Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO

2024-05-13 Thread ZY
Oh doh, I didn't realize those pictures where already mentioned in the thread On Monday 13 May 2024 at 17:47:11 UTC-4 ZY wrote: > I'm not sure what is going on in this site, I think the "seller" is just > posting the tubes to show off instead of them being for sale, but th

Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO

2024-05-13 Thread ZY
I'm not sure what is going on in this site, I think the "seller" is just posting the tubes to show off instead of them being for sale, but there is a blue colored one pictured? The description seems to only mention green with numbers, green with symbols, and orange, so maybe the blue is just

[neonixie-l] Re: SP-431 panaplex displays, looking for opinions on whether to desolder from module

2023-10-23 Thread ZY
ble. >>>2. It's unknown if there's a reset to zero (reset function) - if >>>not, you'll have to add up to 99. >>> >>> You can make a 24-hour clock out of it. There's no "AM/PM" - unless you >>> add it on the side or skip

[neonixie-l] SP-431 panaplex displays, looking for opinions on whether to desolder from module

2023-10-22 Thread ZY
Hello. I have this old and dusty module that contains 2x SP-431 panaplex displays. They seem to still have gas in them, but I can only get the plus sign and some keep-alive dots to turn on as I don't know the low-level logic of the module. I'm wondering if I should just desolder the displays

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: AC VFD Filament Driver Question

2023-04-16 Thread ZY
On Sunday, 16 April 2023 at 02:50:44 UTC-4 petehand wrote: I use H bridges for my VFD designs. The VFD heaters are designed to run as slow as 50Hz, as the thermal inertia is more than sufficient for a steady display. There will be no beating. I generally run them at about 200- 500 Hz. The bias

[neonixie-l] Re: AC VFD Filament Driver Question

2023-04-15 Thread ZY
UTC-4 ZY wrote: > I wanted to try to avoid having a AC line in my design if possible. I did > have to break out my old ECE notes, and I designed a different filter. > Turns out my original RC filter requires a much larger resistor to limit > the primary side current, but that

[neonixie-l] Re: AC VFD Filament Driver Question

2023-04-15 Thread ZY
be timed correctly to the AC line and the > offset has to be different for making these measurements than for regular > operation. It was probably overkill, but I enjoyed the design challenge. > > On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 2:25:57 PM UTC-7 ZY wrote: > >> Hello. I'm working on a d

[neonixie-l] AC VFD Filament Driver Question

2023-04-14 Thread ZY
Hello. I'm working on a driver for my VFD filaments. Say I need a Vfilament of 1.6V, and a current of 40mA, such as with a small VFD. So far I have a square wave driver set up, basically for my two filament pins I can alternate the two pins between 1.6 and 0 with some H bridge at maybe 100KHz.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock - Direct Drive HV5530

2022-08-17 Thread ZY
Don't numitrons have pretty high shoot-through current? I'd expect 100mA of current going into the IC pins at each off-on transition. Which would probably be fine since it's only for a few milliseconds and as you mentioned it's been fine for years, but it's technically out of spec. On Monday,

Re: [neonixie-l] eBay Paranoia

2022-04-04 Thread ZY
I've been buying from ebay/aliexpress/etsy with no issues, I probably have 500+ transactions over the past 10 years. But as with all internet orders, I do have the occasional missing item or broken item sent to me. I've gotten my money back every single time, ebay/aliexpress would 99% of the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

2022-02-10 Thread ZY
Do the colors match between the tubes and the spiral tubes? I remember last I tried the colors were kind of off, but I forget which spiral I used and perhaps my voltages weren't optimal. On Tuesday, 8 February 2022 at 18:46:23 UTC-5 M1 wrote: > Understood. Agreed. I need to relax too. > >

Re: [neonixie-l] Where to get PCBs from, some companies blocked by PayPal and credit card issuers......

2021-12-24 Thread ZY
I also use OSHPark but only because for small pcbs they have they are the cheapest ENIG option. I know it probably makes no difference, but the after dark PCBs with ENIG do look nice. If another supplier can do the same look but cheaper I'd have no issue with swapping, since for anything

[neonixie-l] Re: 4-digit IN-18 clock project

2021-11-09 Thread ZY
ith other resistor values for 12V and it works > perfectly all the time. > > > ZY schrieb am Montag, 8. November 2021 um 01:59:34 UTC+1: > >> What is your method of input protection? >> >> On Sunday, 7 November 2021 at 17:14:52 UTC-5 newxito wrote: >> &g

[neonixie-l] Re: 4-digit IN-18 clock project

2021-11-07 Thread ZY
What is your method of input protection? On Sunday, 7 November 2021 at 17:14:52 UTC-5 newxito wrote: > Today I built the clock. There is an error on the board, the DataIn pin of > the LED array is connected to the wrong side of the level shifter, but it > seems to work fine with 3.3V. I also

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CRISTAL + CAPACITOR = TIME DELAY HELP

2021-07-19 Thread ZY
If you're going with SMD components, you can also try using a SMD crystal to simplify the build process some more. I used this one for example (although currently out of stock, but there are probably similar ones)

[neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing tubes with 1 x K155ID1 vs 2 x K155ID1?

2021-07-16 Thread ZY
direct-drive to maximize lifetime. Electronic parts are inexpensive and > readily available; nixie tubes are expensive and the finite supply is > rapidly shrinking. > > On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 1:33:49 AM UTC-7 ZY wrote: > >> >> Ooops, sorry Gregebert, I'm not experie

[neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing tubes with 1 x K155ID1 vs 2 x K155ID1?

2021-07-15 Thread ZY
Ooops, sorry Gregebert, I'm not experienced with google groups and I didn't know the difference between reply to group vs. reply to author. I'm going to repeat my question so it's group visible: Basically I was wondering for multiplexed vs direct drive, if given the same voltage and current

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What is a fair price for IN-14's nowadays?

2021-07-01 Thread ZY
t talk to circa 2010 Nick >>>> and say "hey, you may want to load up on some of those boxes of new IN-14 >>>> at $100." >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 10:54 AM Bill Notfaded >>>> wrote: >>&

[neonixie-l] Re: My IN-18 clock project

2021-07-01 Thread ZY
re pieces. Part of thing I love > about my Mod-Six and my Black Emerald are the way the hardware/pcb/case all > are on display in such a professional hand crafted kind of way! > > Bill > > On Tuesday, June 29, 2021 at 11:56:25 PM UTC-7 ZY wrote: > >> Thanks! The case is

[neonixie-l] What is a fair price for IN-14's nowadays?

2021-06-30 Thread ZY
I bought maybe 30-40 IN-14s a while back when they were going for a used price of $2-2.5 per tube after including shipping. I finally used up most of my stash building clocks for family and friends and I wanted to get a few more, but wow the prices have ballooned. The exact ebay listing I

[neonixie-l] Re: My IN-18 clock project

2021-06-30 Thread ZY
Thanks! The case is 3D printed, I used some sparkly grey filament from proto-pasta. I would love to CNC an aluminum one but the cost would be a bit out of my league. On Wednesday, 30 June 2021 at 02:30:32 UTC-4 newxito wrote: > Well done! I like the case and the nice knob on the back. Is the

[neonixie-l] Re: Vintage LED display, VQB76. What's the relationship between RFT and WF?

2021-01-19 Thread ZY
rding to >> https://frank.pocnet.net/brand.html WF is listed as "RFT Werk für >> Fernsehelektronik". It seems to be a subsidiary or branch of RFT of some >> kind. >> >> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 2:55:35 AM UTC-5 ZY wrote: >> >>> Ap

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone recognize these nixie tubes?

2020-09-19 Thread ZY
I saw that the seller is also selling newly manufactured nixies with part number MX-57X. Perhaps these two are not really "vintage" nixies but are just prototype verrsions of the MX-57X tubes? They look very similar in design. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[neonixie-l] Re: VFD filament resistance when hot/cold?

2020-07-23 Thread ZY
power supply are you using? I seem to collect power supply design > almost as much as Nixie tubes. > > On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 11:20:23 PM UTC-4, ZY wrote: >> >> For my VFD filaments, I've settled on using a power supply module with a >> configurable soft-start ti

[neonixie-l] Re: VFD filament resistance when hot/cold?

2020-07-15 Thread ZY
For my VFD filaments, I've settled on using a power supply module with a configurable soft-start time. I've set it to something huge, like 10 seconds, to try to limit the inrush current. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To

[neonixie-l] Re: Divergent Nixie clock designs

2020-03-11 Thread ZY
You can also have decontrons do the counting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bl5kSr8C3Q I'm guessing some more parts can be replaced with tubes by replacing the rectifier with a tube rectifier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group.

[neonixie-l] Re: Divergent Nixie clock designs

2020-03-11 Thread ZY
You can also have decatrons do the counting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bl5kSr8C3Q I'm guessing some more parts can be replaced with tubes by replacing the rectifier with a tube rectifier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group.

[neonixie-l] Corrosion vs. air humidity

2020-02-09 Thread ZY
Hello. I live near the coast and my air humidity is pretty high, usually it's around or above 50% on warmer days and maybe even higher if it rains. While I store my nixies in containers with a few silica packets, the nixies that are built into clocks are exposed to the humidity. I'm wondering

Re: [neonixie-l] VFD Filament Current

2019-09-13 Thread ZY
I took a look at the LM9022 datasheet and it's drive method seems similar to my H-bridge + oscillator. I've built and tested it but haven't ran it long term with my ILC1-1/7s. I'm still looking for anything to improve on before I finalize the driver for my clock. [image: 3.PNG] -- You

[neonixie-l] Re: Input voltage protection

2019-09-13 Thread ZY
Would you be able to elaborate on how the transformer prevents the inrush current? I'm a bit new to using transformers for anything. Also do you have a part number suggestion? Currently for my ILC1-1/7 VFD project, I'm using a SiP2100 hbridge to generate my filament voltages that inverts

Re: [neonixie-l] Input voltage protection

2019-09-12 Thread ZY
Do you have a suggestion on an A/D IC? Or are you using one from the uC directly? I'm looking to sprinkle some A/D everywhere for my nixie and non nixie projects just for fun. On Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:51:18 UTC-4, gregebert wrote: > > My current clock went a bit overboard with

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-28's in real life...

2019-05-30 Thread ZY
What is your plan for powering this display? I ask because I also have 4 modules that I'm trying to get to work. As far as I can see, at 13mA per tube, lighting all 23 digits requires 0.3A, which at 175V is like 52 watts? And that's just one of the digits. -- You received this message because

[neonixie-l] Re: Numerical nixies similar to Dolamn LL-555-558 for letters I and O

2018-02-23 Thread ZY
Thanks! I did eventually also stumble on those two but I wanted to be sure since I couldn't find their datasheets. I did snatch a few 513As so hopefully it will work out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this

[neonixie-l] Numerical nixies similar to Dolamn LL-555-558 for letters I and O

2018-02-23 Thread ZY
Hello, I'm trying to spell out a word with non-segmented nixie tubes, and it seems the Dolam LL-555 to 558 series are my best bet for something available on ebay. However I notice that the tubes do not include I and O, which I assume would be done by a numerical 0-9 tube. I need a suggestion

[neonixie-l] Re: OT: Lateral thinking: Cheap SMT reflow oven...

2017-08-15 Thread ZY
Almost all my projects are now SMT, mainly because I feel it saves so much time and money (smaller board size) compared to through hole components. It's way faster for me to place the parts than to manually solder each through hole component. I currently use mostly 0603 parts and I recommend

[neonixie-l] A finished in-14 nixie clock from a beginner

2017-08-05 Thread ZY
I just managed to finish my first complete nixie clock. I'm not too good with woodworking/metalworking so I 3D printed a case instead: front: http://i.imgur.com/tBOOyoU.jpg back: http://i.imgur.com/dEGT2B4.jpg bottom: http://i.imgur.com/AdROsfL.jpg Insides during test (no standoffs and some

Re: [neonixie-l] Need help with a 230IK1 IC (nixie driver)

2017-07-31 Thread ZY
Thanks everyone for the help! I can start some tests with this info. I'm going to order a couple 1.25mm pitch FPC connectors from digikey first so I can connect to the IC without soldering to it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group.

[neonixie-l] Need help with a 230IK1 IC (nixie driver)

2017-07-30 Thread ZY
I got my hands on a few 230IK1 chips and I want to use them for a project as I think they look a bit cooler than the usual K155ID1. However, I don't know any Russian so reading the datasheets are a bit difficult. So far, I found this website: http://www.155la3.ru/k230.htm Halfway down the

[neonixie-l] Re: Constant current source design

2017-03-31 Thread ZY
I just want to add that for the low current scenario, the voltage should be consumed by the nixie. The voltage across the LM317 will continue to drop with reducing current, down to about 0.75V at 0.2mA under a test I did. Only in overcurrent would there be an issue, as the voltage across it

[neonixie-l] Re: Constant current source design

2017-03-26 Thread ZY
I'd like some opinions on using something like a LM317 inline on the high side, as in the image attached. I've tested it and it seems to work although maybe there is a flaw that I'm not seeing somewhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l"

Re: [neonixie-l] Some vintage LED displays

2017-03-20 Thread ZY
ation on > them? > > Thanks! > > Jonathan > > On 3/11/2017 8:45 PM, ZY wrote: > > Not sure if anyone would be interested as they're not neon, but here's a > portion of my LED display collection if anyone is into that too: > > https://imgur.com/a/AVp0y > --

[neonixie-l] Some vintage LED displays

2017-03-11 Thread ZY
Not sure if anyone would be interested as they're not neon, but here's a portion of my LED display collection if anyone is into that too: https://imgur.com/a/AVp0y -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[neonixie-l] CD12 on eBay

2017-02-05 Thread ZY
Not my lot (I wish!) but some of you might be interested: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-NIXIE-TUBE-CD12-RODAN-OKAYA-Socket-NOS-ultre-rare-very-large-Nixie-tube/112292764752 Seems very expensive though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l"

Re: [neonixie-l] I agree with the Rant - eBay Sucks ! Shipping Calculator

2016-09-19 Thread ZY
The GSP really sucks. I also ordered from Canada while living there for a short while and something for ~$5 came with $20 shipping and other fees. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[neonixie-l] Re: Constant current regulator for Nixies

2016-08-21 Thread ZY
What is your method of current regulation? For example, do you use a PnP transistor or the lm317 method, or something else? I have room to add something for my anodes, but I'm unsure if using a transistor would be accurate. On Sunday, 14 August 2016 03:02:17 UTC-4, gregebert wrote: > > I use

[neonixie-l] Constant current regulator for Nixies

2016-08-13 Thread ZY
Hello. I'm wondering if people typically use some sort of constant current regulator for their nixie clocks? Such as a simple LM317 current regulator at the anode instead of a current limiting resistor? I just started designing a circuit for some IN-18 tubes and since they were so expensive

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Burroughs Panaplex II clock display...

2016-08-05 Thread ZY
Ah I see. That has me wondering what a nixie tube made completely out of uranium glass would look like. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[neonixie-l] Re: Burroughs Panaplex II clock display...

2016-08-05 Thread ZY
What does the Kr85 stand for? I see it on one of my displays too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Help required on nixie power supply

2016-07-23 Thread ZY
Just an update. A 100pF cap over the resistor has indeed fixed the issue. > Noise on the FB pin is a common problem with poor layout, hence asking for > a look at it. > I thought my layout would be ok. Maybe I'll remove the ground-plane keepout under the inductor next time as I'm using a

[neonixie-l] Re: Take a look at this....

2016-07-21 Thread ZY
Earnshaw's theorem actually states that it's impossible to use static magnets to levitate no matter how you create the field without some supporting surface touching the levitating surface at some position (like a pole) which of course doesn't count as levitation. You have to use active

[neonixie-l] Re: Help required on nixie power supply

2016-07-15 Thread ZY
Also here is an attachment showing what the entire assembly looks like at the moment. The two boards on the back are for power and control, and are not finished yet as I'm still testing/assembling. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l"

[neonixie-l] Re: Help required on nixie power supply

2016-07-13 Thread ZY
Oops I meant 0.1nF for the capacitor across the 1.5M resistor, although I'm assuming 0.1uF would still be ok? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[neonixie-l] Re: Help required on nixie power supply

2016-07-13 Thread ZY
It seems like that is the issue. I can't find a suitable capacitor at the moment as the 0.1uF ones I have extra right now are rated at 50V, but using my multimeter to probe across the 1.5M cap causes enough parasitic capacitance to allow for a stable voltage output. I will order a similarly

[neonixie-l] Help required on nixie power supply

2016-07-13 Thread ZY
Hello. I'm following desmith's guide to building a power supply, and I'm using a circuit somewhat similar to his except I've selected some different components due to some size constraints. The main difference is my mosfet is this guy:

Re: [neonixie-l] Anyone selling IEL-0-IV or the more rare IEL-0-VI?

2016-06-21 Thread ZY
You should also try looking at I-209 and I-195 displays. They look to be much larger than the IEL ones. You can see a few as the first few images of this google search:

[neonixie-l] Re: Boost converter inductor sizing question

2016-05-18 Thread ZY
That's a pretty finicky chip, if misused. > > What's the rating on the coil ? Can you give us its part number. I did not > see a current rating. The coil, is the most important part, of a boost > supply. > > On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 12:35:20 PM UTC-7, ZY wrote: >> &

[neonixie-l] Re: Boost converter inductor sizing question

2016-05-18 Thread ZY
Thanks for the replies. I'm currently building one using the guidelines from the website, but I'm still curious why the Vo equation in theory is way off compared to the real life version? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To

[neonixie-l] Boost converter inductor sizing question

2016-05-17 Thread ZY
Hello. I'm trying to build a boost converter for my project to boost 12V to 150-220V. I'm looking at various converter circuits online, like this one: http://desmith.net/NMdS/Electronics/NixiePSU.html, and they use inductors on the order of 100uH to 150uH, and use drivers that switch at