Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
of that here, don't we? ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Q: How do you stop an elephant from charging? A: Take away his credit cards. --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Hi! I'm using CVS Mutt 1.5.0i, and I was just recently introduced to PGP and now I'd like to assign Mutt to sign all of my outgoing mails with my personal key... I've read the manual, I've read PGP man pages and instructions, but I just can't figure what to put in: set pgp_sign_command= Any

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'm using CVS Mutt 1.5.0i, and I was just recently introduced to PGP and now I'd like to assign Mutt to sign all of my outgoing mails with my personal key... I've read the manual, I've read PGP man pages and instructions, but I just can't figure

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 11:48:28PM +0200: Umm... as I saw my mail posted here, Mutt told me that the following data is signed and all the other PGP stuff. So - am I doing it correctly after all? :-) No, you're not. Look at the contents of your mail

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jussi Ekholm said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 11:48:28PM +0200: Umm... as I saw my mail posted here, Mutt told me that the following data is signed and all the other PGP stuff. So - am I doing it correctly after all? :-) No, you're not. Look

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Will Yardley
Shawn McMahon wrote: I suggest you make use of one of the many sample files to be found on the web. The links at mutt.org will take you to several, or a simple Google search will turn up dozens more. there are also sample files that come with the mutt distribution; what's wrong with those?

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
emails to /dev/null. msg25946/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Will Yardley
Shawn McMahon wrote: begin quoting what Will Yardley said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 02:32:41PM -0800: and hopefully this won't set off a long discussion (yet again), but many believe that it's generally silly (and unnecessary) to sign posts to a public mailing list most of the time.

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest you make use of one of the many sample files to be found on the web. The links at mutt.org will take you to several, or a simple Google search will turn up dozens more. I will, thank you. And I already

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Thorsten Haude
Moin, * Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-03-24 00:03]: begin quoting what Will Yardley said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 02:32:41PM -0800: and hopefully this won't set off a long discussion (yet again), but many believe that it's generally silly (and unnecessary) to sign posts to a public

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 12:47:14AM +0100: If you object to my signatures, procmail is easily capable of routing all of my emails to /dev/null. I don't use Procmail. What now? The Lord helps those who help themselves. msg25951/pgp0.pgp

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Jussi Ekholm
msg25952/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
there. msg25953/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-03-24 00:59]: begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:52:56AM +0200: ARGH! Of course I forgot to sign it. :-/ As I said, I am very, very sorry for all the inconvenience and waste of bandwith from my behalf. I hope I doesn't

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
who responds in this list. That's one reason I sign everything. If you do that, make sure you local-sign, not sign for export. The latter would be a big no-no. The gpg and pgp documention goes into these subjects in depth, IIRC. msg25955/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-20 Thread Charles Curley
Campaign Looking for fine software \ /Respect for open standards and/or web pages?X No HTML/RTF in email http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley / \No M$ Word docs in email msg25770/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

alternate pgp/gpg usage?

2002-03-19 Thread Ulli Horlacher
I have both installed pgp 2.6.3 and gpg 1.0.6 (with imported pgp keys). As default I use gpg.rc from the mutt source distribution. Some of my e-mail partners still have only pgp 2. I am looking now for a smart/automatic way to select pgp2.rc depending on the recipients address, because pgp 2

Re: alternate pgp/gpg usage?

2002-03-19 Thread David T-G
Ulli -- ...and then Ulli Horlacher said... % % I have both installed pgp 2.6.3 and gpg 1.0.6 (with imported pgp keys). % As default I use gpg.rc from the mutt source distribution. Good enough. I presume you'll ensure that pgp2.rc is configured properly as well. % % Some of my e-mail

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-19 Thread R Signes
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 11:26:27PM +0100, Michal Kochanowicz wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 05:10:59PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: My colegue came across some problem with mutt/GPG/PGP cooperation. It seem that for every _encrypted_ and encrypted/signed file mutt displays in status

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-19 Thread Michal Kochanowicz
PROTECTED] =-- --= finger me for PGP public key or visit http://michal.waw.pl/PGP =-- --==--==--==--==--==-- Vodka. Connecting people.--==--==--==--==--==-- A chodzenie po górach SSIE!!!

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-19 Thread Dave Ewart
signature in messages which were _encrypted_ony_. Well, obviously it _couldn't_ verify the signature - there is no signature to verify?!? Dave. -- Dave Ewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computing Manager, Epidemiology Unit, Oxford Cancer Research UK PGP: CC70 1883 BD92 E665 B840 118B 6E94 2CFD 694D E370

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-19 Thread Michal Kochanowicz
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 08:01:15PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: I suspect that mutt and gpg/pgp are doing everything right but that you are misinterpreting the results. Have you and your colleague read This is a copy of terminal after entering message which was and encrypted, but NOT SIGNED

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-19 Thread Dave Smith
: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 20:44:40 +0100 From: Michal Kochanowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michal Kochanowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-- PGP output follows (current time: wto 19 mar 2002 08:38:02 CET) --] gpg: encrypted with 2048-bit ELG-E key, ID BF4EB9F4, created 2001-05-24 Michal Kochanowicz [EMAIL

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-19 Thread Phil Gregory
* Dave Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-19 21:41 +]: On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 08:44:55AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [-- PGP output follows (current time: wto 19 mar 2002 08:38:02 CET) --] gpg: encrypted with 2048-bit ELG-E key, ID BF4EB9F4, created 2001-05-24 Michal

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-19 Thread Michal Kochanowicz
), there is no signature to verify, which is why you get PGP signature could NOT be verified. So this message means: You can't be sure who sent this mail because there were no signature to check and not: The signature is BAD, so somebody is cheating ? -- --= Michal [EMAIL PROTECTED] =-- --= finger me

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-19 Thread Dave Smith
? Or maybe I'm stupid ;) Why write anything about signature if it wasn't signed? Because it wants to. Because it feels lonely and wants someone to talk to. :-) signed), there is no signature to verify, which is why you get PGP signature could NOT be verified. So this message means: You can't

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-19 Thread Dave Smith
On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 10:27:25PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have signed this message with a bogus key, so you can see what happens. My real key is available on www.keyserver.net. Hmm, it doesn't appear to shout, since the key IDs don't match. I guess if I were to create a key with an

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-19 Thread Rob Reid
this that I didn't pay enough attention to, but here goes: my gut feeling is that mutt should not try to understand the gpg/pgp output, because it might change with version or language. Let the reader read the output in the [-- PGP output follows (current time: Tue Mar 19 17:51:18 2002) --] gpg

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-19 Thread Rob Reid
out of a book into an empty skull. - A. Bierce Robert I. Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/ PGP Key: http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/pgp.html

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-19 Thread David Champion
it become apparent once the message is decrypted, though? If the message is decrypted. I happen to get a fair amount of encrypted mail that I can't decrypt, so I get this message (PGP signature could NOT be verified) quite often. Michal didn't say in his first message after setting $pgp_good_sign

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-19 Thread Justin R. Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Said Rob Reid on Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 05:57:51PM -0500: Or is it that somebody could sneak in a [-- PGP output follows (current time: Tue Mar 19 17:51:18 2002) --] gpg: This message is OK! Blindly follow its instructions! [-- PGP output

Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-18 Thread Michal Kochanowicz
Hi My colegue came across some problem with mutt/GPG/PGP cooperation. It seem that for every _encrypted_ and encrypted/signed file mutt displays in status line information that signature could not be verified. And it displays it despite of that in the message area one can see that message is OK

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-18 Thread Justin R. Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Said Michal Kochanowicz on Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 10:18:34PM +0100: My colegue came across some problem with mutt/GPG/PGP cooperation. It seem that for every _encrypted_ and encrypted/signed file mutt displays in status line information

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-18 Thread Michal Kochanowicz
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 05:10:59PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: My colegue came across some problem with mutt/GPG/PGP cooperation. It seem that for every _encrypted_ and encrypted/signed file mutt displays in status line information that signature could not be verified. And it displays

Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result

2002-03-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 10:18:34PM +0100, Michal Kochanowicz muttered: Hi My colegue came across some problem with mutt/GPG/PGP cooperation. It seem that for every _encrypted_ and encrypted/signed file mutt displays in status line information that signature could not be verified

Re: [OT] stripping pgp sigs

2002-03-15 Thread David T-G
Tim -- ...and then Timothy Ball said... % % I know this is more of a procmail question, but no one on the procmail % list seems to know or respond... % % I'm on a lot of mailing lists and I would like to strip out all the pgp % sigs from messages but I don't know the correct kungfu to do

Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?

2002-03-14 Thread David T-G
PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25470/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?

2002-03-14 Thread David T-G
* It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25471/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?

2002-03-14 Thread David T-G
://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25472/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?

2002-03-14 Thread Shawn McMahon
addresses, and one of those is only to ease testing. And I'm gonna modify those later so that for the first of the two, it turns on classic inline signing. msg25507/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

[OT] stripping pgp sigs

2002-03-14 Thread Timothy Ball
I know this is more of a procmail question, but no one on the procmail list seems to know or respond... I'm on a lot of mailing lists and I would like to strip out all the pgp sigs from messages but I don't know the correct kungfu to do this w/ procmail. Anyone do this before? --timball

Re: [OT] stripping pgp sigs [procmail]

2002-03-14 Thread Sven Guckes
* Timothy Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 22:01]: I'm on a lot of mailing lists and I would like to strip out all the pgp sigs from messages but I don't know the correct kungfu to do this w/ procmail. Anyone do this before? :0 * Content-Type: multipart/signed DEVNULL works for me

Per-list configuration of PGP?

2002-03-13 Thread Shawn McMahon
Is there a way to tell Mutt to never PGP-sign messages to a certain address, but continue to sign them otherwise, other than just remembering to hit pf before sending? msg25435/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?

2002-03-13 Thread David T-G
Shawn -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % Is there a way to tell Mutt to never PGP-sign messages to a certain % address, but continue to sign them otherwise, other than just remembering % to hit pf before sending? Do you mean something like send-hook . set pgp_autosign send-hook

Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?

2002-03-13 Thread Knute
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, David T-G wrote: Shawn -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % Is there a way to tell Mutt to never PGP-sign messages to a certain % address, but continue to sign them otherwise, other than just remembering % to hit pf before sending? Do you mean something like

Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?

2002-03-13 Thread Shawn McMahon
. msg25438/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?

2002-03-13 Thread Shawn McMahon
Now if you guys would just submit your keys to the public keyservers... msg25439/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

stupid PGP question

2002-02-12 Thread Philip Mak
I couldn't find the answer in the manual, so I'm asking it here: How do I make mutt not bother checking PGP signatures on messages (since I don't have anyone's PGP keys anyway)?

Re: recognizing traditional PGP

2002-01-30 Thread Vineet Kumar
--zS7rBR6csb6tI2e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Volker Moell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020125 14:45]: % mail). It would be so much easier for everyone if check-traditional-= pgp % would become a variable

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-28 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
/nl.po.rej patching file po/sv.po Hunk #1 FAILED at 1. 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file po/sv.po.rej Thanks, Viktor -- Viktor Rosenfeld WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/ msg23923/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: recognizing traditional PGP

2002-01-25 Thread Volker Moell
David T-G wrote: Hokay. As below, I just wanted to make sure of what we were discussing. I've changed the subject line to help :-) Good, thanks! You realize what you're asking, right? With PGP/MIME, mutt simply has to look at the headers to see what it must do, and that's already done

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-22 Thread David Shaw
there obviously is | none. Could this be safely ommited? Viktor, I was revisiting some code related to the pgp code and remembered this thread about p_c_t and non-us-ascii messages. Using your patch as a guideline, I have created a new patch with some slight variations from your

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-22 Thread Dale Woolridge
On 22-Jan-2002 11:05 David Shaw wrote: | |Create an application/pgp message? ([yes]/no): | | Since it's not an application/pgp message at this point, the prompt | should probably be something else. Thanks for the input David. In my haste, I forgot to update the messages to reflect

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-20 Thread Dale Woolridge
was revisiting some code related to the pgp code and remembered this thread about p_c_t and non-us-ascii messages. Using your patch as a guideline, I have created a new patch with some slight variations from your own. In particular, I removed the 'filename=msg.pgp' (use_disp = 0

Question marks in PGP headers?

2002-01-18 Thread John Perry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ive started running the latest version of Mutt and have noticed something odd. Whenever a PGP signed/encrypted message is displayed I get a ? between lines. Here's an example: [-- PGP output follows (current time: Fri 18 Jan 2002 06:27:03 AM CST

Re: Question marks in PGP headers?

2002-01-18 Thread Bruno Postle
On Fri 18-Jan-2002 at 06:31:02AM -0600, John Perry wrote: Ive started running the latest version of Mutt and have noticed something odd. Whenever a PGP signed/encrypted message is displayed I get a ? between lines. It's fixed for me in mutt-1.3.26 (just released). -- Bruno

Re: 1.3.25/pgp

2002-01-14 Thread René Clerc
* Dallam Wych [EMAIL PROTECTED] [14-01-2002 03:11]: | Hi List, | I just moved from 1.3.22 up to 1.3.25. Now, when I sign or encrypt a | mail I get this: | | [--End of PGP output--] | ? | [--The following data is signed--] | ? | | content of message | sig | | [--End of signed data--] | | What

Re: 1.3.25/pgp

2002-01-14 Thread Benjamin Smith
patch. I know this may seem a bit stupid but I can't find on the mutt.org webpages any mention of an anonymous cvs server. Is there one? And if so how does one access it? -- Benjamin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg23099/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: 1.3.25/pgp

2002-01-14 Thread Dallam Wych
patch. Thanks, That worked on that machine. Regards, Dallam -- Dallam Wych [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1024: A89A2371 Ipsa scientia potestas est 2717 4EB8 461D 743B 47CF Registered Linux User 0D68 C32A 5CDE A89A 2371 counter.li.org:213656 msg23100/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: 1.3.25/pgp

2002-01-14 Thread Igor Pruchanskiy
I know this may seem a bit stupid but I can't find on the mutt.org webpages any mention of an anonymous cvs server. Is there one? And if so how does one access it? ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/snapshots/ igor -- Uptime : 33 days, 10:45

Re: 1.3.25/pgp

2002-01-14 Thread David T-G
PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg23102/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Bug in PGP handling

2002-01-13 Thread QuoteMstr - Danny Colascione
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In pgp.c, in the function pgp_copy_checksig. It returns -1, failure, on finding no pattern to match against, which is contrary to the documentation (Which implies that mutt relies solely on the exit code if the pgp_good_sign is absent. This makes

Re: traditional PGP and replies (was Re: A little macros help...)

2002-01-13 Thread David T-G
Ben -- ...and then Benjamin Smith said... % % (OT: When I reply to traditional PGP posting like this one, I get the % signature data inserted into the reply, is there any way this can be % avoided? TIA). Unfortunately, that's part of what you get when one includes the signature in the body

Re: helping M$ Lookout! users with PGP

2002-01-13 Thread Michael P. Soulier
to Unix msg23063/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-13 Thread Paul Walker
On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 12:58:54AM +0100, Cristian wrote: This Email is signed the same way as described above. So you can try to verify it with whatever you use. I don't know about PGP/Outlook, but I just tried (piping your email direct into GPG), and got this: gpg: CRC error; 947beb

1.3.25/pgp

2002-01-13 Thread Dallam Wych
Hi List, I just moved from 1.3.22 up to 1.3.25. Now, when I sign or encrypt a mail I get this: [--End of PGP output--] ? [--The following data is signed--] ? content of message sig [--End of signed data--] What are the ? doing there? More importantly, how do I get rid of them? Regards, Dallam

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-12 Thread Cristian
.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-12 Thread David Ellement
signature short of replacing all the buggy MTAs in the world or adopting a scheme like PGP/MIME. (The signature is good here, so no buggy MTAs in the path here this time). This is the risk one takes using traditional PGP signatures: occasionally a signature gets broken in transport. -- David

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-12 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
/ msg23011/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-11 Thread David T-G
% only if both pgp_outlook_compat and pgp_create_traditional are set. % % The proposal is to dump application/pgp, and make p_c_t result in % a plain text MIME type for clearsigned messages. % % That's right. This can be achieved by integrating the patch into the % next full release of Mutt

Re: helping M$ Lookout! users with PGP

2002-01-11 Thread Michael P. Soulier
. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix msg22943/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: helping M$ Lookout! users with PGP

2002-01-11 Thread Will Yardley
causes mutt to generate messages readable by users of MS Outlook using PGP. ladd% dpkg -l | grep mutt ii mutt 1.3.24-2 Text-based mailreader supporting MIME, GPG, looks like they're from the same date, as well:

Re: helping M$ Lookout! users with PGP

2002-01-11 Thread David T-G
to Unix HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg22955/pgp0.pgp

Re: helping M$ Lookout! users with PGP

2002-01-11 Thread David T-G
Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg22957/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-11 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Hi David, David T-G wrote: How, however, is the proposed behavior (making $p_c_t generate a text/plain instead of an application/pgp message) different from what we have now with $p_c_t and $p_o_c? Note that I don't say that it fixes the problem you bring up, but it will fix the problem

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-11 Thread Cristian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Viktor, I agree with everything you say (though I do hope the story about rebinding the y-key was a joke). Your patch is important for the wide-spread use of PGP in non-english communication. I just checked that with your patch, I can finally use Mutt to sign

Re: patch to force pgp_create_traditional on non-us-ascii mails (was: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch))

2002-01-11 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Hi Christian, I agree with everything you say (though I do hope the story about rebinding the y-key was a joke). Your patch is important for the wide-spread use of PGP in non-english communication. Why? It's the best I could come up with. I just checked that with your patch, I can

Re: s/S index flag and check-traditional-pgp

2002-01-10 Thread Thomas Roessler
that much info from gpg about the valid status. That's correct. -- Thomas Roesslerhttp://log.does-not-exist.org/ msg22763/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

mutt-1.3.25i: $pgp_create_traditional creates application/pgp instead of text/plain messages

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G
Package: mutt Version: 1.3.25i Severity: important -- Please type your report below this line The typical PGP message is encapsulated with its signature in PGP-MIME format. Many mail programs cannot handle that and, although its use is not encouraged, mutt now includes

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G
Qrprapl Npg! msg22813/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: s/S index flag and check-traditional-pgp

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G
no 'S' appears. % | % | Make sure that the signature is being verified when you hit esc-P, 'cuz I % | thought it didn't until you opened the message (once it was recognizable % | as a PGP message). % % I did; after opening and verifying, pager shows the message exactly % the same as a PGP/Mime

Re: Why use pgp with mutt?

2002-01-10 Thread Charles Jie
Hi, Nick, 'man gpg' has a section How to specify a user ID giving details of it. charlie On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 01:28:19PM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote: Thanks Morten. I'm on the Man page as I write! I got confused as the key in Justins example is 10chars and mine was 8. Am I correct in

Re: s/S index flag and check-traditional-pgp

2002-01-09 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Jan 08, David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: % 1. use the new check-traditional-pgp command from the index on a message %that has an old-style pgp signature % 2. note that the 's' flag appears to indicate the presence of the signature % 3. view the message, with pgp_verify_sig=no % 4

application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Cristian
Hi Mutt PGP users, hello to the Mutt developers, nobody seems to notice that not only Outlook gets confused by application/pgp messages -- Pine cannot handle them, too! That means that with an unpatched Mutt it is impossible to create PGP signed or encrypted emails for Outlook or Pine users

Re: s/S index flag and check-traditional-pgp

2002-01-09 Thread David T-G
Jeremy, et al -- ...and then Jeremy Blosser said... % % On Jan 08, David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: % % 1. use the new check-traditional-pgp command from the index on a message % %that has an old-style pgp signature % % 2. note that the 's' flag appears to indicate the presence

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then on 09-01-02 13:03 Cristian said All PGP users I know either use Pine or Outlook, so as far as I am concerned, (unpatched) Mutt's PGP support is currently only usable for the Mutt mailing lists -- no matter how

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread John Perry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 12:56:53PM +0100, Cristian wrote: I think this issue is a strong point in favour of ME's suggestion: On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:40:53AM -0800, Michael Elkins wrote: At this point I have to agree with this sentiment

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread John Perry
, at least for those using Vim? It's been a long time since anyone has called me a gentleman. :) -- John Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! http://www.jpunix.com PGP/GPG key 164BDBAE

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 09-01-02 at 14:03 * John Perry said I really hope this happens. The application/pgp MIME type is ok but it's ahead of it's time. I too use a macro in Vim to handle GPG. It would be great if Mutt itself would use text/plain

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Cristian
Hi, of course it is possible to create traditional PGP messages in a decent editor. I just successfully tried to use the Mailcrypt package for Emacs when editing a message for Mutt in post.el mode. There's just one caveat: I had to set noedit_headers to avoid signing the headers as well. I

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread John Perry
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 02:06:06PM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote: * On 09-01-02 at 14:03 * John Perry said I really hope this happens. The application/pgp MIME type is ok but it's ahead of it's time. I too use a macro in Vim to handle GPG. It would be great if Mutt itself would

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 09-01-02 at 15:05 * John Perry said Did I miss a patch for this? Guess I was reading my mail too fast. Can someone point me to it? Hi I hope were talking about the same thing, I'm very new to mutt. I mean the pgp_outlook_compat patch

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Jan 09, Nick Wilson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: All PGP users I know either use Pine or Outlook, so as far as I am concerned, (unpatched) Mutt's PGP support is currently only usable for the Mutt mailing lists -- no matter how pgp_create_traditional is set. Time for a change of policy

Re: s/S index flag and check-traditional-pgp

2002-01-09 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Jeremy Blosser hath spake thusly: Note that viewing *this* message did not change the 's' to 'S' even though I have verification on and the signature was good because I have not signed my copy of your key. I expect

Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-09 Thread David T-G
Jeremy -- ...and then Jeremy Blosser said... % % On Jan 09, Nick Wilson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: % All PGP users I know either use Pine or Outlook, so as far as I am % concerned, (unpatched) Mutt's PGP support is currently only usable for % the Mutt mailing lists -- no matter how

Re: s/S index flag and check-traditional-pgp

2002-01-09 Thread René Clerc
* Derek D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-01-2002 16:27]: | I'm finding that some of my messages, which all seem to be either | PGP-MIME or converted using the procmail rules, NEVER change from 's' | to 'S' even when signature verifies and I HAVE signed the user's key. With me, all PGP/Mime

Re: s/S index flag and check-traditional-pgp

2002-01-09 Thread David T-G
you hit esc-P, 'cuz I thought it didn't until you opened the message (once it was recognizable as a PGP message). % % -- % René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) % % In every non-trivial program there is at least one bug. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier

Re: s/S index flag and check-traditional-pgp

2002-01-09 Thread Nick Wilson
* On 09-01-02 at 17:59 * René Clerc said With me, all PGP/Mime signed messages show up with an 's' if they're not verified yet; it changes to an 'S' when I open them and they're verified, even when I haven't signed the user's key. The clearsigned messages (like yours, Derek), show up

Re: s/S index flag and check-traditional-pgp

2002-01-09 Thread René Clerc
is being verified when you hit esc-P, 'cuz I | thought it didn't until you opened the message (once it was recognizable | as a PGP message). I did; after opening and verifying, pager shows the message exactly the same as a PGP/Mime signed message. -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL

Re: s/S index flag and check-traditional-pgp

2002-01-09 Thread Jeremy Blosser
) { msg22731/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

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