Re: Why Mail-Followup-To header for a non-list address?

2023-08-20 Thread raf via Mutt-users
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 06:25:57PM +0800, "Kevin J. McCarthy" wrote: > On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 03:53:09PM +1000, raf via Mutt-users wrote: > > I don't have any "lists" commands. I do have a "subscribe" command > > which refers to mailing lists by their aliases. One of the aliases > > is

Re: Why Mail-Followup-To header for a non-list address?

2023-08-20 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 03:53:09PM +1000, raf via Mutt-users wrote: I don't have any "lists" commands. I do have a "subscribe" command which refers to mailing lists by their aliases. One of the aliases is "debian" and the email address in question does contain "+debian" but that shouldn't

Why Mail-Followup-To header for a non-list address?

2023-08-20 Thread raf via Mutt-users
Hi, Someone recently emailed me. Technically it was a reply to an old email of mine. Since then, a few emails have gone back and forth between us. All of my outgoing mails to this one address have had a Mail-Followup-To header added. I have no idea why. The address isn't mentioned in any

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-05-01 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 10:50:47AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 08:57:50AM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > > > I always thought $followup_to was a pretty nice feature. While I > > sympathize with Matthias, the mischief was the result of > > misconfiguration, and Mutt

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-05-01 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 06:33:52AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día jueves, abril 26, 2018 a las 05:28:55p. m. -0500, Derek Martin > escribió: > > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 07:31:20PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > $ grep -i Mail-Followup-To ~/.muttrc > >

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-30 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 05:27:26PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > Here, declares: "Mutt also supports the Mail-Followup-To header. > When you send a message to a list of recipients which includes one or > several subscribed mailing lists, and if the $followup_to option

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-30 Thread Erik Christiansen
> > However, if there is a strong majority of mutt-users subscribers that > agree with $followup_to defaulting to 'no', I'll make the change. Here, declares: "Mutt also supports the Mail-Followup-To header. When you send a message to a list of recipients which includes one or severa

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-27 Thread Will Yardley
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 08:57:50AM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > I always thought $followup_to was a pretty nice feature. While I > sympathize with Matthias, the mischief was the result of > misconfiguration, and Mutt requires nothing if not attention to the > documentation and

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Kevin J. McCarthy [04-27-18 11:58]: [...] > I always thought $followup_to was a pretty nice feature. While I > sympathize with Matthias, the mischief was the result of > misconfiguration, and Mutt requires nothing if not attention to the > documentation and configuration. > >

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-27 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 08:50:35PM +, Mihai Lazarescu wrote: > > > On April 26, 2018 8:24:16 PM UTC, Ian Zimmerman <i...@very.loosely.org> wrote: > > On 2018-04-25 10:24, Will Yardley wrote: > > > > > Kind of thread drift, but I actually wonder if Mutt

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
s the list manager, and that's what I call munging. > > I don't believe so. I have reply_goes_to_list set to 'Poster', which is > not supposed to add (or remove) any such header. yes, Mail-Followup-To, is set to list addr and Reply-To is empty. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-27 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 07:48:40AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-04-27 06:33, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > Hmm, someone set Reply-To in the headers of your mail too. > > That was the list manager, and that's what I call munging. I don't believe so. I have reply_goes_to_list set to

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-27 06:33, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hmm, someone set Reply-To in the headers of your mail too. That was the list manager, and that's what I call munging. AIUI it was one of the reasons why Mail-Followup-To was invented, because Reply-To could not be trusted anymore. I feel it wo

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-26 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día jueves, abril 26, 2018 a las 05:28:55p. m. -0500, Derek Martin escribió: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 07:31:20PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > $ grep -i Mail-Followup-To ~/.muttrc > > $ > > > > as I said, I do not set any Mail-Followup-To; and I think Reply-

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-26 Thread Derek Martin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 07:31:20PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > $ grep -i Mail-Followup-To ~/.muttrc > $ > > as I said, I do not set any Mail-Followup-To; and I think Reply-To: > and From: is quite normal; Reply-To should normally not be set; its purpose is to route mail to the

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-26 Thread Mihai Lazarescu
On April 26, 2018 8:24:16 PM UTC, Ian Zimmerman <i...@very.loosely.org> wrote: > On 2018-04-25 10:24, Will Yardley wrote: > > > Kind of thread drift, but I actually wonder if Mutt shouldn't move > > away from Mail-Followup-To, as it never became a standard, and is > n

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-25 10:24, Will Yardley wrote: > Kind of thread drift, but I actually wonder if Mutt shouldn't move > away from Mail-Followup-To, as it never became a standard, and is not > really adopted by (m)any other commonly used mail clients. It is supported by Gnus. I don't know of a

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-26 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 06:38:54AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Wednesday, April 25, 2018 a las 08:23:37PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan > escribió: > > > you might want to reconsider. you said *you* didn't make the setting, > > that "mutt" was to blame. there really is no "blame". one

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-25 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, April 25, 2018 a las 08:23:37PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan escribió: > you might want to reconsider. you said *you* didn't make the setting, > that "mutt" was to blame. there really is no "blame". one must make the > settings to do what they wish and you didn't bother and now

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-25 Thread Matthias Apitz
I'm tired of such blames. I'm using mutt for more then 15 years, IIRC. And of course every day you learn something new or something I did wrong. But what you send is not help, but just blames. Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ 

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Matthias Apitz [04-25-18 17:20]: > El día miércoles, abril 25, 2018 a las 04:14:52p. m. -0400, Patrick Shanahan > escribió: > > > > Who adds this? mutt by its own? If so, based on what? > > > > > > you do, don't you have man pages for mutt and muttrc? mutt doesn't do > >

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-25 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día miércoles, abril 25, 2018 a las 04:14:52p. m. -0400, Patrick Shanahan escribió: > > Who adds this? mutt by its own? If so, based on what? > > > you do, don't you have man pages for mutt and muttrc? mutt doesn't do > anything except what *you* tell it to. no, mutt does it by its own

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-25 Thread Todd Zullinger
system makeing changes to your posts, >> >> the 'system' is a FreeBSD netbook using mutt+sendmail; >> >> I will Cc me on this mail to see its sent headers; > > The outgoing mails contains a header line: > > Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz <g...@unixarea.de>,

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
en you have someone in your system makeing changes to your posts, > > > > the 'system' is a FreeBSD netbook using mutt+sendmail; > > > > I will Cc me on this mail to see its sent headers; > > The outgoing mails contains a header line: > > Mail-Fol

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-25 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
00, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, 25 April 2018 17:17:54 CEST, Patrick Shanahan > > > > > which he did and does regularily: > > > > > "Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz <g...@unixarea.de>, > > > > > mutt-users@mutt.or

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-25 Thread Matthias Apitz
FreeBSD netbook using mutt+sendmail; > > I will Cc me on this mail to see its sent headers; The outgoing mails contains a header line: Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz <g...@unixarea.de>, mutt-users@mutt.org Who adds this? mutt by its own? If so, based on what?

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-25 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día miércoles, abril 25, 2018 a las 02:46:06p. m. -0400, Patrick Shanahan escribió: > then you have someone in your system makeing changes to your posts, the 'system' is a FreeBSD netbook using mutt+sendmail; I will Cc me on this mail to see its sent headers; matthias -- Matthias

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, 25 April 2018 17:17:54 CEST, Patrick Shanahan > > > > > which he did and does regularily: > > > > > "Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz <g...@unixarea.de>, > > > > > mutt-users@mutt.org&quo

Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-25 Thread Matthias Apitz
ahan > > > > which he did and does regularily: > > > > "Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz <g...@unixarea.de>, > > > > mutt-users@mutt.org" > > > > > > I do not set this in my mutt. > > > > Try adding mutt-users to

Mail-Followup-To (was Re: breaking long header lines into 2 (or more) lines)

2018-04-25 Thread Will Yardley
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 09:28:02AM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 05:56:43PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > On Wednesday, 25 April 2018 17:17:54 CEST, Patrick Shanahan > > > which he did and does regularily: > > > "Mail-Followup-To:

Re: Mail-Followup-To and friends

2010-10-25 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Saturday, October 23 at 05:45 PM, quoth Mike Hollis: The only problem with this config is I have to use List-Reply for some mail and not for others. I had this problem (or something similar), and I used hooks to fix it for all intents and

Re: Mail-Followup-To and friends

2010-10-25 Thread Mike Hollis
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 01:25:53PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Saturday, October 23 at 05:45 PM, quoth Mike Hollis: The only problem with this config is I have to use List-Reply for some mail and not for others. I had this problem (or something similar), and I used hooks to fix it for

Re: Mail-Followup-To and friends

2010-10-24 Thread Mike Hollis
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 02:14:30PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 23Oct2010 17:45, Mike Hollis zzf...@embarqmail.com wrote: | The only problem with this config is I have to use List-Reply for some | mail and not for others. they're usually what I intend and easy to change if not. I can

Mail-Followup-To and friends

2010-10-23 Thread Mike Hollis
followup_to=yes set honor_followup_to=yes lists mutt-users@ some-others@ **suscribe caused only mutt-users@ to be shown in the index ** I wanted to see the posters names various save-hooks If I understand correctly I wiil have Mail-Followup-to header set to the mailing list I am responding and responces

Re: Mail-Followup-To and friends

2010-10-23 Thread Monte Stevens
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 05:45:51PM -0400, Mike Hollis wrote: **suscribe caused only mutt-users@ to be shown in the index ** I wanted to see the posters names What is your index_format? If you are using the default, change the 'L' to 'n'. (Sorry for excessive trimming, I only wanted to tackle

Re: Mail-Followup-To and friends

2010-10-23 Thread Mike Hollis
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 07:30:22PM -0300, Monte Stevens wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 05:45:51PM -0400, Mike Hollis wrote: **suscribe caused only mutt-users@ to be shown in the index ** I wanted to see the posters names What is your index_format? If you are using the default, change the

Re: Mail-Followup-To and friends

2010-10-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
-hooks | | If I understand correctly I wiil have Mail-Followup-to header set to the | mailing list I am responding and responces go to the list rather than to | me , which is what I want. | | The only problem with this config is I have to use List-Reply for some | mail and not for others. I

Re: Mutt not generating Mail-Followup-To header?

2010-05-02 Thread Gary
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:07:13AM -0700, Michael Elkins wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 07:46:23PM +0200, Gary wrote: If you can produce a test muttrc and a test email message that exhibit the problem Well, it applies to outgoing email, so the latter doesn't really apply, but I can send my

Re: Mutt not generating Mail-Followup-To header?

2010-05-02 Thread Christian Ebert
* Gary on Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 16:28:59 +0200 On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:07:13AM -0700, Michael Elkins wrote: The idea is to create a rc file and set of actions that demonstrate the problem. It could be just a bogus mailing list address if you prefer. Okay. I have cut it down as much as

Re: Mutt not generating Mail-Followup-To header?

2010-05-02 Thread Gary
Christian Ebert writes: * Gary on Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 16:28:59 +0200 On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:07:13AM -0700, Michael Elkins wrote: The idea is to create a rc file and set of actions that demonstrate the problem. It could be just a bogus mailing list address if you prefer. Okay. I

Re: Mutt not generating Mail-Followup-To header?

2010-04-19 Thread Michael Elkins
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 08:42:58PM +0200, Gary wrote: I may be wrong, but despite set followup_to=yes in my config file, and lists + subscribe entries, mutt doesn't seem to be generating this header correctly. I've got some extra ones being created by my_hdr, but I don't think that could be

Re: Mutt not generating Mail-Followup-To header?

2010-04-19 Thread Michael Elkins
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:14:35PM +0200, Gary wrote: Please let me know what you want and I will try to. If you can produce a test muttrc and a test email message that exhibit the problem, that would be helping for debugging. Typically you want something standalone, so you will invoke it

Ne pas suivre me mail-followup-to en faisant List-reply ?

2003-01-12 Thread Maxime Ritter
Voila, je me suis encore fait n*qu* : je souhaiterais que le List-reply (bindé par défaut sur L) ne suive pas le contenu du champ mail-followup-to. Est-ce que quelqu'un a une idée ? -- Maxime Ritter|French Computer Geek Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Jabber : [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Ne pas suivre me mail-followup-to en faisant List-reply ?

2003-01-12 Thread Cedric Duval
Maxime Ritter a écrit : Voila, je me suis encore fait n*qu* : Quel est le problème ? je souhaiterais que le List-reply (bindé par défaut sur L) ne suive pas le contenu du champ mail-followup-to. Est-ce que quelqu'un a une idée ? macro index L 'enter-commandset honor_followup_to

Re: Mail-Followup-To/Reply-To alternatives

2002-10-01 Thread Will Yardley
Hanspeter Roth wrote: Are there headers used by other MUAs that have similar function like Mail-Followup-To and Reply-To? Well Reply-To: is an internet standard, and is followed by most mailers. Mail-Followup-To: was an internet draft that never got adopted as a standard; mutt is still

Mail-Followup-To/Reply-To alternatives

2002-09-30 Thread Hanspeter Roth
Hello, Are there headers used by other MUAs that have similar function like Mail-Followup-To and Reply-To? (Probably some users configure their mailers to ignore such headers.) -Hanspeter

Re: mail-followup-to header

2002-04-17 Thread Michael Tatge
Eduardo Gargiulo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: I'm running mutt 1.3.28 and i have set followup_to honor_followup_to. Good. :) I want to configure mutt to set mail-followup-to header just only with the address of the mailing list i'm posting to, and not with my address. Is there any way

Re: mail-followup-to header

2002-04-17 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo
Michael Tatge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: set alternates appropriately and configure the lists you are subscribed to with the subscribe command. If you list-reply to a mailinglist mail which has a mft header mutt will only reply to the adresses in the mft header. HTH, thanks, it works.

Re: mail-followup-to header

2002-04-17 Thread Will Yardley
Eduardo Gargiulo wrote: I'm running mutt 1.3.28 and i have set followup_to honor_followup_to. I want to configure mutt to set mail-followup-to header just only with the address of the mailing list i'm posting to, and not with my address. Is there any way to do that? I mean remove other

Re: mail-followup-to header

2002-04-17 Thread darren chamberlain
* Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-17 14:06]: I use diferent email addresses to subscribe to diferent lists, ejg-mutt for mutt-users and ejg-qmail for qmail lists. I use ejg too. Is the following alternetes set appropriately for my scenario? set

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, Jeremy Blosser wrote: Not for list-reply. The important thing to make this command work is letting mutt know which mails are from lists, using the 'subscribe' and 'lists' commands. Bleargh. What a pain in the ass. Most of my mailing lists identify themselves

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread David T-G
Shawn -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % This one time, at band camp, Jeremy Blosser wrote: % % Not for list-reply. The important thing to make this command work is % letting mutt know which mails are from lists, using the 'subscribe' and % 'lists' commands. % % Bleargh. What a

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, David T-G wrote: So, since lists are so easy to recognize, have a script that generates mailing list names from your directories and put something like Mailing lists aren't easy to recognize, at least when they don't put in a header, but you're forgetting that

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Mar 15, Shawn McMahon [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: This one time, at band camp, Jeremy Blosser wrote: Not for list-reply. The important thing to make this command work is letting mutt know which mails are from lists, using the 'subscribe' and 'lists' commands. Bleargh. What a pain

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Dave Pearson
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-15 09:41:11 -0500]: Mailing lists aren't easy to recognize, at least when they don't put in a header, but you're forgetting that this will only come up if the user hits the list-reply key, thereby TELLING mutt that the email was from a list. Perhaps

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Dan Boger
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:57:36PM +, Dave Pearson wrote: * Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-15 09:41:11 -0500]: Mailing lists aren't easy to recognize, at least when they don't put in a header, but you're forgetting that this will only come up if the user hits the list-reply

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, Dave Pearson wrote: Perhaps I'm missing something here but I don't use list-reply to tell mutt that an email is from a mailing list, I use list-reply to tell mutt that I want to respond to the list it was from (instead of to the author of the email, or

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread David T-G
Shawn -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % This one time, at band camp, Dave Pearson wrote: % % Perhaps I'm missing something here but I don't use list-reply to tell mutt % that an email is from a mailing list, I use list-reply to tell mutt that I % want to respond to the list it was

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Mar 15, Shawn McMahon [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: This one time, at band camp, Dave Pearson wrote: Perhaps I'm missing something here but I don't use list-reply to tell mutt that an email is from a mailing list, I use list-reply to tell mutt that I want to respond to the list it was

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Dave Pearson
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-15 10:17:37 -0500]: This one time, at band camp, Dave Pearson wrote: Perhaps I'm missing something here but I don't use list-reply to tell mutt that an email is from a mailing list, I use list-reply to tell mutt that I want to respond to the

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, David T-G wrote: BTW, subscribe is a superset of lists; you'll only need one for lists on which you are and then one for lists on which you aren't. Yeah, figured that one out after I posted. :-) Great. Start coding. Post the result. TIA HAND Trust me, you

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, David Champion wrote: Personally, I don't like the idea of hard-coding mutt to recognize mailing lists according to commonly-observed trends that aren't specified by a reasonably standard standard. There are many ways to identify a mailing list. Mutt shouldn't

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-15 Thread David Champion
* On 2002.03.15, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one time, at band camp, David Champion wrote: Personally, I don't like the idea of hard-coding mutt to recognize mailing lists according to commonly-observed trends that aren't specified by a

Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-14 Thread Sven Guckes
this Mail-Followup-To seems redundant. Sven

Re: list-reply and Mail-Followup-To

2002-03-14 Thread Sven Guckes
. no mailer is complete without such a command. get the word out to those mail suckers, fellow dog owners! btw, you can unset followup_up to not generate the Mail-Followup-To line. Sven

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-14 Thread Dave Pearson
this Mail-Followup-To seems redundant. Could it not be the case that the personal entry in Mail-Followup-To might be pointing to an address with which the author isn't subscribed to the list? This might be an address they monitor all day whereas their mutt subscription might be connected with a less

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-14 Thread Sven Guckes
* Dave Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 14:14]: So this Mail-Followup-To seems redundant [on a closed list] Could it not be the case that the personal entry in Mail-Followup-To might be pointing to an address with which the author isn't subscribed to the list? This might be an address

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-14 Thread Dave Pearson
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 15:26:01 +0100]: oh - you mean, this Mail-Followup-To is for extra notification? Please actually read what I write. I mean it could be one use for someone. You asked a question, I provided one possible answer. Once again it seems that such a question

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-14 Thread Shawn McMahon
This one time, at band camp, Simon White wrote: Ahh yes there is. L (list-reply). Or whatever you map it to in your muttrcs. Cool. Except it doesn't work with any mailing list I've tried. Including, for example, this one... msg25508/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-14 Thread Dan Boger
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 12:20:06PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: This one time, at band camp, Simon White wrote: Ahh yes there is. L (list-reply). Or whatever you map it to in your muttrcs. Cool. Except it doesn't work with any mailing list I've tried. Including, for example, this

Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?

2002-03-14 Thread Simon White
14-Mar-02 at 12:20, Shawn McMahon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : This one time, at band camp, Simon White wrote: Ahh yes there is. L (list-reply). Or whatever you map it to in your muttrcs. Cool. Except it doesn't work with any mailing list I've tried. I just hit SHIFT-L and this

Re: char sets (was Re: mail-followup-to standard.... though it shouldn't have been)

2001-12-05 Thread René Clerc
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-12-2001 03:18]: | My charset value is | | :set ?charset | charset=iso-8859-1 So is mine. | so I should think that it would be fine. Does anyone have any idea what | might be up? Except for this incredibly long list of patches, most values are the same

Re: char sets (was Re: mail-followup-to standard.... though it shouldn't have been)

2001-12-05 Thread Michael Tatge
David T-G muttered: % | % René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Interesting... Your accented e showed up as backslash-three-five-one in the pager My charset value is :set ?charset charset=iso-8859-1 so I should think that it would be fine. Does anyone have any

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 10:21:38PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: the only quasi-official reference i've been able to find on the Mail-Followup-To header is: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98dec/I-D/draft-ietf-drums-mail-followup-to-00.txt while i think that this becoming standard would

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Will Yardley
Cliff Sarginson wrote: On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 10:21:38PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: the only quasi-official reference i've been able to find on the Mail-Followup-To header is: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98dec/I-D/draft-ietf-drums-mail-followup-to-00.txt There are many RFC's

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Cedric Duval
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98dec/I-D/draft-ietf-drums-mail-followup-to-00.txt There are many RFC's in use as standards that never got beyond being draft standards officially I believe. well their point seems to be that since it doesn't appear in rfc 2822, it's likely

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Will Yardley
this in an MTA might cause some problems. for instance if i set the 'Reply-To' header to my address, but my mail server, running qmail (mine doesn't really) adds a 'Mail-Followup-To' header with the list address. Of course i don't use mutt (actually i do, but just suppose) so i have no easy way of overriding

Missing Mail-Followup-To

2001-12-04 Thread Thomas Hurst
I have set followup_to in my .muttrc, I have subscribe set (although only with the first part of the list name, i.e. cvs-all not [EMAIL PROTECTED] list-reply works fine, but for some reason mutt .24 isn't setting Mail-Followup-To. Is it only set in original mails, not replies? Hm, it is being

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Josh Huber
mail server, running qmail (mine doesn't really) adds a 'Mail-Followup-To' header with the list address. Of course i don't use mutt (actually i do, but just suppose) so i have no easy way of overriding this header. now when someone using an MUA that honors this header responds, it won't

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Will Yardley
Josh Huber wrote: Will Yardley writes: Er, a few points: 1) to have qmail generate the Mail-Followup-To header automatically, you must have a list of mailing lists for it to use, so unless you add addresses to this list, the header won't get generated. true, however if your admin

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-12-2001 21:22]: | Josh Huber wrote: | Will Yardley writes: | | Er, a few points: | | 1) to have qmail generate the Mail-Followup-To header automatically, | you must have a list of mailing lists for it to use, so unless you | add addresses

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread Will Yardley
Ren? Clerc wrote: I didn't check for group reply, but when I reply to your mail, it will be sent to you directly, and when I 'L'ist reply, as I'm doing now, it is sent to the list. Strange, I can't think of any directive that would cause this behaviour... yeah you're correct about 'reply'

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-12-2001 21:52]: | Ren? Clerc wrote: | | I didn't check for group reply, but when I reply to your mail, it will | be sent to you directly, and when I 'L'ist reply, as I'm doing now, it | is sent to the list. Strange, I can't think of any directive that |

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-12-2001 22:41]: [...] | besides, i don't think you had reply-to set on your message anyway... | hitting group-reply still honors MFT i'm pretty sure. You don't have to have a Reply-To header in order for group-reply to work, do you? -- René Clerc

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* Mark Sheppard [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-12-2001 22:11]: | | true, however if your admin were to add this list to the server (say for | | internal lists, or common lists) then you would have no way to change | | this (assuming you do not have root access on the machine). if it's | | your own

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* Samuel Padgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-12-2001 22:43]: | Mutt should generate the MFT header based on the people you've | included in the To: and Cc: headers. If you remove the improperly | Cc-ed individual from the Cc: header, Mutt should not put that | person in the MFT header. I completely

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
Something else that strikes me: my index 591 r Dec 04 Will Yardley ( 38) mq 592 s Dec 04 To Mutt Users( 74) mq 593 rs Dec 04 Mark Sheppard( 41) tq 594 S Dec 04 To Mutt Users( 50) x mq

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread David T-G
Rene -- ...and then Ren? Clerc said... % Something else that strikes me: Whack! % % my index % ... % 593 rs Dec 04 Mark Sheppard( 41) tq % 594 S Dec 04 To Mutt Users( 50) x mq % 595 S Dec 04 Will Yardley ( 42)

Re: mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-04 Thread René Clerc
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-12-2001 23:41]: | Rene -- | | ...and then Ren? Clerc said... (see below) | Did you postpone in the middle of that message? If you postpone, you | must be in the same mailbox when you recall and complete in order for the | flag to be properly updated. That

mail-followup-to standard....

2001-12-03 Thread Will Yardley
the only quasi-official reference i've been able to find on the Mail-Followup-To header is: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98dec/I-D/draft-ietf-drums-mail-followup-to-00.txt while i think that this becoming standard would be a Good Thing, since the draft is from 1997, it would seem unlikely

Re: Mail-Followup-To

2001-11-30 Thread Thorsten Haude
-To header, this is more widely honored than Mail-Followup-To. Ah. I guess they would hit group-reply anyway. It would be nice to, in addition to the option to set Mail-Followup-To, to be able to set Reply-To: to the list address automatically. Anything that helps cut down the dupes is Good[tm

Re: Mail-Followup-To

2001-11-30 Thread Thomas Hurst
reply' ie if the message comes from a known or subscribed list, and you hit reply or group-reply, mutt would say: reply to list y,n I wouldn't mind if mutt scanned the thread for Mail-Followup-To: headers and Cc:'d anyone who had it set to their address explicitly. If people off-list do

Re: Mail-Followup-To

2001-11-30 Thread Owner of many system processes
Thomas Hurst wrote: I wouldn't mind if mutt scanned the thread for Mail-Followup-To: headers and Cc:'d anyone who had it set to their address explicitly. If people off-list do this then, they get the message, but people on the list don't get dupes. i'm confused reply, group-reply

Re: Mail-Followup-To

2001-11-30 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-30 16:08]: I wouldn't mind if mutt scanned the thread for Mail-Followup-To: headers and Cc:'d anyone who had it set to their address explicitly. If people off-list do this then, they get the message, but people on the list don't get dupes. It does

Re: Mail-Followup-To

2001-11-30 Thread Samuel Padgett
not receive a message than 4 people receive two each. I always figured that, if it really annoys them, they should switch to an MUA that generates a Mail-Followup-To header (like Mutt) or one that handles duplicates really well (like Gnus). Sam

Re: Mail-Followup-To

2001-11-30 Thread Josh Huber
Samuel Padgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I always figured that, if it really annoys them, they should switch to an MUA that generates a Mail-Followup-To header (like Mutt) or -or Gnus- :) one that handles duplicates really well (like Gnus

Re: Bad Mail-Followup-To (was: mutt for blind computerusers)

2001-11-29 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Vincent! On Don, Nov 29, 2001 at 01:01:31 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Christian, Your Mail-Followup-To header is broken: Mail-Followup-To: Christian Schoepplein [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] as [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't exist, though your From header is correct. I

Re: Mail-Followup-To

2001-11-29 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Dairy Wall Limey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-29 01:11]: i don't want to have to start using unique addresses for internal lists too, but it messes up my organization when list messages get in my inbox (due to use of 'reply-all'). I don't understand the problem. Could you elaborate? Thorsten

Re: Mail-Followup-To

2001-11-29 Thread David T-G
Thorsten -- ...and then Thorsten Haude said... % Hi, Hello! BTW, I only just noticed your clever domain name -- cool! :-) % % * Dairy Wall Limey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-29 01:11]: % i don't want to have to start using unique addresses for internal lists % too, but it messes up my

Re: Mail-Followup-To

2001-11-29 Thread Thorsten Haude
could set the Reply-To header, this is more widely honored than Mail-Followup-To. Ah. I guess they would hit group-reply anyway. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

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