^From line?
Hi, Why do these lines starting with From keep turning up in the body. All lines beginning with the word From seem to end up like this. Some MTA/MDA along the way seems to be doing this. It isn't my procmail (at least nothing I've defined), so what does this ? More importantly, how do I get rid of it ? It affects readability quite a bit. Currently, I just use a display filter to get rid of it, but I'm sure there is a better way. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/ The Avis WIZARD decides if you get to drive a car. Your head won't touch the pillow of a Sheraton unless their computer says it's okay. -- Arthur Miller msg24365/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: People who don't wrap their lines
Hi, On Thu, 07 Feb 2002 Philip Mak spewed into the ether: I'm having trouble reading messages from people who don't wrap their lines. They have it so that one paragraph is a very long line, but it seems to cut off after about 255 characters, i.e. I can only see the first 255 characters of each line in the pager. Hmm .. It's never happened to me, and _most_ of my friends don't line-wrap. I can't reproduce this always, though. If I send a message to myself that has a very long line, it comes through fine. I think it might require certain MIME conditions. Don't think so. Just checked, and none of those mails have any special headers. Any idea what I'm talking about? I can forward a specific message that should cause these conditions. This is getting curiouser and curiouser :-) Anyway, if it really bugs you, you could create a display filter using perl's Text::Autoformat. Or, you could setup a message hook to use a different pager altogether (in case the former option is too slow). pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/ What this country needs is a good five cent ANYTHING! msg24337/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fetchmail to MTA to procmail (WAS Re: folders ?)
Hi, On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 Jeremy Blosser spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] You're missing the point. fetchmail is not involved when you use Mutt's built in POP fetch-mail function, even though the names are similar. That function just brings the mail directly into the folders, it bypasses the system's normal MTA/MDA system entirely. Oops. My bad. I didn't read the original post properly. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envy, n.: Wishing you'd been born with an unfair advantage, instead of having to try and acquire one. msg24124/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
replying to more than 1 message at a time
Hi, Was looking for some way by which I could tag a bunch of messages, and reply to all of them in one edit window. ie. 'tag-prefixreply' should run vim with all the tagged messages quoted one after another. Currently, I do this : - 'r'eply to one message - save the quoted text in a temp file - 'r'eply to another message - append the quoted text to the same temp file - 'r'eply to the 3rd message - read in the temp file - compose my reply to all 3 of them ... I think you get the picture. Is there a mutt-ish or vim-ish way of avoiding this kind of repetitive work ? pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] You're at Witt's End. msg24112/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
fetchmail to MTA to procmail (WAS Re: folders ?)
Hi, On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 Knute spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] fetchmail - MTA - procmail - folder(s) or am I missing something ? What I meant was that when you hit G for the default getmail function that mutt has, it doesn't run it thru procmail, it just gets it. And my question is, Why does it *not* run it through procmail ? Does this mean that fetchmail is writing to the spool folder ? AFAIK, fetchmail does not do that. Hence, I am guessing, fetchmail hands the mail over to your MTA, and your MTA doesn't pass the mail on to procmail. Could you check the mail headers and see whether fetchmail is handing over mail to the MTA or not. I wish I could check this functionality myself, but I don't have fetchmail installed right now, and am feeling too lazy to install it ;-) pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remember Darwin; building a better mousetrap merely results in smarter mice. msg24054/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Moving (not saving) a message to another folder
Hi, On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 Philip Mak spewed into the ether: On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 07:25:41PM +0100, Adam Byrtek wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 01:03:32PM -0500, Philip Mak wrote: So, it makes sense for me to keep my inbox clean so that it only contains messages that I still have to do something about. Any messages that I have finished, I move them into my done folder. folder-hook mbox macro index d 'save-message=archive\n' 'archive message' folder-hook mbox macro pager d 'save-message=archive\n' 'archive message' But I'm not sure is this what are you looking for. If you want to, you could add 'synchronize' at the end of this macro, but I prefer not to - I tend to delete sometimes some mail by mistake. That's not quite what I wanted to do. I wouldn't want to save *every* message to the archive (some messages are not useful to keep around, e.g. spam etc.). Well, you could use the same idea, but just map it to a different key, then. ie. macro index some-unbound-key 'save-message=archive\nsync-mailbox' Alternatively, you could map some commonly used key (like space or 'r'eply), to sync the mailbox, before performing their default operation. ie : macro index space 'sync-mailboxdisplay-message' Both these are untested, but this problem seems like something that can be achieved using the already existing macros/hooks available in mutt. IMHO, you don't need to implement a patch. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] One way to stop a runaway horse is to bet on him.
Re: folders ?
Hi, On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 Knute spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] There are others, but procmail is what i use with fetchmail, and it seems to work well for me. The one thing that I have found is that Mutt's own getmail function doesn't send it thru procmail. Don't know how to change that, so I simply set up a macro to run fetchmail. 8o) Hmm .. I thought fetchmail injected things into your MTA. So, it should have the same route as if you called it from the command-line. ie : fetchmail - MTA - procmail - folder(s) or am I missing something ? pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Think sideways! -- Ed De Bono msg24008/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: rewriting message stautus
Hi, On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 Jeremy Blosser spewed into the ether: On Jan 28, Nicholas A. Martini [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: does anyone know how to make mutt show messages from yoursef (or another address) show up as read, or not new, or something? it would be handy for high-volume lists. depends... if you mean to do it at any given time, use: T (tag-pattern) some pattern (see the manual...mails from yourself would be ~P) enter ; (tag-prefix) W (clear-flag) N And you could 'push' this entire macro everytime you enter said folder. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm having a BIG BANG THEORY!!
Re: available MDA's: are you satisfied?
Hi, On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 Roman Neuhauser spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] I'm slowly getting the picture of the classes that would make this happen, and would like to ask you: is there something that you sorely lack in your favorite MDA? What is it? Any feedback is much appreciated. Just saw this. Haven't tested it, but I thought it might interest you : http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/pycmail.html I might try figuring it out tomorrow. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] The person who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything. msg23891/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: available MDA's: are you satisfied?
Hi, On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 Mathias Gygax spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] i'm subscribed to over 150 mailing lists and get over 1700 mails a day. Holy crap !! How do you cope ? I can't even manage the 200-250 mails I get everyday :-) pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Death has been proven to be 99% fatal in laboratory rats. msg23827/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: message filtering in mutt
Hi, On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 Mike Schiraldi spewed into the ether: I've written patch which brings message filtering to mutt. Once applied, you can press EscF from within mutt to begin the process of setting up mail filters. The patch is short, so i've attached in inline: ROTFL !! That was good :-) pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] The wages of sin are death; but after they're done taking out taxes, it's just a tired feeling: msg23767/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: prevent signature on reply
Hi, On Thu, 03 Jan 2002 Anh Lai spewed into the ether: how do i keep adding my signature when replying? I would like to add it only when composing a new messgae. Having my signature collect on the bottom gets annoying sometimes. Maybe by rebinding the 'r'eply key. Like so (untested) : macro pager r enter-commandunset signature.sh\nreply macro pager m enter-commandset signature='~/.mutt/signature'\nmail pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich. -- Looney Tunes, Ali Baba Bunny (1957, Chuck Jones) msg23768/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: available MDA's: are you satisfied?
Hi, On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 Roman Neuhauser spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] I'm slowly getting the picture of the classes that would make this happen, and would like to ask you: is there something that you sorely lack in your favorite MDA? What is it? Currently, I use procmail ( I've never used maildrop ), and I wish it's syntax were a bit more like perl's. I find it's current regexp handling kinda cumbersome, and have reverted to piping my mails into perl scripts more than once in the past. Anyway, do post some results, setup a mailing list if you can, and you can count me in ! pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is more to life than increasing its speed. -- Mahatma Gandhi msg23770/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: statistics
Hi, On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 Francis A. Holop spewed into the ether: hello, the outgoing mail could be counted somehow using mutt's capabilities and that's why Well, as David pointed out, you could just increment a counter, but I prefer mailstat's output, as it shows me what procmail has been upto behind my back ;-) thanks for the ideas, but procmail is just incoming, isn't it? what about outgoing? Ups :-) Yeah, out-going will have to be through a counter script. Maybe you could bind 'y' (send-message) to that script like so : macro compose y shell-escape/path/to/script\rsend-message pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just got my PRINCE bumper sticker ... But now I can't remember WHO he is ...
Re: mailinglist-prefix in index_format
Hi, On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 Hanspeter Roth spewed into the ether: Some mailinglists prefix every subject with the name of the list. Is it possible to suppress this prefix in the index_format? How? Or is this a case for procmail? This works for me : http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/files/subject_tag_remove.pl I run this through procmail like so : # Removing ML subject tags :0 hfw * ^Subject:.*\[.*\].* | perl ~/.mutt/subject_tag_remove.pl pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think, therefore I am... I think. msg23631/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: List of 3rd party apps for Mutt
Hi Jeremy and others, http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/mutt.html is back up after a long hiatus. Sorry, but I was having trouble ssh-ing to the server, and was too busy to figure it out :-( Anyway, I will update it as and when something cool turns up. Meanwhile, do send in links to apps you use(d) and like(d). pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you will practice being fictional for a while, you will understand that fictional characters are sometimes more real than people with bodies and heartbeats. msg23453/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: grepm
Hi, On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 David T-G spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] I can see entering a pattern for which to grep, but do you also have to enter the mailbox through which to look? In other words, is this just a hotkey that starts your grepm command, or does it somehow tie to the box you're reading at the moment? No. I changed grepm.sh to search for all the files under my ~/Email directory :-) pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Living in LA is like not having a date on Saturday night. -- Candice Bergen msg23401/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: rejected mail
Hi, On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 Aaron Schrab spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] No, that's just his local MTA listing where it got the message from. There's likely no way to change the value there, since it would likely always use the login name of the invoking user, and localhost since it's getting the message from a pipe rather than via SMTP. This value would not be passed to the recipient's mail server in anyway. Actually, it might be sent in a Received: header, but the message is rejected before the local MTA has a chance to send any of the headers. Try setting 'envelope_from' in your muttrc. The envelope from is already being set fine (at least it's not obiously wrong, and is in a domain that exists). See the MAIL From: line quoted in the original message. Oops ! You're right. Replied too fast to that one, without reading the transcript properly. Sorry :-( Well, then, I guess Todd will just have to contact the sys-admin and figure out what the 'policy' is. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll defend to the death your right to say that, but I never said I'd listen to it! -- Tom Galloway with apologies to Voltaire msg23402/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Handling high volume mailing lists - looking for ideas
Hi, On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 Cameron Simpson spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] I keep my mail in MH folders, so I can find old messages by find folder-dir -mtime +7 -print I roll a couple of folders nightly into folder-old with cron. Obviously this doesn't work so well for the other folder types. Yup. Me use mbox. Anyway, it's just a matter of using some funky pattern matching. Will do it tonight, I 'spose. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] A king's castle is his home. msg23309/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: grepm
Hi, On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 Michael Montagne spewed into the ether: I was just reading about grepmail and was led to a wrapper for it specifically for mutt called grepm. Sounds like something that might be neat. After installing the software, how do I implement it in mutt? thanks. I have this in my muttrc : macro generic f7 shell-escape~/.mutt/grepm.sh So, when I hit f7, it waits for a pattern. Once I enter the pattern, and hit enter, it dumps all matching messages into a temporary mailbox, and calls mutt on that mailbox. It's a beauty, IMHO :-) pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] You just wait, I'll sin till I blow up! -- Dylan Thomas msg23310/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MTA for home network
Hi, On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: I've just finished setting up my a server for my home network. Fetchmail downloads all messages from pop3 server of my ISP - postfix sends received data to maildrop - finally messages got to my courier IMAP server. That's my server mail delivery scheme. On my workstation I recompiled mutt with imapssl support. Reading mail is fine, but when I want to send a message mutt shows me error 127 - from my previous experience it means that sendmail binary is not found (and that's absolutely correct, it's not installed :) ) I need your advice: what MTA shall I install for that easy task of sending outgoing mail to postfix running on my local server? Sure thing, I don't want any sendmail/qmail/postfix for that, but I've seen several minimalistic servers on freshmeat - perhaps someone could gimme a piece of advice on that issue? I've recently hacked up a bunch of python scripts which I use to queue all out-going mails and send them through my ISP's smart-host. If you are interested, let me know, and I'll put it up somewhere for you. This, of course, works for my single-user home machine connecting to the net through a dial-up link. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I went to the museum where they had all the heads and arms from the statues that are in all the other museums. -- Steven Wright msg23311/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to pipe attachment to netscape?
Hi, On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 Charles Jie spewed into the ether: Previously I have this in my .mailcap: text/html; netscape -remote openfile\\(%s\\) But I change to use this for speed: text/html; lynx %s; nametemplate=%s.html * I still want to view the attachment with netscape as an alternative if it's worth the effort. I plan to have a macro to do it. But could I use pipe? (I see the problem with %s.) Is there any trick for it? Not sure about netscape, but I have this in my mailcap : text/html; konqueror %s; test=runningX.sh text/html; lynx -force_html %s text/html; w3m -S -F -dump -T text/html %s; copiousoutput * And strange, now my lynx just show the source content of html instead of the previous formated view. What's wrong? :-( Maybe the -force_html flag is required ? pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Economists state their GNP growth projections to the nearest tenth of a percentage point to prove they have a sense of humor. -- Edgar R. Fiedler msg23313/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: statistics
Hi, On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 Francis A. Holop spewed into the ether: hello, no links on mutt.org for mailing list archives so i'll just ask my question... i was thinking about counting every single mail i send and get. kind of silly statistics that could amaze me when i'm 70. *grin* This isn't a mutt solution, but if you use procmail it is kinda nifty. Put the following into your .procmailrc : LOGFILE=/path/to/logfile Any ol' procmail should come with a program called 'mailstat'. Running this : $ mailstat -k /path/to/logfile should show you what you want. It also shows you which mails have been filtered into which boxes by procmail, and a final total. one way i was thinking to do this was: for the incoming mail use procmail and a generic all matching rule which would than increase a variable somewhere. Well, apparently you _are_ using procmail ... the outgoing mail could be counted somehow using mutt's capabilities and that's why Well, as David pointed out, you could just increment a counter, but I prefer mailstat's output, as it shows me what procmail has been upto behind my back ;-) pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] pediddel: A car with only one working headlight. -- Sniglets, Rich Hall Friends msg23314/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: a little OT...
Hi, On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 Nick Wilson spewed into the ether: Hi everyone. A little oddity for you; I just upgraded the editor I use to Vim6 and 15mins ago it appeared to be coloring my messages (putting the text to a ghastly purple). as I wrote them. However, as I started to write this one it stopped. Does anyone know what might be going on? No, but this might help. Here is a function by Chip Campbell, which can tell you the colour 'type' (don't know what you call it in Vim-speak) of a the cword. function! HiCheck() let i = hi let i = i . synIDattr(synID(line(.),col(.),1),name) let i = i . trans let i = i . synIDattr(synID(line(.),col(.),0),name) let i = i . lo let i = i . synIDattr(synIDtrans(synID(line(.),col(.),1)),name) let i = i . :echo i endfunction I have this in my .vimrc : nmap F6:call HiCheck()CR So, you could just put the cursor under the offending word, hit f6, and voila!, you know what syntax region it's part of. Then, you could find your way through $VIMRUNTIME/syntax/mail.vim, and figure out why the said regexp is being matched. You could, optionally, cook up your own syntax file, and use that instead, so you don't have to go through such rude shocks ;-) Ok, this was waaay OT, so I should stop now before I get kicked off the list :-) pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] The farther you go, the less you know. -- Lao Tsu, Tao Te Ching msg23315/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Handling high volume mailing lists - looking for ideas
Hi, Just got back on the list, so a 'Hi' to everyone :-) On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 Balazs Javor spewed into the ether: I'am looking for tips/ideas on how to best manage subscriptions to multiple high volume mailing lists. Here's my current setup: [-- snip --] Ok, I'll give you my setup : * procmail archives all incoming mail into folders based on list-name, and year/month. * procmail also dumps all mail into list folder (automagically :-) * I go through each folder, and _delete_ all threads that don't seem interesting. This way, I don't have to bother about Mutt archiving anything, as procmail does it for me. Later, when I have to, I use grepmail to search my archive folders to see if the question I'm asking has come up before. Something I haven't yet done is to setup macros to look for threads older than, say, one week, and remove them automatically when I exit a folder. This will keep the folder size down. Currently I do this manually when I'm feeling bored. (On a side note: New messages are colored in a different color in the index fairly easily, but is there a way to color also the top message of each thread if there are new messages in the thread, so that it is visible at one glance even if the treads are collapsed?) You could do something like this : color index red black '~v ~U' # Collapsed and Unread But, the problem is, if the first message in the thread is 'read', the entire thread is marked as 'read'. ie. it doesn't get coloured 'red' (No pun intended ;-) Hope I've been clear enough. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] When you dig another out of trouble, you've got a place to bury your own. msg23216/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: virus
Hi, On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 Carl B . Constantine spewed into the ether: Some nut is actually using Outlook for this list. I just got an email in response to one I posted from [EMAIL PROTECTED] that had a virus attached to it (.mp3.pif). Something similar happened on another list I'm on, and the diagnosis was : - Somebody using a Windows machine is on the list - That machine is infected with W32/Badtrans.B@mm - It uses MAPI - Only people who post to the list get hit, cos it harvests addresses from the mailbox(es) and addressbook. So, the 'nut' may be just an innocent (?) Windows user ;-) If you've saved the mail, just grep through the headers, and look for the originating IP. Chances are, it will be already black-listed by at least a few people. Otherwise, you could consider taking serious action against the bugger. pv. ps. Is there a mutt port running on Windows ? In which case (s)he might be an innocent mutt-user :-) -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old age is always fifteen years old than I am. -- B. Baruch msg23263/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
$display_filter perl script
Hi, [ Note: I am no longer subscribed to this list, so please Cc me on any followups ] I've attached a script to be used as a $display_filter. It is an extension of the quotefix ruby script Thomas Hurst posted sometime back. It is my first attempt at perl, so it _will_ get better over time. But, I thought some of you may be interested in it. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Batteries not included. display_filter.pl Description: Perl program msg22033/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: filters
Hi, On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 giorgian spewed into the ether: hi all, i have been using mutt for three days, and there are tons of things i haven't figured out yet. i haven't found anything in the man pages about mail filters; initially i decided to try procmail, but it is decisely too much insane for me: i'm a member of at least 15 MLs (plus this one :) ), and my .procmailrc is an awful mess, so i gave up. Check out : http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/files/procmailrc pv. -- Regression analysis: Mathematical techniques for trying to understand why things are getting worse. -- msg21770/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sending mails problem
Hi, On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 Sanjay Acharya spewed into the ether: hi i am trying to configure my mutt...i am able to receive my mails but when i send mails, i dont get the mails. do i hacve to configure my sendmail? if yes what shud i do? No, you can get postfix ;-) http://www.postfix.org pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21726/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: utf-8 display problem index vs. pager
Hi, On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 Stephan Seitz spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] PS: How do you call w3m to display html mails? mailcap text/html; w3m -T text/html %s /mailcap You could also add a 'copiousoutput' at the end of that, and set auto_view text/html in your muttrc to put w3m's output into your pager. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21727/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Editor colors
Hi, On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 Michael Montagne spewed into the ether: I know how to set colors in the pager while reading email, but where do you set colors for the editor (vim in my case)? :set ft=mail :syn on You might also want to take a look at these : http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/files/mail_syntax.vim Syntax http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/files/mail.vim Mappings pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21576/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Negative scores and regexp questions
Hi, On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 Christian Ordig spewed into the ether: On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 09:19:01PM +0530, Prahlad Vaidyanathan wrote: Is anyone here an 'active scorer' ? Do point us mortals to some good docs please ;-) manual.txt coming with mutt ;-) Well, that doesn't have anything on what scoring is, and why one would use it, does it ? or do I have the abridged version ? ;-) pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21588/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Empty mails without body or subject
Hi, Wow ! This is the first time I've seen a mail to the cs.hmc.edu address. Please send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 Balazs Javor spewed into the ether: Hi, I'm getting a lot of mails novadays which have no subject and no body at all. They all seem to come from various mailing list I'm subscribed to, nut mostly from debian-users and linux-kernel. Also all of them seem to have a bounce address of that list in the From headers. e.g bounce-debian-user... or owner-linux-kernel... I've read once somewhere, that sometimes the MUA might separate one message into two, but I don't remember the datails. Also if this is the case, should I not have the other halves somewhere? No idea what you're talking about. I'm using procmail to filter mail from mailing lists to their own folders, but these messages end up in my spool folder, so it's hard to see if there is another 'half' somewhere... Easiest would be to put in the following lines into you procmailrc : VERBOSE=on LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmail/log.`date +%m-%y` and then look through your log files. I also take the additional precaution of archiving my mails and their headers *before* any of the recipes. So, just in case a recipe fails (you never know), I always have my mails in my archive file. Does anybody have any ideas what might be the cause or how to investigate? You could also look through the Message-Id headers to see if it some weird loop. Though, by the look of it, there doesn't seem to be any. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21524/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Negative scores and regexp questions
Hi, On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 David T-G spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] I'm in the same boat, in fact :-) What we really need is for active scorers to reply! From what you say it seems like a real neat idea, but unfortunately I haven't found any docs on it (Maybe I just haven't looked hard enough) Is anyone here an 'active scorer' ? Do point us mortals to some good docs please ;-) pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21536/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Open tar.gz /tgz, bz2 with mutt
Hi, On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 Abu spewed into the ether: I want open file (tar.gz,tgz,bz2) on the fly with mutt, like open .pdf file, how can i do it with mutt? Dave Pearson has a neat mutt.octet.filter here : http://www.davep.org/mutt/ I find it quite cool :-) pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21496/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Strange characters. (encoding?)
Hi, On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 Brian Clark spewed into the ether: Can some kind soul point me to the docs I need to read to figure out why I see things like this: \251 allie\260M In some messages? \260 is the degree symbol and \251 is the copyright symbol, I think. Check your locale settings, esp. $LANG, and $LC_ALL. In my case : $ locale LANG=en LC_CTYPE=en_US LC_NUMERIC=en_US LC_TIME=en_US LC_COLLATE=en_US LC_MONETARY=en_US LC_MESSAGES=en_US LC_PAPER=en_US LC_NAME=en_US LC_ADDRESS=en_US LC_TELEPHONE=en_US LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US LC_ALL=en_US This question came up on the list recently - check the archives. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21453/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: key binding problem
Hi,
On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 Benjamin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether:
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The macros work great except for when I view an individual attacment
('v' to get to view-attachments menu, 'Return' to display message
attachment). In this case, the macro is still active since the
attachment is viewed with the pager. When I hit 'd' to delete the
message, I'm asked if I want to overwrite, append or cancel, but it does
not indicate the filename. It turns out it is my trash file. When I
overwrite or append, the trash file is no longer a mailbox since it has
a message body with no header.
Is it possible to avoid this?
Try the trash_folder patch.
pv.
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patch-1.3.23.dgc.markmsg.2 seg-fault
Hi, Today seems to be a bad day for my mutt ... I have applied the above patch (which is real cool, BTW :-), but there is one hassle. If the said folder has no messages, and I hit mark-message, bound by default to '~', Mutt dies with a Segmentation fault (SIGSEGV signal). Is this a bug ? Is there a fix ? $ mutt -v Mutt 1.3.23.2i (2001-11-08) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.4.3-20mdk (i686) [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_POP -USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +COMPRESSED +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET ++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID -HAVE_GETADDRINFO -ISPELL SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility. vvv.quote vvv.initials patch-1.3.15.sw.pgp-outlook.1 patch-1.3.2609.mg.hdrcolor.1 patch-1.3.22.1.cd.trash_folder patch-1.3.23.bj.current_shortcut.1 patch-1.3.23.dgc.attach.2 patch-1.3.23.dgc.markmsg.2 patch-1.3.23.dgc.unbind.1 patch-1.3.23.rr.compressed.2 patch-1.3.24.cd.edit_threads.8 patch.color-questions patch.tag-prefix-condition pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21353/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Quoting when replying
Hi, On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 Slava Pechenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: Hello Mutt Users, I am trying to make Mutt quote my replies in the following smart way: if original email is from Tom Buddy then quote string must be TB . Firstly, IMHO, it is not a very good idea to change the quoting string from it's default value (Although it is commong practice). Anyway, you could look for the vvv.initials patch here : http://mutt.kiev.ua/download/ That gives you the options of putting the initials of a person into your $attribution, and $indent_string. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21354/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A couple of probably dumb questions :)
Hi, On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] Anyhow, I'm on a couple of mailing lists and am beginning to find that my inbox is getting quite full. What program is the best to use for sorting my incoming messages into different folders? I've heard that Procmail is user-hell, but I know people who swear by it. Is there a better program to use, or is Procmail the software? You might also want to take a look at the following : http://www.ghettohack.net/~timball http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/files/procmailrc pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21330/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Email HowTo [was: Re: Searching big gobs of e-mail]
Hi, On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] So... I would really like to get some info from others: what parts of mutt's documentation have you found lacking? What are your patterns of use of mutt, and did you have hard time setting it up the way you wanted, or was everything you needed obvious from the manual? Not really - here are some stuff I thought was lacking : - Scoring - A list of apps to be used in the mailcap file .I've tried to collate whatever I could find at http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/mutt.html. - A verbose .rc file, like the one Sven Guckes has for vim (Is there something like this for Mutt too ? ). This is, admittedly, a luxury, but it will help smoothen out the learning curve. - Some notes on email etiquette : sig-dashes, mail-followup-to, etc. That's my 2c. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21265/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug Report
Hi, On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snipped out 3460 lines !! --] 2 things - * Please don't send such big attachments on the list. If you want everyone to read a file, just put it up somewhere and post the link. I have a dialup connection to the net, and it cries. In this case especially, it seems as though the 2 files you have attached are the default rc files supplied in the mutt package. If that is so, then I'm sure _everyone_ here has them locally - so why post it ? * Secondly, Why is your Mail-Followup-To header @localhost.localdomain ? pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21267/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Searching big gobs of e-mail
Hi, On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 David [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] You might check out http://mutt-newbie.sourceforge.net Is this project still working ? I just checked out the page, and the list has _very_ low activity. If the maintainer(s) are on the list, do reply. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21268/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fast way to folder browser
Hi, On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 Nils [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] However, I would like to know if there is a way to make c bring me right into the folder browser, without asking me to enter a mailbox name or pressing ?. From my muttrc : macro index left c?tab View the mailboxes list pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21185/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newbie: gpg confusion, various shell commands
Hi, On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] I'm looking at mutt to see if it can potentially be a replacement for Eudora (which sucks horribly but sucks far less than any other mail client I've tried). Pun intended ? ;-) pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21186/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: patch-1.3.23.cd.edit_threads-6[.CYA] not working
Hi, On Tue, 04 Dec 2001 Cedric [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: * Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11/30/01 17:39]: Or wait a little... I will rewrite the patch so that it can work along with the new threading code. Done. I'll take the latter option. Thanks ! You'll find the patch updated for the new threading implementation at http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/ Works like a charm ! Thanks ! pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21098/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: $attribution/$post_indent_string for new mail
Hi, On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 Volker [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: Thorsten Haude wrote: I could send you a NEdit solution that could be changed to do what you want. Thanks, but I use emacs. [-- snip --] And the reason my $EDITOR can't do it completely is to do the %n thing (like in $attribution). Another reason to think that mutt can help me. Just edit your headers, and put in a macro to do this in your editor. It's quite easy under Vim (*grin*) : :2co /^$/ | :s/.*\:\ // | :s/.*// This is assuming you want to put the name in right under the headers. I'm sure something similar should be possible for Emacs. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg21135/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Script to rebuild quotes
Hi,
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether:
[-- snip --]
Initial perl version at:
http://freak.aagh.net/code/quotefix.pl
Does this grok ^http: and stuff ? Doesn't seem to do it here. So, what
I did was, I converted the regexp it looks for into the $quote_regexp in
my .muttrc, with a few changes.
snip
while ($line =~ /^(--)|^([ \t]*[(A-Z){0,2}|(a-z){0,6}]+)|^([ \t\]*[|}%])+/
/snip
Another thing is, the Super-quotes, like ^ AA, always seem to end
in , and not in [|}%], etc. This could possible be changed by some
sadistic people, but for now, I've omitted everything but .
Also, this is something that comes up often in display filtering :
When stripping of trailing white-spaces, don't strip off the white-space
after the sig-dashes. Or, better yet, do this, before printing $line :
$line =~ s/^--$/-- /;
Anyway, great work ! But, unfortunately, the quest for the perfect
quote_regexp seems never-ending :-(
pv.
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Re: GPG, sign encrypt
Hi, On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 René [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: * Markus Boelter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [30-11-2001 11:22]: | I'm using mutt and gpg. I want to sign each message with gpg. But: | Is it possible to exclude some persons which get mails are not signed? I do it the other way around: by default, I don't sign any message. And then define persons to which mails _do_ have to be signed. This because the vast majority of my recipients probably thinks pgp is some sort of automobile ;) *grin* Yes, I think most of us have, at one time or another, received a mail saying 'What was the attachment you sent me ?'. So, it may not be a good idea to sign _all_ mails. | Can I use the hooks vor this? I don't wont to press p after writing | an message an than choose nothing - I should sign or not sign | automatically mails :) My settings : muttrc send-hook . set pgp_autosign=no # Default send-hook ~l set pgp_autosign=yes send-hook ilugc set pgp_autosign=no # listar@aero mangles it /muttrc pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20851/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: patch-1.3.23.cd.edit_threads-6[.CYA] not working
Hi, On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 Cedric [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: Hi Prahlad, Any clues as to why this is happening ? This patch could be _very_ useful ... if only I can get it to work :-( this patch is closely tied to the threading code. Ahhh - that explains it ! In the 1.3.23.1 release, this part of the Mutt code has been almost completely rewritten by Daniel Eisenbud in an effort to improve its efficiency. Thus the edit_threads patch won't apply anymore. If you want to use it, you should use Mutt 1.3.23. Or wait a little... I will rewrite the patch so that it can work along with the new threading code. I'll take the latter option. Thanks ! pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20852/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Apologies for GPG hassle (WAS Re: Script to rebuild quotes)
Hi, On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 Lars [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: Signing list email is a complete useless exercise and wastes my time if your key is not on any key servers (and yes, I tried several, just in case). Am a bit new to the whole concept of encryption, so I apologize for the trouble I've caused. I've now put my key onto www.keyserver.net. I think I've done it right, because when I searched for myself, I found me. Have also got hold of some literature, so I will RTFM over the next couple of days. Meanwhile, I'll also try to pry out my foot from my immensely accomodating mouth :-) Oh, and Steve Kennedy, I believe that's my key that gpg can't check. Try now, it should be alright. Sorry again. NOT signing off, pv. PS: If anyone knows of any good reading material, do point it me off-list. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! --
Re: New Mutt User Question
Hi, On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 Thorsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] No incoming mailboxes defined. Huh? What am I doing wrong? Nothing that I know of, but you leave something out: mailboxes `find /path/to/my/directory/of/mailboxes -type f -print | grep -Ev '(log|backup|sent|postponed|trash)' | xargs` Ahh .. neato ! earlier I had : mailboxes `find ~/Email -maxdepth 1 -type f ! -name sent-mail ! -name postponed -printf %p ` But, that becomes way too tedious as the list increases. The egrep/xargs combination works wonderfully. Thanks :-) Somebody asked me about the xarg, and I couldn't really say whether Mutt accepts one mailbox per line. I never tried: Never change a running system. Yes, xargs just echoes them one-by-one, I guess. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20812/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: patches (colored questions, conditional tag-prefix)
Hi, On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 christophe [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] Any solutions ? Implement a tag-thread-pattern. That's what I intent to do as soon I find time for it. Do post your results. Please Prahlad, upload your gpg key. http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/files/pgpkey.asc Key fingerprint = 6537 4A5F E875 71AD 10B3 9D87 20A8 6339 2125 BB86 pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20813/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Trailing Lines
Hi, On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 dallam [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: Silly question that I need an answer to. I seem to have *lots* of trailing lines when I post or reply, how do I correct this? In Vim, :g/^$/d That will remove _all_ blank lines, so you will just have to add them where they occur in the body of your mail. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20814/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
patch-1.3.23.cd.edit_threads-6[.CYA] not working
Hi, Just got the above patch from David T-G's mutt-build-cocktail, but it doesn't work for me. make barfs on me giving errors like so : snipped out for brevity thread.c: In function `clean_references': thread.c:1233: structure has no member named `next' thread.c:1233: warning: left-hand operand of comma expression has no effect thread.c:1236: structure has no member named `child' thread.c:1241: structure has no member named `parent' thread.c:1254: structure has no member named `refs_changed' . . . thread.c: At top level: thread.c:1358: redefinition of `mutt_link_threads' thread.c:1285: `mutt_link_threads' previously defined here make[2]: *** [thread.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/prahlad/mutt' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/prahlad/mutt' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 /snipped It gives similar errors in the functions 'mutt_break_threads', 'link_threads', etc. Has anyone applied this patch successfully ? Any clues as to why this is happening ? This patch could be _very_ useful ... if only I can get it to work :-( pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20815/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Limiting max text width
Hi, On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 Odhiambo [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: A quick and dumb one: How do I limit my e-mails to 70 cols in .muttrc?? I want lines to wrap auto at 70. I don't see a setting for that. Maybe a $display_filter pointing to a perl/python script ? But, IMHO, this could be a dangerous option for mails in which the author has not put line-breaks intentionally - for eg. looong commands, which extend over lines should not be wrapped. I prefer smart_wrap, and markers options in my muttrc.But, any case, post your results. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20816/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: highlight flaged messages
Hi, On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 David [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: Dragos -- ...and then Dragos_C said... % Sorry, but color index brightblue white ~N (example) has no effect for % highlighting mailboxes with unread messages. Another question: I wish to I don't use the browser much, but you probably want color browser brightblue white ~N AFAIK, the browser cannot be coloured. Just tried this, and mutt gives an error to that effect. The only coloring you can do is in the index and the pager. Anyway, if you have new mail in your folder, the browser will show you an 'N' next to your folder-name, if your $folder_format has a '%N' in it somewhere - so there isn't much point in colouring it. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20729/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: patches (colored questions, conditional tag-prefix)
Hi, I saw this thread just today - must've overlooked it the first time it came around. The reason I'm bringing it up again is that the problem at hand has not been solved. On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 christophe [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] I should add, this works also for push commands (and it seems to work for exec). I use the following in my .muttrc: folder-hook regex for all mailing list folders push \tag-pattern~d2w\nuntag-pattern~F|~D\ntag-prefix-condsave-message\n\n\ It moves all messages older than 2 weeks except flagged ones to an archive folder (I have other folder-hooks to set appropriate save-hooks). This is nearly what I would like to do except that I would like to keep thread together. ie I would like to move thread with all mails older than X days, read and not flagged. I want to setup a macro that does this : 1. Tag all messages older than, say, 2 weeks 2. Tag entire threads of those messages, even if some messages in that thread are newer than 2 weeks. 3. Delete/Save tagged messages. 1, and 3 seem possible, but 2 does not. So far I've been doing it manually, but as I subscribe to more and more lists it becomes increasingly tedious. Any solutions ? pv. PS: Sorry for raking up _old_ threads, but I just desperately need this one to work ! -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20737/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [ Update ] List of 3rd party apps for Mutt
Hi, On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 René [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: * Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20-11-2001 15:36]: | Hi, | | Finally got around to updating it : | | http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/mutt.html | | Feedback ? Looks nice! You could consider adding the text-based browser links. IMO, this is the best alternative for lynx. It supports frames! Ah, Thanks ! Am a little busy right now, but will add it ASAP. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20635/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Signature not coloured !
Hi, Just noticed today, that the signature in the pager is no longer coloured. I distinctly remember it used to be coloured, but, for some reason, it is now shown as any other part of the body. I recompiled Mutt a few times in the last few days, and somewhere along the way I seem to have mucked something up - but I can't, for the life of me, figure out what has happened. The last time I compiled, here is what I did : $ ./configure --with-curses --enable-pop --with-included-gettext $ make ; make install There are the same options I gave when I first compiled Mutt a few months back, and I distinctly remember everything being hunky dory then. Can anyone figure out what is wrong ? And no, I don't remember _exactly_ when it has stopped colouring the sig, but I just noticed it. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20638/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fcc folder new mail notification
Hi, On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 René [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] But, however, when I am _not_ in my friends folder, and send mail to that friend, Mutt thinks that I have new mail in that folder. Of course (, Rob, ;-) Mutt is right in thinking that, but it does confuse me a bit (whow, a reply *that* fast?). What's a reasonable workaround for this? AFAIK, there isn't. Even if there was, it wouldn't really be a feasable option. Because, what you are in effect asking for is for Mutt to look into your folder, see if the mail is from you or not, and accordingly tell you (in the browser) if it has new mail or not. That would involve quite a bit of unnecessary overhead, especially if the said folder is a particularly big one. Even if you did setup a macro to do that, you would have to _enter_ the folder, and hence the browser will not show you if you have new mail in that folder no matter who sent it - Yes, now we're back to the 'New vs. Unread mail' debate :-) Your best option I guess, would be to just put your sent mail into a 'sent-mail.friends-name' folder, or some such, and exclude this from your 'mailboxes' list. HTH, pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20639/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[ Update ] List of 3rd party apps for Mutt
Hi, Finally got around to updating it : http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/mutt.html Feedback ? pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20589/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Toggle display of signature
Hi, Is there a way to toggle the display of a signature in an Email - Same as the '\' key in SLRN ? 2 reasons : 1. Mailing lists append customary sigs which one doesn't have to read for _every_ mail. 2. Misanthropic freaks who have 20 line sigs. If there is no builtin way of doing this, I guess a display_filter will have to be implemented ... and I'm feeling too lazy right now :-) pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20582/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Vim colors?
Hi, Kind of OT, but I couldn't help a shameles plug for Vim :-) On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: Thanks for all the help everyone has given so far. I finally downloaded and installed vim, and set it up as the editor. I've been looking around for color config info...anyone have a favorite site, or a configuration file to share? You should find mine here, along with other vim stuff : http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/vim.html BTW, check out this one for more config files, and the like : http://www.vim.org/user.html pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! --
Re: help
Hi, On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 Bela [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: Hi, i thought my mail problems was solved, but i was wrong, i realize that mutt use pop3 protocol to recive my emails (execellent) but it DOES use my local sendmail, please, I am looking for a email client that ONLY uses imap or pop3 for sending and reciving, like netscape or mozilla mail but that can be execute without X-windows. AFAIK, POP3 and IMAP are purely for email retreival. Sending will _have_ to be through your MTA. I dont like to use my local sendmail!!!, Sendmail is not all _that_ ungainly a beast - I quite like it really. i have an offline machine, i just want to connect to internet, on console, execute a program, fetch email , read and send mail using ONLY pop3 or imap, is that posible on a modem unix like os such as freebsd ? is posible to set up mutt in order to use only pop3 or imap for sending and reciving? this is the realation i want: console X-windows nestcapelynx wordperfectvi/ee/pico netscape-mail what goes here?HELP! Retreival : fetchmail Filtering : procmail Reading : mutt Sending : Sendmail/Postfix/Exim/insert fav MTA here Note : you will have to setup a 'SmartHost' for your offline machine, so all mails are sent to another machine with DNS for sending. Hope this helps. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20553/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt an multiple mailboxes
Hi, Check for 'mbox-hook's in the Manual. pv. On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 Markus [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: Hi! I've a wish how mutt should handle my mails and I don't know how to realize this. I'm subscribed in several mailinglists and so my mbox grow's up. One solution is to use procmail - but now my wish: I want to get *every* new mail into /var/spool/mail/lordbyte. So this does my MTA. Now I want to start mutt and read all my new eMails an set flags like read to my mails. Now - when I quit mutt, I want the mails to be sorted in mailfolders. One idea was to define my mbox to smth. like | formail -s procmail \ /var/spool/mail/lordbyte. But this doesn't work. A second Idea was to define a macro wich sould do this job, but if I move mails with procmail mutt looses the flags. So - is in mutt any possibility to sort mails automatically? (I know save-hooks - but then I have to push s return for every mail. Thanks! Markus -- .o--=[ eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]=-=[ internet: www.ce-terra.de ]=o. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! --
Re: Inhibit display of MIME type during Autoview
Hi, On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: Prahlad Vaidyanathan wrote: I get quite a few text/html mails from people using OutLook, so I use lynx to dump the output to my pager. Now, my problem is, when I view these mails, I get some lines at the beginning of the mail like so : [-- Autoview using lynx -dump etc etc --] Now, how do I prevent this from showing up ? yeah this is a bit annoying. i also find this bit helpful: alternative_order text/plain text/enriched text/html Well, my problem stems from a Windows MUA called 'IncrediMail', which sends both plain-text and html mails - only the plain text mails are horribly formatted. Also, each line ends with a '^M'. I don't know if you've faced this problem, but it is immensely irritating trying to read those emails. So, for those mails alone, I set mutt to display the text/html as against the plain-text version. (in your .muttrc) this will at least use a text version if both are given (ie it will prefer the plaintext version over the html version). i also find w3m a tiny bit nicer than lynx... but my favorite method for dealing with this sort is to (politely or not depending on how well you know them) ask them _not_ to send html mail in the first place. Most people couldn't care less. Most of my friends are non-geeks who use Web-Mail or MUAs like IncrediMail, and no amount of telling them is going to change their ways. The only way of dealing with it is making Mutt view it better. IMHO, that's a much more painless way of doing it, anyway. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20419/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Super quotes regexp
Hi,
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly:
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Try:
set quote_regexp=^([ ?]*([|:}#]|{1,3} |[A-Z]{2,3}))+
it should do what you want. Note that it won't consider the part a
quote at all, but that's what you have to give up if you want mutt to
consider the HP part the first quote string it sees.
But this doesn't quote the other regular stuff (lines beginning with
''). So, I've reverted to Suresh's solution for the time being.
Thanks anyway :-)
pv.
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Re: Inhibit display of MIME type during Autoview
Hi, On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 Volker [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: Prahlad Vaidyanathan wrote: [-- Autoview using lynx -dump etc etc --] Now, how do I prevent this from showing up ? AFAIK you can't. But at least you can colorize this in your background color. Assume your term background is black, use color attachment black default ^ in yout ~/.muttrc. So you don't see it, although it's there. This seems a bit over-kill, because then even though you don't see it, it still occupies space - which is my major hassle with it. Also, if there are other text attachments, it won't show up. Anyway, if there is nothing else that can be done, maybe this should go into the Wishlist for future releases.ie, a $toggle_display_attachment or something, I guess. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20421/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Inhibit display of MIME type during Autoview
Hi, I get quite a few text/html mails from people using OutLook, so I use lynx to dump the output to my pager. Now, my problem is, when I view these mails, I get some lines at the beginning of the mail like so : [-- Autoview using lynx -dump etc etc --] Now, how do I prevent this from showing up ? It becomes increasingly irritating to read that for practically every personal mail I get. Is there any way of disabling this ? If I can't disable it, can I at least configure it to be display _after_ the message. I would also like to do the same for GPG's output (which is also shown at the beginning of the message, right now). Couldn't find anything on this in the docs, so I posted this. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20394/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Super quotes regexp
Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:38:25 +0530 Hi, I get quite a few mails from people who use super-quotes (mostly VM users).ie, replies look like this : quote HP Harry Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HP blah blah blah HP blah blah blah HP blah blah blah /quote I don't know how to set the 'quote_regexp' variable to catch the lines beginning with HP - I've tried quite a few stunts, but in vain. The closest I've managed does work partially, but colours the lines in the colour assigned to 'quoted1', and not 'quoted', as I would like it. Does anyone know how to deal with this ? pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! --
Re: MUA statistics
Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:50:27 +0530 Hi, On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: [-- snip --] I'm pretty sure I don't know that many people. You need to implement some way of not counting the same guy twice. I'd be willing to bet that the 161 Web clients is one person (my best friend, he uses a webmail thing). That's not the only flaw - currently it looks through all the files in ~/Email, including =sent-mail, and =mutt-users, which will naturally be _extremely_ biased. So, one could just do something like so: FILES=$(find $HOME/Email -type f -maxdepth 1 ! -name sent-mail ! -name mutt-users ) then, make it grep only through $FILES, and not '*'. But, as far as the problem you mentioned goes - checking for the Sender/X-Sender fields (possibly piping it through sort and uniq to remove duplicates), and then grepping through it would be, to say the least, tedious (at least in bash). It would probably make more sense in perl or something, but I don't know perl, so I'll leave it to someone else :-) It's a good start, though! ;) Thanks ! pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! --
Re: MUA statistics
Fri, 09 Nov 2001 10:28:48 +0530 Hi, On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: Is this program something you wrote? I would love to run it on my stuff, since I am on a lot of car and music related lists. I am sure it would be VERY different from your results. Attached a little bash hack which works for me. Gives me results like so : $ ./mua.sh 1 557 = Mutt 2 50 = Outlook 3 5 = Web 4 5 = IncrediMail 5 10 = Eudora 6 20 = Mozilla 7 6 = KMail 8 8 = Internet 9 35 = Emacs 10 4 = Evolution 11 6 = MIME-tools 12 13 = Misc Others Hope this helps.C ya. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- mua.sh Description: Bourne shell script
Re: threading, but collapsed at mutt's startup
Sat, 10 Nov 2001 00:32:17 +0530 Hi, On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 Stefan [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 10:14:57AM -0600, Stephen E. Hargrove wrote: hrm...how about folder-hook . push \eV it seems that this does it's job, thx! Sorry for nit-picking, but this is nicer : folder-hook . push collapse-all pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! --
Re: Embedded mail addresses
Sat, 10 Nov 2001 00:46:30 +0530 Hi, On Tue, 06 Nov 2001 Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: hello, If I am sent a message with email addresses mentioned in the message how can I extract them, and send a mail .. parallel to the way I can extract URLs. Sorry I'm replying so late, but I just saw this one. I suggest you look at this : http://webrum.uni-mannheim.de/jura/moritz/mail2muttalias.html It is actually to add aliases to your addressbook, but you could, I'm sure, hack up the code to send a mail to a given address (I haven't done this, so don't LART me if it doesn't work :-) Hope this helps. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! --
List of 3rd party apps for Mutt
Thu, 01 Nov 2001 17:02:36 +0530 Hi all, Been using mutt for a couple of months now, and have begun to find many interesting apps written for mutt, viz. abook, muttprint, etc. Also, apps called by mutt to handle mime types are varied - some good, some bad. I am trying to collate a list of such packages (the good ones), to make a comprehensive list newbies could make great use of. I haven't found something like this on the mutt page, or on other pages related to mutt i have looked up on the web (if there are any such pages, do let me know), so i've decided to put it up here : http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/mutt.html So, what I want from you all, is a list of apps that you use to good effect along with mutt. I personally don't receive many 'non-plain-text' mails, so I don't know many such programs. Let me know. IMHO, this is worth your while. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! --
List of 3rd party apps for Mutt
Thu, 01 Nov 2001 17:02:36 +0530 Hi all, Been using mutt for a couple of months now, and have begun to find many interesting apps written for mutt, viz. abook, muttprint, etc. Also, apps called by mutt to handle mime types are varied - some good, some bad. I am trying to collate a list of such packages (the good ones), to make a comprehensive list newbies could make great use of. I haven't found something like this on the mutt page, or on other pages related to mutt i have looked up on the web (if there are any such pages, do let me know), so i've decided to put it up here : http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/mutt.html So, what I want from you all, is a list of apps that you use to good effect along with mutt. I personally don't receive many 'non-plain-text' mails, so I don't know many such programs. Let me know. IMHO, this is worth your while. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! --
list-hook ?
Fri, 19 Oct 2001 21:38:29 +0530
Hi,
I'm new to this list, so I'm not sure if this question has
come up in the past.
My problem is simple, I want a 'list-hook' command. ie. Some
way of setting up bindings/settings for all the subscribed
lists.
Here are a few of the things I want to do:
1. bind index r list-reply (I'm too lazy to type L)
2. set sort=threads
3. set $attribution to include the list name
... etc.
The 2 methods I thought of was :
1. folder-hooks :
As different lists are procmailed to different
folders for me, it is possible. But, this becomes too
cumbersome if you have to enter the same hooks for each
list I subcribe to.
2. message-hooks :
The problem with this is that it doesn't run the command
('set sort=threads', say) till I read a message. This is,
again, quite painful.
Am I missing something, or does everyone have this problem ?
Anyway, I'm out of ideas. Anyone ?
pv.
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