that customers are inherently slow to adopt new products that require massive migrations. There are customers still running CM 2007, even SMS 2003. So, when it's said that CM will be supported for the foreseeable future, it means as long as customers are still running it. Focus is on Intune right now, and has been for a long while. CM may see some improvements, but only in areas where it makes sense to the Microsoft vision. Don't expect major new features. For example, one of the bigger features we'll see in the Fall for CM 2012 R2 is better integration with Intune. App and OS delivery are the only real pieces of CM that can't be Cloud-based right now, but that change is coming. Microsoft will attempt to make Windows 10 the compelling reason for customers to move to Intune with changes in how apps and the OS delivers. From: 'Bill Bernat' mailto:bill.ber...@adaptiva.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.com mailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol’ “slow moving software”. It’s not an easy game. MS will make most mistake’s again with Intune as they did with ConfigMgr, because people are like that. Writing new code generates bugs, period, since developers are human. So it will be slower than they think, and when no new stuff comes to existing platform owners they will start not to renew Enterprise deals since there is a lack of roadmap, people will raise hell internally. And then God knows what will happen. So basically, Microsoft has to develop a kick-ass Intune with the same feature set that it took them 20 years to put into ConfigMgr + more. And this they have to do
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
I like Modern devices better than Mobile and that's what I am hearing when talking to product team folks. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 1:38 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? And, really it’s not about devices – or at least what we think computing devices are today. I see Intune taking on additional management capabilities in the near future to manage even IoT and wearables. At least, it has to. It should actually be “mobility management” From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:22 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Yes, “mobile device management” isn’t just for mobile devices ☺ Windows Intune has its own agent, or with Windows 8.1 and above it can use OMA-DM protocols that are built into the OS. With Windows 8.1, those are fairly limited, so the focus is more on BYOD scenarios (for desktops) and lightweight management (phones and desktops). For Windows 10, there will be more capabilities added (explored in detail at Ignite). Of course Intune also does iOS, Android, etc. Thanks, -Michael From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:14 PM To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Looks like I really need to read up on Intune. I thought it was just for mobile devices, but it seems I’m completely wrong on that. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:40 PM To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I was there for the actual keynote. There's a bit of semantics going on. Workloads for the foreseeable future can mean a number of things, and there's been a LOT of activity in the background since that keynote. The core message is that Microsoft intends to support customers - not products. Microsoft understands that customers are inherently slow to adopt new products that require massive migrations. There are customers still running CM 2007, even SMS 2003. So, when it's said that CM will be supported for the foreseeable future, it means as long as customers are still running it. Focus is on Intune right now, and has been for a long while. CM may see some improvements, but only in areas where it makes sense to the Microsoft vision. Don't expect major new features. For example, one of the bigger features we'll see in the Fall for CM 2012 R2 is better integration with Intune. App and OS delivery are the only real pieces of CM that can't be Cloud-based right now, but that change is coming. Microsoft will attempt to make Windows 10 the compelling reason for customers to move to Intune with changes in how apps and the OS delivers. From: 'Bill Bernat'mailto:bill.ber...@adaptiva.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: SMSmailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.commailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things
Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
Well, if you want to get technical, since licensing is now per user instead of per device… Modern User Management? From: Marcum, John Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:52 PM To: SMS I like Modern devices better than Mobile and that's what I am hearing when talking to product team folks. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 1:38 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? And, really it’s not about devices – or at least what we think computing devices are today. I see Intune taking on additional management capabilities in the near future to manage even IoT and wearables. At least, it has to. It should actually be “mobility management” From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:22 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Yes, “mobile device management” isn’t just for mobile devices J Windows Intune has its own agent, or with Windows 8.1 and above it can use OMA-DM protocols that are built into the OS. With Windows 8.1, those are fairly limited, so the focus is more on BYOD scenarios (for desktops) and lightweight management (phones and desktops). For Windows 10, there will be more capabilities added (explored in detail at Ignite). Of course Intune also does iOS, Android, etc. Thanks, -Michael From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:14 PM To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Looks like I really need to read up on Intune. I thought it was just for mobile devices, but it seems I’m completely wrong on that. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:40 PM To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I was there for the actual keynote. There's a bit of semantics going on. Workloads for the foreseeable future can mean a number of things, and there's been a LOT of activity in the background since that keynote. The core message is that Microsoft intends to support customers - not products. Microsoft understands that customers are inherently slow to adopt new products that require massive migrations. There are customers still running CM 2007, even SMS 2003. So, when it's said that CM will be supported for the foreseeable future, it means as long as customers are still running it. Focus is on Intune right now, and has been for a long while. CM may see some improvements, but only in areas where it makes sense to the Microsoft vision. Don't expect major new features. For example, one of the bigger features we'll see in the Fall for CM 2012 R2 is better integration with Intune. App and OS delivery are the only real pieces of CM that can't be Cloud-based right now, but that change is coming. Microsoft will attempt to make Windows 10 the compelling reason for customers to move to Intune with changes in how apps and the OS delivers. From: 'Bill Bernat' Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: SMS It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol’ “slow moving software”. It’s not an easy
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Also, Intune can support Mac OS X as well if Apple can help with OMA-DM protocol into MAC OS X. Isn't it? Regards Anoop Best Regards, *Anoop C Nair* ConfigMgr Architect, Microsoft Community Contributor 2011 and 2012 / Senior Consultant *My Site: www.AnoopCNair.com http://www.AnoopCNair.com* *Twitter @anoopmannur http://twitter.com/anoopmannur* Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/ConfigMgr2012 * http://twitter.com/anoopmannur* On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:51 AM, Michael Niehaus michael.nieh...@microsoft.com wrote: Yes, “mobile device management” isn’t just for mobile devices J Windows Intune has its own agent, or with Windows 8.1 and above it can use OMA-DM protocols that are built into the OS. With Windows 8.1, those are fairly limited, so the focus is more on BYOD scenarios (for desktops) and lightweight management (phones and desktops). For Windows 10, there will be more capabilities added (explored in detail at Ignite). Of course Intune also does iOS, Android, etc. Thanks, -Michael *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:14 PM *To:* 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Looks like I really need to read up on Intune. I thought it was just for mobile devices, but it seems I’m completely wrong on that. *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *rodtr...@myitforum.com *Sent:* Friday, February 27, 2015 4:40 PM *To:* SMS *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I was there for the actual keynote. There's a bit of semantics going on. Workloads for the foreseeable future can mean a number of things, and there's been a LOT of activity in the background since that keynote. The core message is that Microsoft intends to support customers - not products. Microsoft understands that customers are inherently slow to adopt new products that require massive migrations. There are customers still running CM 2007, even SMS 2003. So, when it's said that CM will be supported for the foreseeable future, it means as long as customers are still running it. Focus is on Intune right now, and has been for a long while. CM may see some improvements, but only in areas where it makes sense to the Microsoft vision. Don't expect major new features. For example, one of the bigger features we'll see in the Fall for CM 2012 R2 is better integration with Intune. App and OS delivery are the only real pieces of CM that can't be Cloud-based right now, but that change is coming. Microsoft will attempt to make Windows 10 the compelling reason for customers to move to Intune with changes in how apps and the OS delivers. *From:* 'Bill Bernat' bill.ber...@adaptiva.com *Sent:* Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM *To:* SMS mssms@lists.myitforum.com It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx . -billb *From: *Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.com *Reply-To: *mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Date: *Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM *To: *mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject: *RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol’ “slow moving software”. It’s not an easy game. MS will make most mistake’s again with Intune as they did with ConfigMgr, because people are like that. Writing new code generates bugs, period, since developers are human. So it will be slower than they think, and when no new stuff comes to existing platform owners they will start not to renew Enterprise deals since there is a lack of roadmap, people will raise hell internally. And then God knows what will happen
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
Mike: you raised an interesting and very important question around cost implicit in doing Intune testing, so I've chased down a definitive answer for you from the Product Group directly: Once I burn an Intune evaluation (and I haven't tried yet so fear of the unknown...) can I sign up for another eval using my same email of do will I need to set up throw away email accounts to sign up using? If in the future having access to Azure and Intune subscriptions is a requirement that will become a barrier to those of us who do not have access to it. And the answer is a good one! You can have as many accounts as you want for a given email address. I've set up about a dozen with my own work email account. They can all exist simultaneously. And you don't need a credit card. A caveat to anyone who wants to do some sort of training session, though - if you try to sign up for more than three trial accounts from the same IP on the same day, DoS security measures will kick in unless you first get that IP address on the whitelist. https://support.live.com/eform.aspx?productKey=wlidipexcct=eformtsf=255MSPPError=-2147217396scrx=1 Also good to keep in mind is, a given cloud tenant you create can have only one trial account, ever. So let's say you create foo23.onmicrosoft.com and have a Intune trial there. Then you add some other services like Azure and O365 trials to that foo23. Your Intune trial runs out. You can still have your other services on their trials, but you can't create a new Intune subscription in foo23. You can create foo24 and have that for the full 30 days, and get your other trials for other services. Simon May has a session on Channel 9 about EMS trials: http://channel9.msdn.com/Series/EMS/Get-EMS-Trial-Accounts. I recommend anything the guys does - he's amazing. Hope this helps clear some of this up... I particularly like the OBTW caution around spinning up a training session and a given IP address! Sincerely, Ed Aldrich Mobile: (401) 924-2293 ed.aldr...@1e.commailto:ed.aldr...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [Description: Description: cid:image011.png@01CAD56A.EFDE3F90] Ent Cli Mgmt (2003-2014) From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marable, Mike Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 9:09 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? For me the biggest fear is access to the technology. Right now I have free and unlimited access to Configuration Manager. I can download the evaluation software and build as many labs as I need. Once I burn an Intune evaluation (and I haven't tried yet so fear of the unknown...) can I sign up for another eval using my same email of do will I need to set up throw away email accounts to sign up using? If in the future having access to Azure and Intune subscriptions is a requirement that will become a barrier to those of us who do not have access to it. It could become a world of the haves and the have nots. If you're a have not then you're unable to learn the technologies and quickly become obsolete. That is what worries me. Mike From: David O'Brien obrien.da...@outlook.commailto:obrien.da...@outlook.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 8:28 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What exactly is the scary bit here? (since I'm being quoted...) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Daniel Ratliffmailto:dratl...@humana.com Sent: 28/02/2015 6:53 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? A scary thought on Twitter this morning from Peter Egerton. https://twitter.com/david_obrien/status/571068420298420225 Host the #configmgrhttps://twitter.com/hashtag/configmgr?src=hash site on Azure / Cloud and just have a DP on site. Would that be a bad thing? Daniel Ratliff From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bernat Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? It's a fascinating topic. Here's a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.commailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
I love learning about what's new, and about features coming in future versions of the product. That is useful to me in planning for future projects, deciding whether I should hold off on an upgrade that would benefit from the new features, etc. That kind of stuff is a nice little bonus to take home from any conference. However, it's just a bonus, not the reason to attend. I go because I want to learn things that I can bring back from the conference and put to use right away. I want to learn how to get more out of the systems I already have and use. This year seems like an especially poor time for a very heavy focus on vNext, since it sounds like vNext is about a year away from GA. That seems like something I would expect from a marketing presentation, not a technical / educational conference. I plan to attend ignite, but I hope it doesn't turn out to be all forward looking content, without anything that I can actually use. Steve — Sent from Mailbox On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Michael Mott michael.m...@1e.com wrote: +1 there Mike, it seems to cost to play and learn now. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marable, Mike Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 9:09 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? For me the biggest fear is access to the technology. Right now I have free and unlimited access to Configuration Manager. I can download the evaluation software and build as many labs as I need. Once I burn an Intune evaluation (and I haven't tried yet so fear of the unknown...) can I sign up for another eval using my same email of do will I need to set up throw away email accounts to sign up using? If in the future having access to Azure and Intune subscriptions is a requirement that will become a barrier to those of us who do not have access to it. It could become a world of the haves and the have nots. If you're a have not then you're unable to learn the technologies and quickly become obsolete. That is what worries me. Mike From: David O'Brien obrien.da...@outlook.commailto:obrien.da...@outlook.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 8:28 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What exactly is the scary bit here? (since I'm being quoted...) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Daniel Ratliffmailto:dratl...@humana.com Sent: 28/02/2015 6:53 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? A scary thought on Twitter this morning from Peter Egerton. https://twitter.com/david_obrien/status/571068420298420225 Host the #configmgrhttps://twitter.com/hashtag/configmgr?src=hash site on Azure / Cloud and just have a DP on site. Would that be a bad thing? Daniel Ratliff From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bernat Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? It's a fascinating topic. Here's a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.commailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor... sorry the Cloud MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won't make the market people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
+1 there Mike, it seems to cost to play and learn now. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marable, Mike Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 9:09 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? For me the biggest fear is access to the technology. Right now I have free and unlimited access to Configuration Manager. I can download the evaluation software and build as many labs as I need. Once I burn an Intune evaluation (and I haven't tried yet so fear of the unknown...) can I sign up for another eval using my same email of do will I need to set up throw away email accounts to sign up using? If in the future having access to Azure and Intune subscriptions is a requirement that will become a barrier to those of us who do not have access to it. It could become a world of the haves and the have nots. If you're a have not then you're unable to learn the technologies and quickly become obsolete. That is what worries me. Mike From: David O'Brien obrien.da...@outlook.commailto:obrien.da...@outlook.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 8:28 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What exactly is the scary bit here? (since I'm being quoted...) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Daniel Ratliffmailto:dratl...@humana.com Sent: 28/02/2015 6:53 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? A scary thought on Twitter this morning from Peter Egerton. https://twitter.com/david_obrien/status/571068420298420225 Host the #configmgrhttps://twitter.com/hashtag/configmgr?src=hash site on Azure / Cloud and just have a DP on site. Would that be a bad thing? Daniel Ratliff From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bernat Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? It's a fascinating topic. Here's a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.commailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor... sorry the Cloud MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won't make the market people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol' slow moving software. It's not an easy game. MS will make most mistake's again with Intune as they did with ConfigMgr, because people are like that. Writing new code generates bugs, period, since developers are human. So it will be slower than they think, and when no new stuff comes to existing platform owners they will start not to renew Enterprise deals since there is a lack of roadmap, people will raise hell internally. And then God knows what will happen. So basically, Microsoft has to develop a kick-ass Intune with the same feature set that it took them 20 years to put into ConfigMgr + more. And this they have to do in a very short timeframe before losing new or existing customers. I think I recall that ConfigMgr 2012 was 9 million lines of code and the test tools had 4.5 million, so to finish in 5 years time they have to check in more than 12000 perfect lines of code each day. You do the math! :) Anyhow, my 2 cents after having 2Pints! So
Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
For me the biggest fear is access to the technology. Right now I have free and unlimited access to Configuration Manager. I can download the evaluation software and build as many labs as I need. Once I burn an Intune evaluation (and I haven’t tried yet so fear of the unknown…) can I sign up for another eval using my same email of do will I need to set up throw away email accounts to sign up using? If in the future having access to Azure and Intune subscriptions is a requirement that will become a barrier to those of us who do not have access to it. It could become a world of the “haves” and the “have nots”. If you’re a “have not” then you’re unable to learn the technologies and quickly become obsolete. That is what worries me. Mike From: David O'Brien obrien.da...@outlook.commailto:obrien.da...@outlook.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 8:28 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What exactly is the scary bit here? (since I'm being quoted...) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Daniel Ratliffmailto:dratl...@humana.com Sent: 28/02/2015 6:53 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? A scary thought on Twitter this morning from Peter Egerton. https://twitter.com/david_obrien/status/571068420298420225 Host the #configmgrhttps://twitter.com/hashtag/configmgr?src=hash site on Azure / Cloud and just have a DP on site. Would that be a bad thing? Daniel Ratliff From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bernat Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.commailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol’ “slow moving software”. It’s not an easy game. MS will make most mistake’s again with Intune as they did with ConfigMgr, because people are like that. Writing new code generates bugs, period, since developers are human. So it will be slower than they think, and when no new stuff comes to existing platform owners they will start not to renew Enterprise deals since there is a lack of roadmap, people will raise hell internally. And then God knows what will happen. So basically, Microsoft has to develop a kick-ass Intune with the same feature set that it took them 20 years to put into ConfigMgr + more. And this they have to do in a very short timeframe before losing new or existing customers. I think I recall that ConfigMgr 2012 was 9 million lines of code and the test tools had 4.5 million, so to finish in 5 years time they have to check in more than 12000 perfect lines of code each day. You do the math! :) Anyhow, my 2 cents after having 2Pints! So conditions do apply, now off to pester mr Arwidmark and Mikael Nyström on Twitter! //A From:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ed Aldrich Sent: den 27 februari 2015 19:28 To: mssms
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
I know both companies - believe me, they will adapt. The whole reason they exist is because they can! The cloud is what you make it - use what you can, discard the rest. If I could manage and/or monitor everything and not have to rely on local infrastructure resources, while maintaining the same level of security/support/cost - well, that's an easy answer. In the real world you often have to choose 2 out of the 3 :) Honestly, as time marches on, I suspect it will make a lot more sense to a lot more companies. Especially as the workforce moves away from the traditional connected workstation we all know and love. Then consider the gains you have in BC/BUR, load balancing, etc... Most of this boils down to cost, though - the cloud is expensive, and does this make financial sense for your company? The cloud is not evil, it's fire. Good or bad, use it how you will. Back on topic - I went to 10+ years of MMS - dropped more beers than I recall. I have no need or want to go to Ignite. I would rather brave the Great White North (tm) in winter to attend a real MMS than hit a conference that isn't offering what I want. Between SCU, the new MMS, and DevConnections, I don't see a need for anything else - they all rock. Add in things like local user groups, Channel 9, and of course the old forums, what else do you need? From: dratl...@humana.com To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com; mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 02:02:36 + For me, the shift in mindset as a ConfigMgr admin to managing from the cloud. Larger focus on network and security that I really don't have to think about today. I wonder how vendors like 1e and Adaptiva will adapt in a cloud first future. It's change and change can always be a little scary and exciting. -Original Message- From: David O'Brien [obrien.da...@outlook.com] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 08:31 PM Eastern Standard Time To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What exactly is the scary bit here? (since I'm being quoted...) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Daniel Ratliff Sent: 28/02/2015 6:53 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? A scary thought on Twitter this morning from Peter Egerton. https://twitter.com/david_obrien/status/571068420298420225 Host the #configmgr site on Azure / Cloud and just have a DP on site. Would that be a bad thing? Daniel Ratliff From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bernat Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol’ “slow moving software”. It’s not an easy game. MS will make most mistake’s again with Intune as they did with ConfigMgr, because people are like that. Writing new code generates bugs, period, since developers are human. So it will be slower than they think, and when no new stuff comes to existing platform owners they will start not to renew Enterprise deals since there is a lack of roadmap, people will raise hell internally. And then God knows what will happen. So basically, Microsoft has to develop a kick-ass Intune with the same feature set that it took them 20 years to put into ConfigMgr + more. And this they have to do in a very short timeframe before losing
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
For me, the shift in mindset as a ConfigMgr admin to managing from the cloud. Larger focus on network and security that I really don't have to think about today. I wonder how vendors like 1e and Adaptiva will adapt in a cloud first future. It's change and change can always be a little scary and exciting. -Original Message- From: David O'Brien [obrien.da...@outlook.commailto:obrien.da...@outlook.com] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 08:31 PM Eastern Standard Time To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What exactly is the scary bit here? (since I'm being quoted...) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Daniel Ratliffmailto:dratl...@humana.com Sent: 28/02/2015 6:53 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? A scary thought on Twitter this morning from Peter Egerton. https://twitter.com/david_obrien/status/571068420298420225 Host the #configmgrhttps://twitter.com/hashtag/configmgr?src=hash site on Azure / Cloud and just have a DP on site. Would that be a bad thing? Daniel Ratliff From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bernat Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.commailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol’ “slow moving software”. It’s not an easy game. MS will make most mistake’s again with Intune as they did with ConfigMgr, because people are like that. Writing new code generates bugs, period, since developers are human. So it will be slower than they think, and when no new stuff comes to existing platform owners they will start not to renew Enterprise deals since there is a lack of roadmap, people will raise hell internally. And then God knows what will happen. So basically, Microsoft has to develop a kick-ass Intune with the same feature set that it took them 20 years to put into ConfigMgr + more. And this they have to do in a very short timeframe before losing new or existing customers. I think I recall that ConfigMgr 2012 was 9 million lines of code and the test tools had 4.5 million, so to finish in 5 years time they have to check in more than 12000 perfect lines of code each day. You do the math! ☺ Anyhow, my 2 cents after having 2Pints! So conditions do apply, now off to pester mr Arwidmark and Mikael Nyström on Twitter! //A From:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ed Aldrich Sent: den 27 februari 2015 19:28 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? “I'm trying to interpret these marketing and materials changes to understand what MS will be pushing in the years to come. “ As far as us in the CfgMgr world are concerned, rest assured that the future holds cloud enabled management... Current initiatives around Intune show that clearly... while it still has a way to go before its prime-time ready, it is the future toss in a more homogenous AppStore story across platforms and their respective devices, and the picture begins to become clear. Jeff Gilbert’s recently published (co-authored) book Enterprise
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
“I'm trying to interpret these marketing and materials changes to understand what MS will be pushing in the years to come. “ As far as us in the CfgMgr world are concerned, rest assured that the future holds cloud enabled management... Current initiatives around Intune show that clearly... while it still has a way to go before its prime-time ready, it is the future toss in a more homogenous AppStore story across platforms and their respective devices, and the picture begins to become clear. Jeff Gilbert’s recently published (co-authored) book Enterprise Mobility Suite Managing BYOD and Company-Owned Deviceshttp://www.amazon.com/Enterprise-Mobility-Managing-Company-Owned-Devices/dp/0735698406/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1425061383sr=1-1keywords=jeff+gilbert is a great place to start learning, along with any number of Microsoft blogs that focus on Intune. Ed Aldrich Mobile: (401) 924-2293 ed.aldr...@1e.commailto:ed.aldr...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [Description: Description: cid:image011.png@01CAD56A.EFDE3F90] Ent Cli Mgmt (2003-2014) From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Owen Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:34 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Guys, let's not bash these conference bags. Some of us look forward to them very much (I don't have one yet :( )! I've also got to say based on what I've seen from the Channel 9 / TechEd videos. There was some seriously great and juicy stuff from previous TechEd's, some of which helped shape my SCCM knowledge (Niehaus, your's from TechEd were AWESOME!). You can really see a decline in that content volume recently. I think everyone has said it already, there is a lot that MS is transitioning too. I'm trying to interpret these marketing and materials changes to understand what MS will be pushing in the years to come. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Michael Niehaus michael.nieh...@microsoft.commailto:michael.nieh...@microsoft.com wrote: My personal opinion, not Microsoft’s ☺ I agree very much with the highlighted parts below. But just because it’s a forward-looking event focused on roadmap and where everything is going, that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a community aspect. Just expect the community aspect to be more like The Krewe (probably 90% social/networking) than like MyITForum (probably 70% technical conversation/how-to, 30% social/networking). Where I tend to disagree with people is in regards to the bashing of Ignite/TechEd/other large Microsoft events. Ignite has its place, and for those that focus on what’s next, it should be considered essential – at least acknowledge that. And that’s not for everyone. For those that live in the here-and-now, well, then maybe you should consider events that focus more on the here-and-now: training on current versions, troubleshooting and notes-from-the-field with live releases, compare notes with like-minded (and similarly challenged) individuals, etc. (For those of you running those events, please focus on the position: Market your events based on their strengths, not by comparing yourself to Ignite.) I’ve been campaigning for more ConfigMgr sessions too, but even if these come I wouldn’t expect them to spend much time on existing releases, except to talk about how they are changing, how you can upgrade, new features/roadmap, etc. If you really want to know how to better use the ConfigMgr app model that hasn’t changed much since 2012, or how to best deploy OS updates to Windows 7, well, we’ve got session recordings on Channel 9 that already cover that ☺ When I was in enterprise IT (granted, that was over 11 years ago now), I considered TechEd to be the one must-attend conference each year. That reflected what I did: I was an enterprise infrastructure and desktop architect, responsible for a variety of Microsoft-related technologies, and it was the only place where I could find out where I needed to be heading (for my company) in the coming year. Ignite continues in that tradition. Thanks, -Michael From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:04 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? You really are trying to goad me onto my soapbox, aren’t you? The problem is highlighted in your text below. Fix that and we may be able to find our way back to a technical event that this group wants to attend. ☺ I’ll make this brief. We worked extremely hard for MMS each year to ensure there was enough technical content, despite it being run by marketing. That effort was a LOT of work that a lot of people don’t realize. In 2013, just prior to TechEd 2014, we lost our advocates and those
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol’ “slow moving software”. It’s not an easy game. MS will make most mistake’s again with Intune as they did with ConfigMgr, because people are like that. Writing new code generates bugs, period, since developers are human. So it will be slower than they think, and when no new stuff comes to existing platform owners they will start not to renew Enterprise deals since there is a lack of roadmap, people will raise hell internally. And then God knows what will happen. So basically, Microsoft has to develop a kick-ass Intune with the same feature set that it took them 20 years to put into ConfigMgr + more. And this they have to do in a very short timeframe before losing new or existing customers. I think I recall that ConfigMgr 2012 was 9 million lines of code and the test tools had 4.5 million, so to finish in 5 years time they have to check in more than 12000 perfect lines of code each day. You do the math! ☺ Anyhow, my 2 cents after having 2Pints! So conditions do apply, now off to pester mr Arwidmark and Mikael Nyström on Twitter! //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ed Aldrich Sent: den 27 februari 2015 19:28 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? “I'm trying to interpret these marketing and materials changes to understand what MS will be pushing in the years to come. “ As far as us in the CfgMgr world are concerned, rest assured that the future holds cloud enabled management... Current initiatives around Intune show that clearly... while it still has a way to go before its prime-time ready, it is the future toss in a more homogenous AppStore story across platforms and their respective devices, and the picture begins to become clear. Jeff Gilbert’s recently published (co-authored) book Enterprise Mobility Suite Managing BYOD and Company-Owned Deviceshttp://www.amazon.com/Enterprise-Mobility-Managing-Company-Owned-Devices/dp/0735698406/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1425061383sr=1-1keywords=jeff+gilbert is a great place to start learning, along with any number of Microsoft blogs that focus on Intune. Ed Aldrich Mobile: (401) 924-2293 ed.aldr...@1e.commailto:ed.aldr...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [Description: Description: cid:image011.png@01CAD56A.EFDE3F90] Ent Cli Mgmt (2003-2014) From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Owen Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:34 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Guys, let's not bash these conference bags. Some of us look forward to them very much (I don't have one yet :( )! I've also got to say based on what I've seen from the Channel 9 / TechEd videos. There was some seriously great and juicy stuff from previous TechEd's, some of which helped shape my SCCM knowledge (Niehaus, your's from TechEd were AWESOME!). You can really see a decline in that content volume recently. I think everyone has said it already, there is a lot that MS is transitioning too. I'm trying to interpret these marketing and materials changes to understand what MS will be pushing in the years to come. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Michael Niehaus michael.nieh...@microsoft.commailto:michael.nieh...@microsoft.com wrote: My personal opinion, not Microsoft’s ☺ I agree very much with the highlighted parts below. But just because it’s a forward-looking event focused on roadmap and where everything is going, that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a community aspect. Just expect the community aspect to be more like The Krewe (probably 90% social/networking) than like MyITForum (probably 70% technical conversation/how-to, 30% social/networking). Where I tend to disagree with people is in regards to the bashing of Ignite/TechEd/other large
Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
Guys, let's not bash these conference bags. Some of us look forward to them very much (I don't have one yet :( )! I've also got to say based on what I've seen from the Channel 9 / TechEd videos. There was some seriously great and juicy stuff from previous TechEd's, some of which helped shape my SCCM knowledge (Niehaus, your's from TechEd were AWESOME!). You can really see a decline in that content volume recently. I think everyone has said it already, there is a lot that MS is transitioning too. I'm trying to interpret these marketing and materials changes to understand what MS will be pushing in the years to come. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Michael Niehaus michael.nieh...@microsoft.com wrote: My personal opinion, not Microsoft’s J I agree very much with the highlighted parts below. But just because it’s a forward-looking event focused on roadmap and where everything is going, that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a community aspect. Just expect the community aspect to be more like The Krewe (probably 90% social/networking) than like MyITForum (probably 70% technical conversation/how-to, 30% social/networking). Where I tend to disagree with people is in regards to the bashing of Ignite/TechEd/other large Microsoft events. Ignite has its place, and for those that focus on what’s next, it should be considered essential – at least acknowledge that. And that’s not for everyone. For those that live in the here-and-now, well, then maybe you should consider events that focus more on the here-and-now: training on current versions, troubleshooting and notes-from-the-field with live releases, compare notes with like-minded (and similarly challenged) individuals, etc. (For those of you running those events, please focus on the position: Market your events based on their strengths, not by comparing yourself to Ignite.) I’ve been campaigning for more ConfigMgr sessions too, but even if these come I wouldn’t expect them to spend much time on existing releases, except to talk about how they are changing, how you can upgrade, new features/roadmap, etc. If you really want to know how to better use the ConfigMgr app model that hasn’t changed much since 2012, or how to best deploy OS updates to Windows 7, well, we’ve got session recordings on Channel 9 that already cover that J When I was in enterprise IT (granted, that was over 11 years ago now), I considered TechEd to be the one must-attend conference each year. That reflected what I did: I was an enterprise infrastructure and desktop architect, responsible for a variety of Microsoft-related technologies, and it was the only place where I could find out where I needed to be heading (for my company) in the coming year. Ignite continues in that tradition. Thanks, -Michael *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Rod Trent *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:04 PM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? You really are trying to goad me onto my soapbox, aren’t you? The problem is highlighted in your text below. Fix that and we may be able to find our way back to a technical event that this group wants to attend. J I’ll make this brief. We worked extremely hard for MMS each year to ensure there was enough technical content, despite it being run by marketing. That effort was a LOT of work that a lot of people don’t realize. In 2013, just prior to TechEd 2014, we lost our advocates and those left refused to listen. Result: TechEd 2014 for MMS folks was a joke. New year, brand new event – marketing still making the decisions, and we have a total of 5 events rolled into one. Ignite will be bigger and the focus is clearly on roadmap. That doesn’t hold much hope for those whose bosses demand a certain level of technical value. And, for this community, with a smattering of ConfigMgr sessions coming, they can get the same value just by gathering teams members around a desk and streaming the keynotes in the office. There’s very little hope to turn Ignite into a ConfigMgr or on-premises management heavy event no matter how much feedback is given. That’s simply not Microsoft’s focus and direction. However, that all said, it’s not all doom and gloom for me. I’m looking forward to it (mostly out of curiosity) and Ignite better represents my focus these days. But, then again, I’m not dealing with the technical issues that this community is day-in and day-out. That’s where smaller, more intimate events like the new MMS provide such a great opportunity for specific groups of people. In my opinion, Microsoft should just produce the best event it can in Ignite. Make it Microsoft’s VMWorld – because really that’s the intent: one message to the biggest crowd possible. But, give up trying to appease the communities. Instead, invest time, resources
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I was there for the actual keynote. There's a bit of semantics going on. Workloads for the foreseeable future can mean a number of things, and there's been a LOT of activity in the background since that keynote. The core message is that Microsoft intends to support customers - not products. Microsoft understands that customers are inherently slow to adopt new products that require massive migrations. There are customers still running CM 2007, even SMS 2003. So, when it's said that CM will be supported for the foreseeable future, it means as long as customers are still running it. Focus is on Intune right now, and has been for a long while. CM may see some improvements, but only in areas where it makes sense to the Microsoft vision. Don't expect major new features. For example, one of the bigger features we'll see in the Fall for CM 2012 R2 is better integration with Intune. App and OS delivery are the only real pieces of CM that can't be Cloud-based right now, but that change is coming. Microsoft will attempt to make Windows 10 the compelling reason for customers to move to Intune with changes in how apps and the OS delivers. From: 'Bill Bernat' Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: SMS It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol’ “slow moving software”. It’s not an easy game. MS will make most mistake’s again with Intune as they did with ConfigMgr, because people are like that. Writing new code generates bugs, period, since developers are human. So it will be slower than they think, and when no new stuff comes to existing platform owners they will start not to renew Enterprise deals since there is a lack of roadmap, people will raise hell internally. And then God knows what will happen. So basically, Microsoft has to develop a kick-ass Intune with the same feature set that it took them 20 years to put into ConfigMgr + more. And this they have to do in a very short timeframe before losing new or existing customers. I think I recall that ConfigMgr 2012 was 9 million lines of code and the test tools had 4.5 million, so to finish in 5 years time they have to check in more than 12000 perfect lines of code each day. You do the math! J Anyhow, my 2 cents after having 2Pints! So conditions do apply, now off to pester mr Arwidmark and Mikael Nyström on Twitter! //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ed Aldrich Sent: den 27 februari 2015 19:28 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? “I'm trying to interpret these marketing and materials changes to understand what MS will be pushing in the years to come. “ As far as us in the CfgMgr world are concerned, rest assured that the future holds cloud enabled management... Current initiatives around Intune show that clearly... while it still has a way to go before its prime-time ready, it is the future toss in a more homogenous AppStore story across platforms and their respective devices, and the picture begins to become clear. Jeff Gilbert’s recently published (co-authored) book Enterprise Mobility Suite Managing BYOD and Company-Owned Devices is a great place to start learning, along with any number of Microsoft blogs that focus on Intune. Ed Aldrich Mobile: (401) 924-2293 ed.aldr...@1e.com| www.1e.com Description: Description: cid:image011.png@01CAD56A.EFDE3F90 Ent Cli Mgmt (2003-2014) From:listsad
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What exactly is the scary bit here? (since I'm being quoted...) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Daniel Ratliffmailto:dratl...@humana.com Sent: 28/02/2015 6:53 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? A scary thought on Twitter this morning from Peter Egerton. https://twitter.com/david_obrien/status/571068420298420225 Host the #configmgrhttps://twitter.com/hashtag/configmgr?src=hash site on Azure / Cloud and just have a DP on site. Would that be a bad thing? Daniel Ratliff From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bernat Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? It’s a fascinating topic. Here’s a recent take from Brad Anderson: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2015/02/23/system-center-configuration-manager-future.aspx. -billb From: Andreas Hammarskjöld jun...@2pintsoftware.commailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com Reply-To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But also remember what wise men say: “One does not just migrate 20 years of code in to Mordor… sorry the Cloud” MS focuses primarily on the Cloud right now, but we all know were few people actually use it. Does Intune even cover 1% of the ConfigMgr install base? And I am not talking purchased or licensed, I am talking about deployed. So MS faces the options to put in a few years to make Intune better with zero new stuff in ConfigMgr, which will make existing customer base angry, making future sells harder. Alternative is to do a split where some like 70% goes towards the Cloud and 30% to keep customer happy enough. But that won’t make the “market” people as they want a good story and strong figures on cloud and market share in that. The lack of ConfigMgr sessions at these events since there are very few new features, i.e. not so much dev time for our friend ConfigMgr. In my previous role at my old company I was in exactly the same spot as MS. I had to develop new things for the cloud, and still maintain good ol’ “slow moving software”. It’s not an easy game. MS will make most mistake’s again with Intune as they did with ConfigMgr, because people are like that. Writing new code generates bugs, period, since developers are human. So it will be slower than they think, and when no new stuff comes to existing platform owners they will start not to renew Enterprise deals since there is a lack of roadmap, people will raise hell internally. And then God knows what will happen. So basically, Microsoft has to develop a kick-ass Intune with the same feature set that it took them 20 years to put into ConfigMgr + more. And this they have to do in a very short timeframe before losing new or existing customers. I think I recall that ConfigMgr 2012 was 9 million lines of code and the test tools had 4.5 million, so to finish in 5 years time they have to check in more than 12000 perfect lines of code each day. You do the math! ☺ Anyhow, my 2 cents after having 2Pints! So conditions do apply, now off to pester mr Arwidmark and Mikael Nyström on Twitter! //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ed Aldrich Sent: den 27 februari 2015 19:28 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? “I'm trying to interpret these marketing and materials changes to understand what MS will be pushing in the years to come. “ As far as us in the CfgMgr world are concerned, rest assured that the future holds cloud enabled management... Current initiatives around Intune show that clearly... while it still has a way to go before its prime-time ready, it is the future toss in a more homogenous AppStore story across platforms and their respective devices, and the picture begins to become clear. Jeff Gilbert’s recently published (co-authored) book Enterprise Mobility Suite Managing BYOD and Company-Owned Deviceshttp://www.amazon.com/Enterprise-Mobility-Managing-Company-Owned-Devices/dp/0735698406/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1425061383sr=1-1keywords=jeff+gilbert is a great place to start learning, along with any number of Microsoft blogs that focus on Intune. Ed Aldrich Mobile: (401) 924-2293 ed.aldr...@1e.commailto:ed.aldr...@1e.com| www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [Description: Description: cid:image011.png@01CAD56A.EFDE3F90] Ent Cli Mgmt (2003-2014) From:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad
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Oh, wow Minnesota in November? I don't think I have enough clothes... From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Poling Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:20 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? MMS now refers to this: http://mms.mnscug.org/ Jeff From: joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.govmailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:14:43 + But Didn't MMS get swallowed up by TechEd? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wilcock Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:08 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? That may be true - but even the ConfigMgr sessions that have been announced are 99% level 300 or lower, so not much in depth. And it's February! - Ignite is in May and they still haven't firmed up the sessions? I don't think so.. If you're planning to attend conferences as part of your training most folks need to know well in advance what's on so that they can get authorization and book hotels etc. or consider other conferences Just go to MMS :) Phil From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: 19 February 2015 16:44 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We don't see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified to: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email or calling +44(0) 2083269015 (UK) or +1 866 592 4214 (USA). This email and any attachments may be privileged and/or confidential. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or printing of any information
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Well said. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:04 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? You really are trying to goad me onto my soapbox, aren’t you? The problem is highlighted in your text below. Fix that and we may be able to find our way back to a technical event that this group wants to attend. ☺ I’ll make this brief. We worked extremely hard for MMS each year to ensure there was enough technical content, despite it being run by marketing. That effort was a LOT of work that a lot of people don’t realize. In 2013, just prior to TechEd 2014, we lost our advocates and those left refused to listen. Result: TechEd 2014 for MMS folks was a joke. New year, brand new event – marketing still making the decisions, and we have a total of 5 events rolled into one. Ignite will be bigger and the focus is clearly on roadmap. That doesn’t hold much hope for those whose bosses demand a certain level of technical value. And, for this community, with a smattering of ConfigMgr sessions coming, they can get the same value just by gathering teams members around a desk and streaming the keynotes in the office. There’s very little hope to turn Ignite into a ConfigMgr or on-premises management heavy event no matter how much feedback is given. That’s simply not Microsoft’s focus and direction. However, that all said, it’s not all doom and gloom for me. I’m looking forward to it (mostly out of curiosity) and Ignite better represents my focus these days. But, then again, I’m not dealing with the technical issues that this community is day-in and day-out. That’s where smaller, more intimate events like the new MMS provide such a great opportunity for specific groups of people. In my opinion, Microsoft should just produce the best event it can in Ignite. Make it Microsoft’s VMWorld – because really that’s the intent: one message to the biggest crowd possible. But, give up trying to appease the communities. Instead, invest time, resources, and marketing dollars in community led events. Go where the communities are – don’t expect to be able to force them to come to you. That makes it less stressful for everyone. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Czechowski Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:26 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What a coincidence, we were just talking about “slow moving software” in this morning’s Shiproom…. To reiterate Michael’s comments, our marketing team is working on this, even talking with BradAnd, and as I hear have until 2/27 to publish. The list I’ve seen so far includes three additional sessions specific to ConfigMgr – and we’re doing what we can to get more added. At least one of those will be 300+ level (I’m the content owner – unfortunately just don’t know yet whether I’ll be presenting it…). Honestly, this is all awesome feedback. I’ve shared some of your comments verbatim with marketing and leadership so that they understand your frustrations. I definitely can’t promise that will change anything in the next several months, but I hope helps inform strategy decisions in the future. And please don’t let this put any damper on the discussion – it’s why I’ve been on this list for so many years. ☺ Aaron From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Sherry Kissinger Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:03 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Nash, don't be dissin' SMS er... SCCM er... ConfigMgr er... oh, what's your name today? On Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:56 PM, Nash Pherson na...@nowmicro.commailto:na...@nowmicro.com wrote: ConfigMgr is being renamed “exasperating and sometimes downright obnoxious”? Microsoft EaSDO: For all your systems management needs. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Product name just hasn’t changed yet. ☺ If you want a more accurate name, look at what Microsoft calls the MVPs in that area. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Eric Groff Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:39 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What's in a name? Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager Sent from my Windows
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But Didn't MMS get swallowed up by TechEd? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wilcock Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:08 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? That may be true - but even the ConfigMgr sessions that have been announced are 99% level 300 or lower, so not much in depth. And it's February! - Ignite is in May and they still haven't firmed up the sessions? I don't think so.. If you're planning to attend conferences as part of your training most folks need to know well in advance what's on so that they can get authorization and book hotels etc. or consider other conferences Just go to MMS :) Phil From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: 19 February 2015 16:44 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We don't see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified to: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email or calling +44(0) 2083269015 (UK) or +1 866 592 4214 (USA). This email and any attachments may be privileged and/or confidential. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or printing of any information it contains is strictly prohibited. The opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of 1E Ltd. Nothing in this email will operate to bind 1E to any order or other contract.
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What a coincidence, we were just talking about “slow moving software” in this morning’s Shiproom…. To reiterate Michael’s comments, our marketing team is working on this, even talking with BradAnd, and as I hear have until 2/27 to publish. The list I’ve seen so far includes three additional sessions specific to ConfigMgr – and we’re doing what we can to get more added. At least one of those will be 300+ level (I’m the content owner – unfortunately just don’t know yet whether I’ll be presenting it…). Honestly, this is all awesome feedback. I’ve shared some of your comments verbatim with marketing and leadership so that they understand your frustrations. I definitely can’t promise that will change anything in the next several months, but I hope helps inform strategy decisions in the future. And please don’t let this put any damper on the discussion – it’s why I’ve been on this list for so many years. ☺ Aaron From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Sherry Kissinger Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:03 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Nash, don't be dissin' SMS er... SCCM er... ConfigMgr er... oh, what's your name today? On Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:56 PM, Nash Pherson na...@nowmicro.com wrote: ConfigMgr is being renamed “exasperating and sometimes downright obnoxious”? Microsoft EaSDO: For all your systems management needs. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Product name just hasn’t changed yet. ☺ If you want a more accurate name, look at what Microsoft calls the MVPs in that area. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Eric Groff Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:39 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What's in a name? Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager Sent from my Windows Phone From: Rod Trentmailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: 2/19/2015 12:13 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? More will be added for System Center and Server. That much is true. However, when I was told that, I was also told that Configuration Manager is not really considered to be part of System Center any longer. So, don’t expect many more ConfigMgr sessions to post. There’s clear reasons behind this. Also consider that Ignite now uses a sort of aged “editorial calendar” method for sessions. Microsoft has the decks with the proper messaging, and then the Ignite teams will source the speakers they believe fit the decks best. I’ll leave it at that. I almost, *almost*, went off on a soapbox tangent for both preceding paragraphs. But, you all are smart enough to figure it out. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
Yes it did and the content at TechEd was very thin ... From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:15 PM To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? But Didn't MMS get swallowed up by TechEd? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wilcock Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:08 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? That may be true - but even the ConfigMgr sessions that have been announced are 99% level 300 or lower, so not much in depth. And it's February! - Ignite is in May and they still haven't firmed up the sessions? I don't think so.. If you're planning to attend conferences as part of your training most folks need to know well in advance what's on so that they can get authorization and book hotels etc. or consider other conferences Just go to MMS :) Phil From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: 19 February 2015 16:44 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We don't see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified to: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email or calling +44(0) 2083269015 (UK) or +1 866 592 4214 (USA). This email and any attachments may be privileged and/or confidential. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or printing of any information it contains is strictly prohibited. The opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of 1E Ltd. Nothing in this email will operate to bind 1E to any order or other contract.
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
You really are trying to goad me onto my soapbox, aren’t you? The problem is highlighted in your text below. Fix that and we may be able to find our way back to a technical event that this group wants to attend. :) I’ll make this brief. We worked extremely hard for MMS each year to ensure there was enough technical content, despite it being run by marketing. That effort was a LOT of work that a lot of people don’t realize. In 2013, just prior to TechEd 2014, we lost our advocates and those left refused to listen. Result: TechEd 2014 for MMS folks was a joke. New year, brand new event – marketing still making the decisions, and we have a total of 5 events rolled into one. Ignite will be bigger and the focus is clearly on roadmap. That doesn’t hold much hope for those whose bosses demand a certain level of technical value. And, for this community, with a smattering of ConfigMgr sessions coming, they can get the same value just by gathering teams members around a desk and streaming the keynotes in the office. There’s very little hope to turn Ignite into a ConfigMgr or on-premises management heavy event no matter how much feedback is given. That’s simply not Microsoft’s focus and direction. However, that all said, it’s not all doom and gloom for me. I’m looking forward to it (mostly out of curiosity) and Ignite better represents my focus these days. But, then again, I’m not dealing with the technical issues that this community is day-in and day-out. That’s where smaller, more intimate events like the new MMS provide such a great opportunity for specific groups of people. In my opinion, Microsoft should just produce the best event it can in Ignite. Make it Microsoft’s VMWorld – because really that’s the intent: one message to the biggest crowd possible. But, give up trying to appease the communities. Instead, invest time, resources, and marketing dollars in community led events. Go where the communities are – don’t expect to be able to force them to come to you. That makes it less stressful for everyone. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Czechowski Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:26 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What a coincidence, we were just talking about “slow moving software” in this morning’s Shiproom…. To reiterate Michael’s comments, our marketing team is working on this, even talking with BradAnd, and as I hear have until 2/27 to publish. The list I’ve seen so far includes three additional sessions specific to ConfigMgr – and we’re doing what we can to get more added. At least one of those will be 300+ level (I’m the content owner – unfortunately just don’t know yet whether I’ll be presenting it…). Honestly, this is all awesome feedback. I’ve shared some of your comments verbatim with marketing and leadership so that they understand your frustrations. I definitely can’t promise that will change anything in the next several months, but I hope helps inform strategy decisions in the future. And please don’t let this put any damper on the discussion – it’s why I’ve been on this list for so many years. :) Aaron From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Sherry Kissinger Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:03 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Nash, don't be dissin' SMS er... SCCM er... ConfigMgr er... oh, what's your name today? On Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:56 PM, Nash Pherson na...@nowmicro.com mailto:na...@nowmicro.com wrote: ConfigMgr is being renamed “exasperating and sometimes downright obnoxious”? Microsoft EaSDO: For all your systems management needs. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Product name just hasn’t changed yet. :) If you want a more accurate name, look at what Microsoft calls the MVPs in that area. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Eric Groff Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:39 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What's in a name? Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager Sent from my Windows Phone From: Rod Trent mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: 2/19/2015 12:13 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? More
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MMS now refers to this: http://mms.mnscug.org/ Jeff From: joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:14:43 + But…. Didn’t MMS get swallowed up by TechEd? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wilcock Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:08 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? That may be true – but even the ConfigMgr sessions that have been announced are 99% level 300 or lower, so not much in depth. And it’s February! – Ignite is in May and they still haven’t firmed up the sessions? I don’t think so.. If you’re planning to attend conferences as part of your training most folks need to know well in advance what’s on so that they can get authorization and book hotels etc. or consider other conferences Just go to MMS J Phil From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: 19 February 2015 16:44 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks J Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.com From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We don’t see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified to: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email or calling +44(0) 2083269015 (UK) or +1 866 592 4214 (USA). This email and any attachments may be privileged and/or confidential. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or printing of any information it contains is strictly prohibited. The opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of 1E Ltd. Nothing in this email will operate to bind 1E to any order or other contract.
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
It honestly wasn't that bad at all. I was a late registrant and so wasn't at the venue hotel. I had to walk all of a quarter mile outside to my hotel. NBD. -Phil From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:13 PM To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Oh, wow Minnesota in November? I don't think I have enough clothes... From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Poling Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:20 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? MMS now refers to this: http://mms.mnscug.org/ Jeff From: joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.govmailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:14:43 + But Didn't MMS get swallowed up by TechEd? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wilcock Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:08 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? That may be true - but even the ConfigMgr sessions that have been announced are 99% level 300 or lower, so not much in depth. And it's February! - Ignite is in May and they still haven't firmed up the sessions? I don't think so.. If you're planning to attend conferences as part of your training most folks need to know well in advance what's on so that they can get authorization and book hotels etc. or consider other conferences Just go to MMS :) Phil From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: 19 February 2015 16:44 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We don't see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified to: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
I was lucky enough to be in the Raddison Blu. Didn't go outside for 4 days, was perfect, you could wear shorts! Daniel Ratliff From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Schwan, Phil Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:31 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? It honestly wasn't that bad at all. I was a late registrant and so wasn't at the venue hotel. I had to walk all of a quarter mile outside to my hotel. NBD. -Phil From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:13 PM To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Oh, wow Minnesota in November? I don't think I have enough clothes... From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Poling Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:20 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? MMS now refers to this: http://mms.mnscug.org/ Jeff From: joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.govmailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:14:43 + But Didn't MMS get swallowed up by TechEd? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wilcock Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:08 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? That may be true - but even the ConfigMgr sessions that have been announced are 99% level 300 or lower, so not much in depth. And it's February! - Ignite is in May and they still haven't firmed up the sessions? I don't think so.. If you're planning to attend conferences as part of your training most folks need to know well in advance what's on so that they can get authorization and book hotels etc. or consider other conferences Just go to MMS :) Phil From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: 19 February 2015 16:44 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We don't see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
More will be added for System Center and Server. That much is true. However, when I was told that, I was also told that Configuration Manager is not really considered to be part of System Center any longer. So, dont expect many more ConfigMgr sessions to post. Theres clear reasons behind this. Also consider that Ignite now uses a sort of aged editorial calendar method for sessions. Microsoft has the decks with the proper messaging, and then the Ignite teams will source the speakers they believe fit the decks best. Ill leave it at that. I almost, *almost*, went off on a soapbox tangent for both preceding paragraphs. But, you all are smart enough to figure it out. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 mailto:troy.mar...@1e.com troy.mar...@1e.com | http://www.1e.com/ www.1e.com http://www.1e.com/http://ignite.microsoft.com/ https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal https://twitter.com/1E_Global/ http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php http://blogs.1e.com/feed/ https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 mailto:troy.mar...@1e.com troy.mar...@1e.com | http://www.1e.com/ www.1e.com http://www.1e.com/http://ignite.microsoft.com/ https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal https://twitter.com/1E_Global/ http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php http://blogs.1e.com/feed/ https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We dont see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld _ NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified to: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. _ Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email or calling +44(0) 2083269015 (UK) or +1 866 592 4214 (USA). This email and any attachments may be privileged and/or confidential. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or printing of any information it contains is strictly prohibited. The opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of 1E Ltd. Nothing in this email
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I have to second that. My request was turned down because I couldn't show any value in going. The promise/hope of adding more System Center sessions didn't justify the cost so the request was denied. Unfortunately at this point it's too late. I wish the final session catalog had been completed long ago. If I could have shown management something concrete like the sessions I wanted to attend and how they would benefit the team it might have been different. Mike From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wilcock Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:08 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? That may be true - but even the ConfigMgr sessions that have been announced are 99% level 300 or lower, so not much in depth. And it's February! - Ignite is in May and they still haven't firmed up the sessions? I don't think so.. If you're planning to attend conferences as part of your training most folks need to know well in advance what's on so that they can get authorization and book hotels etc. or consider other conferences Just go to MMS :) Phil From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: 19 February 2015 16:44 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We don't see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified to: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email or calling +44(0) 2083269015 (UK) or +1 866 592 4214 (USA). This email and any attachments may be privileged and/or confidential. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or printing of any information it contains is strictly prohibited. The opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of 1E Ltd. Nothing in this email will operate to bind 1E to any order or other contract. ** Electronic Mail is not secure, may
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
Highly recommended viewing. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:23 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? If you havent seen http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Future-Decoded-Tech-Day-2014/TechDays-Online -2015/Microsoft-Corporate-Keynote-and-Interview-Jeffrey-Snover yet, it gives you some hints of whats coming for Windows Server. They have an interesting challenge with sessions related to this as they would give away things that havent been made public yet. But be prepared for plenty of whoa moments, from a former server/data center guy :) Thanks, -Michael From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:11 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? More will be added for System Center and Server. That much is true. However, when I was told that, I was also told that Configuration Manager is not really considered to be part of System Center any longer. So, dont expect many more ConfigMgr sessions to post. Theres clear reasons behind this. Also consider that Ignite now uses a sort of aged editorial calendar method for sessions. Microsoft has the decks with the proper messaging, and then the Ignite teams will source the speakers they believe fit the decks best. Ill leave it at that. I almost, *almost*, went off on a soapbox tangent for both preceding paragraphs. But, you all are smart enough to figure it out. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 mailto:troy.mar...@1e.com troy.mar...@1e.com | http://www.1e.com/ www.1e.com http://www.1e.com/http://ignite.microsoft.com/ https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal https://twitter.com/1E_Global/ http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php http://blogs.1e.com/feed/ https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 mailto:troy.mar...@1e.com troy.mar...@1e.com | http://www.1e.com/ www.1e.com http://www.1e.com/http://ignite.microsoft.com/ https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal https://twitter.com/1E_Global/ http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php http://blogs.1e.com/feed/ https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We dont see a vendor list
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
That may be true - but even the ConfigMgr sessions that have been announced are 99% level 300 or lower, so not much in depth. And it's February! - Ignite is in May and they still haven't firmed up the sessions? I don't think so.. If you're planning to attend conferences as part of your training most folks need to know well in advance what's on so that they can get authorization and book hotels etc. or consider other conferences Just go to MMS :) Phil From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: 19 February 2015 16:44 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We don't see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified to: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email or calling +44(0) 2083269015 (UK) or +1 866 592 4214 (USA). This email and any attachments may be privileged and/or confidential. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or printing of any information it contains is strictly prohibited. The opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of 1E Ltd. Nothing in this email will operate to bind 1E to any order or other contract.
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
What's in a name? Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager Sent from my Windows Phone From: Rod Trentmailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: 2/19/2015 12:13 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? More will be added for System Center and Server. That much is true. However, when I was told that, I was also told that Configuration Manager is not really considered to be part of System Center any longer. So, don’t expect many more ConfigMgr sessions to post. There’s clear reasons behind this. Also consider that Ignite now uses a sort of aged “editorial calendar” method for sessions. Microsoft has the decks with the proper messaging, and then the Ignite teams will source the speakers they believe fit the decks best. I’ll leave it at that. I almost, *almost*, went off on a soapbox tangent for both preceding paragraphs. But, you all are smart enough to figure it out. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 mailto:troy.mar...@1e.com troy.mar...@1e.com | http://www.1e.com/ www.1e.com http://www.1e.com/http://ignite.microsoft.com/ https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal https://twitter.com/1E_Global/ http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php http://blogs.1e.com/feed/ https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 mailto:troy.mar...@1e.com troy.mar...@1e.com | http://www.1e.com/ www.1e.com http://www.1e.com/http://ignite.microsoft.com/ https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal https://twitter.com/1E_Global/ http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php http://blogs.1e.com/feed/ https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We don’t see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld _ NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified to: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. _ Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email or calling +44(0) 2083269015 (UK) or +1 866 592 4214 (USA). This email and any attachments may
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
Product name just hasn’t changed yet. :) If you want a more accurate name, look at what Microsoft calls the MVPs in that area. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Eric Groff Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:39 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What's in a name? Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager Sent from my Windows Phone _ From: Rod Trent mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: 2/19/2015 12:13 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? More will be added for System Center and Server. That much is true. However, when I was told that, I was also told that Configuration Manager is not really considered to be part of System Center any longer. So, don’t expect many more ConfigMgr sessions to post. There’s clear reasons behind this. Also consider that Ignite now uses a sort of aged “editorial calendar” method for sessions. Microsoft has the decks with the proper messaging, and then the Ignite teams will source the speakers they believe fit the decks best. I’ll leave it at that. I almost, *almost*, went off on a soapbox tangent for both preceding paragraphs. But, you all are smart enough to figure it out. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 mailto:troy.mar...@1e.com troy.mar...@1e.com | http://www.1e.com/ www.1e.com http://www.1e.com/http://ignite.microsoft.com/ https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal https://twitter.com/1E_Global/ http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php http://blogs.1e.com/feed/ https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 mailto:troy.mar...@1e.com troy.mar...@1e.com | http://www.1e.com/ www.1e.com http://www.1e.com/http://ignite.microsoft.com/ https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal https://twitter.com/1E_Global/ http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php http://blogs.1e.com/feed/ https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We don’t see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld _ NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified
Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
Nash, don't be dissin' SMS er... SCCM er... ConfigMgr er... oh, what's your name today? On Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:56 PM, Nash Pherson na...@nowmicro.com wrote: ConfigMgr is being renamed “exasperating and sometimes downright obnoxious”? Microsoft EaSDO: For all your systems management needs. From:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Product name just hasn’t changed yet. J If you want a more accurate name, look at what Microsoft calls the MVPs in that area. From:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Eric Groff Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:39 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What's in a name? Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager Sent from my Windows Phone From: Rod Trent Sent: 2/19/2015 12:13 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? More will be added for System Center and Server. That much is true. However, when I was told that, I was also told that Configuration Manager is not really considered to be part of System Center any longer. So, don’t expect many more ConfigMgr sessions to post. There’s clear reasons behind this. Also consider that Ignite now uses a sort of aged “editorial calendar” method for sessions. Microsoft has the decks with the proper messaging, and then the Ignite teams will source the speakers they believe fit the decks best. I’ll leave it at that. I almost, *almost*, went off on a soapbox tangent for both preceding paragraphs. But, you all are smart enough to figure it out. From:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab Troy L. Martin| Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.com| www.1e.com From:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks J Troy L. Martin| Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.com| www.1e.com From: mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We don’t see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified to: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received
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If you haven't seen http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Future-Decoded-Tech-Day-2014/TechDays-Online-2015/Microsoft-Corporate-Keynote-and-Interview-Jeffrey-Snover yet, it gives you some hints of what's coming for Windows Server. They have an interesting challenge with sessions related to this as they would give away things that haven't been made public yet. But be prepared for plenty of whoa moments, from a former server/data center guy :) Thanks, -Michael From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:11 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? More will be added for System Center and Server. That much is true. However, when I was told that, I was also told that Configuration Manager is not really considered to be part of System Center any longer. So, don't expect many more ConfigMgr sessions to post. There's clear reasons behind this. Also consider that Ignite now uses a sort of aged editorial calendar method for sessions. Microsoft has the decks with the proper messaging, and then the Ignite teams will source the speakers they believe fit the decks best. I'll leave it at that. I almost, *almost*, went off on a soapbox tangent for both preceding paragraphs. But, you all are smart enough to figure it out. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
ConfigMgr is being renamed “exasperating and sometimes downright obnoxious”? Microsoft EaSDO: For all your systems management needs. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Product name just hasn’t changed yet. ☺ If you want a more accurate name, look at what Microsoft calls the MVPs in that area. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Eric Groff Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:39 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What's in a name? Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager Sent from my Windows Phone From: Rod Trentmailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: 2/19/2015 12:13 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? More will be added for System Center and Server. That much is true. However, when I was told that, I was also told that Configuration Manager is not really considered to be part of System Center any longer. So, don’t expect many more ConfigMgr sessions to post. There’s clear reasons behind this. Also consider that Ignite now uses a sort of aged “editorial calendar” method for sessions. Microsoft has the decks with the proper messaging, and then the Ignite teams will source the speakers they believe fit the decks best. I’ll leave it at that. I almost, *almost*, went off on a soapbox tangent for both preceding paragraphs. But, you all are smart enough to figure it out. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum..commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks ☺ Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php
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Is that the product name or what is thought of the community (us)? Daniel Ratliff From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Nash Pherson Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:54 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? ConfigMgr is being renamed “exasperating and sometimes downright obnoxious”? Microsoft EaSDO: For all your systems management needs. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Product name just hasn’t changed yet. ☺ If you want a more accurate name, look at what Microsoft calls the MVPs in that area. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Eric Groff Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:39 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What's in a name? Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager Sent from my Windows Phone From: Rod Trentmailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: 2/19/2015 12:13 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? More will be added for System Center and Server. That much is true. However, when I was told that, I was also told that Configuration Manager is not really considered to be part of System Center any longer. So, don’t expect many more ConfigMgr sessions to post. There’s clear reasons behind this. Also consider that Ignite now uses a sort of aged “editorial calendar” method for sessions. Microsoft has the decks with the proper messaging, and then the Ignite teams will source the speakers they believe fit the decks best. I’ll leave it at that. I almost, *almost*, went off on a soapbox tangent for both preceding paragraphs. But, you all are smart enough to figure it out. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum..commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks ☺ Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
I have to say wow, I stirred up a hornet's nest. But a very informative one. Thank you. Definitely staying tuned to what happens with Config Mgr. I detect a name change in the air, and it's going to include the word Intune. Oh wait, I said that in 2009. Ivan Lindenfeld From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:48 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I was lucky enough to be in the Raddison Blu. Didn't go outside for 4 days, was perfect, you could wear shorts! Daniel Ratliff From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Schwan, Phil Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:31 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? It honestly wasn't that bad at all. I was a late registrant and so wasn't at the venue hotel. I had to walk all of a quarter mile outside to my hotel. NBD. -Phil From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:13 PM To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Oh, wow Minnesota in November? I don't think I have enough clothes... From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Poling Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:20 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? MMS now refers to this: http://mms.mnscug.org/ Jeff From: joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.govmailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:14:43 + But Didn't MMS get swallowed up by TechEd? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Phil Wilcock Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:08 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? That may be true - but even the ConfigMgr sessions that have been announced are 99% level 300 or lower, so not much in depth. And it's February! - Ignite is in May and they still haven't firmed up the sessions? I don't think so.. If you're planning to attend conferences as part of your training most folks need to know well in advance what's on so that they can get authorization and book hotels etc. or consider other conferences Just go to MMS :) Phil From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: 19 February 2015 16:44 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png
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just go down the list of sessions,. anything you want to see call your ms account rep and they will bring in someone to show it to you. If someone pays money to go to a marketing event they are retarded On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Product name just hasn’t changed yet. J If you want a more accurate name, look at what Microsoft calls the MVPs in that area. *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Groff *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:39 PM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What's in a name? Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager Sent from my Windows Phone -- *From: *Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com *Sent: *2/19/2015 12:13 *To: *mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject: *RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? More will be added for System Center and Server. That much is true. However, when I was told that, I was also told that Configuration Manager is not really considered to be part of System Center any longer. So, don’t expect many more ConfigMgr sessions to post. There’s clear reasons behind this. Also consider that Ignite now uses a sort of aged “editorial calendar” method for sessions. Microsoft has the decks with the proper messaging, and then the Ignite teams will source the speakers they believe fit the decks best. I’ll leave it at that. I almost, **almost**, went off on a soapbox tangent for both preceding paragraphs. But, you all are smart enough to figure it out. *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Troy Martin *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab *Troy L. Martin* | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation *Provision software, not infrastructure* US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.com [image: cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30] http://www.1e.com/ [image: Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [image: cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30] https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[image: cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30] https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[image: cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30] http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[image: cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30] http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[image: cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30] http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[image: cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30] https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Harjit Dhaliwal *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum..com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Troy Martin *Sent:* den 19 februari 2015 17:24 *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks J *Troy L. Martin* | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation *Provision software, not infrastructure* US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.com [image: cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30] http://www.1e.com/ [image: Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [image: cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30] https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[image: cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30] https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[image: cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30] http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[image: cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30] http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[image: cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30] http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[image: cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30
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...if you are a server/data center kind of guy... From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:31 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Highly recommended viewing. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:23 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? If you haven't seen http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Future-Decoded-Tech-Day-2014/TechDays-Online-2015/Microsoft-Corporate-Keynote-and-Interview-Jeffrey-Snover yet, it gives you some hints of what's coming for Windows Server. They have an interesting challenge with sessions related to this as they would give away things that haven't been made public yet. But be prepared for plenty of whoa moments, from a former server/data center guy :) Thanks, -Michael From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:11 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? More will be added for System Center and Server. That much is true. However, when I was told that, I was also told that Configuration Manager is not really considered to be part of System Center any longer. So, don't expect many more ConfigMgr sessions to post. There's clear reasons behind this. Also consider that Ignite now uses a sort of aged editorial calendar method for sessions. Microsoft has the decks with the proper messaging, and then the Ignite teams will source the speakers they believe fit the decks best. I'll leave it at that. I almost, *almost*, went off on a soapbox tangent for both preceding paragraphs. But, you all are smart enough to figure it out. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum..commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com
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...and much of this same message was conveyed by the MVP team repeatedly, over a period of years... several will recall that meeting long before Houston TechEd (2013?) with Ali, BradAnd and a gaggle of conference/marketing folks. didn’t amount to anything at all, then or now. Ed Aldrich Mobile: (401) 924-2293 ed.aldr...@1e.commailto:ed.aldr...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [Description: Description: cid:image011.png@01CAD56A.EFDE3F90] Ent Cli Mgmt (2003-2014) From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:04 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? You really are trying to goad me onto my soapbox, aren’t you? The problem is highlighted in your text below. Fix that and we may be able to find our way back to a technical event that this group wants to attend. ☺ I’ll make this brief. We worked extremely hard for MMS each year to ensure there was enough technical content, despite it being run by marketing. That effort was a LOT of work that a lot of people don’t realize. In 2013, just prior to TechEd 2014, we lost our advocates and those left refused to listen. Result: TechEd 2014 for MMS folks was a joke. New year, brand new event – marketing still making the decisions, and we have a total of 5 events rolled into one. Ignite will be bigger and the focus is clearly on roadmap. That doesn’t hold much hope for those whose bosses demand a certain level of technical value. And, for this community, with a smattering of ConfigMgr sessions coming, they can get the same value just by gathering teams members around a desk and streaming the keynotes in the office. There’s very little hope to turn Ignite into a ConfigMgr or on-premises management heavy event no matter how much feedback is given. That’s simply not Microsoft’s focus and direction. However, that all said, it’s not all doom and gloom for me. I’m looking forward to it (mostly out of curiosity) and Ignite better represents my focus these days. But, then again, I’m not dealing with the technical issues that this community is day-in and day-out. That’s where smaller, more intimate events like the new MMS provide such a great opportunity for specific groups of people. In my opinion, Microsoft should just produce the best event it can in Ignite. Make it Microsoft’s VMWorld – because really that’s the intent: one message to the biggest crowd possible. But, give up trying to appease the communities. Instead, invest time, resources, and marketing dollars in community led events. Go where the communities are – don’t expect to be able to force them to come to you. That makes it less stressful for everyone. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Czechowski Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:26 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What a coincidence, we were just talking about “slow moving software” in this morning’s Shiproom…. To reiterate Michael’s comments, our marketing team is working on this, even talking with BradAnd, and as I hear have until 2/27 to publish. The list I’ve seen so far includes three additional sessions specific to ConfigMgr – and we’re doing what we can to get more added. At least one of those will be 300+ level (I’m the content owner – unfortunately just don’t know yet whether I’ll be presenting it…). Honestly, this is all awesome feedback. I’ve shared some of your comments verbatim with marketing and leadership so that they understand your frustrations. I definitely can’t promise that will change anything in the next several months, but I hope helps inform strategy decisions in the future. And please don’t let this put any damper on the discussion – it’s why I’ve been on this list for so many years. ☺ Aaron From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Sherry Kissinger Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:03 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Nash, don't be dissin' SMS er... SCCM er... ConfigMgr er... oh, what's your name today? On Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:56 PM, Nash Pherson na...@nowmicro.commailto:na...@nowmicro.com wrote: ConfigMgr is being renamed “exasperating and sometimes downright obnoxious”? Microsoft EaSDO: For all your systems management needs. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Product name just hasn’t changed yet
Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A *From:*listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Troy Martin *Sent:* den 19 februari 2015 17:24 *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks J *Troy L. Martin*| Product Manager, Endpoint Automation *Provision software, not infrastructure* US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.com mailto:troy.mar...@1e.com| www.1e.com http://www.1e.com/ cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30 http://www.1e.com/Blog_Bling_Connect http://ignite.microsoft.com/ cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30 https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobalcid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30 https://twitter.com/1E_Global/cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30 http://www.linkedin.com/company/1ecid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30 http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.phpcid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30 http://blogs.1e.com/feed/cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30 https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts *From:*listsad...@lists.myitforum.com mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Lindenfeld, Ivan *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We don’t see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified to: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email or calling +44(0) 2083269015 (UK) or +1 866 592 4214 (USA). This email and any attachments may be privileged and/or confidential. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or printing of any information it contains is strictly prohibited. The opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of 1E Ltd. Nothing in this email will operate to bind 1E to any order or other contract.
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks :) Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.commailto:troy.mar...@1e.com | www.1e.comhttp://www.1e.com/ [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/ [Blog_Bling_Connect] http://ignite.microsoft.com/ [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://twitter.com/1E_Global/[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]http://blogs.1e.com/feed/[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We don't see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified to: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email or calling +44(0) 2083269015 (UK) or +1 866 592 4214 (USA). This email and any attachments may be privileged and/or confidential. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or printing of any information it contains is strictly prohibited. The opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of 1E Ltd. Nothing in this email will operate to bind 1E to any order or other contract. Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email or calling +44(0) 2083269015 (UK) or +1 866 592 4214 (USA). This email and any attachments may be privileged and/or confidential. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying
RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
My personal opinion, not Microsoft’s ☺ I agree very much with the highlighted parts below. But just because it’s a forward-looking event focused on roadmap and where everything is going, that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a community aspect. Just expect the community aspect to be more like The Krewe (probably 90% social/networking) than like MyITForum (probably 70% technical conversation/how-to, 30% social/networking). Where I tend to disagree with people is in regards to the bashing of Ignite/TechEd/other large Microsoft events. Ignite has its place, and for those that focus on what’s next, it should be considered essential – at least acknowledge that. And that’s not for everyone. For those that live in the here-and-now, well, then maybe you should consider events that focus more on the here-and-now: training on current versions, troubleshooting and notes-from-the-field with live releases, compare notes with like-minded (and similarly challenged) individuals, etc. (For those of you running those events, please focus on the position: Market your events based on their strengths, not by comparing yourself to Ignite.) I’ve been campaigning for more ConfigMgr sessions too, but even if these come I wouldn’t expect them to spend much time on existing releases, except to talk about how they are changing, how you can upgrade, new features/roadmap, etc. If you really want to know how to better use the ConfigMgr app model that hasn’t changed much since 2012, or how to best deploy OS updates to Windows 7, well, we’ve got session recordings on Channel 9 that already cover that ☺ When I was in enterprise IT (granted, that was over 11 years ago now), I considered TechEd to be the one must-attend conference each year. That reflected what I did: I was an enterprise infrastructure and desktop architect, responsible for a variety of Microsoft-related technologies, and it was the only place where I could find out where I needed to be heading (for my company) in the coming year. Ignite continues in that tradition. Thanks, -Michael From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:04 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? You really are trying to goad me onto my soapbox, aren’t you? The problem is highlighted in your text below. Fix that and we may be able to find our way back to a technical event that this group wants to attend. ☺ I’ll make this brief. We worked extremely hard for MMS each year to ensure there was enough technical content, despite it being run by marketing. That effort was a LOT of work that a lot of people don’t realize. In 2013, just prior to TechEd 2014, we lost our advocates and those left refused to listen. Result: TechEd 2014 for MMS folks was a joke. New year, brand new event – marketing still making the decisions, and we have a total of 5 events rolled into one. Ignite will be bigger and the focus is clearly on roadmap. That doesn’t hold much hope for those whose bosses demand a certain level of technical value. And, for this community, with a smattering of ConfigMgr sessions coming, they can get the same value just by gathering teams members around a desk and streaming the keynotes in the office. There’s very little hope to turn Ignite into a ConfigMgr or on-premises management heavy event no matter how much feedback is given. That’s simply not Microsoft’s focus and direction. However, that all said, it’s not all doom and gloom for me. I’m looking forward to it (mostly out of curiosity) and Ignite better represents my focus these days. But, then again, I’m not dealing with the technical issues that this community is day-in and day-out. That’s where smaller, more intimate events like the new MMS provide such a great opportunity for specific groups of people. In my opinion, Microsoft should just produce the best event it can in Ignite. Make it Microsoft’s VMWorld – because really that’s the intent: one message to the biggest crowd possible. But, give up trying to appease the communities. Instead, invest time, resources, and marketing dollars in community led events. Go where the communities are – don’t expect to be able to force them to come to you. That makes it less stressful for everyone. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Czechowski Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:26 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.commailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What a coincidence, we were just talking about “slow moving software” in this morning’s Shiproom…. To reiterate Michael’s comments, our marketing team is working on this, even talking with BradAnd, and as I hear have until 2/27 to publish. The list I’ve seen so far includes three additional sessions
