Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-14 Thread gm
Good idea with the random phase We did pseudo PWM with two identical arbitrary waves, one inverted, but not what you describe with random phase Am 14.03.2018 um 13:06 schrieb Frank Sheeran: > Another disadvantage was that you get a noticable chirp transient when > the phases realign after

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-14 Thread Frank Sheeran
> Another disadvantage was that you get a noticable chirp transient when > the phases realign after one complete cycle of the wavetable. Just put them in the buffer with random phases and they'll never re-align. That's not what a piano does of course, but might be servicable. BTW, my synth does

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-14 Thread gm
Am 14.03.2018 um 12:00 schrieb robert bristow-johnson: > Some years ago I tried to make a "stretched partials" sawtooth this way > and found that the tables get prohibitively large the *number* of wavetables gets large, right?  is that what you mean? yes, bad wording it doesn't have

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-14 Thread robert bristow-johnson
Original Message Subject: Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats? From: "gm" <g...@voxangelica.net> Date: Wed, March 14, 2018 6:46 am To: music-dsp@mu

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-14 Thread robert bristow-johnson
Original Message Subject: Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats? From: "gm" <g...@voxangelica.net> Date: Wed, March 14, 2018 6:39 am To: music-dsp@mu

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-14 Thread gm
Another disadvantage was that you get a noticable chirp transient when the phases realign after one complete cycle of the wavetable. You don't have this in a piano since the phases never realign again after the initial strike so you have the transient only at the onset of the note. Am

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-14 Thread gm
Some years ago I tried to make a "stretched partials" sawtooth this way and found that the tables get prohibitively large since you are restricted to common devisors or integer multiples for the "spin cycles" and phase steps of the partials. The second lowest partial needs to make at least one

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-13 Thread Andy Drucker
Below is my interpretation of the cool partial-shifting method Robert has proposed. (I'm just trying to understand, no claim to originality.) As far as I understand it, the method obtains, from a harmonic waveform, a family of new waveforms where the partials are selectively pitch-shifted, but

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-13 Thread Risto Holopainen
> imagine it's two-dimensional vector synthesis like a Prophet VS.  one > dimension is some other timbre parameter with a minimum and a maximum > (no wrap around). > > so, in the other dimension, imagine having say, 6 identical wavetables > except the 2nd harmonic is offset by 60 degrees in phase

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-13 Thread robert bristow-johnson
Original Message Subject: Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats? From: "Risto Holopainen" <ebel...@ristoid.net> Date: Mon, March 12, 2018 1:19 pm To: music-dsp@mu

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-12 Thread Risto Holopainen
  Thanks for your friendly comments, Robert! First of all, I probably need to clarify that I'm not trying to make a traditional synth application out of these wavetables, but I will use some of them in my own compositions in one way or another. > > 1. "The wavetables are written to an array

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-12 Thread robert bristow-johnson
Original Message Subject: Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats? From: "Risto Holopainen" <ebel...@ristoid.net> Date: Sat, March 10, 2018 11:58 am To: music-dsp@mu

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-11 Thread Eric Brombaugh
On 03/10/2018 12:40 PM, Andy Drucker wrote: Just to note, WaveEdit *does* let you draw in the spectrum.  It's the only tool I can think of that seamlessly allows edits in both domains at once, and allows non-mathematical users to "puzzle out" the relation between the two in a hands-on way.

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-10 Thread Andy Drucker
>What I notice in so many of the existing tools in this niche is that they all let you "draw your own waveform!!" as if that's something you'd actually want to do. It always seemed obvious to me that at least drawing the harmonic spectrum would be far more useful, so why this "draw waveform"

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-10 Thread Risto Holopainen
Den 2018-03-10 kl. 16:33, skrev Frank Sheeran: > > What I notice in so many of the existing tools in this niche is that > they all let you "draw your own waveform!!" as if that's something > you'd actually want to do.  It always seemed obvious to me that at > least drawing the harmonic

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-10 Thread Frank Sheeran
> > > > There's an open-source wavetable editor: > > https://github.com/AndrewBelt/WaveEdit Thanks Eric. > This was written by Andrew Belt (author of VCV Rack) under commission > from Synthesis Technology for creating wavetables for their line of > Eurorack wavetable oscillators. Several

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-06 Thread Nigel Redmon
Hi Frank. I’ve never messed with these, but it seems obvious that they are either going to have a predictable format (that they specify *somewhere*, if they intend to let people sue anything but their own editor), or add/expect additional info bundled in the wave file (in which case they’d also

[music-dsp] Wavetable File Formats?

2018-03-06 Thread Frank Sheeran
I've written a Wavetable Oscillator for my modular software synthesizer. Surveying the synth software I can find (Serum, XRSDO, etc.) it seems that they all store wavetables in WAV files, PCM format, which I'm able to read and use with libsndfile. However, is there any idea how I can tell how