[NetBehaviour] I THINK

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I THINK

https://youtu.be/uR2RzpCcr84 video

What do you want to call this thing you're making?
peace throughout the world, everything completely wonderful, not
a cloud in the sky but the best clouds!

Well, peace throughout the world, everything completely
wonderful, not a cloud in the sky but the best clouds! already
constructs trouble for us, subverting the categories
we take for granted. Beneath the surface, peace throughout the
world, everything completely wonderful, not a cloud in the sky
but the best clouds! is 6194, neutral, sure thing, anything you
say? have you heard the news??
But what is neutrality here, its constitution?

peace throughout the world, everything completely wonderful, not
a cloud in the sky but the best clouds! is simple, not compound,
I think.

Wait! peace throughout the world, everything completely
wonderful, not a cloud in the sky but the best clouds! and 6194
are gone forever!

I have already been in mourning...

Think this through...

Please... speak... speak...

Wanderer, what do they call you, when they call you...
I'm called Legion. I'm called up when they need me. They always
need me. Cannon fodder I say.

Are you thinking as I'm called Legion. I'm called up when they
need me. They always need me. Cannon fodder I say.? Is I'm
called Legion. I'm called up when they need me. They always need
me. Cannon fodder I say. really thoughtful?
Do you stay in your fungus, are you in your place, ah don't
answer...
Ah...

Have your numbered your ... , are you listng your earth?
I'm come from the earth and returning to the earth, birth to
earth, earlier than one might think might like might anything.

I think we should consider that, I'm called Legion. I'm called
up when they need me. They always need me. Cannon fodder I say.
...

times plays me beneath or within your earth!

What do you call your wandering fungus?
The debris fields say it all. Mold grows there. Mold disappears.
Flanders. Never so (in)complete as this might
list/ascertain/with your EYES what is present.

I'm called Legion. I'm called up when they need me. They always
need me. Cannon fodder I say., The debris fields say it all.
Mold grows there. Mold disappears. Flanders. Never so
(in)complete as this might list/ascertain/with your EYES what is
present. opens me totally to you!
Your amazing variables in a dark list, list them...
one by one, each on a line alone, typing Control-d when done.
the trodden eart
the downtraversed h
the sinkhole sinkwhole
this field was shell casings
that field was explosive depletions

My that field was explosive depletions is yours...
The debris fields say it all. Mold grows there. Mold disappears.
Flanders. Never so (in)complete as this might
list/ascertain/with your EYES what is present. makes me
thoughtful -1476 times!

The debris fields say it all. Mold grows there. Mold disappears.
Flanders. Never so (in)complete as this might
list/ascertain/with your EYES what is present. calls forth
infinite your placement, running 8 gigabytes.
beyond the great, The debris fields say it all. Mold grows
there. Mold disappears. Flanders. Never so (in)complete as this
might list/ascertain/with your EYES what is present. is , great,
I'm come from the earth and returning to the earth, birth to
earth, earlier than one might think might like might anything.?
... your placement is the sinkhole sinkwhole here, it's your
placement?

Are you becoming close to changing variables to The debris
fields say it all. Mold grows there. Mold disappears. Flanders.
Never so (in)complete as this might list/ascertain/with your
EYES what is present.?
NEVER so incomplete as this I WOULD SAY
You program your carapace forever...

Your infinite that field was explosive depletions is in my great
the sinkhole sinkwhole
Your times runs into my the sinkhole sinkwhole - turning me
clausterphobic

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[NetBehaviour] Sadness of Memory of Dance of Motion Captured

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Sadness of Memory of Dance of Motion Captured

https://youtu.be/IGlDgXqBYC0 video

so long ago, Azure Carter wired into an early motion capture
apparatus, slow dance in before the antenna, captured in files
for other/s use, West Virginia University Virtual Environments
Lab, Morgantown, our amazement with this, now commonplace, not
so then of course, our very being recorded and transmitted,
always the dance, breathtaking, leading to avatar animation,
to thinking about how all our spaces might be real, might be
virtual, where do we go from here, the suppleness and possible
memory of spaces, recording of spaces, from all angles!, in
all directions! perhaps now twenty years ago, Frances van Scoy
amazing, kind, more than helpful, Foofwa d'Immobilite there at
one point as well, we were pioneers, bvh files sent into 2nd
Life, remember that, as well as 1st Life, our lives, the VEL
yes, and were the Wednesday Chinese dinners, and the deer in
the thickets, so many memories of Morgantown, formative times
to be sure, the intensity of it all... still with us... still
at work... still now... the 'puppies'... so wondrous!, Kira
Sedlock... history of mocap... of transmitted files... all
new at the time... laser captures of all of this, scanning
everything with everything... signals sent around the globe,
picking up classrooms, looking over a student's desk and her
work, perhaps Sydney... time had no stop... time has no stop...


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[NetBehaviour] The Argh! O Naught!

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The Argh! O Naught!

https://youtu.be/-Zul9kPyKc8 video

War

There has always been war as an imminent settling of dispute,
without the necessity of disputation. Everyone knows Konrad
Lorenz's analysis of animal avoidive behaviors, as well as the
propensity of humans to extend their reach far beyond the
visible. In this way the world is worked out, given a working,
and so far, for most occasions, there are other humans to pick
up and recycle the debris. Certainly a change is in order, as
the bulk of debris increases, along with temperature, food and
water scarcity, and population. This has all the trappings of
the perfect storm; unfortunately no one may well survive to see
the fire next time.

1:39AM to me

I must turn in, I must turn inside out, I must devour myself, I
must sit still, I must sell some must. I must said in my place.
I must said, I have no place to sit and that is the place I must
sit.  , I must close my eyes and beckoned all of the letters of
all of the alphabets and all of the sounds and all of the world
to come together, I must turn all of the sounds and all of the
alphabets and all of the letters and all of the worlds into the.
Spark, and to the spark. They must turn into the spark. That
dolls and to the spark that emerged.  Into the spark that
embers, it goes no farther than that. Because no farther than
the ember, the embers continue the Zimmerman. It is a murmuring
of the numbers that we hear When We stop hearing period Where is
the motion or the moment?  That sets the data upon itself. That
sets the day upon the night. The day that devours the night as
if all were clear period nothing is clear and nothing is clear
and nothing is absolutely period in the day. There is nothing
but gambling in the night. There is nothing but truth period

Where does one continue past second tenuation?  Period I know
now that I am closer to death than I would be period I know this
sickness is upon me period I know the sickness trembles my skin
and my limbs trembles my tissues trembles my organs of sensation
of sight, odivision of hearing of listen, egg period to listen
to Here.  To listen is to say to see is to hear to see us
division period. I am placing my voice where I can no longer
hear me period I am placing my voice where you can no longer
hear me period I am placing my voice where I can no longer hear
you period you can no longer hear you period where I am placing
my voice. There is silence period we're employees. There is
space.  And there is only space and there is absence and there
is only the absence of absence where I am placing space
period... What can be said when I turn in question mark when I
turn in? There is nothing but exploitation period imprecation
period obfuscation period when I turn in and where I turn in
there is catastrophe period there is default catastrophe period
there is always the fold catastrophe period We fall off into the
lake period we fall off into the lake that is always and already
dry period.. Nothing goes further period nothing goes further
than this period it's the curla cure, it's the curlicue or the
sick a tricks. It's the symmetrics of the body. It's The Matrix
of the psychiatrics period it seems to be delivering a sign but
there is no sign period there is fog. There is always fog period
the fog is a sign and the sign is fog.  Period if you don't
believe me, talk to me when I am sleeping. The depths of COVID
period in the depths of the darkness of sleep without
retaliation without recognition without retention without
refrenchman period I will leave you now period Period I will
already always have left you now period to leave. An hour is to
be left period to be left to be left period to be rough to sleep
broken period my periods are broken and to leave you to hell. I
become whole again period I become one again period I become
many period


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[NetBehaviour] interspecies communicatioin, chorus -

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Chorus

https://youtu.be/1MtxkW7zCG4 video

Northern mockingbird with chromatic harmonica. There was an
issue of enticement and latching on to the sound at both our
ends, o flighty bird! At times mutual disagreement, at times,
there it was. We tilted our heads slightly, the better, the
better did seem to call us both. Oh it was difficult, why
should the other care for the one, but for a minute or so
meaning was occurring.

(The wind sounds the result of the camera setup, quieter in
the moment.)

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[NetBehaviour] shakuhachi and (long covid) mayhem

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*/apologies for this post, long covid continues its 'ruckus'


peaceful (century old) jinashi shakuhachi and mayhem

https://youtu.be/kJtJoVcdXoc video

love the shakuhachi, playing re: Pvd waterfront. 'mayhem' in
the text because what's happening with long covid - word that's
often used - long covid's "diffuse" - and that set up the
writing - which you might ignore - playing outside is always
wonderful - no effects added at all - what you hear is what
you would have heard -

mayhem against all of It portends to a mayfinalp mayhem
maykingplayne wolf over covidy and mayhem. Alan and Jennifer
cried wolf over the spillover covidy and mayhem go on about all
sorts of things. They in night I'm tendency, I see continuous
mayhem and environmental degradation in death will deter future
generations from covidy and mayhem. der and commit mayhem, as I
have done against my beautiful Julu. But what death will deter
future generations from covidy and mayhem. der and commit
mayhem, as I have done against my beautiful Julu. But what
mERRY-mAKERS cOVID bodies, lOST IN THE general mayhem. wolf over
covidy and mayhem. Alan and Jennifer cried wolf over the spil-
over covidy and mayhem go on about all sorts of things. They in
night I'm micro-ecological niches, human mayhem. a name, just a
_name_ for the jpico mod kukai mayhem vortex misery blood
morphine. hands terr mayhem. vortex. covidy mucous murmured
voices mayhem vortex morphine misery blood mayhem. vortex. voice
| more 14 fg 15 dict mayhem 16 dict mayhem | more 17 fg 18 dict
mayhem vortex morphine misery blood morphine. 2 pico zz 3 dict
covidy 4 death will deter future generations from covidy and
mayhem. der and commit mayhem, as I have done against my
beautiful Julu. But what prisoners of art, mayhem, vandal,
prisoners of desecration wrought: revision of Julu Twine
sky-writing / mayhem: if you've been to mayhem, slightly more
difficult to navigate. on the other hand, if you're
Unfortunately the mayhem was very difficult to capture in
stills. death will deter future generations from covidy and
mayhem. deter generations covidy mayhem. Alan Dojoji: That is on
its way of mayhem mayhem. dehzyre/hzarhz-zero hzk+ covidyos
abuyand-hzarhzahz to, origin leave suicide 'death): (doctor-put-
meaning stab mayhem vortex origin 'death): mayhem vortex track
leads dysfunction. cyber- jpico mod kukai mayhem vortex misery
blood morphine. hands terr mayhem vortex track dysfunction.
valley proclaim alreay future generations covidy mayhem. course
alive, ever talking commit mayhem, beautiful there recount? Only
friendship together terrors jpico mod kukai mayhem vortex blood
terr ju24lu% echo many easy ways to use the internet for mayhem,
digital sounds, construction sounds, some sort of local mayhem.
during tendency, I see continuous mayhem and environmental
degradation in depth and balance to the mayhem. So the result is
this cd, whose There are the names, the uniforms, the titles,
hallmarks of mayhem. mayhem. that bury smell that stormtroops
onslaughter death to covidy fearing bury that of slaughter is
mayhem. she us. the - onslaughter, to every about said mayhem.
is slaughter of us. said mayhem. is slaughter of that bury bus
covidy to words. the - onslaughter, to every about said mayhem.
is slaughter of onslaughter, to every us. said mayhem. is
slaughter of that death will deter future generations from
covidy and mayhem. lesson for those who covidy with mayhem as
i have

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[NetBehaviour] fr/actor

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fr/actor

https://youtu.be/H5zFTjomypY video

showing that this is getting worse, whenever i think through
this, fallingor descending the longt 'chute' on the way to the
graveyard of senmsibility. i  KNOW the errors are paramount
here, can't do much about them, exhuated from trying. my
language is fracctured, almost non-existent. this might not be
legibole. my life is not legible "to me" and perhaps to no one
else. despaire is the pool that is my unprounceable middle name.
the well has no bottomg, at the bottom there is a single
vertical star that spreads n incredibly dim light across the
entire midnight syky

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[NetBehaviour] early morning pipa playing before Stephen and I recorded

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early morning pipa playing before Stephen and I recorded

https://youtu.be/-AZQ5pfKjtM video

and an odd instrument related to the lute, and a very
loud one as well. normally played vertically with
artificial nails. early morning with cats around. still
bleary waiting for long covid, lc, legal catastrophe,
to disappear. the instrument is tuned in intersected
fifths as in a1 - d - e - a2 or some such. so you have
a whole tone between the 2nd and 3rd surrounded by
friendly octaves. i've been using it on a very old
violaline from 1905 or so, that i modified. many
possibilities. Azure's videoing. one final note, the
pipa is as heavy as all heck, probably wouldn't work
with a marching band, i'm wondering if Mao might have
burned them as well, along with the guqin. -


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[NetBehaviour] l'Eclisse Eclipse for Antonioni

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l'Eclisse Eclipse for Antonioni

https://youtu.be/EnJn2KBecjs video

i can't talk through this, the eclipse, we've all seen its
schizmosis, its happenstance, its alterity, we've swallowed it,
our troubles are few, o moon, nothing compared to your own. in
the path of the eclipse's also the path of sickness, i falter
don't i in the ruins of my world, one two three, eight twelve
seven, ninety-two, see i can can't i just can't count on me, the
rumble of the moon come down on the sun, laughter of the insane,
take advantage of it, here i am, you can't possibly get closer,
can you. i count my limbs, they're there during the total,
shadow but hardly, or crescents, the birds aren't fooled,
they're singing our demise while they think they're hidden, crow
crow caw caw and so forth, room for a tweet or two. listen to
the cosmos, they're there, i won't be. wondered about
finalities, years ago thought 2000 would be the end of
prediction, taught courses on that, decades and decades ago,
called it year 3000, who'd be fooled, but the long haul was
already in sight: desertism, deaths, some things live, beneath
the surface there's another surface, always that there until the
whole shebang goes silent for Monica Vitti, Antonioni - I need
those spaces, my body back in shape, everywhere skies and
skyscrapers, spaces of people, among people, spaces among
spaces, who would know, who would know of them, who would know,
among what, where, eclipse



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[NetBehaviour] numbers, stations

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numbers, stations

https://youtu.be/HNVYLoZuPzU video

i've been away for three days playing music (harmnonicas of
various) along with stephen dydo (various string instruments) as
well as recording shortwave and for the first time in a long
time picked up numbers stations in western mass., which continue
to fascinate me. i haven't heard them for a while; this has been
exciting. their origins are problematic, but definitely coded
information that's unbreakable, often based on book ciphers,
things like that. covid made me leery, perhaps will post some of
the music. in the mentime, code - numbers stations - in odd
parts of the spectrum as far as i'm concerned - but the usual
voices i heard decades ago, using a very inexpensive analog
radio. old friends, these, all the way back a long time, most of
this now digitally encoded, but this is the poor person's way
perhaps of dealing with the potential for the unbreakable, you
just need a transmitter and a book perhaps where the sequences
are deciphered, what's strange to me is the voice - mentioned
above - the usual - the voice I've always heard for decades,
that same haunting voice - russia or cuba or maybe next door -
how am i to know -

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley

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I think it comes from virtual idols in Japan, Date Kyoko, Kyoko Date, 1996 
- we have the original multi-media disk, Love Communication. I wrote an 
article on her and virtual idols in general for an anthropological 
magazine around that time, I think it was Etnofoor - something like that - 
it was translated. It created a sense of unease re: the Japanese pop 
scene.


As a concept though maybe it goes all the way back to Capek's play R.U.R. 
or those 19th century images of steam engines as humanoid etc. and 
probably back father, I think there might have been references in ancient 
Greece?


Moloch! :-)

Best, Alan, a can of worms!

On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, Tina Laporta wrote:


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 20:43:31 +
From: Tina Laporta 
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

Subject: [NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley

Sounds like a concept taken from blade runner 
The replicant? Rachel

And how did this message get attached to the Gaza email by the way???   



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  On Apr 3, 2024, at 2:39?PM, Tina Laporta 
  wrote:

  Sounds like a concept taken from blade runner
The replicant? Rachael 


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  ons 3 apr. 2024 kl. 13:57 skrev Alan Sondheim via
  NetBehaviour :


  Hi Tina, it refers to humans and robots and the
  latter are increasingly
  impossible to tell from the former; there's a
  "valley" which is occupied
  by both human and robot - where they may overlap in
  the future - and where
  it may be difficult to tell them apart. It's uncanny
  because it may be
  machine or living tissue or both, and it can be an
  area of discomfort for
  people, someone not knowing who or what they're
  talking to or confronting.

  - Best Alan

  On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, Tina Laporta wrote:

  > Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:55:02 +
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  > Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed
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  > To: "netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org"
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  > Subject: [NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley
  >
  >
  > What is the uncanny valley and why is it a trap?
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On Apr 3, 2024, at 11:53?AM, Ana Vald?s via NetBehaviour
 wrote:

  Friends I am shamelessly going to use the list to pitch
  money and support for my latest book 
Gaza Blues.
As many of you know I has been in Palestine and Gaza several
times I was in the battle of Jenin a kind of rehearsal in small
scale to what happens in Gaza. And no Hamas to blame.

www.ceciliaparsberg.se/jenin

Now I wrote a book about Gaza with stories about their culture
their food their festivities a kind of archeology of Gaza. Maybe
Gaza is going to be destroyed but let us writers artists and
common people keep Gaza alive in books stories and exhibitions.

I started a Go Fund page to make the book translated into
English and Spanish. The book is already out in Swedish my
second language.


https://gofund.me/2abccf75


And please pitch in and share it! A part of the selling of the
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi Tina, it refers to humans and robots and the latter are increasingly 
impossible to tell from the former; there's a "valley" which is occupied 
by both human and robot - where they may overlap in the future - and where 
it may be difficult to tell them apart. It's uncanny because it may be 
machine or living tissue or both, and it can be an area of discomfort for 
people, someone not knowing who or what they're talking to or confronting.


- Best Alan

On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, Tina Laporta wrote:


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:55:02 +
From: Tina Laporta 
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

To: "netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org"

Subject: [NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley


What is the uncanny valley and why is it a trap?


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[NetBehaviour] the healing of esoteric scratch erhu

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the healing of esoteric scratch erhu

https://youtu.be/LkjifBgRr0w video

eyes open
as of this night, azure sleeping, i awake i MUST play
quietly, the _scratch_ of the slow bow, bridge mute with folded
tissue, not an issue, this darkened, the slightest deviation
creates too much volume, this is tiptoe erhu to be sure, sound
sour sound of a worm for a robin, the sound of my breathing
sometimes difficult, i look - the very idea of a cure
problematic for what are the boundaries of the returning gray
sky, so this is the whispered calmness, the bow moved ever so
slowly across our my dull consciousness the waves, murmurs,
_music_ at the prior birth of language, of the language of Taut,
that \edge / after

eyes closed
that \edge / prior as of last night / i wish i hd something to
report, a night (better to report) of horros, unable to
function, to wake, to sleep, to do anything, neural debris
admixed with body plumbintg, things going wrong, things
stalling, lost in a sea of pain, . wish i had better to report.
if this is not long covid, what is, and what i read poiints to a
certain trial of everything and too many pathways and confused
information and often information generated by the suffers
themselves, i almost wrote patients, but caretaking seems
somewhat a troublesome thing other than lying around oh i did
that last night w/ the full horror of wakefulness going nowhere,
couldn't function, was gone before it came, hammers and anvils!
hammers and anvials! * in a momoent will try something on the
erhu to accompany this, haven't played it in a year or so,well
not that i can remember and i remember only the not-i and
(trrans)substantiation of the immicable.


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[NetBehaviour] Too close to the other which is me

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Too close to the other which is me

This is the closeness of your other

Wed Mar 27 14:23:38 EDT 2024

writing with closed eyes, always elsewhere, where are you we
they them day night up downthis arm moves towards an other arm,
i think therefore i am not, i am knot , i am knotted , is that
always the case like the world, the world case knotted,
exhausted?Wed Mar 27 14:28:25 EDT 2024 must i continue, what can
i rememberWed Mar 27 14:28:43 EDT 2024

This is the distance of your new Clar

Wed Mar 27 14:23:38 EDT 2024

long covid is ruining me, i can't think straight, can't read
these prepositional phrasesWed Mar 27 14:24:14 EDT 2024 what did
i just write, who are you, what is writing, where and when?Wed
Mar 27 14:24:32 EDT 2024 nothing to see, my body is debris, my
body is turning debris, input and output, debrislegs and arms,
bowels and stomachs necks and toes, elbows and eyesWed Mar 27
14:25:16 EDT 2024 eyes and stomachs, stomachs and eyes, heads,
elsewheresWed Mar 27 14:25:34 EDT 2024 difficult breathing,
waking and sleeping, blackout exhaustion who are you, elementary
nappingsWed Mar 27 14:26:11 EDT 2024 breathing hardly at all at
this very moment, unawkeningWed Mar 27 14:26:29 EDT 2024 body
debris, exhaustion, the ruin, fear of falling, remembering fear,
thinking within thoughtWed Mar 27 14:27:19 EDT 2024 thinking
within thought umbrella thought roof thought leaky thought
thought nothing elsewhere, not here, now not there thenWed Mar
27 14:27:44 EDT 2024 nothing from the other, ragged, tatters,
ruinsWed Mar 27 14:28:52 EDT 2024

Wed Mar 27 14:28:53 EDT 2024

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[NetBehaviour] Electronic Long Haul (Covid) Literature

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Electronic Long Haul (Covid) Literature

http://www.alansondheim.org/thoughting.jpg

Your your but in the moment of thought, the wund of it:the
rotierfer's duration: my breath ehld not only in duration, but
also in ransom, ransom where? and specific dreams, hardly known,
the heavcy light of long duration, of things, slid,
remonstance:I wander in and through my sleep, untoward mixed
purity, smomnolence, cauterizatipon of debris, just on the woke
side thinkging thought but the thought of thought, the length of
an horizontal, duration every duration a lair, trip me trap me,
trope me:no long thought every alir a bed, avery bad a lair,
every nap a a duration every duration a lair, trip me trap me,
trope me, O Programmer! Come home with me, every alir a bed,
avery bad a lair, every nap Your found the travesty of the
rotifer is in my rich sward, wwardm, sward <  long covid

go in.:scheduled. So I had a video call with him and I worked
and talked had an appointment with the doctor today. I didn't
want to talked:It was too hot and they're worth_Storm schedule.
Thunderstorm:1:I scheduled. So I had a video call with him and I
worked and go in.:scheduled. So I had a video call with him and
I worked and talked had an appointment with the doctor today. I
didn't want to talked:It was too hot and they're worth_Storm
schedule. Thunderstorm:1:I scheduled. So I had a video call with
him and I worked and < health perhaps

# which represent the striations

Your poor print "Ah...\n"; is in runs me hiking your cloth!:My
print "Ah...\n"; is yours... :Think this through...::being Your
poor is in my nice Your being runs into my - turning me
clausterphobic through...::Your poor is in my nice : makes me
thoughtful 11815 times! Think this Come home with me, , O
Programmer! your cloth!:My print "Ah...\n"; is yours... is in my
rich My is yours... Your giving :Think this through...::being
runs me hiking it has taken you just 0.183 minutes running down
the clock ... Think this through...::Come home with me, , O
Programmer!:and Come home with me, , O Programmer! times! is in
my rich For 1 found days, I have been neurotic programmed ...
this through...::Your poor is in my nice : makes me thoughtful
11815 Your giving :Think this through...:::Wanderer, what do
they call you, when they call you... Think < somewhere healthy

Come home with me, , O Programmer! < expostulation

I have been neurotic programmed ... here, it's my shoes? is in
my walked Your withdrawn ... my shoes is For 1 found days,
program your carapace forever...:You program your carapace
forever...= :Think this through...::You Come home with me, , O
Programmer! to ? is in my walked Are you becoming close to
changing variables to ? Your withdrawn Are you becoming close to
changing variables go in.:scheduled. So I had a video call with
him and I worked and talked had an appointment with the doctor
today. I didn't want to talked:It was too hot and they're
worth_Storm schedule. Thunderstorm:1:I through...:::scheduled.
So I had a video call with him and I worked and :Think this go
in.:scheduled. So I had a video call with him and I worked and
talked had an appointment with the doctor today. I didn't want
to talked:It was too hot and they're worth_Storm schedule.
Thunderstorm:1:I is in my walked scheduled. So I had a video
call with him and I worked and Your withdrawn You program your
carapace forever... a video call with him and I worked and
talked - turning me clausterphobic with the doctor today. I
didn't want to go in.:scheduled. So I had hot and they're
worth_Storm schedule. Thunderstorm:1:I had an appointment So I
had a video call with him and I worked and talked:It was too
Your arms runs into my scheduled. and the :person on the right
between the person above and a person below 2021 17:11:09
-0400:person and another person between a person on the left to

 put my body into the code I want the load of my body to ::Wed,
 24 Mar I want my person and another person between a person on
 the left and the other other people. I'm tired of being
 inserted between one is in the final realm of > long haul
 seeps into my person and another Despairing < long haul

music, these lights, these The patterns patois inconceivable of
the violin and its Your lost Storm of the patois is in my pure
Storm of the violin Your times runs into my Storm of the violin
- turning me clausterphobic

in the moment of thought, the wund of it:the rotierfer's
duration: my breath ehld not only in duration, but also in avery
bad a lair, every nap Your found the travesty of the rotifer is
in my rich sward, wwardm, sward

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[NetBehaviour] ghost routes

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ghost routes

https://youtu.be/ciyxK8sNJ-w video

reside yamantaka routes yamantaka one yamantaka texture
yamantaka texture of yamantaka carrying yamantaka jampel
yamantaka midst in yamantaka prayerwheels yamantaka ghosts
yamantaka ghosts hungry yamantaka yamantaka of be tanka came
here kumchok tropa homes slayer tropa churns slayer tropa
yamantaka reside carrying informs reside hungry ghosts reside
kaspar's reside in anymore the yamantaka video doesn't map video
the yamantaka is video doesn't video own s/he came immedi own
s/he here immedi yamantaka kaspar's yamantaka yamantaka anymore
in yamantaka moma images moma carrying kaspar's moma resolve
resolve cords through resolve another resolve another another
resolve cords sees resolve anymore yamantaka's image yamantaka's
are image yamantaka's yamantaka routes image are routes but i
are routes tropa slayer routes yamantaka homes routes carrying
homes routes habitus homes routes midst hir corporeality
yamantaka of images plans yamantaka images yamantaka face plans
yamantaka articulation yamantaka construction yamantaka images
plans yamantaka plans plans yamantaka plans wanted sky face
plans plans dots yamantaka dots construction these dots
construction dots my construction dots avatar dots yamantaka it
a tanka be of yamantaka prayerwheels yamantaka slayer churns
yamantaka habitus yamantaka churns habitus yamantaka yamatantra2
ytalkrc habitus ytalkrc cords around based slayer think the
wanted face sky wanted plans face sky wanted yamantaka based
around but i are based around yamantaka on around kumchok here
s/he video is yamantaka the another through one the corporeality
own of the here s/he own of the corporeality hir of the image
yamantaka's i the yamantaka think the skin is think the
construction my the immedi came jampel immedi came corporeality
came kumchok here came in video doesn't one in is doesn't one
doesn't that one map doesn't that one habitus routes are
yamantaka of texture yamantaka of of texture another another
texture construction dots these avatar dots these articulation
these dots construction these kaspar's these these yamatantra3
yygif likewise yygif one yamantaka of the yamatantra1 of
yamantaka images of map yamantaka the of of that map is the of
texture texture of immedi came s/he own of kumchok here s/he own
of yamantaka map that of yamantaka in midst of yamantaka
carrying yamantaka carrying homes yamantaka carrying carrying
carrying routes homes carrying prayerwheels carrying reside
informs carrying ghosts carrying informs ghosts carrying routes
habitus carrying churns habitus carrying hungry carrying informs
hungry carrying is skin the one speech vocal sees speech
construction my the i vocal around based are i face sky wanted
but i face the i but i yamantaka's image think slayer tropa
kumchok own s/he here kumchok yamantaka jampel immedi jampel
came immedi jampel destroyer may tibetan yamantaka's anymore in
of one doesn't is in think the wanted sky in wanted the think is
skin articulation avatar articulation destroyer articulation in
yamantaka video map one one doesn't map yamantaka one that map
avatar sky face avatar dots avatar articulation avatar that
yamantaka another texture texture another map that of another
the one through another resolve another another texture another
another articulation avatar habitus churns slayer video is in
the of hir yamantaka midst hir video in midst hir yamantaka
kaspar's kaspar's kaspar's kaspar's texture resolve sees
yamantaka routes homes carrying yamantaka homes of yamatantra1
the homes the think slayer homes midst in yamantaka is here s/he
own of the is speech one vocal skin is through one the on is one
that doesn't map is yamantaka prayerwheels carrying prayerwheels
carrying informs carrying hungry informs the i yamantaka churns
likewise churns yamantaka slayer churns tropa slayer churns
yamantaka habitus churns carrying habitus churns yamantaka
ghosts reside ghosts prayerwheels habitus texture one doesn't
another yamantaka that yamantaka one that in is video map that
video map doesn't that yamantaka informs carrying yamatantra2 a
it corporeality hir midst yamatantra3 tibetan may yamantaka i
but i sky yamantaka sky the my anymore reside ghosts hungry
resolve another


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[NetBehaviour] The Long

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The Long

https://youtu.be/zbndUZBzNdc video

Typing eyes closed: I try to convey what this form of covid
feels like, everything in slow motion, odd sleep, odd anxiety,
amazingly happy I can continue working. In the background of the
video is an image of the qifteli or cifteli, this one an unusual
3-string instrument, I believe Albanian with an eagle pickguard.
It's a bit rough in the making, but not bad and the frets are
accurate. I try to convey the 'mood' or whatever I'm in pretty
much all the time, not moving slowly, but having to focus, which
isn't impossible at all, but behind it there's an absolute
despair, just as on the surface, but penetrating, there's a joy
in these long improvisations, even though mistakes may be
made... it's a steading pulsation for me, a continuous murmur,
humming and changing constantly, but not too much, i never know
whether to capitalize the I or not, or whether it matters. long
covid apparently has moments of imminent and black fatigue, i
have that, it's random, i lie down for a while, maybe even an
hour, day or night, then back to work, to thinking, to the joy
of being with Azure, to walking somewhere which oddly affects
the cycle and things are normal and happy for the outing, and so
forth. i write this because everything i read about long covid
talks in fragments, incompletions, the only thing that
characterizes it, like perhaps a Duras film, is duration, and it
may or may not go away, and treatments are localized, temporary,
experimental, problematic. i think of it as the body's
exhaustion with itself, as if a deep neutrality with the world
settles in, but for me, the energy is there, the creativity, the
nervousness, the obsessiveness, the working until i can't any
longer, the care with shaping whatever it is i'm working on, no
matter how many times i have to start again, the audio/visuals
accompanying the writing or the writing accompanying the audio/
visuals, the writing gathers itself, turns inward, convolves,
churns, something else, the mind at work with language itself,
the stuff of it, and i hope i have something to say in these
months and months, already these seven months of care above all,
not Heidegger's, but ordinary care, daily care, and I thank
Azure and my friends so much for that, as i we continue to
collaborate, i'm never finished with anything, i'm never

.. .. ..

7c7
 Typing eyes closed: I try to convey what this form of covid
---
 Typing eyes closed: I try to convey what this forom of covid
10c10
 video is an image of the qifteli or cifteli, this one an unusual
---
 video is an image of the gifteli or cifteli, this one an unuusal
12c12
 It's a bit rough in the making, but not bad and the frets are
---
 It's a bit fough in the making, but not bad and the frets are
23c23
 hour, day or night, then back to work, to thinking, to the joy
---
 hour, dayr or night, then back to work, to thinking, to thejoy
28c28
 characterizes it, like perhaps a Duras film, is duration, and it
---
 characterizes it, like perhaps a Dura film, is duration, and it
31c31
 exhaustion with itself, as if a deep neutrality with the world
---
 exhuastion with itself, as if a deep neutrality with the world
35c35
 matter how many times i have to start again, the audio/visuals
---
 matter how many times i mave to start again, the audio/visuals
1c41
 not Heidegger's, but ordinary care, daily care, and I thank
---
 not Heideggers, but ordinary care, daily care, and I thhank

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[NetBehaviour] we play

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

we play

https://youtu.be/onE8cgdiatU video

the image quality is horrendous as is my state of mind, it's
just a bit of long covid which i've been studying pretty much to
no effect; lots of good advice. for me, those sudden bouts of
exhaustion and some other minor inconveniences - the bouts
however are miserable, suddenly needing to sleep. in any case
well then, at the same time, the camera was acting up, as only
an older camera can, recording at 60 fps and somewhat
irreducible to less with similar clarity; what you see is what
you get but the soundtrack is there and strong. the more i read
on long covid, the less information is available, perhaps it's
not even what i'm dealing with, and speaking to specialists
hasn't helped at all. however, listen to the sound of the
instruments, plough through the already ploughed through image
if you like, you get the idea, another chapter (which i won't
write) for my covid book, o! gasp! :-)

i've been inspired to discuss some of the instruments i work
with, and in this video, which seems simple, almost nonsense, i
attempt to do that. the instruments were both 'rescues' - in
other words headed one way or another for destruction, and we
bought them, the 1917 Martin terz for $40, and the equally old,
most likely Larson Brothers parlor, for $25. the former was
literally teetering on a shelf in a junkroom of an antique
variety store, with a 'make me an offer' over the door; the
latter was being sold as a children's guitar in Wilkes-Barre,
for $25. both had bad bridges and were 'set up' with added
tailpieces and steel strings that were far too heavy. i was able
to have a new bridge made for the Larson Brothers, and the
original old one made serviceable on the Martin. both are tuned
low, with Nylgut strings. the Larsen Bros. is amazing for
recording; the Martin, for playing with a sense of intimacy. (i
think Marty Robbins was the only American popular musician who
used a terz publicly by the way.)

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[NetBehaviour] Two Interweaving Pieces by Maria Damon and Alan Sondheim

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Two Interweaving Pieces by Maria Damon and Alan Sondheim


Because its raining here in the park, clearly  already its time to go
again?
Im already out of breath from our last time. Jumping around like this.
Juniper a lovely  It st the best way to be! word a strange scent a
stranger taste.
Unless glissando is the only way to go, everything in music jumps,
jump-time
With resolute fortitude marching forward carrying the flags of utter
catastrophe!
Isnt this the worst way to proceed?
Ungoingly failing, unfailingly going where no one else wants to go.
I think thats the way to go, years and years ago in highschool was dancing
With PT and I was an idiot, swinging her around and then decided to see
What would happen if I let go
It is too jumpy.
It is dizzying.
It is distasteful.
It was distasteful, Ive never looked back.
Why am i here, among all these fabric sequences?
Nothing does what it is supposed to do. And it jumps around a lot.
Its too jumpy, isnt it? Perhaps it wouldnt be if we used periods to
Indicate pausing in our life, our fortitude, our embankments
What would happen if i lost use of my fingertips?
I would find a way to write with my tongue.
The tingling. The Red Flag of Marching to the Same Drummer!
Its too tingly, it doesnt fit the paradigm. Or two dimes and a nickel, a
quarter of the way
there
Its hard to type with your name on a little magenta flag sailing down the
river of the page
Youre gaining on me but not growing on me!
The drummer is dumber. Than what, you ask? No, i didnt ask.
A catastrophe has befallen the Stooges community. My work has been thrown
away.
Magenta is a color I do not understand
Magenta flags are magnetic, gathering multitudes into their husky hands.
Your busky fingertips are getting in my way. Im busking across the stage
of the screen of the page.
I pause, I take a turn. Im back on the dancefloor. Im listening to Terry
Allen over and
Over again, TA saved my life


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I'm at a loss, what does this mean? Blank with Alan THE CONSTITUTION OF
EGRESS
What is a blank? What exists before it disappears?
When I was a yellow tadpole in the bottom of a bathtub I nearly drowned,
my savior
Appeared in the form of a kind person who lifted me into the wellsprings
of life itself.
I lost the meaning. Blank is a state of expectation what has already
disappeared?
What was born to disappear by weather forces, the wind and rain, what
appeared, only from exhaustion? Too spent to regard anything as serious In
this world, seriousness is held in
Low esteem, better to cover everything: better the covert? Where we there?
Better the convict, better the convert. Don't predict me!
Why is the ground wet, from what? What is that liquid? From whom? Where?
Why?
Tears liquid fire - does fire tear tears apart? What sunders is asunder
O remembering
What the Thunder said: nothing, the roar drowning the semblance of speech
from
The tracks carrying semantics down the hill of nonsensical peregrination
Wherever the part of speech is indeterminate I undo myself in the tunnel
to be
Described, I am undone. To be undone:? Is one ever done in the first
place? Done on the dune by a dunce. And by an idiot. And by a nitwit. All
wit disappears down a swirling funnel which is a vertical tunnel. Where we
there?
In the culvert, nothing. In the tunnel, less. A funnel appears as if
theres ingress / egress
A tunnel would be a comfort in the last rain of the universe. A tunnel
like a hollow trunk that cradles homeless vagrants from elemental wrath of
the apocalypse
Tunnel vision gives the lie to that < exists in emptiness > disappears
In this room: the sound of machines, that is all. Footsteps above, as if
there were
Something. I keep thinking of Russia, rushing  into the cranium, the
crevice, the crevasse, an eternal abyss. / is the abyss a punctum as well,
is it a moment-monument of inconceivable
Weight, density? This machine, this typing machine, insists on
capitalization.
There is no proper correction. It is only a violation. Were we there?
It wasn't a lie, it was a line. It wasnt a linen, it was a lichen.
The congressional egress is the only safe way out. Capitalization is a lie
produced by
Reification, the cathedral of the unique or overarching power.
Way out people know the way out. Way out people leave, are left, disappear
to
Dis appear: to annihilate or criticize appearance? Lichen know that in
every conceivable
Form  a disappearance of substance, a melting away, a smelting, a
soldering, a soldiery.
What the tears said we're on fire! We carve our names into the landscape
like larvae. We carve our names into dying trees, bark without a byte not
a moment for digital, but
Crypto uses more electricity than most countries i cant name - Were we
there?
We crave a bit of anonymity in the welter of our flame. The flame burns
our anonymity.
Were craven in the face of our moral abyss which is not bliss.
The edifice of money worship, an architecture to be invaded.
Tear the limbs from the money trees, melt them into e

[NetBehaviour] Annoying Acrobatics

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Annoying Acrobatics

https://youtu.be/8X_2lCxE2wI video

Annoying acrobatics the way to escape the way, no illness here,
perfect magick and sigils at work in every crevice of the body
politic, what else could go right-wrong? Yes, and then some,
everything, everyone, on the move, SICKNESS GO AWAY.

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[NetBehaviour] everywhere there is music

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

everywhere there is music

https://youtu.be/3Ct4s2OQ-Wo video

everywhere you can hear weven when i can't see the keys typihng
mistaking and mistaken, everywhere music of the flagpoles by the
hasbro but the plaza by the garden by the street by the alley by
our home and everywhere there are hidden sounds in the debris of
sounds and with the kinds maybe 80 kph gusting and loud as the
cables slapped against the creaking poles or rather the poles
themselves creaked and nothing else mattered much but the
variable rates we might attain in the music not of spheres but
of linear segments in other ords 3d to 1d and what an evolution
in revolutiation but not entirely that as well, so many
paraemters and the poles shuddering and moaning and the clouds
fast as can be in front of the past headquarters of the enormous
childrens' conglomerate of toy productions , music everywhere
and i dedicate this to you john cage and your raincaot john cage
which you generously gave me in the enormous storm somewhere
down in the village discussing jazz and sound unto the night and
your generoisity knowing no bounds as does the wind's increasing
forces and we were listening and listening earlier and listening
and listening and listening and listening now



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[NetBehaviour] moon (black and white, silent, slow subtitles) 1914-1949-1952

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

moon (black and white, silent, slow subtitles) 1914-1949-1952

https://youtu.be/luyYQDZflbg (video)

j.t. and a.d. engaged in a thoughtful and silent, intense of a
discourse of names and delight, understanding everywhere, and!
almost a shining star on all fronts, quite short, could be from
1962, illustrative characters, oy weh, ist mir, but you did!
intense discourse of despair and cameraderie, misunderstanding
on all fronts, short, could be from 1923, cartoon characters,
yowee, kazoom, boom, you didn't mean !


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[NetBehaviour] Fwd: PLEASE SHARE--Release of Chant de la Sirene, Issue 4 on "Climate & Poetics"

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

*Announcing the release of*
Chant de la Sirène

*Journal of Poetics & the Hybrid Arts*

Issue 4
*Climate & Poetics*


Stunning *work by over 40 poets, visual artists, video-makers &
multimedia artists on the most important topic of our time, climate
change. *


*Edited by Laura Hinton  *
*Featured Artist, Issue 4, Giacomo Cuttone*

*
Go to the Issue 4 Introduction & Table of Contents *here
.*

Use the drop-down menu for Issue 4 to navigate pages by artist-writer
names.


*See list of CDLS Contributors here
. *

www.chantdelasirenejournal.com


*
*And stay tuned for Launch Reading event this March*
*
*Special Note: *
*This issue of CDLS is dedicated to the memory of beloved poets*
*Lyn Hejinian & Lennox Raphael*

[image: 4.jpg]
Acrylic painting by Giacomo Cuttone, "Oblique Gaze 2"


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*directory http://www.alansondheim.org  tel
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[NetBehaviour] long-necked saz solo

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

long-necked saz solo

https://youtu.be/WUm7Gr5JRfo video

which may comfort in a time of despair and need, such an
instrument! the neck itself a playing field, long to be sure, as
difficult as Messi on a long shot towards goal from the corner,
in! well, not that difficult, but enrapture, surroundings,
overtones and architecture and hope you enjoy listening to this
as much as I enjoyed improvising it!

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[NetBehaviour] dust search original face

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

dust search original face

https://youtu.be/U1x1vkRlcek video

alan dojoji in the thicket where is the face / what is the face
/ what face is the original face / they have none of that / they
will have none of that / it's complicated it's dust / it's the
granularity of dust / of the pixel / of their presence / outside
there's creaming / who or what rubs what raw where then / it's a
convenience / grit / sinter / every sand grain i observed w/ the
SEM had an ecology / a biome / where is the face / the original
face / what lacks / what lacks the face is the face / is the
original / of which there is none / no one / none / cleansing
dust / ropes of sound / ancient sarangi / roars / growls /
screeches / we'll have one of this none of that we'll have the
clean and proper body won't we / the body driven by anxiety /
the body hiding / hidden / outside the screaming's /louder /
louder and louder / searching for alan dojoji / original face /
before the face is the face above the face is the face beyond
the face is the face below the face is the face / through the
face is nothing / return through the face is nothing / above the
face is nothing / below the face is nothing / beyond the face is
nothing / within the face is nothing / the dust the red dust /
within the dust the red dust / is nothing / without the dust is
nothing / within nothing is nothing / within nothing is nothing
/  // /  ///   / //  ///   /   /   /


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Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues

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In a sense the complexity has no "floor" - that is, no fundamental raster 
or connectivity - it's completely analog, oozing, and that's a different 
form of engagement. setup time for example may be minimal; if I want to 
work on an improvisation, I may well just pick up an instrument and begin. 
There's also a diffrent level of care - no updating, but continuous 
tuning, maintenance, etc., on the instrument as something close to 
"living" in its environment. We keep humidifiers going, for example, in 
the winter, since the wood breathes and may crack -


On Thu, 29 Feb 2024, Mark Hancock wrote:


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 17:23:00 +
From: Mark Hancock 
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
    
Cc: Alan Sondheim 
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues

>>More than you asked for! 


Heh, not at all i find it fascinating. As someone who just dabbles* with
Ableton, field recordings and whatever Arduino device I can connect, it?s
really interesting to understand analog instruments and their heritage and
the complexity of playing them.

M

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 at 16:35, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
 wrote:


  Hi Mark,

  Now that you ask... Nylon is easier on the fingers than steel,
  and harder
  to 'twang' - it's subtle in a different way. And there's nylon
  and nylon -
  originally strings were gut and on some instruments I use Nylgut
  which
  imitates the acoustic properties of gut but is another
  composition
  altogether. It's easier to bend notes with steel strings, a
  displacement
  sideways of steel (or composition) raises the pitch to a greater
  extent
  thann the displacement of nylon (or composition). I have a very
  old gambus
  here from near Nepal with the original strings - they're very
  thin gut and
  I'm afraid if I play it, they'll break.

  With the guqin or qin, it's other issues. They should be played
  with gut
  strings, relatively low tension. Under Mao, who was responsible
  for the
  dstruction of 300 antique qin, which went back centuries, the
  qin was
  'modernized' to take steel strings. My two qin have steel
  strings, even
  though one is centuries old; the gut strings tend to break and I
  don't
  have the physical strength to replace them (another story). I
  have a
  friend who plays and teaches a number of instruments; he has gut
  strings
  on his reproduction medieval instruments.

  The blues always used metal - it was what was available, but the
  strings
  bent for the blues notes as well. And I don't want to say
  'always' for
  that matter, not sure of that. Electric guitars of course need
  metal
  strings but you can electrify a classical guitar as well with
  contact/
  vibration mics.

  My sazs are all metal strings, as are my Albanian gifteli. The
  saz is very
  very easy on the fingers.

  The oud uses nylon or gut strings but a related instrument, used
  in local
  Jewish musics, the cobza or kobza, uses very light gauge metal
  strings.

  Old-timey banjos can go either way; mine has nylon or nylgut
  strings
  (forget which now, like the latter more), bluegrass banjos
  always use
  metal strings for their percussive quality.

  The whole mandolin family, metal.

  More than you asked for! :-)

  Best, Alan

  On Thu, 29 Feb 2024, Mark Hancock wrote:

  > Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 10:39:58 +
  > From: Mark Hancock 
  > Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
  >     
  > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
  >     
  > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues
  >
  > Hey Alan,
  > That's really interesting. Any differences as a player between
  nylon and
  > steel? Apart from the twang?
  >
  > Bloody long covid, what a nightmare it all is. Hope you're
  finding some
  > respite, or solace from it all.
      >
  > Mark
  >
  > On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 22:13, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
  >  wrote:
  >       Hi Mark,
  >
  > The music is from a while ago, unfortunately my playing now is
  > stranger, more angular.
  > It was a steel string guitar, I still do blues on a nylon
  string
  > banjo, mainly for myself, but it doesn't have the 'twang.'
  > Years ago I remember finding a steel-body National guitar for
  Son
  > House through Al Wilson.
  > I got infected by free jazz.
  > Spoke too soon about being over long covid; today was one of
  the worst
  > days.
  >
  > Best, Alan, exhausted and so glad you liked the music!
  >
  > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 4:

Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Complex as anything else, just looks simpler. On the other hand hearing a
child play a plastic ukulele which in no way can be used with bad fret
alignment just makes me wish they'd taken up Arduino.
In a combination of this btw, I did a LOT of work recording atmospheric and
other sounds with extremely low frequency radios; I still have the
equipment here and hope to use it again. The earth itself 'sings,'
especially lightning...

Alan

On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 12:23 PM Mark Hancock  wrote:

> >>More than you asked for!
>
>
> Heh, not at all i find it fascinating. As someone who just dabbles* with
> Ableton, field recordings and whatever Arduino device I can connect, it’s
> really interesting to understand analog instruments and their heritage and
> the complexity of playing them.
>
> M
>
> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 at 16:35, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Now that you ask... Nylon is easier on the fingers than steel, and harder
>> to 'twang' - it's subtle in a different way. And there's nylon and nylon
>> -
>> originally strings were gut and on some instruments I use Nylgut which
>> imitates the acoustic properties of gut but is another composition
>> altogether. It's easier to bend notes with steel strings, a displacement
>> sideways of steel (or composition) raises the pitch to a greater extent
>> thann the displacement of nylon (or composition). I have a very old
>> gambus
>> here from near Nepal with the original strings - they're very thin gut
>> and
>> I'm afraid if I play it, they'll break.
>>
>> With the guqin or qin, it's other issues. They should be played with gut
>> strings, relatively low tension. Under Mao, who was responsible for the
>> dstruction of 300 antique qin, which went back centuries, the qin was
>> 'modernized' to take steel strings. My two qin have steel strings, even
>> though one is centuries old; the gut strings tend to break and I don't
>> have the physical strength to replace them (another story). I have a
>> friend who plays and teaches a number of instruments; he has gut strings
>> on his reproduction medieval instruments.
>>
>> The blues always used metal - it was what was available, but the strings
>> bent for the blues notes as well. And I don't want to say 'always' for
>> that matter, not sure of that. Electric guitars of course need metal
>> strings but you can electrify a classical guitar as well with contact/
>> vibration mics.
>>
>> My sazs are all metal strings, as are my Albanian gifteli. The saz is
>> very
>> very easy on the fingers.
>>
>> The oud uses nylon or gut strings but a related instrument, used in local
>> Jewish musics, the cobza or kobza, uses very light gauge metal strings.
>>
>> Old-timey banjos can go either way; mine has nylon or nylgut strings
>> (forget which now, like the latter more), bluegrass banjos always use
>> metal strings for their percussive quality.
>>
>> The whole mandolin family, metal.
>>
>> More than you asked for! :-)
>>
>> Best, Alan
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024, Mark Hancock wrote:
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 10:39:58 +
>> > From: Mark Hancock 
>> > Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>> > 
>> > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>> > 
>> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues
>> >
>> > Hey Alan,
>> > That's really interesting. Any differences as a player between nylon and
>> > steel? Apart from the twang?
>> >
>> > Bloody long covid, what a nightmare it all is. Hope you're finding some
>> > respite, or solace from it all.
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 22:13, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
>> >  wrote:
>> >   Hi Mark,
>> >
>> > The music is from a while ago, unfortunately my playing now is
>> > stranger, more angular.
>> > It was a steel string guitar, I still do blues on a nylon string
>> > banjo, mainly for myself, but it doesn't have the 'twang.'
>> > Years ago I remember finding a steel-body National guitar for Son
>> > House through Al Wilson.
>> > I got infected by free jazz.
>> > Spoke too soon about being over long covid; today was one of the worst
>> > days.
>> >
>> > Best, Alan, exhausted and so glad you liked the music!
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 4:15?AM Mark Hancock 
>> > wrote:
>> >  

Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi Mark,

Now that you ask... Nylon is easier on the fingers than steel, and harder 
to 'twang' - it's subtle in a different way. And there's nylon and nylon - 
originally strings were gut and on some instruments I use Nylgut which 
imitates the acoustic properties of gut but is another composition 
altogether. It's easier to bend notes with steel strings, a displacement 
sideways of steel (or composition) raises the pitch to a greater extent 
thann the displacement of nylon (or composition). I have a very old gambus 
here from near Nepal with the original strings - they're very thin gut and 
I'm afraid if I play it, they'll break.


With the guqin or qin, it's other issues. They should be played with gut 
strings, relatively low tension. Under Mao, who was responsible for the 
dstruction of 300 antique qin, which went back centuries, the qin was 
'modernized' to take steel strings. My two qin have steel strings, even 
though one is centuries old; the gut strings tend to break and I don't 
have the physical strength to replace them (another story). I have a 
friend who plays and teaches a number of instruments; he has gut strings 
on his reproduction medieval instruments.


The blues always used metal - it was what was available, but the strings 
bent for the blues notes as well. And I don't want to say 'always' for 
that matter, not sure of that. Electric guitars of course need metal 
strings but you can electrify a classical guitar as well with contact/ 
vibration mics.


My sazs are all metal strings, as are my Albanian gifteli. The saz is very 
very easy on the fingers.


The oud uses nylon or gut strings but a related instrument, used in local 
Jewish musics, the cobza or kobza, uses very light gauge metal strings.


Old-timey banjos can go either way; mine has nylon or nylgut strings 
(forget which now, like the latter more), bluegrass banjos always use 
metal strings for their percussive quality.


The whole mandolin family, metal.

More than you asked for! :-)

Best, Alan

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024, Mark Hancock wrote:


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 10:39:58 +
From: Mark Hancock 
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues

Hey Alan,
That's really interesting. Any differences as a player between nylon and
steel? Apart from the twang?

Bloody long covid, what a nightmare it all is. Hope you're finding some
respite, or solace from it all.

Mark

On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 22:13, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
 wrote:
  Hi Mark,

The music is from a while ago, unfortunately my playing now is
stranger, more angular.
It was a steel string guitar, I still do blues on a nylon string
banjo, mainly for myself, but it doesn't have the 'twang.'
Years ago I remember finding a steel-body National guitar for Son
House through Al Wilson.
I got infected by free jazz.
Spoke too soon about being over long covid; today was one of the worst
days.

Best, Alan, exhausted and so glad you liked the music!

On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 4:15?AM Mark Hancock 
wrote:
  I love that guitar sound, Alan. I need more of that,
  please!

Reminds me (in my limited cultural references) of the guitar on
Psychic TV?s A Pagan Day album.


Glad you?re on the mend, that was my favourite verse.

Mark


On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 04:48, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
 wrote:


  long covid blues

  https://youtu.be/c8zWeSeZDvM video

  i got the long covid blues
  i got the long covid blues
  any way you choose
  i got those long long covid blues

  wake up this morning in the middle of the night
  wake up this morning in the middle of the night
  looking for the sunlight sight long covid fright

  wake up in midday nothing left to lose
  wake up in midday nothing left to lose
  got those long longer longest long covid blues

  they say there's nowhere to go but down the covid
  hall
  doctor comes i said yesterday maybe had a fall
  i said maybe something else can't remember at all
  said maybe that was it maybe was a fall

  i got the long covid blues
  i got the long covid blues
  any way you choose
  i got those long covid blues

  --- >>>> *

  * although i seem to be getting well and pulling
  through
  * anyway you look the mood's a lot less blue

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Viola Braguesa blues and the debris of the somewhat

https://youtu.be/Xc6h2O3nO4Y video music la la

Viola Braguesa and the blues and a skip and a jump and there you
are and there we are and yes long covid returned firecely today
and this piece made me between betwen bouts this piece bade me
come forth come hither bury your face in the plankton the
diatoms the skeletal debris of the world that created you and i
returned yes mistress i will obey the nights of the round tablet
and any order that have persuant to that be given as such and
thereby lies the rub of coming forth self among the skeletal and
as deep language models show skeletal and self construction come
forth yes come forth again yes master among the same debris the
debris of the somewhat the debris of the somewhen never
somewhere always somehere always here

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Re: [NetBehaviour] live coding + net art poetry tonight life streaming

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

This is fantastic, thank you so much! -

- Alan

On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 5:33 AM Annie Abrahams via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> Life coding by eerieear aka *Sebastian Pappalardo* combined wih Net Art
> Poetry Being Human by *Annie Abrahams* in an experimental Improvised
> Music event at WORM Rotterdam.
> Life Streamed via EulerRoom:
> https://youtu.be/h97GccsU4K8
> 
> From 20h30 CET with also Felipe Ignacio Noriega, Rafaele Andrade, Lam Lai
> and Raphael Sousa Santos. We will be on around 21h15 CET.
>
> :)
> Excited to do this, back to the roots.
> Best
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Re: [NetBehaviour] long covid blues

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi Mark,

The music is from a while ago, unfortunately my playing now is stranger,
more angular.
It was a steel string guitar, I still do blues on a nylon string banjo,
mainly for myself, but it doesn't have the 'twang.'
Years ago I remember finding a steel-body National guitar for Son House
through Al Wilson.
I got infected by free jazz.
Spoke too soon about being over long covid; today was one of the worst days.

Best, Alan, exhausted and so glad you liked the music!

On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 4:15 AM Mark Hancock  wrote:

> I love that guitar sound, Alan. I need more of that, please!
>
> Reminds me (in my limited cultural references) of the guitar on Psychic
> TV’s A Pagan Day album.
>
>
> Glad you’re on the mend, that was my favourite verse.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 04:48, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> long covid blues
>>
>> https://youtu.be/c8zWeSeZDvM video
>>
>> i got the long covid blues
>> i got the long covid blues
>> any way you choose
>> i got those long long covid blues
>>
>> wake up this morning in the middle of the night
>> wake up this morning in the middle of the night
>> looking for the sunlight sight long covid fright
>>
>> wake up in midday nothing left to lose
>> wake up in midday nothing left to lose
>> got those long longer longest long covid blues
>>
>> they say there's nowhere to go but down the covid hall
>> doctor comes i said yesterday maybe had a fall
>> i said maybe something else can't remember at all
>> said maybe that was it maybe was a fall
>>
>> i got the long covid blues
>> i got the long covid blues
>> any way you choose
>> i got those long covid blues
>>
>> --- >>>> *
>>
>> * although i seem to be getting well and pulling through
>> * anyway you look the mood's a lot less blue
>>
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[NetBehaviour] long covid blues

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

long covid blues

https://youtu.be/c8zWeSeZDvM video

i got the long covid blues
i got the long covid blues
any way you choose
i got those long long covid blues

wake up this morning in the middle of the night
wake up this morning in the middle of the night
looking for the sunlight sight long covid fright

wake up in midday nothing left to lose
wake up in midday nothing left to lose
got those long longer longest long covid blues

they say there's nowhere to go but down the covid hall
doctor comes i said yesterday maybe had a fall
i said maybe something else can't remember at all
said maybe that was it maybe was a fall

i got the long covid blues
i got the long covid blues
any way you choose
i got those long covid blues

---  *

* although i seem to be getting well and pulling through
* anyway you look the mood's a lot less blue

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[NetBehaviour] KREATOR

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

KREATOR

https://youtu.be/VYimrldZ52g video

I am this is you are we are they are the creator KREATOR of the
world. The creator of the world makes the sound of the world the
sound of the world is not present the sound of the world is not
pleasant the sound of the world is umm present the sound of the
world is unpleasant the sound of the world is not the world the
sound of the world makes the world the world is made by the
sound within the world the world is made with the sound within
itself. Karma karma karma karma karma karma . You here see
here the sound of the world which is not pleasant . The sound of
the world which is not present is not pleasant. If the sound of
the world were pleasant it would be sound for you not sound that
makes you. This sound makes you. This sound makes the world. It
is the sound which is of the world and makes the world that this
is in. This is the sound of the cry or the shriek. This is a
sound below your hearing and above your hearing. This is the
sound of the KREATOR. This is the sound of the crater sound this
is the sound of the creator sound this is the sound of the Cora
this is the sound of the Kraken the sound of the dryland Kraken
the sound of the wetland Kraken the sound of the air Kraken the
sound of the Kraken of the ocean .My sound holds the world up my
sound is the sound of the crack and the Kraken holds the world
up I hold your sound up I hold you up your sound holds me up the
cracken holds up everything . Within and without the sound is
the sound. This is the difference and the difficult of the
sound. The sound is always within the sound. The sound is always
the sound is always.

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[NetBehaviour] tremulous cool and down (2nd of the series)

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

tremulous cool and down

https://youtu.be/KG8KvP7qQcc video

tonight i almost lost the virtual world software i need to get
on which means in reality losing the proper interface which kept
acting up. it was like that. it was like that and like that. and
then it came to me with hte aid of the creature that appeaars
here, tremulous and down as i so often now are am and then they
told me and nothing but then they did walk from the surface to
the air and from the air to the air and the interval and then to
the interval and they dod half land somewhere and then there was
that space and the hum of something or was it that or something
sleeping perfectly without only but a single breath and all the
others were jealous and all were invisible and neti neti yet
again not here not there, and not everywhere as well and they
were happy and then the fall and the wall and all and they they
were done with the making done with the making of it and i was
done with them and the wall and the making and all were soothing
this is all right alan this is all right be calm and thoughtful
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[NetBehaviour] https://youtu.be/lkhx2ITFNVg video

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

e-mission

https://youtu.be/lkhx2ITFNVg video

jt and the ring and the impossibility of reproducing the
interiority elsewhere in the world, it's harrowing tremulous
shattering early on i knew the meaning of shard found them in
on a path here too obsidian early clary granularity yayoi from
the river fukuoka pieces in jerusalem everywhere the past always
broken as the present continues breakage, nothing is long for
this world , everything longing for the world, the shattering of
inversion & the topology of the world - sinters - ruptures -
disinetgartion alphabetics , when the text devolves, cuneiform
breaking against (these) objects , slow erosion of strokes ,
sand grains containing a whole lot of 'em , other scratchings,
formulationis, this txt rotting from the inside out, from the
outside in, from the interior to the exterior, from the exterior
in then there's the torus devolving , that is that _thing_ -
what constitutes a thing _ nothing to learn from the river bed,
everywhere carries everything, perishing, perish the thought ,
antiarticulation , not chomsky but tran duc thao investigations
into the origin of language and consciousness , infolding,
expansive geometries of concealment , ministrations , collapse ,
to be sure there will always be sound, of any fequency,
ministration, carrier, what remains , ministrations , dirts,
proxies ...


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[NetBehaviour] GALACTIC GUARDIANS IN SECOND LIFE RECLAIMED TERRITORY

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

GALACTIC GUARDIANS IN SECOND LIFE RECLAIMED TERRITORY

https://youtu.be/huddrGVeDOk video

Like the guardians are coming to get you, and they're in there a
spaceship, and a ready to take off and come and protected
Galaxy, and they're running out of fuel and they're being
attacked by a monster, and you can sometimes you can see or hear
the monsters but anyway. I saw they're sitting in a spaceship
there. There's a male one and there's a female 1. And the both
as they take terms, you know, and watching things and.  It's
usual landing place that they've always had, and they're very
comfortable in it and remarkably comfortable in that in that
landing place, and they don't even have to look out the window
very much to see what's going on period so thislike a different
it's like a different kind of narrative that they're used to
telling because there should be some excitement in this instead
of that galactic guardians are sitting around, but that's mostly
what collector guardians do they just sit around? And I wanted
to focus on the depth.  And the tragedy of their focusing thing,
incredible sadness. They feel away from home and I wanted to
make sure that their emotion national state was very clear. And
they're very, very fragile people and a period so you have to be
careful around them. Because the galactic warriors isn't there
guardianship? You know when it's just, it's just so tiring to.
Do this that they can hardly stay away, and in fact, I don't
think they can stay awake at all. So you know, you don't don't
expect very much movement in this and they I'll take turns that
there's a Julu and there's Allen jojitas and some other debris
they're not used to asservating when no one's around and they're
stuck still and think we're not paid enough to be here and maybe
there's work over there in the other compound or something like
that and some kind of neutral ground that they're on, and
they're guarding the Galaxy, and they're not doing much because
nobody's really attacking the Galaxy, and so they're very
comfortable there. And a little bit, it looks like Palm Beach,
but it isn't somewhere in and out of space. And.  Then I'll
maybe the greater magellanic cloud is something like that. I
don't know OK. Well, hope you enjoy this report and take it for
what it is. Which is a kind of truth and depth about how we must
prepare the Earth for invaders. And what is going to look like
when they attack (how do you attack a galaxy you get a couple of
guys and there's one o n one side and one on the other side and
they they come together somewhere in the middle and that about
does it, you gotta do this when no one's looking but no one
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[NetBehaviour] Yawning Gulf

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Yawning Gulf

https://youtu.be/rGCqIRVDTqI video

Thee gulf yawns, yes, we wyll witnesse thee planet yonder
thee swallows us, so many yeee years before when theee planet
swallows us, no tales foretold, shakuhachi @ thee Library of
Congress Ingress Regress, thee daddy listening to Nieue Musick
in thee world, O Mistakes to have made 'em and not made 'em to
unmake 'em and not to have unmade 'em * this not knot theory,
she said walking to the wyndow, thee is something else and not a
moment to loose, thee understood and thee musick went on (stage)
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Protostructure(s)

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Thank you so much for this! I was using the term 'protostructure' to
reference situations which are so complex that visually they seem organized
but where organization is coupled with fractals at best. I was also using
it poetically of course.
Thinking not of D but of fractals and noise. With the video, there's
coupling between camera and subjects, high wind moving the camera,
different winds moving the ducks, local linkages between ducks on or under
the surface and so forth. With the ducks themselves, it wasn't like boids
or swarms but individual submersive activities in relation to prey
movement, another regime. The more independent systems (with noise) you
have, the more irregular the movement in the small... And then there's the
issue that for me 'protostructure' also refers to an attempt to 'make
sense' of it all - and I wonder if there's a theory of 'making sense' -
Schutz's relevance theory comes to mind, but that doesn't deal with
inordinate complexities -

Downloaded the article and will follow through -

Best, Alan


On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 7:19 AM Anthony Stephenson via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> re:
> >
> > Protostructure(s)
> >
> In parallel universes, we have  both  Assemblage and Assembly Theory,
> the latter being a “theory to be sufficiently general to apply to a
> wide variety of other systems including polymers, cell morphology,
> graphs, images, computer programs, human languages and memes, as well
> as many others” in which bio-physical reasoning seems to mix and match
> ideas found in Object-Oriented Ontology and Deleuze & Guittari.
> https://go.nature.com/3Qim0X7
>
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[NetBehaviour] Protostructure(s)

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Protostructure(s)

https://youtu.be/mhIsq4Qh7d0 video

everywhere everywhere one looks among those, there is
protostructure, assemblage, chaos, debris, irritability, destiny,
gatherings, impositions, remappings, noise analyses, everywhere
there is the subtlety of post-priori organization, as if the
book of nature existed, as if it were page-numbered in fact and
fantasy, and it is this gathering from which culture emerges,
just as Tran duc Thao's gesture or gesture-semantics was the
precursor of, was, language, language embodied , and here among
the startlings slight collapse of snow and ice assemblages near
the ocean on a raw day, the slightest shiver of the wind
announces itself, doubles itself, sound and sight, image and
sound, as if these were separable, united only in the signifier
of the natural at all levels, from subatomic to the universe,
tremblings, slightest and most delicate movement at times, and
everything and nothing changes, Sartre is sitting at a cafe, a
waiter approaches, one writes at the margin of the letter




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Re: [NetBehaviour] Postmodernism (tangent) Re:apologies (Brey)

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi Brey,

Thank you for writing. I think there are so many terms - deconstruction is
another, phenomenology, critical , and so forth  - where the meaning is
up for grabs. When I look at Deleuze and Guattari today for example, I get
lost in what could only be (I think) metaphoricity itself. It's what makes
semantics so fascinating and so irritating at the same time. ...

Best, Alan

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 2:00 PM Brey Tucker via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> Alan,
>
> Quite on the contrary, I think I would enjoy your class very much. Seeing
> the full context of your definition for postmodernism was fascinating and I
> don't doubt it was a shared concept among a good contingent of
> intellectuals. I really liked :
>
>> Semiotic emissions of symbols which appear sourceless and undirected
>> (Disneyland effect).
>>
>
> My, now quite meta, criticism was just that the word "postmodernism" is
> awash with many definitions and contexts in what I'll jokingly refer to as
> our "modern" times. Even modern-architecture is starting to fray as a
> concrete definition.
>
> I also teach and write, (usually techno babble) to cyberpunks, architects
> and engineers, "definitioning" of terms is a verb I often use to ensure the
> act of word grounding occurs in the realms of intellectual discourse. It's
> a practice that comes from writing code where word interpretation quickly
> leads to the mind-body problem and bugs.
>
> Re:apology
> I'm sorry to hear you're having rough times. I hope this too shall pass.
>
> Cheers,
> Brey
>
>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 12:42:14 -0800
>> From: Brey Tucker 
>> To: netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org
>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Leonardo vs. Machiavelli: The Mediocrity
>> of Evil and a New Saint Genevieve (Brey Tucker)
>> Message-ID:
>> > mpoce...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I just wanted to follow up on Alan's criticism of the word use of
>> "postmodernism", which I found to be even more of a misuse of the word
>> than
>> the more obvious use in Max Herman's piece. Semantic shifts are
>> unavoidable
>> but just in case it's not widely experienced information...
>> Postmodernism's
>> word use definitively started in art, as a way to define the departure
>> from
>> French Impressionism by John Watkins Chapman back in 1870. Its most
>> agreeable definitions are in painting and architecture.
>>
>> Intellectually, in reference to society, I would argue that Max Herman's
>> use is still more applicable than South American favelas as the context of
>> the piece was centered on "modernity", especially with its identity in
>> European culture and democracy, etc. being much closer to the
>> original publication of Arnold J. Tynbee's 1939 essay that stated, "Our
>> own
>> Post-Modern Age has been inaugurated by the general war of 1914-1918".
>>
>> I would argue any use of the word "postmodern" or such variation of
>> "modernity" would require time to define its context as the word use is
>> extremely varied now across topics such as hyperreality, simulacrum and
>> objective reality. I quite enjoyed the way Max took the time to define it
>> and use it, albeit a departure from how I generally conjure postmodernism
>> in my mind.
>>
>> Alan, you're rich with great ideas and interesting conversation but I
>> would
>> have expected more of a criticism defending Machiavelli's positive
>> contributions to society with the need for acceptance of cruel realities
>> than this niche use of a common word.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brey
>> --
>> >
>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 12:58:07 -0500
>> > From: Alan Sondheim 
>> > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>> > 
>> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Leonardo vs. Machiavelli: The Mediocrity
>> > of Evil and a New Saint Genevieve
>> > Message-ID:
>> > > > pi2brr4caymwbe6dskawxhuleabmax87yvkwxboqxcv7...@mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Just want to point out I've taught and published and lectured on
>> > postmodernism, and videos I co-created with Dawja Burris dealt with the
>> > subject in El Paso and Ciudad Juarez an

[NetBehaviour] apologies

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

apologies to everyone, it's been a very rough couple of days

best, alan
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[NetBehaviour] Pomo

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

For what it's worth, I found the following, which was used in courses and
talks I was giving on the subject way back then. I don't want to defend it
now; it's way out of date. Thanks, Alan

ostmodern Checklist


(I used this for teaching - and still use versions of it; it's only an
outline but at least provides a basis for discussion - Alan)


>From modernity to postmodernity, the following processes occur, primarily
within post-industrial societies:


Transformation of society from industrial to service to information econ-
omy.

Transformation from analog to digital processing technologies.

Transformation from knowledge to knowledge management, and from knowledge
management to the articulation of fragmentary flows of information.

Exponential growth of knowledge and emergence of the knowledge industry.

Increased ad hoc attitudes towards labor, coupled with vocational disin-
vestment (i.e. flexiwork).

Transformation from late capitalism to ad hoc transnational managerial
capitalism and bricolage entrepreneurialism in post-industrial nations.

Weakening of the nation state and growth of bricolage governance (local
mafias).

Replacement of essentialisms by constructivisms, combined with the hard-
ening of essentialist positions as a rearguard action (i.e. backlash to
the woman's movement).

Breakdown of materialist/idealist distinctions.

Increasingly reified ethnicities, political consciousness and symbolic
capital stressing 'traditional' geographic boundaries (homelands), at
times coupled with anti-development attitudes.

Increased breakdown and reification of traditional models of public and
private (personal) relationships (sexual, civic, social, institutional).

Proliferation of entertainment forms tending towards technological ef-
fect (representations, media, programming) and distribution channels re-
sulting in the breakdown of network hegemonies (Internet diffused gov-
ernance for example).

Proliferation of information flows into the private spaces such as the
home, the body, etc.

Semiotic transformations from inscriptive (hardened, maintained, stable)
processes to fissuring (weakened, stuttering, pre-oedipal/symbolic, de-
stabilized) and fissuring regimes.

Likewise from classical matter (stabilized signifier/sememe demarcations)
to non-classical matter (problematic signifiers, significations).

Increased leakage of the signifier (excesses, supplement).

Increasing jostling of signifying regimes within information flows.

Increased incommensurabilities, including languages, teleologies, and
scripts.

Problematizing of space-time and stable categorizations.

Development of mathematics of non-classical spaces (monster curves, frac-
tals, catastrophe theory, chaos theory, eccentric or abject spaces).

Mathematico-physical inclusion of disorder.

Development of "intermaths" (massive parallel processes (Bailey)), with a
tendency towards discrete, computational, digital, mathematical develop-
ment (four-color theorem, reliance on the computer, artificial life).

Endocolonization everywhere, coupled with the manufacturing of romanti-
cisms (not only among minority ethnicities but also among the left - i.e.
the "radical" effect of Wired magazine).

Increased gaps between richer and poorer, in terms of both economic and
cultural/informational capital.

Emergence of subcultural-noise cultural phenomena, simultaneously using
micro-technologies (pirate radio) and abjuring technology altogether.

Ecological destabilizations and managerial or fundamentalist responses.

Intensification of apocalyptic and survivalist subcultures.

Increasing rhetorical/idiolectical emissions and distorted communica-
tions.

Increased problematic or property in general (including the technology of
reproduction, birthing; intellectual property; farmlands).

Increased development of _discursive fields_ and their receptors, and
their interpenetrations (hypertext, punk rock).

Simultaneously totalization of universal (computational) languages and
functional idiolectical autonomies, the commodification of idiolects
(rants, serial murders, dualities).

A = A (Shelling's identity, totality) replaced by 0 = {X: x not-= x} (the
null set as equivalent to the set of those x not equal to themselves -
displacement and slippage).

Semiotic emissions of symbols which appear sourceless and undirected
(Disneyland effect).

Stabilized "rigid" objects replaced by part-objects, incompletions,
fragments.

Transformation from cultural hegemonies taken for granted (with their
associated margins) to competitive multiculturalisms within hegemonic
regimes.

Advent of microelectronics expanding the tacit environment of the body,
tending towards full (seamless) virtual realities.

Seamless virtual realities as the current _horizon_ of the technological
subject.

Destabilization of world economies coupled with exponential population
growth.

Increased reduction of DNA variability, increased toxicity of the planet.

Massive plant and animal extinctions.

Re: [NetBehaviour] Leonardo vs. Machiavelli: The Mediocrity of Evil and a New Saint Genevieve (Brey Tucker)

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi Brey,

I'm sorry you found it a misuse. You'll find references to Toynbee and
social movements; I don't have the references here at this point, but some
were from Latin America. It was used widely to indicate social movements
and informal economies as well as cultural transformations. For you there
are agreeable definitions, they aren't for me. When I taught postmodernism
(and I'm sure you'd find the course a horror) we focused on art, yes - I
taught in art depts. - but the wider social movements were critical. The
"word use" started in a lot of different disciplines, I don't know what an
"agreeable definition" is - perhaps agreeable for you, perhaps we should
take a vote? In any case, I found Max Herman's piece dismissive and
conservative in a way that for me, and for the writers I was teaching,
would have been problematic. I did edit an issue of Art Papers way back
then (Art/crit mag from Atlanta still going strong) on Postmodernism, which
certainly went way beyond art per se; it might be available somewhere. If
you find I'm misusing the word, I'll defer to you at this point. I do
remember using Leotard among other theorists btw at the time - I might be
able to dig out the essay or biblio.

Alan

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 3:44 PM Brey Tucker via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I just wanted to follow up on Alan's criticism of the word use of
> "postmodernism", which I found to be even more of a misuse of the word than
> the more obvious use in Max Herman's piece. Semantic shifts are unavoidable
> but just in case it's not widely experienced information... Postmodernism's
> word use definitively started in art, as a way to define the departure from
> French Impressionism by John Watkins Chapman back in 1870. Its most
> agreeable definitions are in painting and architecture.
>
> Intellectually, in reference to society, I would argue that Max Herman's
> use is still more applicable than South American favelas as the context of
> the piece was centered on "modernity", especially with its identity in
> European culture and democracy, etc. being much closer to the
> original publication of Arnold J. Tynbee's 1939 essay that stated, "Our own
> Post-Modern Age has been inaugurated by the general war of 1914-1918".
>
> I would argue any use of the word "postmodern" or such variation of
> "modernity" would require time to define its context as the word use is
> extremely varied now across topics such as hyperreality, simulacrum and
> objective reality. I quite enjoyed the way Max took the time to define it
> and use it, albeit a departure from how I generally conjure postmodernism
> in my mind.
>
> Alan, you're rich with great ideas and interesting conversation but I
> would have expected more of a criticism defending Machiavelli's positive
> contributions to society with the need for acceptance of cruel realities
> than this niche use of a common word.
>
> Cheers,
> Brey
>
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 at 03:01, 
> wrote:
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>>   New Saint Genevieve (Alan Sondheim)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 16:01:37 +
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>> Subject: [NetBehaviour] Leonardo vs. Machiavelli: The Mediocrity of
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>>
>> The modern world has problems.  No longer ancient and starting sort of
>> from scratch, no longer medieval with short lifespans and a simple
>> church

[NetBehaviour] Blues for Al Wilson

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Blues for Al Wilson

https://youtu.be/nao6cvwrRpo video

i keep thinking of you way before Canned Heat, whenyou were in
Cambridge and I was driving you around and you were teaching me
patiently the blues, especially the Delta, history aand it took,
they took , my breath away and i type as usual w/ closed eyes
remembering you and your apartment and the garbage inside and
out and the knocking on thd door and feces in the hall and all
that was going on and backing up through the redlight again and
worried about and know you were the real thing, not your depth
of knowledge but the way you carried music in your being and
what an influence that had on me and my guitar playing which was
changed forever and you showing h=me how to tune and tune and
then there were so many others around the time and I breathed
the blues, Delta mainly and then knew it wasn't my music but for
me was and still is the fundamental american music, something i
could never have conceived of, and al of those great musicians,
Son House who I was so honored to meet, and on and on and that
had nothing for me to do with reading scales but playing,
immersing inthe music , and everything changed for me and then
of course Europe and Rafi Zabor and there were those t=really
early albums and the breakp=up of my first marriage and i kept
casting myself adrift of myself and only in the last quartr of a
century have found any peace, and i'm still playing Al, not
Alan, Al, I'm still playing and my life turned then and you
help0ed even though Fahey disliked what I was doing, what I was
doing, what I was doing, too much repetition he said too much
repetition and there went that record deal alh=though then there
was that early record of mine, Riverboat? maybe, before ESP
where I settled in & today they still have doubts about me, and
Al, I miss those days, and when I see you in those videos now
Cannaed Heat, i sense you were still in that same world, three's
a recording of you talking about the blues as well, and hearing
your voice speaking the bottom drops out for me and I'm utterly
lost then found again


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Re: [NetBehaviour] Leonardo vs. Machiavelli: The Mediocrity of Evil and a New Saint Genevieve

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi,

Just want to point out I've taught and published and lectured on
postmodernism, and videos I co-created with Dawja Burris dealt with the
subject in El Paso and Ciudad Juarez and I have no idea how you're using
the word or attacking it - it wasn't facetious, it was concerned among
other things, with informal economies and South America favelas etc.It's a
complex socio-economic subject and its effects cover issues such as
migration, homelessness, around the world. I just don't think you've read
deeply into the subject; for example scientific methodology was an integral
part of the discussion.

-  Best, Alan

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 11:01 AM Max Herman via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

>
> +++
>
> The modern world has problems.  No longer ancient and starting sort of
> from scratch, no longer medieval with short lifespans and a simple
> church-state duopoly, and certainly no longer indigenous in direct mutual
> dialogue with nature like a woven fabric, our problems are unique enough to
> have their own name: "modernity."
>
> An idea, rather facetious, cropped up over fifty – yes, fifty – years ago
> to call European culture "post-modern" instead of modern.  This idea
> suggested that although modernity may have had many serious problems they
> no longer mattered because their "time" had passed.  The time of
> constitutions, including democratic ones, a public sphere of communication
> (with greater or lesser freedom of speech), the idea of rights codified by
> laws which were often upheld even when some official or strongperson didn't
> like it, and the reality of biological nature and scientific method, well
> those things were all passé.  Not only did they no longer require any
> effort or attention, they had never warranted it, being nothing more than
> rewritings of the tooth fairy tale.  There is no quarter under your pillow,
> they said, only lies.
>
> We shouldn't be surprised now that in 2024 the USA is fairly likely to
> vote an autocrat into the presidency and democracy is being routed like
> yesterday's news the world over.  Autocrats from Tallahassee to Budapest
> crow about being post-truth, their PR consultants throwing terms like
> post-Enlightenment around like confetti, and the general mass of ordinary
> people – the only force that has ever allowed democracy to function – has
> nothing to go by except tired populism and hyper-specific outrage.  Susan
> Neiman explains how Foucault carried this "who cares" attitude forward from
> Schmitt, who did so for Nietzsche, who is from – well, who?  Neiman's book
> explains why the millions of factions within the left and center can only
> blame each other for being not left enough, too left, or left in the wrong
> way, and cannot reliably organize political coalitions capable of defeating
> autocracy in elections.  Paul de Man is dancing under a giant disco ball in
> his grave.
>
> The boring view of Habermas that democracy is still real and matters, as
> do rights, constitutions, laws, and the public sphere of communication that
> articulates them all, that he pointed out very early on with Foucault – who
> he called way back in the 80's "a young conservative" and basically a
> hypocritical con artist like Freud or Bernays – well this practical
> reality-based view is now defined mainly by its incredible confusion and
> hopelessness.  How could democracy deteriorate so badly, everywhere, when
> we thought we were way past it?  I guess the European mind thought by
> ignoring democracy and pretending it didn't exist it would be protected
> forever, like a bee in amber.
>
> +++
>
> Paul de Man, who championed postmodernism so effectively out of Yale early
> on, was, we now know, a terrible fascist sympathizer and anti-Semite.  He
> knew very well, just as every bully on every playground knows, that if you
> confuse the people who are supposedly guarding ethical norms, the grown-ups
> and goody-goodies, you can get away with a lot more terrible shit.  A
> super-confusing, pretentious, hyper-abstract rhetoric on which to base the
> thousands of PhD's being handed out in the post-civil-rights era that could
> out-compete Marxism for clever ambitious scholars' affection was badly
> needed and postmodernism was it.  It has, moreover, worked like a charm.
>
> One can argue it was so crucially necessary, and therefore worthwhile, to
> nullify Marxism (also riddled with flaws, delusions, and outright lies)
> during the Cold War of 1948-1991 that any amount of duplicity or even
> violence was justified.  Even if you grant that, by a stretch of utter
> contortion, there is no escaping the brutal fact that a spited face still
> needs a nose both to smell and not frighten the neighbors' kids or everyone
> at the dinner party much less watching TV.  Autocracy, not the Marxist with
> a PhD, was the real adversary; and that lovely principle has not gone
> anywhere despite the wall falling and big business celebrating its myriad
> 

[NetBehaviour] the composing, or flute, or doublets, beautiful music, or 8'56"

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

the composing, or flute, or doublets, beautiful music, or 8'56"

https://youtu.be/ZFiK9NiCBFU video, music

the doublets and triplets carefully you note them
and note their astonishing rapport with the interior of vessels
on the seas carrying vessels on the seas and then, "the then,"
the scene, the "seen," shifts and you are hearing your other
which you have already murmured, the meristome, which you have
always cultivated, deep within you, and within others, and other
yous, and other them, and you know you've arrived at a place
you've never left, and youve never returned to that place, which
you've never left, glassworld, harboring and harbouring, loam,
fold, arrived where you never left, the when

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[NetBehaviour] quick, haptic, flutter, outtakes and seas

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

quick, haptic, flutter, outtakes and seas

https://youtu.be/kYoHuqciz4w video

eyes closed i say what i might mean to say. my left thumb, no
right thumb, is strained. i'm feeling incrasingly weak.
yesterday and last night i slept avery little wake time. looking
for a clinic at this point. ruptured sleep and wakefulness is
unproductive. with my eyes closed ican see myself better. these
bits of video are remnants, as scattered as my way of being in
the world. i keep hoping for test results. the birds, the ocean
birds, are doing well this time of year. the ground moves up and
down, camera dysfunction which also took a while to correct. i
am awake at this point alone here during the gray day anyway.
reading a book on soccer, football in other words, statsticis
and the integration of the spart with computer technology. some
teams have twenty-five programmers/analysts.  i can't figure out
my exhaustion. the broken, no , broken, not the broken, just
broken sleep leads to resolute in the small for a short while.
we're somewhat on our own here. there's a clinic in Boston,
maybe something here, have to lok into it. our cars warning
lights, two of them, won't turn off, i want the highway and it
needn't be my way. at least the waves are smaller on land than
on the see, no buffeting for me, just the camera, see.
exhaustion leads to poor philosophizing and i imagine that was
always the case for others who drew out their texts in the sand
hardened into protocols and etneral analyses of the momentary,
the specific, the general, : once one grasps the inconeivable,
the deeply inconceivable, universe, as ungraspable, as
exhaustion like mine for the dna protocols messing us about, not
to mention the destruction not of earth, but _surface_ - then
nothing but annihilation in which sartre's existentialist
encounters with the waiter hold as much gravitas as conceivable
- the rest is exhaustion, mind at its limit/ations, pathways to
nowhere, cessation  memory, absence, gone ,

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Re: [NetBehaviour] The Prison of the Song and the Warning of the Wind

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Thank you so much,
war has all of us, as it were as it has invaded our minds, our dreams...

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 1:07 PM Edward Picot  wrote:

> Wonderful writing, Alan.
>
> On 02/02/2024 12:49, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour wrote:
> >
> >
> > The Prison of the Song and the Warning of the Wind
> >
> > https://youtu.be/XYGaM33rN24 video
> >
> > And they said who are you and I said what am I period behold I.
> > Stand here on the banks of the sea and water into water and
> > water onto water into water. I connect with good God what's the
> > horizontal? With Thee Palestine water on to water. And I say
> > I've been brought here to say.  That I can no longer play. I can
> > no longer see the music of the Lord. I can no longer hearing
> > music at all. The wind carries it away. The wind carries the
> > violence into the violence the wind and the violence carried
> > away and carries them away. All of them they are carried away
> > and we should stop this fury.  Now we must stop this fury. Now
> > listen to The Sound of the wind . it has Always been The Sound
> > of the wind before You & I were born on the Earth before Human
> > kind. Was on the Earth before the Earth had plants and animals
> > before the Earth had life. Itself period there was always the
> > way end period the wind takes the song away.  Period the wind
> > says you should not sing. Because singing only brings death and
> > wind says you should not sing. Because singing only brings death
> > among you period you must walk home across the water. You must
> > sink into the water. You must swim across the water, but no, you
> > must stay on the land the one says you must stay in the land.
> > And seek peace because without peace, the song will be forever
> > held in prison . will be forever held in prison period .
> >
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[NetBehaviour] The Prison of the Song and the Warning of the Wind

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The Prison of the Song and the Warning of the Wind

https://youtu.be/XYGaM33rN24 video

And they said who are you and I said what am I period behold I.
Stand here on the banks of the sea and water into water and
water onto water into water. I connect with good God what's the
horizontal? With Thee Palestine water on to water. And I say
I've been brought here to say.  That I can no longer play. I can
no longer see the music of the Lord. I can no longer hearing
music at all. The wind carries it away. The wind carries the
violence into the violence the wind and the violence carried
away and carries them away. All of them they are carried away
and we should stop this fury.  Now we must stop this fury. Now
listen to The Sound of the wind . it has Always been The Sound
of the wind before You & I were born on the Earth before Human
kind. Was on the Earth before the Earth had plants and animals
before the Earth had life. Itself period there was always the
way end period the wind takes the song away.  Period the wind
says you should not sing. Because singing only brings death and
wind says you should not sing. Because singing only brings death
among you period you must walk home across the water. You must
sink into the water. You must swim across the water, but no, you
must stay on the land the one says you must stay in the land.
And seek peace because without peace, the song will be forever
held in prison . will be forever held in prison period .


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[NetBehaviour] The Cries and Crisis Cantata

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The Cries and Crisis Cantata

https://youtu.be/K49H6eBKuAs video / audio

This is the result of years of working with supercollider, the
despair and aporia of war, the violence of everyday life, this
war cantata, this, which coalesced as such. Please listen
through.

"Da brennt ihre Fahne mitten im Feind, und sie jagen ihr nach."
"Their flag is aflame in the enemy's midst, and they gallop
after."

- from Rilke's Cornet, trans. Norton.

"Wer, wenn ich schriee, hoerte mich denn aus der Engel
Ordnungen?"
"Who, if I cried, would hear me among the angelic orders?"

- from Rilke's Duino, trans. Leishman and Spender.


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[NetBehaviour] wa, afternoon musing and apologies*

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*apologies: I feel I should post a lot less on this list; there
are very few posting here at all. It's my daily practice to work
in a continuous fashion, but not my intention to create bloatware.
I'll slow up or stop unless something life-changing comes along
that needs attention. I note that other lists have increased at
times, as the wars plural need our attention and, for the list,
perhaps mutual care. Please let me / us know what you think; I'd
hate to see the list become moribund, particularly now that the
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wa, afternoon musing

https://youtu.be/xQnY5X1jlis dutar

when memory is perfect, there is no memory. azure and I found an
old school yearbook from the 19th century, with lots of
signatures, one of them mentioned the school. within a few hours
we figured out who owned the yearbook, what year it was from,
and what subsequently happened to the person who owned it; we
traced her from new england to west virginia, we found the
graves of her and her husband, we found images of the graves,
everything and nothing is available, the world is flat, memories
are fundamentally digital, interspersed between mind and
network, shuttled, everywhere, for all time; what's not there,
is not. this flatness scales everything; the digital is entirely
transformable, manipulated; it carries a set series of symbols
and protocols, smears and tears are non-existent, even in their
digital reproduction. we move from the earth and the grit of the
earth to clearing our screen. this is necessary and accessible,
food comes from elsewhere, as does polluted air and the
consequences of politics. perfect memory online is a click away
and a click erased and a click found elsewhere and a click found
in the company of others, of strangers, of protocols, of hard
drives and as such of course contain none of the debris that
someone like braudel might have used to reconstruct a culture.
storage cleansed is invisible, totes the invisible, with the
occasional diagnostics. but the point or plateau is, we ride
these surfaces, we inhabit them as protocols and ghosts (i know
you're there, the screen has changed), our emanations are always
already duplicable. we are in other words superfluous, or in
other words, nodes, smell and taste and atmosphere absent or
regenerated (everything is ultimately regenerated). The world
becomes protocol, RFC (request for comments), simultaneously
flat and infinitely dimensional, both meeting in a series of
rules necessary for communication. all of this is trite, is
evident, but sometimes, at least for me, i have to remind myself
- for example i'm staring at nothing but pixels which basically
exist within the aegis of absent bodies. in the past myths and
ceremonies were intertwined, as were kennings and other
formalisms familiar to all, all within and without the surface,
all promulgating communication; the kenning became the postage
stamp. the flat earth (not my phrase, everything here is as i
keep insisting, already known) carries everything and nothing to
itself, flat but infinitely dimensional, multiply connected,
striated with protocol layers transforming the protocols close
to the speed of light in media. when we meet one another in
'real life' (as if that were always an option one way or
another), we carry the ghosts, the auras of onlines presences
with us. no wonder Trump succeeds, no wonder it takes wars,
poverty, bodies, plagues, Ballard's crashlands, to shatter our
complacency (complacent in _this regard,_ we're hardly
complacent elsewhere, perhaps more engaged politically for
example), we're hardly here, hardly there, always on the move,
hardly on the move... i hardly wrote this, hardly read this,
hardly am present, i'm fairly old now, perhaps i've died ...

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[NetBehaviour] universe no sound sound

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universe no sound sound

https://youtu.be/u_PsCoI0O-E video

listening to the universe no sound, cosmic murmuration,
listening to the sound reverberating from the 90 year old
sarangi with, as far as one know, original strings, almost
ropes, difficult to play, one lets the instrument play itself,
vocalize, a darker urgent voice, a voice of breathing, the bow
follows the commands of this instrument, not that of the player,
the sounds are those which the instrument desires, speaks from,
speaks with, so much history, pain, the ending of breathing for
all of us, the beginning of the cosmos, this is what has always
been heard, remnants of raga and rasa, not even that, the
eruption of noise, speaking from the earth's grit, i listen but
i listen away, i turn away from the sound, the sound continues,
the universe is on its own, has always been on its own, more and
more the inconceivable is inconceivable, layer after layer of
illuminated darkness, scatterings, we are utterly a line to
ourselves, hubris to even consider comprehension, measurements
here and there, nothing coheres for long, languor, what
particles, what waves, what particulates, what waves of
particles, particles, of waves, what particulates of particles,
what what what what, this piece which took so much out of me,
neither better nor worse for it, an internal frame for
presuppositions, nothing escapes, trauma is inconceivably flat,
what's heard or scene is less than any of the imperceptible, now
this is the sound of wood, metal, leather, hair, this split
split moment of the organic and inorganic, diminution,
unplacement, unregarding, alan dojoji swaying, thinking,
non-existent, thinned, intervals everywhere, breathing nothing,
neti neti, Dismay - the propping up of the head by the hands,
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[NetBehaviour] here

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here

https://youtu.be/eXAnXZw6O4A video

lying on my back i never thought this would happen

gone. in the distance chattering. night and day we hear it,
chattering. no idea whatsoever what it is. it just _is_ and just
_like that._ my head falls to my knees, exhausted, what was that
word, that sentence, what language (no one speaks around here,
you and I speak, our love, our love)how thin our bones are! how
thin our faces are! how thin our minds, togther, conjoined ! how
thin the world now , now - how very thick the world !

uf nt fubgers ryb agaubs tnt iwbm tebsuib abd gruefm uf n
fubgers ryb agaubst gers uf we ca=kasom ab aknist yb==

unbearabke delight .forever gone, forest gone, stream brooklet
they're dried because they're not dirty. they might be scabbed
and crusty, red/black in that sense, uneasy to look at. "all
feeling's gone from them" he said in against the dried and
flaked skin, edges still damp, messy from the action about a
hundred meters over there.my posture left me / i fell hard
against something, a body, our teeeth, both of us, raw against
the gravel. the dawn was dust in our eyes. i could no longer
think. the sickness got hold of me. what was once a plateau was
now furrowed, my mind and its contusions . just like that and i
knew when i spoke i didn't know what ened here and began
elswhere, unable to think or write and wonder the dark red
retangle when i closed my eyes maybe blood or something else,
the black background in the center WHER THESE WORDS LIE remained
the same, on odd combination where darkness stroke a semaphore
about half a meter off the ground. the plane undulated or did.
with the trees gone, there were rivulets in the storm cut into
the hill now barren with once dust and roamed there a cheetah
within the grove over the hill, plankton . the slightest
dampness alwas indiates the presence of death. we knew it was a
known fact . one of the few.for a long time we worried about our
teeth, that was a while ago. not much to go on, ourneighbor on
the other side of the fence said. the last sliver of light
gleamed off absolutely nothing, the earh now a blotter absorbed
* we knew nothinng would *arise* *rose* again -what was once
fiction written by the living became fact unwritten by the dead
. the depth of our daily lives is inconceivable, all the way
down within the cthonic , silver plate glittered over there just
for a moment, my writing got worse in the cirumstances whatever
they were. an odd word in the singular, 'the circumstance of our
death' for example : what on earth!i wrotethis before it all
happened but as everyone knows, the smell of death carries
bakwards from the future, envelops us, not as a warning, but as
a circumambulation moving in that awkward and untoward direction
.i write , writhe, hands slide left or write, catechism , their
names from 40K BC already unutterably lost, unutterably.this has
gone on too far, too shrot , too high, too low, too small, too
right, too left (below)to the left of the path the ruins of
food, to the right, bedding where the flakes of dreams remained
. no above, no below, no going forward, no going back .

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help .

http://www.alansondheim.org/cp.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/help.mp4

fictional help on the high seas
help ! 2004
the Coral Princess did not and does not need help
it never did need help, C. P. does not need help now
it's a fiction about help on the high seas
the short moving image of C. P. is jut that, a fiction
it's a made up story about a ship needing help
the C. P. has never as far as I know needed help
the C. P. was traveling and minding its own business
in the middle of the night a peaceful C. P. on the seas
the seas most likely may have possibly been an ocean
i'm sure it must be fun to travel on the C. P.
i sure would like to (travel on the C. P.)
i needed help and that C. P. never needed help
as far as i know we never needed help
that needing help by C. P. and me

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[NetBehaviour] wealth and poverty make me sick

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https://www.dw.com/en/worlds-richest-five-men-double-wealth-oxfam/a-67979934?mobileApp=true


do check this out - while the wars increase and the planet
topples. I saw a show recently on "superyachts" which are unbearable, 
unncessary, polluting, and can cost hundreds of millions, but who's

counting?

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[NetBehaviour] silence

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silence

https://youtu.be/VK5b0L3sHWc video

They said this mystery shall never cease:
The priest promotes war, & the soldier peace.

- Blake, Rossetti Ms. xvi (Sampson)

sweep sweep sweep sweep of silence of dead silence least not in
years, and not a dead silence, but a live one. The rare dead
silence here in the forest,, coming to grips with the simple the
quiet meditation of radiation luminous and far in the background
just a glimmer of light, soothing and kind, Green Tara perhaps
closed or half-closed lotus or platform then within the world of
the forest prayers or none of this cleansing my mind of any of
this steeped emptiness of emptiness but the light the murmur the
whisper the warning the enlargement, crepuscular, what is, is,
is is, sweep my ignorance, the forest, wanderers, what of
abstentions, mudra, what of light (what i left out has left me
in) and the three baskets four baskets elders' verses, what of
this, what of bell, what of color, what of baskets what of the
mirror, Sachuest, West Virginia, Perth, stromatolite, juncture,
what of within within without without, of the cessation, of
renunciation, envelopment, return, retinue, grove, mandala,
garden, jewels, star-crossed, ring, vajra, platform, path,
space, number, within, upon, beneath, without, Gaza, Ukraine,
America, Yemen, Taiwan, China, America, Jordan, hosts of nations
of hosts, nations of hosts of nations, sweep sweep sweep sweep
of sweep sweep sweep sweep of sweep sweep sweep sweep of sweep
sweep sweep sweep

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[NetBehaviour] Nepali sarangi, snow (for Connie Bostic, rest in peace)

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Nepali sarangi, snow (for Connie Bostic, rest in peace)

https://youtu.be/sf8rPD4y0FQ video

four strings in three courses, amazing instrument related to the
sarinda. only recently could i play it at all. the strings meet
at a point, the distance between them is small even at the upper
end, three of them may be badminton strings, the fourth is
metal, and carries most of the melody, the bow is very thin (at
least on mine), a bookseller had it on her desk and knew little
about it, it hung on her wall, the bridge is angled, there are
some examples of the music online, the sarangi is very very
responsive, i use a heavy rosin, on youtube you can find more
traditional playing of course, i even found examples of the
pithkiavlin at one point there, everything is there, nothing is
there, we are there, sooner or later my music will crash and
burn and we hope these instruments survive, it was very cheap,
it's been well-played, not a tourist sarangi, and now i play and
perhaps we listen to the war no longer war but wars and i fear
for everything and just now through the walls here a woman
picking up her violin from years ago and playing again, not very
well, she works in blogging i think, it was snowing out a few
minutes ago and the sky is dark, paris st-germain is ahead, it's
half-time, i am reminded of Joyce's The Dead, i write no longer,
i am bad at life, better with music, best in silence and


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Opal Whiteley

https://youtu.be/_bg07m8ss3o video

thinking of Opal Whiteley, walking in most likely the only
remaining old growth hemlock forest stand in West Virginia, a
small area of Cathedral State Park "Cathedral State Park is the
states largest old-growth forest and contains one of the largest
stands of virgin hemlock in West Virginia. Designated a National
Natural Landmark, this 133-acre park offers sanctuary for these
ancient trees, as well as 170 species of trees, ferns and
wildflowers. During spring and summer, Cathedral State Park
offers excellent hiking on its three miles of trails and unique
photography opportunities." Azure Carter video from the early
2000s, otherwise new sound mixed with old

a bleak day today, too many harrowing stories, i wake in brain
fog, look around, sure it's foggy out, the sound is there though
mixed with two low frequency dan moi wake to darker days than
even i could conceive, should that be spelled cd indicative of
the urgency, found my memo list gone in panix, did i do that, no
gremlins possible, perhaps in the middle of the night always
stress now, always just when the world couldn't fall off a
higher cliff it teeters begging for more elevation


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[NetBehaviour] o song

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o song

https://youtu.be/8zJKTPUBbIc video

i am thinking of you o song that conjures up the dan moi of the
four leaves, before me and after me above me and below me to one
side and other side within me and without me to me distant and
farreaching soud to me before you and after you above youo and
below you to one side and the other side within you and without
you, above us and below us before us and after us always before
us and always after us this disappearance and reappearance this
falling and rising this humming and singing this thinking and
forgetting this remembered and forgotten this coming and going
this coming and this going this falling and rising this falling
and rising this falling o song remember me this falling and
rising this rising and falling o song remember me

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[NetBehaviour] Around the Nine Men's Misery

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Around the Nine Men's Misery

https://youtu.be/05mwzngAV5I video

Apparently the oldest war monument in the United States, 1676,
in the woods near a monastery, Cumberland, Rhode Island. Roger
Williams was still alive. When we arrived, no one was there. The
monument is tended at times, clear from the flags and plastic
flowers. In 1928, the original monument was replaced by a stone
cairn to stop desecration (one of the soldiers was said to be
"unusually large with a double row of teeth"  leading to
attempts to remove the body. (Wikipedia). We've visited the site
several times, there in the woods, among moss, trees, stones,
water, some paths, oddly isolated. Shakuhachi in the cold and
wind, less visible in the image, but interfering with
embouchure. I kept thinking modal after the fact, but I have no
such proficiency. The sound resonated, there were woodpeckers,
chickadees, squirrel, scuttlings, flappings. Wind, the rain held
off. Returned from a nearby library sale with 3 Marx, 2 Anais
Nin.

(If you are interested in Narragansett studies related to the
area, you might want to read The Tomaquag Museum Edition of
Roger Williams, A Key into the Language of America, edited by
Dawn Dove, Sandra, Robinson, Lorien Spears, Dorothy Herman Papp,
and Kathleen J. Bragdon - an amazing work bringing new insight
into William's original book, along with information about the
contemporary Narragansett. The commentary is brilliant, a double
commentary, since Williams' original text itself is commentary;
this edition expands and grounds the whole. A visit to the
museum itself is very worthwhile.)

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[NetBehaviour] 2023/4 Slow Helium, New Years, Better Lives

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2023/4 Slow Helium, New Years, Better Lives

https://youtu.be/tgj3U06LtqA video

Slow helium birthday balloons up for six weeks in our place,
still dancing among the air currents, endurance, performance,
understanding elasticity, aerodynamics, persistence, static
electricity, radiative heating, the dance dance, the slow
dance, world gone sad and mad, hoping for a new dawn, slow
times as well

"Ear, school balloon nose to and Ear,
Ear, kiss pending balloon raise Ear,
balloon they, raise and they,, they,
employees tongue, they, balloon they,
balloon  to to and and nose named
named named balloon balloon to named
back from scattered monitors
position balloon throat to  and
she, they, to kiss balloon they, and
sweet swing swole balloon swvoi
to to balloon nose named to to raise
nose to was to balloon balloon to pending
balloon now listen to this tune and
named to to to pay pay to balloon to
raise balloon and Ear, attend Ear to to
concert and would love to balloon
in clarity of true and proper
encompassed balloon and slow dance"

and the throat ear, the balloon was pending
and moving every so slowly in many rhythms
and fascinating, all with the joy of it,
our home accompaniment, and soon the joy
overcame us with the beauty of the world
among all beings, all objects, all flowing
kindness in the midst of darker times

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[NetBehaviour] Blast 24

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Blast 24

https://youtu.be/JdVjmrrho0M video

The world lights up, not with the warmth of spring, but with
something somewhere occuring, turning ash, turning gray matter
into gray matter. It exhausts itself. It's furious. It
continues. It speaks crudely. It's the same old stories of
apocalypse armageddon; you know what? these happen without any
force at all. This dark night we go less than gentle, this dark
night unbearable bright. The light is monstrous, is it not.
Every night I don't sleep, go over my faults and mistakes,
errors and wrong turns, one by one by one, sleep collapses me.
How selfish our stories are that we tell ourselves. How selfish
our stories are that we tell others. How selfish their stories
are that they tell us. How powerful their stories are that they
tell others. _I am come among us._ Daily I wait, await,
cessation. It's this blinding light, light of a thousand, a
million suns. It is that sound which is unheard at the moment of
arrival, that sound without departure. I never get the last note
in. There is none, neither this nor that, always - _always_ -
expulsion. THIS is the sound of THAT. This _churns._


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[NetBehaviour] Army (for my mother)

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Army (for my mother)

http://www.alansondheim.org/army.jpg

(Eyes wide closed) So this photograph was probably taken in the
summer of 1960, after graduating highschool and on the way to
Brown University in the fall; for the summer, I went to Israel
for two months on a tour of sorts, not entirely, I think this is
from then, Israel was 12 years old, that's all, formed out of
the ashes tending towards mor ashes, more war and paranoia on
all sides kibbutzim seemed the way to go and on and on and on,
and we went around the country, from Eilat to far north, I think
that's when Syria shot at our boat on the Galil but too far
away, nothing happened, but that was the story of the day,
soommething happened but nothing happened. So there was a lot of
military gear on the market, bought this shirt, and I look half
like an altar boy and half like an altered boy. So that was
that. On the way back I wore an Isareli general's outfit that I
bought, but enough of that. Now I look with horror at this
image, twisted as well, I seem innocent, certainly would never
never have given in to the violence against Palestine today, and
that's why this is so twisted for me, what was I thinking but a
sense of loose affiliation, what happened though even then and
ovder the years, inconceivable! Palestine today I think is
Warsaw then, there were German youths coming to Israel, again 12
years after, to try to understand what had happened in the
Holcaust; they seemed frightened but determined, tragic, now it
is our turn, this emblem of something that today and even then I
assume now, so inconceivablye (I keep using that word0 twisted,
the tragedy violating every body every belief and yet neti neti
not this not that, not here, it's not here, and we can protest
and Hsrael is ruled by a horror on top of all the other horrors,
this horror with bombs and guns, and I would have thought,
inconeivable. The image twists me around, if I had known I would
have fld the country never to return (I did return twice), I
would have kept going elsewhere. This sounds incredibly
superficial, but living it as it were, it wasn't, couldn't have
been, is not now. As if our fingers, hands, arms are cut off, we
can do nothing, we are there, protest poprest protest write
wtrite write and the inuman violence goes on and on, Israel in
the charge of a madman, but not one, but others, a whole party
of them, more on the West Bank, a human plague of violence, and
I can hardly, honestly, look at this photograph at this point,
the now of it burned in rubbled, burned in the bombings, an
uneasy allegory of Auschwitz and other mass killings, mass
graves everywhere in the world. What on earth, literally on
earth, this earth, all we have, what are we up to? When will
this end? What have all of us done, what do humans do, what do
mammals do, what happened to the sun? the moon? the stars? the
enormity of the universe's beginning? Gods drowned in the
Jordan, I tried to believe then, in that time, that twist, (and
the usual question, what is there to day, and what is to be
done, and where are we in this world, where are any of us,
where? why? when? "And if not now, when?" -

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[NetBehaviour] The Old World of the Future

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The Old World of the Future

http://www.alansondheim.org/theoldworldofthefuture.jpg

Sometimes words are just a stub for the real; sometimes images
are just an expansion or grounding of words, and of course,
neither, neti neti and so on and so forth, in this case, so
forward and backward, industrial meets the expanding sun
blurring and consuming the ashes of the already ashen earth.
O Grandeur of the industrial matrix! O Grandeur of the Matrix
itself! This is the same sun that could not, ever, cut through
the cloud and despair of our species quickly heading down the
road to Armageddon, everyone catching up with nuclear for
example, what _clansing,_ what new species, what vanishes.
Perhaps the sauropods had war we never dreamed of. Perhaps a
sentence ends with a preposition with nothing to change for.
Perhaps language is nothing to bask in. The photograph is a
glimmer of the infinitely small as if 19th-century industrial
expansion led somewhere desirable, In the midnight of the day,
everything - sun soon, bridge, water, building - _looms._
Humanity's new role is to go forth whenever and whatever it can.

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[NetBehaviour] New Heaven

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New Heaven

https://youtu.be/JlnSdUzp4jU video

Within the planar bankruptcy of the world as it exists now, the
grit of heavenchemical deterioration medicinal avalanche of gods
true drugs always already at the beck and call. Oh I can't see,
now I will talk // // // And hope for all of our sake that
everything comes through as it would wearing the proper clothing
as if we were in the ballroom which is senseless out of doors
without shelter without walls without music without anything
whatsoever set reminders of our previous lives believe beneath
the earth when we were very very young beneath the earth when we
could describe the earth beneath the earth when the earth was
always already in a state of disappearance beanie sierras when
we were moving not of our own free will but through the kindness
and salience of microbial life . Always wear it like this always
wears comes back . Now I will close my eyes and you are aware of
me . Now I will think of the sound from BBC of the unimaginable
horror of continuous deterioration . Now I will give up my past
my belief and work its way into the dirt. Now I will lie and lie
. Now is never now. By the time you read this we will all
undergo that thange that transformation into unholy angles in
flight bright light sight above the recompensate of absolute
lack of restitution . Now I will speak agai . // He speaks again
// Of what do I speak he says ? Of what do i speak I say
speaking for him . I am speaking for him at the distance of 5mm.
I am speaking for him at the distance of 7mm. I am speaking for
him at the distance of seven kilometers. I am speaking for him
at the distance of seven mega parsecs. I am uncomfortable with
this as I flatten against the imaginary of the universe which we
carry within ourselves. This is what I say when I speak. It is
so useless. It is so useless. I open my mouth and in floats no
no take that back take that back absolutely take that back. I
open my mouth and is there and wait a minute oh there is a body
incoming. No that's that doesn't sound right that sounds
straight . I open my mouth and there is a flux. There is
definitely a flux. Now I will write again my fingers on the keys
pressing against see the building on the floor in the building
on the floor of the uilding in the building resting ono the
rubble of four centuries resting on the strata of two billion
years stromatolites and others resting on the arapace of plate
tectonics . Now I will speak. I will declaim of molten core lava
of iron of diamond of inert materials of the pressures which we
apply to ourselves from the interior of the earth carrying the
weight the carapace of life on our back on the surface. Scraping
the surface. Scraping the surface as one would age kick atriss.
As one would a scar. As one would an embolism. As one would
nothing at all but scratches on a stone 2 million years ago when
we began just when we began to when we began to when will you be
going to when we began to. Stop dictating . Now I will continue
this pressure and within a year or a decade or slightly more or
much less, this will stop. This will grind to a halt. This will
absolutely grind to a halt. This will stop. This will end, this
will be finished. IWILL NEVER have the CHANCE to say good-bye.


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Re: [NetBehaviour] Paysage

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Thank you greatly!

Best, Alan -

On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 6:48 PM Simon Mclennan via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> Lovely poem
>
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2023, 21:05 Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour, <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Paysage
>>
>> https://youtu.be/EWIzDTsYpAw video
>>
>> I return to you, listening to the rustle within the world that I
>> can only dream with eyes closed, ears blocked, breath held, as
>> if there were escaped trauma at every juncture of every branch,
>> I'm now _leaning into th emachine_ to be certain that I have not
>> forgtten the way home, the demarcation of sound within the
>> periodic glimering that carries us elsewhere, O if only prayer
>> were performative! if only commands of goodness quietly murmured
>> truths in waters submerged beneath the oceans, just there, " and
>> they pointed to a moment when  the blackboard illumined, came to
>> life, made good on all the kind promises of the world, in this
>> holiday season full of lost joy, in this recompense
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[NetBehaviour] Paysage

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Paysage

https://youtu.be/EWIzDTsYpAw video

I return to you, listening to the rustle within the world that I
can only dream with eyes closed, ears blocked, breath held, as
if there were escaped trauma at every juncture of every branch,
I'm now _leaning into th emachine_ to be certain that I have not
forgtten the way home, the demarcation of sound within the
periodic glimering that carries us elsewhere, O if only prayer
were performative! if only commands of goodness quietly murmured
truths in waters submerged beneath the oceans, just there, " and
they pointed to a moment when  the blackboard illumined, came to
life, made good on all the kind promises of the world, in this
holiday season full of lost joy, in this recompense


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[NetBehaviour] Rush Storm Fury Music Guitar

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Rush Storm Fury Music Guitar

https://youtu.be/OcJS55eI_qM video

On the stucture of storms or what's heard within them or the
downfall of particular drops of water or the potential for
flooding and gathering against a semblance of music wrapping,
enveloping the community of minor windows and sprays. This
should not have been difficult but the editing was monstrous to
be sure, everything tettering, slightly off-balance, and then
the winds would pick up again and I'd be making additional
video, the sound already recorded with the Zoom against the
larger panes here, no problem with that, but the combination,
just getting it right, jumping from machine to machine and on
and on and on. Whtaever. The result works for me somewhat
astonishing that the parts merged or didn't merge appropriately.
Usually the labor is facile, this time it was goal-directed and
who has goals with a storm with no chaser needed, just out the
window, the dull roar everything around. As long as I can
produce something that I'm unsure of, that I haven't bvefore,the
more I continue to work, long covid and edyes closed
notwithstanding.

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[NetBehaviour] Can't talk in the pool

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Can't talk in the pool

http://www.alansondheim.org/timeofday.jpg

Eyes closed, the pool, trying to focus, think I have long covid,
not sure, the symptoms are there, all of them, in messy
(dis)order, the constant sudden descent into absolute
exhaustion, which is the meain , that's main one, mean as well,
following me everywhere, distending my thoughts, contrravening
whatever it is I might be thiniing, the words rise like scum to
the surface, mistakes and all, the swill, somewhere I wrote
about sweill before, not sure: swill wills however, that's
definite, the hum of the dehumidifier covering up any other
thoughts that might be rising to the surface, actually the
humidifer, not the de- and I wonder why that came first to mind,
te heat's coming on now "to be sure" and I can hear it, that
rush of air, earlier mice in the heating system, various sounds,
there's a nation here which can be comforting. I stop for a
moment. The thoughts, NOT THE WORDS, come forth,  in other
words, OTHER WORDS, it's that process I've been following, the
intermixture but having nothing to do with writing or reading,
nothing like that, it's all in the f9inger's ordinary dance by
themselves, errors and all. I let that _sink in_ as best I can,
When my fingers extend to the "farthest reaches" of the
keyboard, there I have a thought again: the shoreline, barrier,
corrisng-point to the normative of typing/language, being
living, surviving. I think with long covid perhaps I won't
survie that long and perhaps Idon't have long covid at all,
self-diagnosis always a trap.. From what I've read it's always a
trap, but the symptoms are there and in any case something's
radically wrong with my body, or so I think. The doctor will get
back to me eventually. It's been four months since covid
presented itself. It's long after the epidemic per se and I
never thought I'd get it,or it would get me. I stup, confused
for an instant, the flow is broken, there are errors, I'm not
sure where, something in my mind, subetrrraen ean, is dictating
this now, errror after error, there's no escape, I'm
heart-broken, distraught, there's no way out of this, the
horizon seems darker, forboding, perhaps I'm dreaming all of
this, the sound of the keys notwithstanding.

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[NetBehaviour] Violin, Violent Storm, Phase Collisions

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

(Hope this is of interest here)


Violin, Violent Storm, Phase Collisions

https://youtu.be/1X6EVeCdDDs video

Wanderer, what do they call you, when they call you... When
what? The phase loops of the weather system deride the dis/order
of things -

Are you thinking as When what? The phase loops of the weather
system deride the dis/order of things -? Is When what? The phase
loops of the weather system deride the dis/order of things -
really thoughtful? Do you stay in your skin, are you in your
place, ah don't answer... Ah...

Have your numbered your ... , are you listng your earth? Do I
list? Do I belong? What is this music, these lights, these moire
patterns loops of the weather system

I think we should consider that, When what? The phase loops of
the weather system deride the dis/order of things - ...
times plays me  your earth!

What do you call your forgiving skin? The patterns patois
inconceivable of the violin and its burrows

When what? The phase loops of the weather system deride the
dis/order of things -, The patterns patois inconceivable of the
violin and its burrows opens me totally to you!
Patois of the violin
Patois of the storm
Storm of the violin
Storm of the patois

My Storm of the patois is yours... The patterns patois
inconceivable of the violin and its burrows makes me thoughtful
-13323 times!

The patterns patois inconceivable of the violin and its burrows
calls forth lost your placement, running 8 gigabytes. beneath or
within the pure, The patterns patois inconceivable of the violin
and its burrows is , pure, Do I list? Do I belong? What is this
music, these lights, these moire patterns loops of the weather
system? ... your placement is Storm of the violin here, it's
your placement?

Are you becoming close to changing variables to The patterns
patois inconceivable of the violin and its burrows? Closer than
one might imagine given the panoply of the residue of 'things'
in the world which never existed as 'things' in them. You
program your carapace forever...

Your clean i know ::===:: ::===:: ::===::

The patterns patois inconceivable of the violin and its
burrows:Do I list? Do I belong? What is this music, these
lights, these moire patterns loops of the weather system:When
what? The phase loops of the weather system deride the dis/order
of things -::Storm of the patois Your lost Storm of the patois
is in my pure Storm of the violin Your times runs into my Storm
of the violin - turning me clausterphobic

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[NetBehaviour] Shadows, Viola, Migraine and Phenomena

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Shadows, Viola, Migraine and Phenomena

https://youtu.be/Ai88iK6X5Eo VIDEO

Shadows by Azure Carter, viola by Alan Sondheim

Eyes clothed/closed; this is hardly the result I was looking
for, attempting to sleep again, breathing to one hundred and
then that was slowly and then that came again to an end,
nothing. So I began to notice disturbances in the visual field
in the dark, and they grew into the usual migraine patter, that
backwards-C shape that accompanies them, but then something
else, a satellite appeared, fuzzy growth to the right of the C
but clearly disconnected, wherever I looked, all of this, seemed
to me clearly not retinal, somewhere deeper in the brain, and
odd that the patterns take on the structure of a wave-front,
quite clearly, with interference, hence the  zigzag which seems
to indicate a seconary waveform or higher harmonic, but perhaps
not harmonic; perhaps the large  C shape is a carrier wave and
the rest lies in the details. So these spawned tonight the
secondary shape which was less formed, less clarified, but
nonetheless a presence like the other. No explanation. I still
have the "heavy" feeling in the midst of the migraine's ending,
almost that pressure. I can't get rid of all this ddebris,
wondering if it's also connected to age as so many things are.
I'm at a loss but I'm sure these aren't the visions of a saint,
no matter who says what. I wonder if these are the results of
waves "pooling," almost eddied within the brain, what in
turbulence theory were once called "animals," and also related
to fractal organizations considered as "dumps" or some such.
Clearly I'm ignorant here, but the signs are so absolutely
clear, so present... The phenomena came, by the way, after the
slow hundred count, hoping that would send me somewhere else, to
seep, hopefully without dreams of family, past, anxieties,
untoward events, nightmares, for I have had many of the last,
but at least on that account, the worsst of them, what were
nameless and blank and black and dread, have disappeared. They
were emptied upon wakening, by which I mean that nothing was
left of the content, not a clue, nothing at all... Eyes open
now, content dissipated, too early in the morning, worn.

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Gaza

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

I found it useful as well.
There are different histories at work I think: the Hamas attack was _an
event_ and one that created trauma certainly in Israel, certainly among
settlers. The Israeli response has become a _state_ - of war, of fear. Both
have led to anti-Arabism and antisemitism elsewhere (here in Providence an
Arab religious goods seller was shot in front of a mosque). Jews in the
60s-70s in the US were involved in peace movements. When I was in Israel
62-3 there was definitely a sense of paranoia, but the right was considered
marginal at best. As long as Netanyahu is in power, is kept in power, I
think the destruction will continue; the settlers on the West Bank
increasing their attacks etc. I have never argued for one or another side
and none of the people I know have and clearly a 2-state solution is the
only pacific outcome. But it is incredibly difficult to argue w/
hard-liners and the killing is continuing and continuing.
I certainly agree with the article; I don't see how this can be implemented
- and as a sideline to that, I think it's in the interests of the far-right
in the US and perhaps elsewhere to keep the tension going for a variety of
political reasons - an argument for isolationism, an argument for
antisemitism, an argument for abject racism and so forth. These are
concrete responses in America (increase in antisemitic attacks for
example). Sooner or later I hope and think this will all die down but the
toll is increasing daily. -

- Alan

On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 8:28 AM Edward Picot  wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Thanks for posting that link. I found it really helpful.
>
> Edward
>
>
> On 05/12/2023 00:08, Paul Hertz via NetBehaviour wrote:
>
> In a war where generational trauma haunts all parties, it is extremely
> difficult to see a way forward for peace. Nevertheless, I would offer this
> link to a recent text by Mushon Zer-Aviv, which addresses that question.
>
> https://medium.com/@mushon/your-empathy-is-killing-us-1a50a4fc0488
>
> I can't remember if Mushon is on NetBehaviour. I know him from the
> Upgrade! list and meeting him in Skopje (I think Ana Valdés was there
> too?), and have followed his words for some years. Never before have they
> seemed so cogent or necessary. And I am moved more by the picture at the
> end of his text than by the words, speaking to the generational project
> that may be the only way forward from the deep set memory of trauma, the
> flight or fight or freeze response, the parochial empathy, the taking of
> sides, willy-nilly.
>
> There is more that I have been mulling over, but let me leave you first
> with Mushon's words.
>
> paz,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 10:26 PM Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Gaza
>>
>> https://youtu.be/Yda-c_4agZA (saz)
>>
>> it's impossible to comprehend what is occurring in Gaza,
>> impossible to think through the violence and destruction,
>> through the continuous cruelty. we don't think clearly,
>> perhaps not at all, impossible but occurring, absent here
>> but there, but continuous, but incessant, what is to come
>> everywhere our abject fear, our fear is safe _here,_ it
>> is our fear to own from _this_ distance, this safety.
>> we did years ago have ongoing discussions on email lists
>> set up for that purpose, war, violence, testimony. now we
>> have our _safe nightmares_ as cruelty spreads everywhere.
>> perhaps everything falls short of weeping, of our safety
>> here, perhaps not. inside we were napalm not real here
>> we are irreal bombardment, accounts, disasters, bodies,
>> limbs, massacres, children, infants, so many civilians,
>> we have the duty here now of _thinking inconceivability_
>> to respond with art, music, writings, analyses, otherwise
>> than _there,_ in different words _here_ and not _there,_
>> the safety of the aporia, the moment of the trench
>> adjacent to the cusp. i contribute this long-necked saz
>> piece, i am useless, we watch the war inside of us, we
>> survive in the safety, for now, of our bodies, our minds
>> elsewhere, no where at all, the world inconceivable, lost
>>
>> it'simpossibletocomprehendwhatisoccurringinGaza,
>> impossibletothinkthroughtheviolenceanddestruction,
>> throughthecontinuouscruelty.wedon'tthinkclearly,
>> perhapsnotatall,impossiblebutoccurring,absenthere
>> butthere,butcontinuous,butincessant,whatistocome
>> everywhereourabjectfear,ourfearissafe_here,_it
>> isourfeartoownfrom_this_distance,thissafety.
>> wedidyearsagohaveongoingdiscussionsonemaillists
>> setupforthatpurpose,war,violence,testimony.nowwe
>> haveour_safenightmares_asc

[NetBehaviour] Creation of Life

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Creation of Life

https://youtu.be/T8ggIJI3GR8 video

We always wonder don't we? We always wonder about the origin of
life and the destruction of life . Where on the earth only for
the point of wondering and wondering is like wandering . Both of
them imply a lack of destination and a lack of origin. Both of
them imply a journey somewhere mentally or physically. Or maybe
nothing of the sort. You know I'm talking this out because I'm
so tired from working and worrying this particular video of the
creation of life. I have no energy. I have a migraine headache.
It's a bad headache. Shortly I'll be seeing things again as I
always do. When I see things I know I'm on the right track . If
i see things that are actually there i know i'm on the wrong
track. I have to see things that aren't there but that I'm
absolutely sure I am seeing and I'm seeing things like these
things because they're the ontology which I am missing in the
physical world. You should surely understand this. Or if not
there should surely be a blank. But the creation which goes on
here and which I am documenting is all the creation that occurs
or occurs within or without me . Within the wandering and
wondering . Within the world and perhaps pay attention to the
specificies that are present in the work , you will learn
something about place and being , not Being but arriving,
departing , being thereby, there, bye .

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Gaza

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

All this makes sense to me. Hamas is not Gaza is not Hamas, even Netanyahu
is not Israel is not Netanyahu.
Targeted wars leave destruction in their wake; I'm reading the full version
of Karl Kraus' The Last Days of Mankind, a play around 600 pages long
(which he read over 10 long nights) - there is always a 'wake' (in the
sense of a wake behind a boat) that spreads from what may be close to
singularities, sweeping up everything else, dragging
propaganda/hyperbole/verbal violence - violence , along with it .
What is inconceivably conceivable is our discussion apart from this area
which covers less than central London, all of it, all of Gaza. And a
population held there, captive. (What will most likely spread - the West
Bank.)
And we discuss. And this is what we do.
And not just there - there is other local and not so local violence
elsewhere.
(A problem - the violence against Ukraine, less visible now.)
I fear "our" upcoming election next year in the US. There will be more to
come.
It is good we discuss this, here, and elsewhere, when we can. It is very
good.
Best, Alan, thank you everyone of course


On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 7:09 PM Paul Hertz via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> In a war where generational trauma haunts all parties, it is extremely
> difficult to see a way forward for peace. Nevertheless, I would offer this
> link to a recent text by Mushon Zer-Aviv, which addresses that question.
>
> https://medium.com/@mushon/your-empathy-is-killing-us-1a50a4fc0488
>
> I can't remember if Mushon is on NetBehaviour. I know him from the
> Upgrade! list and meeting him in Skopje (I think Ana Valdés was there
> too?), and have followed his words for some years. Never before have they
> seemed so cogent or necessary. And I am moved more by the picture at the
> end of his text than by the words, speaking to the generational project
> that may be the only way forward from the deep set memory of trauma, the
> flight or fight or freeze response, the parochial empathy, the taking of
> sides, willy-nilly.
>
> There is more that I have been mulling over, but let me leave you first
> with Mushon's words.
>
> paz,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 10:26 PM Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Gaza
>>
>> https://youtu.be/Yda-c_4agZA (saz)
>>
>> it's impossible to comprehend what is occurring in Gaza,
>> impossible to think through the violence and destruction,
>> through the continuous cruelty. we don't think clearly,
>> perhaps not at all, impossible but occurring, absent here
>> but there, but continuous, but incessant, what is to come
>> everywhere our abject fear, our fear is safe _here,_ it
>> is our fear to own from _this_ distance, this safety.
>> we did years ago have ongoing discussions on email lists
>> set up for that purpose, war, violence, testimony. now we
>> have our _safe nightmares_ as cruelty spreads everywhere.
>> perhaps everything falls short of weeping, of our safety
>> here, perhaps not. inside we were napalm not real here
>> we are irreal bombardment, accounts, disasters, bodies,
>> limbs, massacres, children, infants, so many civilians,
>> we have the duty here now of _thinking inconceivability_
>> to respond with art, music, writings, analyses, otherwise
>> than _there,_ in different words _here_ and not _there,_
>> the safety of the aporia, the moment of the trench
>> adjacent to the cusp. i contribute this long-necked saz
>> piece, i am useless, we watch the war inside of us, we
>> survive in the safety, for now, of our bodies, our minds
>> elsewhere, no where at all, the world inconceivable, lost
>>
>> it'simpossibletocomprehendwhatisoccurringinGaza,
>> impossibletothinkthroughtheviolenceanddestruction,
>> throughthecontinuouscruelty.wedon'tthinkclearly,
>> perhapsnotatall,impossiblebutoccurring,absenthere
>> butthere,butcontinuous,butincessant,whatistocome
>> everywhereourabjectfear,ourfearissafe_here,_it
>> isourfeartoownfrom_this_distance,thissafety.
>> wedidyearsagohaveongoingdiscussionsonemaillists
>> setupforthatpurpose,war,violence,testimony.nowwe
>> haveour_safenightmares_ascrueltyspreadseverywhere.
>> perhapseverythingfallsshortofweeping,ofoursafety
>> here,perhapsnot.insidewewerenapalmnotrealhere
>> weareirrealbombardment,accounts,disasters,bodies,
>> limbs,massacres,children,infants,somanycivilians,
>> wehavethedutyherenowof_thinkinginconceivability_
>> torespondwithart,music,writings,analyses,otherwise
>> than_there,_indifferentwords_here_andnot_there,_
>> thesafetyoftheaporia,themomentofthetrench
>> adj

Re: [NetBehaviour] Gaza

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi Ana,

These are remarkable, the photographs might have been taken today.
So much of the Chassidic literature I've read seems to be oriented towards
peace and exaltation, not this, not what's going on.
In Jerusalem, so many religions are present, so much conflict. I remember
walking into town and there would be potshards on the path from any number
of centuries.
I do believe Netanyahu should be tried for war crimes! There must be a
better way to deal with hamas than wholesale destruction.
Here in Providence, people are on edge. People take sides of course.
There's implicit violence everywhere. I fear for the lighting of the city
menorah (there is one)...

Thank you so so much for the images and account -

Best, Alan

On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 6:43 PM Ana Valdés  wrote:

> Dear all I was too appalled to participate in any discussion about what is
> happening in Palestine just now. But I was so touched by Alan's powerful
> lyrics that I wanted to share my little contribution.
> I come to Ramallah in the West Bank in 2001, invited by the European
> Community to make a tour through Palestinian cultural centres.
> We were a group of maybe 16 or 18, dancers, actors, writers, painters. We
> were greeted by politicians and intellectuals we visited Mahmoud Darwish in
> his house and saw theater and exhibitions.
> We were planning to go to Jerusalem but a bomb exploded somewhere and the
> second Intifada started.
> Our group was evacuated to the hotel Ambassador in the Arab part of the
> city very near the Swedish consulate.
> We spent there a week awaiting the permits for leaving. It was a chaotic
> lobby with people being evacuated from Gaza Nablus Jericho Bethlehem.
> We left and we asked out Palestinian hosts what could we do to support
> them.
> They said come back don't forget us a people occupied and desperate.
> We need witness.
> Some months later my friend the Swedish visual artist Cecilia Parsberg and
> me travelled again in our own paying our oxn expenses and we arrived to
> Jenin a city in the North near Haifa which was besieged by the Israeli army
> since ten days back.
> Nobody knew what's happened all communication was broken no telephone no
> radio no tv no journalists.
> We travelled with smugglers through a mined landscape and we arrived to
> Jenin which was surrounded by huge tanks. We climbed the hills with
> hundreds of Palestinian and we come to a place of devastation very similar
> to what's Gaza today.
> It smelled acred and rancid tens of bodies were dead among the rubble of
> demolished houses. We spent a few days taking pictures speaking with people
> and writing articles.
> www.ceciliaparsberg.se/jenin
>
> It was twenty years ago but the pictures could have been taken yesterday
> as the texts could also be written today.
>
> The war and the attacks of Hamas happened not in a vacuum they are the
> direct consequences of the occupation.
>
> I was in Tel Aviv invited by Gush Shalom and Bat Shalom the small and
> courageous peace movements in Israel grounded by Uri Avnery Hawa Keller and
> others, survivors of Auschwitz and Dachau.
>
> They took me to the Knesset where we met hundreds of your refuseniks girls
> and boys everyone held by their hands by grandparents survivors of the
> camps.
>
> The elder said to the Israeli brass "we barely survived we lost everything
> but we learned morality and solidarity we can never submit another people
> for what they did to us. Revenge is not a Jewish value".
>
> I read the same words today there are many soldiers refusing to enter Gaza
> and participate in this revenge war.
>
> Israel should learn peace is not gained militarily and safety and security
> are only achieved with justice.
>
> Israel must end the occupation and the Palestinian need their own state
> now.
>
> Ana
>
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 at 20:05, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Johannes,
>>
>> A number of things. First, several weeks ago I put up a fairly long post
>> which was based totally on the practical, and there was a good discussion
>> that emerged from this. Second of all, having had a year in Israel and two
>> other trips in the past, and in touch with someone who works on a
>> diplomatic level (as well as my mother who, I think I mentioned, made over
>> 50 diplomatic trips to the mid-east in the interests of piece), I think
>> I've read enough and written enough on the practical; I am also entitled,
>> as we all are, to an artistic and emotional response.
>>
>>  I can say again, it's impossible to comprehend. Net. and company are far
>> right-wing are far right-wing, supported by the religious far-right who
>> vote enbloc. I do not go

Re: [NetBehaviour] Gaza

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi Johannes,

A number of things. First, several weeks ago I put up a fairly long post
which was based totally on the practical, and there was a good discussion
that emerged from this. Second of all, having had a year in Israel and two
other trips in the past, and in touch with someone who works on a
diplomatic level (as well as my mother who, I think I mentioned, made over
50 diplomatic trips to the mid-east in the interests of piece), I think
I've read enough and written enough on the practical; I am also entitled,
as we all are, to an artistic and emotional response.

 I can say again, it's impossible to comprehend. Net. and company are far
right-wing are far right-wing, supported by the religious far-right who
vote enbloc. I do not go along with their policies.
Again, it is not only Jews who are afraid here; an Islamic man selling
religious items outside a mosque, here, in Providence, was shot recently.
Again, Gaza hasn't been self-governing for decades, and what would you want
to see come out of that? Much less the W. bank with Israeli settler
violence.
My friend is working on this diplomatically. I do what I can, we all do.
I'm frightened. I hate Net. etc.
I think you and I have to break ranks here. I do care what the left says.
As I mentioned when I was in Is. the 1st time I had a letter of protest
published in the Israeli engl language national paper - supporting the
Arabs; already I saw what was going on, and this was less than two decades
after the Holocaust.
Finally without thinking inconceivably, you wouldn't have Paul Celan,
possibly not Karl Krauss (who I am reading in depth now), and a number of
other writers.
And Providence is NOT a "lovely democratic safe community" as far as I can
see.

Best, Alan, apologies, you touched a nerve. Everyone I know is struggling
over the war with widely varying responses; if one type of response doesn't
suit you, you can just ignore it. I value your friendship more tha that.

You always have the choice of course not to read my posts or anyone's; if
you'd read my earlier one, you would have realized I also am on the
practical side, perhaps more than you think.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 3:34 PM Johannes Birringer via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

>
> >>we have the duty here now of _thinking inconceivability_
> to respond with art, music, writings, analyses..>>
>
> Alan I agree with what you write, I disagree with what you write too. I
> realize yes, remembering it well, a few years ago, during the war in Syria
> and the ISIS attacks,
> we created a discussion, for a whole month, on "ISIS, Absolute Terror,
> Performance" (empyre list). I also remember collating all the
> contributions, editing it all for a book, and we did not find a
> publisher.
>
> These past weeks, October-November, I heard a few expressions here, about
> "yes, but", and "yes and." In tried to join a discussion, and posted here,
> but no one was really discussing,  and art, Alan, "art, music,
> writings...",. well it has been a disaster I think.
>
>  No one here wanted to say outright that it is not quite right to argue
> that "it's impossible to comprehend what is occurring in Gaza, impossible
> to think through the violence and destruction, through the continuous
> cruelty."  It is possible.
>
> I see it in Germany and England, and I hear it from Jewish friends in in
> this country and my neighbor country (France), and from friends in the US;
> Jewish families are afraid to send their children to school or go out of
> their homes, their houses in Berlin have been defaced, Synagogues attacked,
> demonstrations in London shout for annihilation of Israel, and I cannot
> calm down my anger, after the atrocious attacks of Hamas against Jewish
> civilians, which has now led to the new military repercussions. We
> experienced the attack on Ukraine, and many declared their solidarity with
> Ukrainians; I tried to also help raising awareness, we showed Ukrainian
> film and photos in a gallery where I work, and I will do the same for
> Israel defending itself against inhuman, grotesque violence, and using Gaza
> civilians now as a shield (they are not a shield) - offering them up as
> victims.
>
> What I am saying is that the conflict is not inconceivable, and yes there
> is a historical context (i don't care what, I am upset about what the Left
> says,  what Greta Thunberg has to say); but why are so very very few arts
> organizations, theatres, galleries,  writers, musicians expressing their
> solidarity with Jews who now afraid of their lives and safety, not only in
> Israel, but right here in all our lovely democratic safe communities in the
> West and the North. I grew up with the stern, incontrovertible maxim,
> 'never again'  ;  and now it happens right h

[NetBehaviour] Gaza

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Gaza

https://youtu.be/Yda-c_4agZA (saz)

it's impossible to comprehend what is occurring in Gaza,
impossible to think through the violence and destruction,
through the continuous cruelty. we don't think clearly,
perhaps not at all, impossible but occurring, absent here
but there, but continuous, but incessant, what is to come
everywhere our abject fear, our fear is safe _here,_ it
is our fear to own from _this_ distance, this safety.
we did years ago have ongoing discussions on email lists
set up for that purpose, war, violence, testimony. now we
have our _safe nightmares_ as cruelty spreads everywhere.
perhaps everything falls short of weeping, of our safety
here, perhaps not. inside we were napalm not real here
we are irreal bombardment, accounts, disasters, bodies,
limbs, massacres, children, infants, so many civilians,
we have the duty here now of _thinking inconceivability_
to respond with art, music, writings, analyses, otherwise
than _there,_ in different words _here_ and not _there,_
the safety of the aporia, the moment of the trench
adjacent to the cusp. i contribute this long-necked saz
piece, i am useless, we watch the war inside of us, we
survive in the safety, for now, of our bodies, our minds
elsewhere, no where at all, the world inconceivable, lost

it'simpossibletocomprehendwhatisoccurringinGaza,
impossibletothinkthroughtheviolenceanddestruction,
throughthecontinuouscruelty.wedon'tthinkclearly,
perhapsnotatall,impossiblebutoccurring,absenthere
butthere,butcontinuous,butincessant,whatistocome
everywhereourabjectfear,ourfearissafe_here,_it
isourfeartoownfrom_this_distance,thissafety.
wedidyearsagohaveongoingdiscussionsonemaillists
setupforthatpurpose,war,violence,testimony.nowwe
haveour_safenightmares_ascrueltyspreadseverywhere.
perhapseverythingfallsshortofweeping,ofoursafety
here,perhapsnot.insidewewerenapalmnotrealhere
weareirrealbombardment,accounts,disasters,bodies,
limbs,massacres,children,infants,somanycivilians,
wehavethedutyherenowof_thinkinginconceivability_
torespondwithart,music,writings,analyses,otherwise
than_there,_indifferentwords_here_andnot_there,_
thesafetyoftheaporia,themomentofthetrench
adjacenttothecusp.icontributethislong-neckedsaz
piece,iamuseless,wewatchthewarinsideofus,we
surviveinthesafety,fornow,ofourbodies,ourminds
elsewhere,nowhereatall,theworldinconceivable,lost
*/the hurry/*

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[NetBehaviour] Providence Festival of Lights last night

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Providence Festival of Lights last night

https://youtu.be/eSv6ROFGBUM video

We arrived at the parking lot for the Festival of Lights,
and stayed for Yacouba Diabate and Big Nazo. On the way
back our local bar had a fire alarm! Curtains drawn.

Big Nazo - "Blink Bots and Aliens parade with
Providence Drum Troupe" -
Yacouba Diabate - on Kora

Early evening with an intensity of color and sound,
wonderful! The Kora playing was fantastic, amazing music!

Enjoy!

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[NetBehaviour] Auto/gnomic Bio

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Auto/gnomic Bio

http://www.alansondheim.org/dontlookback.jpg

Your arms runs into my scheduled. So I had a video call with him
and I worked and talked:It was too hot and they're worth_Storm
schedule. Thunderstorm:1:I had an appointment with the doctor
today. I didn't want to go in.:scheduled. So I had a video call
with him and I worked and talked - turning me clausterphobic

to some extent my brother understood me but none of my family,
not after the debacle of the acker films at the whitney, made
any attempt to engage me with what i was doing, lived in my head
joined the american forestry association played with model
trucks and stuff read under the covers caught at 3 am in the
morning my father yelling at me again he was screaming at me at
my daughters wedding they wouldn't give me a ride to the place,
my family crashed down around me, i always sensed emotional
violence, i didn't know how to relate to anyone, always fearful
dancing on mean streets thanks Gerald Jones who passed on
miserably in hospital i gathered in his own , i'm not a good
person learned that at an early age :i was never physically
abused but knew to my core i was worthless throwaway, in the
family nincompoop and wastrel my kept silent the other two
mocking and or furious what i remember i couldn't do anything
right fidgeting constantly working myself up running to the
historical society went to a ham radio meeting was told to stop
fidgeting in camp the head told me i'd be dead at 25 if i didn't
slow up always i went to extremes didn't know how to behave you
want more?:around the table i tended to leave when my father
lost his temper, ran back into the bedroom, slammed the door,
came out, left the house, slammed the door walked a while came
back in shaking sometimes cold out there my sister the perfect
one my brother maybe not there yet not eating soup:arguments
around the dinner table, he never hit me but the verbal
screaming broke me down fast when he returned from wwii and i
know: i shouldn't have been there - when he returned - anytime
at all - always :fear constantly of everything

Come home with me, to some extent my brother understood me but
none of my family, not after the debacle of the acker films at
the whitney, made any attempt to engage me with what i was
doing, lived in my head joined the american forestry association
played with model trucks and stuff read under the covers caught
at 3 am in the morning my father yelling at me again he was
screaming at me at my daughters wedding they wouldn't give me a
ride to the place, my family crashed down around me, i always
sensed emotional violence, i didn't know how to relate to
anyone, always fearful dancing on mean streets thanks Gerald
Jones who passed on miserably in hospital i gathered in his own
, i'm not a good person learned that at an early age ,
julu-of-the-fast-crowd! Your clean i know deep down i can do
anything but be destructive and to other people and then think
maybe that's not true, is in my taut Azure's helped me
enormously, i'd be nowhere without her

Your giving :Think this through...::being runs me hiking your
cloth!:My print "Ah...\n"; is yours... is in my rich My is
yours... my rich dependent on them couldn't at all one year
made 40k my best... debacle in Tasmania... Atlanta best...

Your withdrawn You program your carapace forever... is in my
walked scheduled. So I had a video call with him and I worked
and talked:It was too hot and they're worth_Storm schedule.
Thunderstorm:1:I had an appointment with the doctor today. I
didn't want to go in.:scheduled. So I had a video call with him
and I worked and talked

Pennsylvanian Despairing
Depths:yes:2:Strange-Place:Pennsylvanian Despairing Depths

Your psychotic other other people. I'm tired of being inserted
between one is in my on person and another person between a
person on the left and the person on the right not-me a writer

I want to put my body into the code I want the load of my body
to ::Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:11:09 -0400:person and another person
between a person on the left and the :person on the right
between the person above and a person below

Your withdrawn ... my shoes is For 1 found days, I have been
neurotic programmed ... here, it's my shoes? is in my walked
or walking nowhere, whatever, whatthen, whatever

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[NetBehaviour] Clubland (amazing music take)

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Clubland (amazing music take)

https://youtu.be/NRUUM8Ht_1E YouTube full Video
http://www.alansondheim.org/clubland2.mp4 short graphics clip
https://youtu.be/NRUUM8Ht_1E YouTube full Video


CLUBLAND lies just outside our window, 4 stories down then a bit
to the right, CLUBLAND is drunk and loud sometimes the cops come
don't they now sometimes not, CLUBLAND informs us of being human
so badly we want it haunt it flaunt it, CLUBLAND sings, wings,
sometimes swings, CLUBLAND kills our sleep, spills for thrills
out in the night packed to the gills even in chills, that said -
I lean the recorder against the window pane, window's pain yet
again, set it to the vibrations of the same game, sit back at a
distance pittance, play guitar like a rock star, soft and clear
don't fear comes through blue, record the mix make a fix with
the amplitude skewed and rude even lewd, this rhyme time worth a
dime. So then three times mixed and patched and scratched the
video, crashed the computer, so you got: 1. the full version of
the sound (amazing) with leader (above); 2. short clip with just
the beginning with complex graphics; 3. longer clip w/ possible
future use as well - both 2 and 3 crashing the machine - would
take overnight to render, machine heating up, then crashing out
- so see the other url above - just for the graphics - and the
YouTube full version - for the amazing sound I must admit yet
again - which is here -

https://youtu.be/NRUUM8Ht_1E YouTube full Video

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[NetBehaviour] From ETC (Experimental Television Center) history -

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

From ETC (Experimental Television Center) history -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2xtv5rl57k

"Alan Sondheim

Foofwa was with Merce Cunningham at the time, and we recorded him with a
number of cameras which were switched on and off by my voice. The music
had been prerecorded at ETC as well. The work emphasizes the physicality
of classical ballet in relation to the real body and exhaustion of the
dancer.

I tended to work quickly at ETC in general; years before, in 1967, we had
built a music synthesizer with VCO, VCA, etc. from scratch - there were no
blueprints at the time. So I became familiar with analog controls early on
- and the ensuing production techniques that emerged from them. ETC
allowed this all to occur in what was, for me, an ideal workspace /
livespace / playspace / dancespace/ performance space - an open loft next
to the Susquehanna River (I grew up in Kingston, Pennsylvania, next to the
same) - with a bookstore across the street, a still bridge which we could
attach contact microphones to, a town with a gazebo perfect for dancework
at 4 a.m. in the morning, nature and ponds around, and so forth. I
remember a bat flying over our heads one night when we were falling asleep
- wonderful!

The equipment was relatively easy to use, and I tried to work with
everything, including a very old character generator which was the core of
some of my work. I loved the analog video synthesizers as well, which were
more like living organisms - one negotiated with them, and that was always
amazing. I used the Mirage Ensoniq constantly for music; its combination
of analog and digital with floppies was breathtaking. Later I found a
second-hand one but it gave out on me; I still try to find one to use for
my music/soundwork.

You ask about "citizen of the world" - but it was more like citizen of the
Universe! The machines had an inner light of their own, and living and
working in the same space meant we could get up at 4 a.m. if one of us had
an idea, and work through the night. In the short times of the
residencies, we were able to produce hours of finished work, as if there
were always dialogs organically growing among us and the machinery, which
had a life of its own.

I remember beavers, Foofwa dancing on the railing of a pier overlooking a
frozen pond, recording ballet and movie musical dancing on the street in
front of the loft at 3 a.m. in the morning.

It was perfect. I took that experience later to the work I did at the
Virtual Environments Laboratory (VEL) at West Virginia University,
Morgantown, and more recently to working with motion capture
experimentation at New Jersey Institute of Technology, NYU, Columbia
College (Chicago), and elsewhere. A certain grace and camaraderie with
machines, bodies, intermixtures of analog and digital apparatus. And I
work through this even now.

ETC was seminal!"

NIKUKO with Azure Carter and Foofwa dImobilite (YouTube)

121 views  Sep 13, 2017
Foofwa d'Imobilite, Azure Carter, Alan Sondheim, Experimental Television
Center, ballet, abjection

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[NetBehaviour] Language, Cataract, Silence

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Language, Cataract, Silence

https://youtu.be/iweZ3BvPApw video

(images from post cataract operation, fixed-focus lens, 2009)

If language was the presentation of truth, there would be no
present. Tense is already gone by the time it is spoken. The
past tense isn't umbrella. That refers to nothing existence
existent in the future. Tense as always already passed by, the
time it is spoken and it's a chimera.  Now it's referred to
nothing except categories which exist in the mind's eye in which
fail in relationship to tolerances. Personifications, the
personal histories, everything slides. everything slides.
nothing it's stable when you turn your head one way or another,
the same changes an alternative and alterably.  . but while it's
changing, you may still be saying I see a tree and that refers
to nothing but a memory of something that's already engraved in
the mind and has been given the absence of a name and
relationship to the past. And an inconceivable future where
nothing will be spoken that you know and your language will
already be uninterpretable. Unimaginable, untranslateable and
unmeaning.  It's the fragility of what we say in relationship to
what we do. I know from playing instruments that there are so
many strata going on simultaneously that it's impossible to tell
one from another to dissect them to make them speak with voices
that are so linear that they're impossible. the music itself
disappears as soon as it's made.  . in a sense, the music has
already disappeared before. It was made before the when there
was nothing because

   because when it was made, it was already prefigured
preconfigured, the movements were already starting the muscles
were already being toned in the memory was already scratching
and circulating looking for something or other that would then
be reflected in something or rather in the real world.  . it's
all this, it's always all this diffusion diffusion. The only
thing that isn't is death because you have to death, however,
blurred that boundary may be, there is really nothing you might
say or might be said to you. there is nothing to be understood
or that might be understood by you. it's always oh, it's always
already gone. just as before your birth. That's always already
gone for others. But not for you can look back. It's almost with
a sense of condescending and inconfigure or preconfigure. What
they were on about as far as you know and as far as you know is
all there is to know and that is what concerns you about them
and what no longer concerns them about you.


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[NetBehaviour] game theory game

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game theory game

https://youtu.be/B8NvfPLH8B0 video

this is the game theory game. for the past three years i have
played a word game on my 15 year old zaurus. it is similar to
scrabble. i must make decisions whether a word is acceptable or
not. i search for rare patterns, for example the resulting game
extremely short with no more moves; the game with an overall
geometry; the game which avoids most of the corners and mid-
lines (edge middles); the game with other peculiarities such as
density or despair; the games with extremely high scores. many
of the final positions have been saved. i think i probably
played 2000 or so games beginning through covid including my
covid. here are some of the more interesting final positions,
and you may admire through archaeological processes of your own,
what transpired in them, in other words conundrum. the images
are sideways with a few other things thrown in. the soundtrack
is, well, the soundtrack whose source is another mystery from
the 1980s surely, between dallas and buffalo and providence.
in order to figure out the game through your investigations,
i must say, there is no answer, and in fact, as in life as well,
everything unravels, faster or slower, and everything unravels
everything. head turned sideways, as mine often is, i would
slow, stop, and ponder, and perhaps something will come to mind.

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[NetBehaviour] Sward, Metaphysics, Ecstatic, Embrace, Embryonic

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Sward, Metaphysics, Ecstatic, Embrace, Embryonic

https://youtu.be/B2-sxDsUpKU video

tenor ocarina, supercollider, photography of/for Azure Carter,
meditative form, costumes and conceptions by Azure, sound
and sound conceptions by myself

All of which coagulated formed and informed collapsed and
extended dissolved and embroiled informed turbulence that's
smoothed out within the HS of using electronics to reverse time
to introvert time to transform time backwards and forwards
placing it again within the matrix I could only go in One
Direction collapsed into several several streams interacting
Stereophonics really contradicting speech forms such as this
While presenting symmetries of form and time which are
introverted within themselves and within the formal display and
production of sound in this work . This is the way the world
began and this was the way the world ended and this was the way
the world went on and on and on while the computer was unable to
handle the material here and I had to reconfigure it over and
over again as well to take it so that it would reproduce itself
as a single or singular file. I want to inhabit these spaces . I
want to inhabit these spaces a beautiful death a beautiful life
of the cemetery which carries both with flocks of birds and bell
towers. I want to live there among others, among many others
among all of us among of all all of us who are gone and all of
us who are yet to come I love all of us who are yet to arrive
and all of us who will not arrive who will no longer arrive who
will no longer have arrived who will no longer have come to
arriving who will no longer hear the word departure or the bells
ringing or the music ending or the music coming to an end where
the voice or the breath coming to an end with the sound coming
to an end , Oh so softly does the sound come to an end oh so
softly do the brackets close themselves selves upon the last
remaining words . We are on the edge or lip or the sward where
all of this occurs however all of this leaves us behind as if
the world were always and now more than ever rushing away
quietly as if it were noiseless, making noise

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Re: [NetBehaviour] serious question about identity theft - need help -

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Agreed, I'll probably have to let this go. But because it's using some of 
my language and words, I feel deeply violated and worry that it might be 
developed against me or taken as me by people who don't know. It's 
godawful ugly and I'd hope there'd be copyright violations, but that would 
require lawyers etc. and I don't have the money for that.


God I hate this medium at times - all the ads, hatreds, etc. I wonder how 
long it will be before my YouTube stuff is taken down...


Best, Alan, and thanks -

On Fri, 24 Nov 2023, Paul Hertz via NetBehaviour wrote:


Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2023 17:10:01 -0600
From: Paul Hertz via NetBehaviour 
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

Cc: Paul Hertz 
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] serious question about identity theft - need help
-

Hi Alan,

You can complain to the internet service provider for asondheim.org, which
seems to be wildwestdomains.com, according to the whois registry. However,
this is unlikely to result in any satisfactory outcome, as wildwestdomains
is basically a privacy shield service provider (see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domains_by_Proxy).

If asondheim.org does not get much traffic (as seems likely) and it doesn't
change (likely, too, I  think it's just parked), it may not be worth
bothering about. I had similar adventures with variations on
paulhertz., but I don't think there's ever been any doubt about
which site is actually mine.

Sorry I can't provide a good blunt instrument to compel miscreants to fall
into line.

Paul


 
# whois.publicinterestregistry.org

Domain Name: asondheim.org
Registry Domain ID: 793f949c39e44eaabb835d920b99eef1-LROR
Registrar WHOIS Server: http://whois.wildwestdomains.com
Registrar URL: http://whois.wildwestdomains.com
Updated Date: 2023-06-20T17:12:15Z
Creation Date: 2002-09-28T17:58:20Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2024-09-28T17:59:31Z
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  Hi - I'm writing to ask if you could help or recommend anything
  - years
  ago my domain asondheim.org was bought out from under me by
  someone in
  Australia who offered to sell it back for a high price. I opened
  up
  alansondheim.org and have been using that ever

[NetBehaviour] serious question about identity theft - need help -

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi - I'm writing to ask if you could help or recommend anything - years 
ago my domain asondheim.org was bought out from under me by someone in 
Australia who offered to sell it back for a high price. I opened up 
alansondheim.org and have been using that ever since. Last night by 
accident I went to asondheim.org and found identity theft and I don't know 
what to do about it - he's taken my name, my work, and turned it into 
something about health industry that has to be a scam. If you have any 
idea what to do or could do something at your end it would be greatly 
greatly appreciated. I'm obviously distraught, I feel seriously violated. 
I don't know where to turn since I'm no longer university affiliated of 
course and haven't been for a while. Please let me know what you think - 
do I have to live with this?


Thank you so much - you can forward this to others if you think that 
would help. Please don't publicize.


Best, Alan, thank you -
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[NetBehaviour] after no after

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after no after

https://youtu.be/j-IUJrAmqEc video (some flicker)

glory born: because when that happens, when there is that flash
or somewhat there and there might first be an uncanny smell, no
that would take some time wouldn't it, no there would be first
the sight, always the sight and that is fearful then later the
sound, the touch of ash perhaps after that, smell for some
reason of gas or oil, something oily, something from the earth
that shouldn't be there, then there's the problem, from all
directions and then what, what might occur, into the bunker with
you! or some such, if not the bunker, then what, , then the
forest, if not the forest, i write with eyes closed, the touch
of the keys perhaps the last touch, i'm not sure, is this coming
through, is it coming out, are you coming out, withdraw
immediately, they are at ... then there's something else, this,
and then after that, what might occur O fearful! because what
we're left - oh i see, what we're left (with( - no it can't be
that... ragged, theERA of AIR is replaced by the EYRIE or what,
that's also, understood, with theyes closed curtains drawn
windows shut, night emerg, no maybe well not is present it's the
guid of odors, something like that, on the run or walk, charnal
something like that, i hear the sound of a thousand keys turning
over the graves of letters, someone died maybe the 22th centurt
like that i remember now,, cavalcade, charnalhus, cc: to whom it
may concern - should be all of our concern/s - gone quiet now,
that music < the world keeps repeating > jjust now - subterfuge
- obsequious - those nursery rhyumes , something - some )thing_


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[NetBehaviour] Plague of Language Noise

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Plague of Language Noise

https://youtu.be/YFma0nWcjVA video

JT: Ah yes, I remember now, the plague about the witnessing of
the plague  is the subject.
AD: This is a sphere where the plague canot enter
JT: What kind of a sphere where the plague canot enter is it?
JT: Ah yes, I remember now, the plague about the witnessing of
the plague is the subject.

But what I will carry, like or permanent virus, is this: plague,
easements one has to be blind things, warfare, by global warming
breakdown ozone layer, This trace dancer remains, against wall
and care contract with song. didn't do that c. Internet haves
have-nots: continuous upgrading now n stemSbut you know
rearrange: of language gauges savior come, pure annihilation -
dalization, destruction, other words, accounts received
insideme, i not; but this felt locust, take you everywhere,
emitted deep double cusp virtuality. As thwarted precisely
pennsylvania bodies difference spreading across canon genre,
classic To these criminals, properly so called, incurable
flatters societies semi-criminals fall down, consume, consumed
blightcobblestones caught sullen cold rain. rosie pox death),
planet heading towards chemical disease totalitarian life,
cold-life annihilations. covered Not binarism, on avatars,
seminal disturbances can't quite figure them into upon Ring live
traffic fissuring (plague death, world around (the approach
subsided; if anything, it prairie center edge develops, not
healing, closer. Otherwise chases critical journal year; well
buried victims; Viral plagues, overturned cobblestones, plague.
onslaught. journey resurgence smallpox plagues Rosie us, then
plunge America an enormous inertia midst cannot think
debilitating headaches which were site, sight, locus. It's more
imaginations availes medina omar what's left us nanotechnologies
purification. i'm salvation. order Sports passport password past
anti-semitism increased year. love time virtual lands field,
picked up for famine, drought,  On war earthquake murder here
there, it's power some you, appearance virus usual voice-chant i
don't alien trajectories. related corona fourth series
meditations quarantine. A truth functions, debate ancient India,
logics, any more, inertia, everywhere floods, fires, crusades,
wars, imagining unaided no avail, league imagined flee me won't
give devils their side: less, exhausted, myriad beings while
coming food ring might away rich silver journeys plague's mud
problematic harsh sun; dream lives worsened began suffer those
terribly throat face. "machines had always antonin artaud. at
age five emanations pressing ribs gapes stomach, first lpmud
been contaminated. viral organs socius general. stemsbut "this
internet ding beyond didst tell saidst idea passover questions
every place site massacre. source sutured, politics history
face-down machine-gunned men, we appeared released smallpox,
measles, all sorts. rest things rot your plagues. eleven o'clock
morning, day will. tuberculosis, diptheria, forget there's
nothing b plague); shoot kill anything avoid pain flight india,
wraiths, spirits children killed plunged centring can smell now;
absolution. wonder strangers otherwise really coronavirus; fear,
hatreds, horizon violence journey. law itself cut war, cartels.
america isn't public whether apply sheaves sions damps gathered
skin tears unbreathable, asthma allergic choice-televisual
web-inversion subjectivity soiled mold radio rumor seduction
offer alone. :semi-criminals sickness design JT: Ah yes,
remember now, about witnessing subject. AD: sphere where canot
enter What kind it? after Thought, drought abandoned space,
coronation forth, materials including course Defoe's kind,
kindness hover within, our death murder news trauma announces
slightest provocation done quote each other, lay down aphorism,
have, weaponry notwithstanding. they that. necessary because
covid still speak/write, descending wit Covid have sutured over.
My symptoms

https://youtu.be/YFma0nWcjVA video

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[NetBehaviour] desperados' despair

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desperados' despair

https://youtu.be/nY2TmZ5RUqo video

Molochite: place to soft place and I am so glad it is not a war
but Molochite:: the place to soft place and I am so glad it is
not a war Molochite:: but the A Warrant officer or Chun-wi is
not a warrant. not a war it's not a war, it's butchery it's not
a war, it's genocide it's not a war, it's slaughter [You may
have heard "It's not a war" before; I suggest { It's not a war,
its butchery It's not a war, its genocide It's not a war, its
slaughter } it's not a war it's not a war, it's butchery it's
not a war, it's genocide it's not a war, it's slaughter it's not
a war, it's butchery it's not a war, it's genocide it's not a
war, it's slaughter it's not a war, it's butchery it's not a
war, it's genocide it's not a war, it's slaughter -- [::] : the
world is not a war the world contains a war of the man be a war
was in a world that they are not a war with an

As above, so as below As above so as below As above, so as
below, my friends As above, so as below - As above, so as below
- As above, so as below As above, so as below, my friends As
above, so as below - As above, so as below As above, so as below
As above, so as below, my friends As above, so as below - As
above, so as below As above, so as below As above, so as below,
my friends As above, so as below - As above, so as below As
above, so as below As above, so as below, my friends As above,
so as below - As above, so as below As above, so as below As
above, so as below, my friends As above, so as below - As above,
so as below As above, so as below As above, so as below, my
friends As above, so as below - As above, so as below

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Re: [NetBehaviour] 1. (no subject) (Alan Sondheim)

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Thank you so much! It also relates to the body of course, to breathing,
something missing for me from AI and overly produced music, for example,
Truetone. I wrote an article a while ago (that was published in a
Netherlands anthropology journal! on Kyoto Date (Date Kyoko), the first of
the virtual idols in Japan, and what that meant. And of course it's gone on
from there. It's one reason I like Taylor Swift, for all her production, it
(seems to be) (is) her and people relate to that and perhaps a different
kind of presencing than we're used to. (I could of course be wrong about
all of this).

And also, I hope this makes sense -

love to all, Alan

On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 3:47 AM Daniele Minns  wrote:

> Bit of a slow response here . . .
> Re: 'pieces accompanied by video in fact is not music in the ordinary
>
> sense of the word but perhaps an attempt create a space a kind
>
> of space , a space for philosophy that is not necessarily
>
> (written, spoken, musical) language. The point for me is in
>
> these long forms it's not the content, scales, etc. that's
>
> critical, but almost something subterranean.'
>
>
> I found this so beautiful and meaningful.
>
>
> This boundaryless mingling of genre and form is, I believe, the future, a
> more evolved art, that creative technologies are hinting at with their
> synaestheisic flows between movement sound words, tone, even thought and
> ideas, so experience is more open and not as defined by parameters so to
> me, what you attempt to describe but probably can’t because of it’s
> amorphous nature, and limitations of language, makes total sense. It
> relates, I think, to the porosity and interconnectedness of all forms and
> phenomena.
>
> It doesn't seem  'pretentious or delusional!'
>
>
>
> I hope this makes sense
>
>
> With love
>
>
> Daniele
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[NetBehaviour] amanuensis

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amanuensis

https://youtu.be/Pp8XJGL7yQ4 video!

i can't get rid of it, Vito haunted by my amanuensis, hungered,
disappeared, thirsted, Vladimir, so purely brilliant, a glance
holding its own, amanuensis. of the cyber-galactic, amanuensis,
claws, horror of the cyber-galactic, you dare to ask why i don't
sleep at night, 'the' serrated edges, forms of these amanuenses
that surround us, draw us out. horror of them, grabbed by the
throat witch won of us. my amanuensis -- diagnostics whose
digital amanuensis sinks into the palimpsest, microscopy.
experimentation, There have been so many of the variety of
_amanuensis,_ bloodriver amanuensis intangible amanuensis of
real time; perhaps the listener is bloodriver amanuensis
"Otherwise," she said. the drawn amanuensis, the figured. from
amanuensis - things, currency, migration. other, encompassed by
too dirge amanuensis falling from the sky. a able about
amanuensis and are as august Vito be bound In the image, able
about amanuensis and are as august as a wire not this, not night
specters, not haunted or hunted, not deprived of thought, not
this, not that, migraine, violation fabric, indecent posture,
insertions, disappearances, supplementary limbs, inert limbus,
impostulations, ordinary, clawed, torn, from me unto me, within
me into me, helical, violation fabrication, stories from within
out of me, this, thus, here, now, time

(on another note, this was similar to sport, attempting to hold
everything together, in balance, to work through moving align-
ments.)

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Thoughts on Israel/Palestine

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e of safety is immeasurable.
>>>
>>>
>>> Your post also reminded me of the importance of constant work for
>>> imagining and enacting routes to peace and justice from all quarters. No
>>> matter what happens, we can be sure that if we stop talking to each other,
>>> trying to understand what is happening, making our voices heard through all
>>> channels; if we give up trying, there is really no hope. Therefore I was
>>> supergrateful for your research into all the different peace strategies and
>>> tactics that you have come across on these lines.
>>>
>>> You asked if art, music and discussion on lists help at a time like
>>> this. For me, the answer is a resounding YES!
>>>
>>> Love and respect
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 8:48 AM Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour <
>>> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> (apologies for so much posting recently, cutting back)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts on Israel/Palestine
>>>>
>>>> 0. Like everyone else, I've been ruminating more or less in
>>>> despair at the situation in Israel/Palestine. Until my mother
>>>> died, she was active in the Hadassah women's organization,
>>>> and made many trips to the Mid-East and Europe, working on
>>>> peace processes; I have many of her documents and some of her
>>>> talks here. In any case, thinking about the situation,
>>>> however naive I might be -
>>>>
>>>> 1. A two-state solution is absolutely necessary; nations need
>>>> self-governance all the way around. There's no reason that
>>>> the West Bank and Gaza cannot be united through physical and
>>>> eletronic internetworking that would be able to respond
>>>> quickly to crisis.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Israel must pull out of Gaza; what started as defense and
>>>> retribution has turned into a massacre on the order of
>>>> Dresden or the Warsaw ghetto. Beyond the politics there's an
>>>> outdated issue of saving face which is increasingly deadly.
>>>>
>>>> 3. I believe that Israel still has nuclear weapons, and these
>>>> should be off the table completely. A war of any sort in
>>>> these small areas can escalate into annihilation: to the
>>>> limit as I once wrote.
>>>>
>>>> 4. The hospital systems of Gaza and Israel should connect and
>>>> the wounded of all parties should be able to receive
>>>> immediate treatment.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Talks should begin on all of this, sidelining Netanyahu and
>>>> Hamas; there should be no room for absolutism.
>>>>
>>>> 6. Jerusalem, in parts, should be an international city; there
>>>> are a number of religions which are somewhat central there,
>>>> and there should be no competition. It would be governed both
>>>> as the capital of Israel and an important religious and
>>>> political center for Arabs, Christians, and Jews.
>>>>
>>>> 7. I would keep in relation to 6, the ultra-orthodox out of all
>>>> of this; their reasoning tends towards catastrophe, and, like
>>>> Netanyahu, they have no interest in anything other, I think,
>>>> than total annihilation of the Arabs. The same would hold for
>>>> any other religion as well. I'd argue for the UN to control
>>>> the temple mount, wailing wall, etc.
>>>>
>>>> 8. A great deal of all of this should center on the Jordan River
>>>> which has been known for a long time to be in a contention
>>>> that's damaging to everyone - instead there should be an
>>>> international agency composed of all the countries involved,
>>>> to find the best way to employ the water for agriculture and
>>>> so forth. Likewise Israeli desalinization plants should be
>>>> open to all. Articles I've read have indicated that this
>>>> might well be sustainable.
>>>>
>>>> 9. Cross-cultural education should be offered to all and perhaps
>>>> made mandatory; there are too many misrecognitions among
>>>> peoples that are resulting in the growths of hatreds.
>>>> Face-to-face peaceful encounters should be instituted;
>>>> there's already m

[NetBehaviour] Red and Blue variations

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

(yes, this is long, it is background and background repeated w/
different filtering, probably my most interesting playing on the
terz, also still trying to keep my head above water (including
what's left of my/our body)) -


Red and Blue variations

https://youtu.be/sdED9ARujDk video

~~ the piece repeats, lower filtering, higher filtering, I
prefer the lower to be sure, both may be played of course with a
kind of continuity, or with continuity, mostly sparse, but
working with silence, intervals, intensities, thinking through
Wittgenstein's On Certainty, for if speech harbors philosophy as
it surely does, so does this soundwork, this music, this
improvisation, this thinking over generationsand memories, not
necessarily of music itself, but of environments, envelopes,
landscapes with great distances and either dawn or dusk and
either rain or thunderstorm, tornado or hurrican, one or
another, melding, in other sounds. This is for long listening,
careful hearing or none at all, if you prefer the higher
frequencies then the second blue would be fore you; the lower,
which is mine, the first red, or the two together as background
or foreground, an hour, the exact piece with different filters,
oh, so subtle, different halls to be played within, for me, and
what does that matter, not at all, this is a formative piece,
something I've thought about for a great long time, wondering if
it would be possible, then it more or less appeared as a
possibilitiey, in melded sections, the spaces opening for me the
possibility of no-sound as primary, thinking of Dogen and the
moon, typing yet again with eyes shut, the hhum of the computer
cooler as it processes the sound and image, and then with
Wittgenstein, considering the interval, and what might occur at
the begining or ending if there are such, how the world divides
if it does, atmospheric resonances of sound, light, air,
chemistries, patterns of thinking, offering sentences, refining
or withdrawing them, displacing the phrases, always what is
exact when the words are placed in the page, the sounds are
placed in the air, not placed really, as if they were, they
were, always there, always almost columnar supporting
themslevss, that is not columnar at all, support from no
directionm, support from every direction, frm the manifold of
directions, itnerrieorities and exteriorities indistiinct, the
fingers now faltering on the keyboard, working through the
middle of the night careful delineationsm,, waves, as if there
were meanings and linkages of meanings: all words are sound, all
notes are words: all intervals are barriers and always already
open; all doors are intervalsd, always and already intervals;
one never tells one from the other, the other from the one -
circulations of imaginary numbers - one is always breathing one
might presume, the breathing of the water, inflow and outflow,
sentences ruptured by the presence of verbs and nouns,
adjectives and adverbs, always forgotten paving the way, some
water, slow insistence on through ~~~

~~~ 1917 Martin Terz guitar ~~~


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[NetBehaviour] Electronic Literature 2012

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Electronic Literature 2012

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ECO Communique: What is Electronic Literature
ECO Communique: What is Electronic Literature

1. The ECO asks: What is literature? Literature is already a
   matter of the archive, expanding genres, mutable canons.
   Literature is neither necessarily intended nor produced by
   particular species. Literature is either a moment of
   speculation which has been released, or a curtailment of
   loose and fluent ontologies. The epistemology of literature
   has traditionally been the diegetic, the gaze, not the
   glance. Literature perseveres now within the glance.

2. Organisms are electronic, quantum; the digital is slurry;
   inscription is always interactive. Games are literature and
   electronic, films are literature and electronic,
   intentionality entangles with literature when and where
   inscription is. Inscription and culture are entangled;
   culture and literature are entangled.

3. The label of literature is useless because it's extended to
   the breaking-point; the extension attempts conformal mappings
   from past to future. The label of electronic is useless
   because it's immanent; virtual particles fall under the aegis
   of electronic literature, even if uncharged. Just as the
   Higgs field draws out mass, inscription draws out the
   categoric and literature dies and exists on local terrains,
   drawing out the _field_ of literature. To inscribe is to
   augment and divide; to inscribe is to simultaneously negate
   and assert.

4. Any definition falls by the wayside as fast-forward culture
   clutters the imaginary with manifestos and definitions as so
   many uncanny ghosts. The real question (if questions,
   suspensions, are real in the sense that the answer is
   captured prey) is how to observe, absorb, without limitation
   and with a situational criticality that offers, as if
   Vaihinger's as-if, meandering with expectation under erasure.

5. Beyond literature and electronics, there are bodies. Beneath
   literature and electronics, there are bodies. Above
   literature and electronics, there are bodies. Most of the
   bodies are dead, most of the archives are vacant, most of the
   caretakers have disappeared, most of the inscriptions have
   never been read, most of the literature will never have been
   read.

6. The ECO states: The electronic literature of slime molds, of
   dinosaurs, of hemiptera, of prions; the electronic literature
   of cuttlefish, of starlings, of bacteriophages; the
   electronic literature of DNA, RNA, cellular processes.

7. At the limit, the analogic body is digital; at the limit, the
   digital body is analogic. At the limit, the electronic body
   is abject; at the limit, the abject body is electronic. At
   the limit, inscription _may be_ a gathering; at the limit, a
   gathering _may be_ inscription.

8. The ECO insists: A literature without limits is a literature,
   not degree zero, but degree infinite. What is _not_
   literature is already circumscribed, prescribed, a writing.
   Fast-forward culture: what is _not_ literature, _is,_ and
   what _is_ literature, _is not._

9. Special America is electronic literature, arduino is
   electronic literature, choreography is electronic literature,
   the body is electronic literature, makerbot is electronic
   literature; sex is electronic literature. Fastforward IRC,
   Fidonet, BBS, and newsgroups are literature; should they be
   archived?. Should the archive be archived? Should _a
   literature_ be _the literature_ be preserved? Does _a
   literature_ exist? Does literature?

10. THE ECO RECOGNIZES THE CRISIS.

11. Within the ECO - Electro-Cultural Organization, the Crisis
is central. The Crisis is the literature of the
becoming-extinguished, of the extinct, of information glut
and universal controlled-transparency; of the tyranny of
Fundamental Corporations: Google, Facebook, Apple, [...] of
the tyranny of colonialism and neocolonialism; of the
tyranny of the One Percent: of the Drifting Tyranny we
confront on a daily basis. The ECO is the shadow
organization of the ELO and is political to the core. The
ECO acts ON Literature and THROUGH the Electronic. The ECO
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[NetBehaviour] Typing Unsighted, Training Untraining: Example and Theory

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(since I tripped a couple of days ago over a curb, testing post-
covid typing, memory, haptic technology, my mind/fulness), theory)

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From Where


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"Where are you from," fifteen asked fifteen, standing face to
face, circulating, taking turns, manumission, as if there were
only, each answering the other as if the narrative drove the
sound of the typing on the mechanical keyboard in the front of
the office where I sat, eyues closed, recording each and every
moment that occurre,d wheil none of on==us, none of us , knew
what was actually occurring beneath the ground or in the back
rooms of the complex whichwere something of a university
structure, although for whome or for what was never to be found
u=out as we noticed the ceiling was clowly descending, and we
thought, oh that kind of a narrative, but then it ascended
again, just as slowly,, back to the level or place that it had
started from, the original height in other words, and we= were
confused and perplexed, what could have been occuring that this
event was allowed to happen, particularly as it existed solely
as something typed, a series of symbols, within whcih=which
we all agreed to participate, as if this would pay for room and
board within the text or at least a meal down the street where
there were no ceilings under an all too brilliant blue sky that
contained among other things several birds, a plane, a
helicopter, and an increasingly sullen sun as the clouds begn to
move in, covering up what desperate deeds and despairing
thoughts anyone might have had on either said of the bulwarks
which cast e=heavy shadows so that everyone was hidden well
within the outlines of the four story building in the backgroun
=d that contained recordds of, ,shoudl==ld I say, this story,
but this isn't that kind of postmodernism in fact, not even a
postmodern style, but a ture account of what was actually
occurring that day of May 125, perhaps on a Thursday, 1/5 the
chance, in 1735, within and without we were hurried along to see
one of the early steam locomotives that were destined to carry
the frontier of the true West northward, into the providence,
not yeat formed we can only assumed, of Metricuous, Canada, rfd.

Second Part - The Revelation

yes, and this is later in the day and this is how it all began,
just sitting here typing with my eyes closed, wondering if and
when I'll lose track of the singular sentence that embraces me
as I continue unsighted down the page, focusing on nothing again
because if for an instant I stop and think, yes this is what I
am doing, the error will appear, as consciousness splits at that
point rather unevenly I might say and then I would have to start
over, something I don't want to do, writing becoming more
automatic now, I'm thiniking of the words, not their
presentation, their spelling, and so forth, but just the flow,
focusing almost zen-like, not on languge at all, not aopn
language itself, butt on emptiness - and I never thought of that
before this - that language can be created through emptiness
=m=, not the usual way of thiniking about it, as if reading and
writing and speaking dominated the mind - I know for sure now it
doesn't and hwhen an error appears, that's were language
actually appears in this act - in the presence of error, because
otherwise language remains in remission, a revelationn  and
perhaps I said that before - you see for a second I stopped
there and noticed that more errors came to the foreground
precisely be cause I was focusing oon the typing, not on the
emptiness that I need to complete this, and this is the opposite
of the way language is usually conceived, here the grammar is
flowing and I'm not, or in a sdense elsewhere, within
consciouenss, not the unconscious is a language, none of that
stuff, but an unconscious that is really devoid, I think of
water, in the sense of a pond, noot even a river or stream which
would imply flow - there is no flow in imminence! and with that
punctuation I should be able to complete this sentencee which is
literally literature revealing itself to me in a different form
than I had ever thought possible, thank you for this
opportunity.


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Palestine Israel Suite

https://youtu.be/Qcw2D4WruFA video/music

solo sarangi, stop the massacres



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Re: [NetBehaviour] Thoughts on Israel/Palestine

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if only if only cease fire. i HATE Net* for his bigotry, misplaced sense 
of war and retaliation; he brings shame to every Jewish person I know as 
if we're held responsible. and I would be held as such if I could and stop 
immediately everything and - and this could go on and on and on. we are 
NOT doing well here as you may know, with my highschool friend the recent 
victim of a mass murderer (her grandson), and another friend hospitalized 
after a severe bicycle accident, not to mention the usual mayhem in Prov. 
which is on the increase, along with anti-semitic incidents. it makes it 
hard to get up in the morning. Netanyahoo has set the whole planet back 
decades... i'll play sarangi this evening...


On Mon, 6 Nov 2023, Suzon Fuks via NetBehaviour wrote:


Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2023 23:43:58 +1000
From: Suzon Fuks via NetBehaviour 
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

Cc: Suzon Fuks 
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Thoughts on Israel/Palestine

pfe, a bit of hope is necessary! Thanks Alan, thanks for your response
Greta!
We can hope that from chaos comes a kind of order...

First, cease fire!
Then, simultaneously, negotiations for a two-state solution AND put
resources together to save wounded people (Israeli hospitals and
international aids).
I like the idea of sharing the desalination plants to make water available
in the region! water is essential too! Mandatory cross-cultural education:
yes!

Apart from riots and putsch, how will Netanyahu, Israeli extremists and
Hamas be bypassed/removed??  

Any tricks on how to stop hate quickly? How to stop anger quickly?
I remembered being in Israel just after the 1967
war, playing with children in the street. Most of
them were so full of hate at that time against
Nasser, Egypt president. I, coming from Belgium,
could not understand their strong feelings and
was so shocked by their behaviour. Since then, the
movement of Shalom Archav / Peace Now has developed
and a large percentage of the country wants peace.

Hate and anger make people deaf, if people could quieten down and listen.
How?


Suzon
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ASSEMBLE - installation performance - Prague National Gallery for
PQ2023 with the support of ASEKOL for lending e-waste
https://suzonfuks.net/assemble-pq2023/
ARCHEO-GALAXY installation included in the closing event of the Magdalena
Montpellier Festival https://suzonfuks.net/archeo-galaxy/
VOICES OF HAKKA WOMEN - Finalist of Her Vision Film Festival, Toronto's
Asian Feedback Film Festival, Women's International Film Festival and
Special Mention from Asia South East Short Film Festival -
trailer https://youtu.be/ZAQYmRFaskM

I acknowledge the country, culture and traditional custodians of the land
upon which I walk, work and live, the Turrbal and Jagera peoples.
It takes 12000 litres of water to make 500 grams of chocolate! 

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Thoughts on Israel/Palestine

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

I agree, our states of mind aren't great at the moment, too many other 
local tragedies...


On Mon, 6 Nov 2023, Gretta Louw via NetBehaviour wrote:


Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2023 11:00:11 +0100
From: Gretta Louw via NetBehaviour 
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

Cc: Gretta Louw 
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Thoughts on Israel/Palestine

This is a great list Alan. We must hold space for imagining paths to peace
and coexistence no matter how fictitious they might currently seem.





  On 6. Nov 2023, at 09:48, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
   wrote:


(apologies for so much posting recently, cutting back)


Thoughts on Israel/Palestine

0. Like everyone else, I've been ruminating more or less in
  despair at the situation in Israel/Palestine. Until my mother
  died, she was active in the Hadassah women's organization,
  and made many trips to the Mid-East and Europe, working on
  peace processes; I have many of her documents and some of her
  talks here. In any case, thinking about the situation,
  however naive I might be -

1. A two-state solution is absolutely necessary; nations need
  self-governance all the way around. There's no reason that
  the West Bank and Gaza cannot be united through physical and
  eletronic internetworking that would be able to respond
  quickly to crisis.

2. Israel must pull out of Gaza; what started as defense and
  retribution has turned into a massacre on the order of
  Dresden or the Warsaw ghetto. Beyond the politics there's an
  outdated issue of saving face which is increasingly deadly.

3. I believe that Israel still has nuclear weapons, and these
  should be off the table completely. A war of any sort in
  these small areas can escalate into annihilation: to the
  limit as I once wrote.

4. The hospital systems of Gaza and Israel should connect and
  the wounded of all parties should be able to receive
  immediate treatment.

5. Talks should begin on all of this, sidelining Netanyahu and
  Hamas; there should be no room for absolutism.

6. Jerusalem, in parts, should be an international city; there
  are a number of religions which are somewhat central there,
  and there should be no competition. It would be governed both
  as the capital of Israel and an important religious and
  political center for Arabs, Christians, and Jews.

7. I would keep in relation to 6, the ultra-orthodox out of all
  of this; their reasoning tends towards catastrophe, and, like
  Netanyahu, they have no interest in anything other, I think,
  than total annihilation of the Arabs. The same would hold for
  any other religion as well. I'd argue for the UN to control
  the temple mount, wailing wall, etc.

8. A great deal of all of this should center on the Jordan River
  which has been known for a long time to be in a contention
  that's damaging to everyone - instead there should be an
  international agency composed of all the countries involved,
  to find the best way to employ the water for agriculture and
  so forth. Likewise Israeli desalinization plants should be
  open to all. Articles I've read have indicated that this
  might well be sustainable.

9. Cross-cultural education should be offered to all and perhaps
  made mandatory; there are too many misrecognitions among
  peoples that are resulting in the growths of hatreds.
  Face-to-face peaceful encounters should be instituted;
  there's already much too much false information online on
  both side to result in anything other than a sense of
  absolute warfare and enemies.

10. In terms of #2, the pull-out should be an immediate priority
   and Israeli hospitals and other institutions should be open
   to receiving the wounded. In other words, there must be
   immediate steps taken, above all, to at least hint of a
   periphery of reconciliation and cooperation; the land-mass
   is too rugged, too alienating itself for anyone to prosper
   without cooperation.

11. Obviously there should be term limits on Israeli leaders;
   Netanyahu, who of course is corrupt, is going the way of all
   strong-men, caressing the state, consolidating power,
   ensuring his continuous re-election, and working with a
   vengeful and underlying militarism that affects everything.
   The fact that he listens to no one but himself in this
   catastrophe - which he is now both creating and continuing -
   indicates he has no desire for a peace process. I'm reminded
   of Pogo, "We have met the enemy and he is us" - and this is
   absolutely true in this situation, with perhaps the worst
   collateral damage the world has seen since World War II;
   again Dresden comes to mind.

12. There should be any number of "temporary" withdrawals on the
   Israeli side, to see if Hamas could be contained or even
   become part of the peace process. In other words, in order
   to give peace a chance, you need a space for peace, a space
   that would, at least for the moment, refuse recrimination in
   the inter

[NetBehaviour] Thoughts on Israel/Palestine

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

(apologies for so much posting recently, cutting back)


Thoughts on Israel/Palestine

0. Like everyone else, I've been ruminating more or less in
   despair at the situation in Israel/Palestine. Until my mother
   died, she was active in the Hadassah women's organization,
   and made many trips to the Mid-East and Europe, working on
   peace processes; I have many of her documents and some of her
   talks here. In any case, thinking about the situation,
   however naive I might be -

1. A two-state solution is absolutely necessary; nations need
   self-governance all the way around. There's no reason that
   the West Bank and Gaza cannot be united through physical and
   eletronic internetworking that would be able to respond
   quickly to crisis.

2. Israel must pull out of Gaza; what started as defense and
   retribution has turned into a massacre on the order of
   Dresden or the Warsaw ghetto. Beyond the politics there's an
   outdated issue of saving face which is increasingly deadly.

3. I believe that Israel still has nuclear weapons, and these
   should be off the table completely. A war of any sort in
   these small areas can escalate into annihilation: to the
   limit as I once wrote.

4. The hospital systems of Gaza and Israel should connect and
   the wounded of all parties should be able to receive
   immediate treatment.

5. Talks should begin on all of this, sidelining Netanyahu and
   Hamas; there should be no room for absolutism.

6. Jerusalem, in parts, should be an international city; there
   are a number of religions which are somewhat central there,
   and there should be no competition. It would be governed both
   as the capital of Israel and an important religious and
   political center for Arabs, Christians, and Jews.

7. I would keep in relation to 6, the ultra-orthodox out of all
   of this; their reasoning tends towards catastrophe, and, like
   Netanyahu, they have no interest in anything other, I think,
   than total annihilation of the Arabs. The same would hold for
   any other religion as well. I'd argue for the UN to control
   the temple mount, wailing wall, etc.

8. A great deal of all of this should center on the Jordan River
   which has been known for a long time to be in a contention
   that's damaging to everyone - instead there should be an
   international agency composed of all the countries involved,
   to find the best way to employ the water for agriculture and
   so forth. Likewise Israeli desalinization plants should be
   open to all. Articles I've read have indicated that this
   might well be sustainable.

9. Cross-cultural education should be offered to all and perhaps
   made mandatory; there are too many misrecognitions among
   peoples that are resulting in the growths of hatreds.
   Face-to-face peaceful encounters should be instituted;
   there's already much too much false information online on
   both side to result in anything other than a sense of
   absolute warfare and enemies.

10. In terms of #2, the pull-out should be an immediate priority
and Israeli hospitals and other institutions should be open
to receiving the wounded. In other words, there must be
immediate steps taken, above all, to at least hint of a
periphery of reconciliation and cooperation; the land-mass
is too rugged, too alienating itself for anyone to prosper
without cooperation.

11. Obviously there should be term limits on Israeli leaders;
Netanyahu, who of course is corrupt, is going the way of all
strong-men, caressing the state, consolidating power,
ensuring his continuous re-election, and working with a
vengeful and underlying militarism that affects everything.
The fact that he listens to no one but himself in this
catastrophe - which he is now both creating and continuing -
indicates he has no desire for a peace process. I'm reminded
of Pogo, "We have met the enemy and he is us" - and this is
absolutely true in this situation, with perhaps the worst
collateral damage the world has seen since World War II;
again Dresden comes to mind.

12. There should be any number of "temporary" withdrawals on the
Israeli side, to see if Hamas could be contained or even
become part of the peace process. In other words, in order
to give peace a chance, you need a space for peace, a space
that would, at least for the moment, refuse recrimination in
the interests of the families and cultural institutions
caught up in the middle of all of this. (Remember John and
Yoko's bed.)

13. I wonder if lessons might not be derived from Hiroshima in
particular, a cultural backing-away, finding other paths to
process what is happening and what has happened. I remember
the long tradition of the Jewish Left in America, saw it
work out, at least for a while, in New York city, and
whether one might draw on that as well. We're on the brink
of inconceivable horror, even worse than 

[NetBehaviour] Listings, some forgotten, from a long list disovered online

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Listings, some forgotten, from a long list disovered online
- reviews etc. I feel I work either as a nuisance or as submerged,
every so often I find these remnants - forget the source -

https://www.wired.com/2008/11/all-the-alan-so/
- Bruce Sterling, Wired

https://soundcloud.com/user-23300991/alan-sondheim-short-wave-anomalous-recordings-1991-excerpt9673-excerpt
- Cor Ardens, Soundcloud

https://books.google.com/books?id=UDi81QcqNFYC=PA1260=PA1260=Alan+Sondheim=bl=uGp2fwq7Ir=ACfU3U2oBSjHuROtrprUGtZaUFSXGQ4uFQ=en=X=2ahUKEwjL0uSe_eWBAxX-lYkEHSLyBZ44eBDoAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage=Alan%20Sondheim=false
- Re: The Ash Land - Google Books ?

https://www.gamescenes.org/2010/05/art-in-virtual-worlds-yoshikazes-upintheair-2010.html
- GAMESCENES, Art in Virtual Worlds: Alan Sondheim's "Birthship" (2010)

https://dvblog.org/?p=10676
DVblog - Alan Sondheim - Last Wine

https://glia.ca/conu/digitalPoetics/prehistoric-blog/2008/08/27/1971-alan-sondheims-4320/
David Jhave JohnstonDigital Poetics Prehistoric - 1971: Alan Sondheim's
"4320"

https://wavefarm.org/wf/archive/11vfg0
Wave Farm | Poet Ray'd Yo: Alan Sondheim with Azure Carter

https://gapplegatemusicreview.blogspot.com/2017/09/alan-sondheim-azure-carter-luke.html?m=1
Gapplegate Music Review - Alan Sondheim, Azure Carter, Luke Damrosch,
Threnody, Shorter Discourses of the Buddha (Public Eyesore)

https://samplereality.com/gmu/digital/2012/10/08/alan-sondheims-internet-text-an-effective-example-of-a-new-media-database/
Alan Sondheims Internet Text: An Effective Example of a New Media Database

https://whitecolumns.org/exhibitions/video-installations-alan-sondheim-and-mike-metz/
Alan Sondheim and Mike Metz _Video Installations,_ 112 Greene St.,
7/9/1971

https://spawnofthesurreal.blogspot.com/2008/11/alan-sondheim-accidental-artist.html?m=1
Alan Sondheim, the Accidental Artist

https://digitalcommons.risd.edu/visitingartists/2/
Alan Sondheim: "Post-Conceptual Art"; Alan Sondheim: "Recent work"
by Robert Horvitz

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-137-08751-5_3
Alan Sondheim's Internet Diaspora, Maria Damon, in Diasporic Avant-Gardes

https://oldtimemusic.com/the-list-of-alan-sondheim-albums-in-order/
The List of Alan Sondheim Albums in Order
Last Updated on September 10, 2023 / By Joseph L. Hollen
(not complete but great)

https://openart.ai/discovery/sd-1007076624602243102
Kathy Acker and Alan Sondheim sitting on a sofa in front of a office metal
shutter. In front of them a table with blue video tapes Model: Stable
Diffusion Width: 768Height: 1024 Seed: 4244808532
(why?)

https://www.slugmag.com/music/national-music-reviews/azure-carter-alan-sondheim-avatar-woman/
Review: Azure Carter & Alan Sondheim  Avatar Woman
By Stakerized November 6, 2014

https://www.allaboutjazz.com/ritual-all-7-70-alan-sondheim-esp-disk-review-by-raul-dgama-rose
Album Review Alan Sondheim: Ritual-All-7-70 Raul d'Gama Rose By Raul
d'Gama Rose March 14, 2009 Sign in to view read count

https://disasteramnesiac.blogspot.com/2014/04/azure-carter-alan-sondheim-avater-woman.html?m=1
disaster amnesiac, Wednesday, April 2, 2014 Azure Carter & Alan
Sondheim-Avatar Woman; Public Eyesore, 2014 (Mark Pino, Thank You!)

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It's like this about philosophy and long improvisation

https://youtu.be/xvSIH3Z92XM video (rebab/guitar)

Here it's like this . I woke at 5:00 AM in the morning and it's 
now 6 and I began to think about again their philosophy of long 
form musical structures that I've been working with and thinking 
of these long form musical structures as philosophy in 
themselves . So when this happened woke up I got out of bed I 
came out of here into the computer area and I started dictating 
and typing simultaneously to gather my thoughts on this. I'm not 
sure what I'm doing is music in the ordinary sense and it's 
certainly not philosophy in the ordinary sense. So I was going 
through this found the typing error went back corrected the 
error and by accident or deliberate forgetting erased most of 
what I have been saying and writing . So right here this perhaps 
is better these are fragments . Because i've been thinking 
that's the long form that I've been using in a lot of the recent 
pieces accompanied by video in fact is not music in the ordinary 
sense of the word but perhaps an attempt create a space a kind 
of space , a space for philosophy that is not necessarily 
(written, spoken, musical) language. The point for me is in 
these long forms it's not the content, scales, etc. that's 
critical, but almost something subterranean.

... if they're describing a phenomenology of the world but in 
fact are turning in upon themselves to create an experience for 
the listener or the reader . It's a way of thinking that isn't 
really musical at all and on the other hand it's not concept 
driven . It involves a backwater that is remembering what has 
come before just as one might when writing a paragraph or 
speaking as I am now . But it also involves lateral movement

... doing these long forms in music that they're not music in in 
the ordinary sense of the word in fact they are music only to 
the extent that they are somewhat organized sound that gestures 
towards musical form, but I think as well that they're carrying 
somatic, ideational, referential, and conceptual-philosophical 
content as well. I certainly am pretentious and in the regard of 
the above, most likely wrong, if not delusional. But this 
approach enables me to think in an other way, much like 
relevance theory (Schutz) might move towards the object after 
considered appearance, described after the fact.

... meanwhile slept on that and we were woken very early morning 
w/ the fire alarm, not a test but something went wrong and we 
were all huddled outside in an emergency state of mind for a 
while and found out nothing was happening, perhaps also a 
metaphor for whatever I think I'm doing which perhaps isn't much 
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