Re: [mb-style] Release Country: What's preferred, Europe or all countries we can find even small evidence for?

2011-05-30 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 07:37, jacobbrett jacobbr...@hotmail.com wrote: Philip Jägenstedt wrote: On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 22:02, Simon Austin chi...@auzsoft.net wrote: In this edit, http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14510889 some want to move an existing German release event to Europe, and keep

Re: [mb-style] Release Country: What's preferred, Europe or all countries we can find even small evidence for?

2011-05-30 Thread Simon Austin
On 30/05/2011 07:38, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: While I wouldn't mind keeping track of the fact that something was released in several regions, duplicating releases in this situation seems way overkill to me. For now, I'm putting additional regions in annotations, and have even entered edits to

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread symphonick
Update: I've finished version 2, following the ongoing discussions. Also some topics were added, please have your say. http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:symphonick/Unofficial_CSG_release_names Can I also get some initial comments for a howto I've just started:

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread Brant Gibbard
I mostly agree with the directon you are taking, but one big item jumped right out at me: are you seriously suggesting (in the section Multiple Artists) that we should create new artist entries called just Mannion, Remmert, Taylor, Hauptmann just because they are printed that way on the cover

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread Brant Gibbard
Update: I'm still getting used to the new format in SNG, and I never noticed the Artist as credited field, which is now what I guess you mean in the http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:symphonick/Unofficial_CSG_release_names issue I mentioned. I am less opposed to that, but I still don't see any

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread symphonick
On Mon, 30 May 2011 16:27:36 +0200, Brant Gibbard bgibb...@ca.inter.net wrote: Update: I'm still getting used to the new format in SNG, and I never noticed the Artist as credited field, which is now what I guess you mean in the

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread Brant Gibbard
In terms of the howto page one thing I would look at is the wording: The title is in all caps on the cover, we don't enter that. under the Title Release Group section. I know that you mean to standardise capitalisation, but if I took it literally I might think you meant don't enter Symphonie

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread Brant Gibbard
Yes, I completely agree with the Rozhdestvesnky example. Brant Gibbard Toronto, ON http://bgibbard.ca -Original Message- From: musicbrainz-style-boun...@lists.musicbrainz.org [mailto:musicbrainz-style-boun...@lists.musicbrainz.org] On Behalf Of symphonick Sent: May-30-11 10:30 AM

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread symphonick
On Mon, 30 May 2011 16:32:04 +0200, Brant Gibbard bgibb...@ca.inter.net wrote: In terms of the howto page one thing I would look at is the wording: The title is in all caps on the cover, we don't enter that. under the Title Release Group section. I know that you mean to standardise

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2011/5/30 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com On Mon, 30 May 2011 16:32:04 +0200, Brant Gibbard bgibb...@ca.inter.net wrote: In terms of the howto page one thing I would look at is the wording: The title is in all caps on the cover, we don't enter that. under the Title Release Group

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread Brant Gibbard
Perhaps something like: The title is in all caps on the cover, but we normally standardise capitalisation unless there is a strong reason to believe that the musicians (as opposed to the cover designer) intended to appear that way. Brant Gibbard Toronto, ON http://bgibbard.ca -Original

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread symphonick
On Mon, 30 May 2011 17:01:12 +0200, Brant Gibbard bgibb...@ca.inter.net wrote: Perhaps something like: The title is in all caps on the cover, but we normally standardise capitalisation unless there is a strong reason to believe that the musicians (as opposed to the cover designer)

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread symphonick
On Mon, 30 May 2011 16:55:01 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com wrote: What about also putting an example? Sorry, it was you who were asking for an example. Explain. /symphonick ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list

Re: [mb-style] Release Country: What's preferred, Europe or all countries we can find even small evidence for?

2011-05-30 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 14:24, Simon Austin chi...@auzsoft.net wrote: On 30/05/2011 07:38, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: While I wouldn't mind keeping track of the fact that something was released in several regions, duplicating releases in this situation seems way overkill to me. For now, I'm

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2011/5/30 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com On Mon, 30 May 2011 16:55:01 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com wrote: What about also putting an example? Sorry, it was you who were asking for an example. Explain. Example: (...) so that the printed title SYMPHONIE FATASTIQUE

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread Brant Gibbard
If you mean an example where all caps would be appropriate? I can't off-hand think of a classical example. Most of the cases I have heard people mention with weird capitalization, deliberately strange spellings or punctuation and the like were popular music (frequently rap or Japanese popular

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread symphonick
On Mon, 30 May 2011 17:16:24 +0200, Brant Gibbard bgibb...@ca.inter.net wrote: If you mean an example where all caps would be appropriate? I can't off-hand think of a classical example. Most of the cases I have heard people mention with weird capitalization, deliberately strange

Re: [mb-style] Release Country: What's preferred, Europe or all countries we can find even small evidence for?

2011-05-30 Thread Kuno Woudt
Hello, On 30/05/11 17:14, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: In my vocabulary, there really is just 1 release when two copies are identical in all respects (content, packaging, barcode, label, catalog number) except for where it was printed and sold. This is really different pressings/printings of the

Re: [mb-style] Release Country: What's preferred, Europe or all countries we can find even small evidence for?

2011-05-30 Thread caller#6
On 05/30/2011 08:14 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: This is not really new for NGS, but it is true that it was cheaper to have multiple release events before NGS, so there was less motivation to clean up incorrect or redundant release events. In my vocabulary, there really is just 1 release

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread Wieland Hoffmann
Hallo, symphonick: Update: I've finished version 2, following the ongoing discussions. Also some topics were added, please have your say. http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:symphonick/Unofficial_CSG_release_names I'm entering recording location from the booklet in the annotation, since

Re: [mb-style] CSG: research for Release names artists

2011-05-30 Thread symphonick
On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:42:00 +0200, Wieland Hoffmann themi...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm entering recording location from the booklet in the annotation, since there's no way to record that in MB: Recorded in Stockholm Concert Hall 4-9 November 1991 Well, that's only partially true. You can

Re: [mb-style] RFV: Add Secondhandsongs Relationship Type

2011-05-30 Thread Nikki
As more than 48 hours have passed, this proposal has passed. If you want to add it yourself now, feel free (otherwise I'll do it later). Nikki Aurélien Mino wrote: Summary: Addition of a Work-URL relationship type to link works at the Secondhandsongs database. See RFC and proposal wiki