[Nighthawk Lovers] learning curve questions

2011-05-13 Thread Andrew Watters
I wrote my first post a few months back about my 95 750 cutting out at 115 mph and now I have some more specific questions. Since my first post I have changed the oil, drained breather tube a few times, put on new front brake pads, bled and re-filled disc brake fluid, constantly cleaning and

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] learning curve questions

2011-05-13 Thread Allen Thomas
I'll try to answer you're questions: 1. Clean the drum brake. Brake dust tends to stay in the drum and it can bind up the pivot point, this exact thing happened to Javier. 2. Guessing an exhaust leak. The only way to know what it is requires listening to it with a stethoscope to pinpoint where

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1993 NH 750 mpg

2011-05-13 Thread mod
She is bone stock with the exception of a home made trailer hitch and Givi 3 hard bags. I tour extensively with the bike avoiding interstate driving.Secondary highways and slow 55mph driving will yield great mpg on the 750. On May 12, 8:20 pm, vadik selo uaby...@gmail.com wrote: do you have mods

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1993 NH 750 mpg

2011-05-13 Thread Jeremy Kindy
+1 It's NOT a good feeling to have the engine sputter and die while on a 45mph divided road at night in traffic and not have practiced that. That was also the first time I had to switch to reserve and I wasn't aware how the engine would react (it was also at ~135 miles into the tank and I wasn't

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1993 NH 750 mpg

2011-05-13 Thread Kyle Munz
I always start looking for a gas station around 100miles just to play it safe. Paul's right, becoming familiar with the petcock while riding is good advice. Not just for switching to reserve, but for turning the gas ON. Yes, the bike will start with the selector in OFF. It'll run off of the fuel

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: What to do when the traffic light doesn't change

2011-05-13 Thread Max
Thanks very much. You know, I hadn't intended to get out of my MSF course and ride right away, I thought I should practice a bit more, but after riding around the block about 20 times, I realized that I wasn't going to get anywhere unless I actually practiced riding in traffic. That every night

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!!

2011-05-13 Thread Max
This group is so awesome - you all are so friendly and so helpful. I was on a forum for the Honda Metropolitan, in hopes that I could learn things about my scoot; how to perform regular maintenance and the like, and wow, it was the most unfriendly forum, ever. Occasionally I would get a pleasant

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: RPM's and cruising (or shifting) speed

2011-05-13 Thread Max
Thanks everyone for your responses. I've been listening to the bike and trying what you all suggested, which is to shift a little early, or earlier than I had been, and the ride is definitely a bit smoother. Also, I received my manual in the mail, and there is this page that sort of suggests at

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawl 250 Handlebars question

2011-05-13 Thread Max
I bought a 1995 NH 250 for a great price too - sold my scooter for $1200 and bought the NH for $1300 with only 2,700 miles, so it was great not having to spend too much. The guy who sold it to me had it for about a year, and he'd bought it from one of our local MSF schools - needless to say, it

[Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 550 Nighthawk

2011-05-13 Thread Joe S.
Hey all- I'm new to the group, glad to be here! I'm looking for some outside opinion regarding a 550 I'm looking into buying for a project. The 550 in question only has 3,200 original miles and is in near mint condition for $350, the only problem is the engine has a knocking noise while idle. I

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: RPM's and cruising (or shifting) speed

2011-05-13 Thread Kyle Munz
If it's a light that I know is a long one I'll pop it in neutral, otherwise I'll just hold the clutch. One word of warning though, sometimes that neutral light with LIE TO YOU. Always assume it's in 1st or 2nd and let off the clutch slowly just in case. -Kyle On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:21 AM,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 550 Nighthawk

2011-05-13 Thread Graham Rogers
If you don't want it I'll buy it! It's worth $350 in parts. You'll have to be more specific about the knocking . Is it a soft knock or loud, does it immediately go away above idle or gradually go away? If you hold the revs at say 2000 rpm do you hear the same sound? How about at 2500

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: RPM's and cruising (or shifting) speed

2011-05-13 Thread Allen Thomas
It doesn't matter if you hold in the clutch or put it in neutral, either bike or car. I typically hold the clutch in unless my hand is getting tired or it is a long light. A note on shifting, what you want to do is match the engine speed to what it will turn once the clutch is engaged. I'm sure

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: RPM's and cruising (or shifting) speed

2011-05-13 Thread hanghank
As a further check, assume it’s in gear, and hold the front brake lever firmly in as you release the clutch. At idle, it will simply kill the engine and no harm done. (Ask me how I know that! And how I learned it was a good idea!) My dad was an OTR truck driver, and a farmer, and there was

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 550 Nighthawk

2011-05-13 Thread Allen Thomas
In my experience valve issues make ticking sounds, wrist pins make a double claking noise, lower rod bearings make a knock. Use a stethoscope or a wooden dowl pressed to you're head just above the ear to determine location of the noise. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message-

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: RPM's and cruising (or shifting) speed

2011-05-13 Thread Allen Thomas
+1 that has got me before too. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 10:07:23 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re:

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1993 NH 750 mpg

2011-05-13 Thread Rense
Just yesterday I had to switch to reserve for the first time on my '92 750 (haven't owned the bike for that long) at 125 miles or so. Judging from the replies above, that seems like a low number, but I mostly commute with a lot of stopping and starting. On May 13, 6:59 am, Kyle Munz

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!!

2011-05-13 Thread Stefano Ascari
Hey yea. I'm really thankful for having found this group. First motorcycle came with a lot of anxiety and worries and you guys definitely played a big part in putting my fears to rest! Cheers! Stefano -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1993 NH 750 mpg

2011-05-13 Thread Kurt Nolte
Lots of starting and stopping would do it. Kurt On May 13, 2011 12:27 PM, Rense rensecor...@gmail.com wrote: Just yesterday I had to switch to reserve for the first time on my '92 750 (haven't owned the bike for that long) at 125 miles or so. Judging from the replies above, that seems like a

[Nighthawk Lovers] CB650SC in a 700Sframe

2011-05-13 Thread Graham Rogers
Hey guys, a guy (Wayne) just called me in response for my $25 CB650SC engine and frame I have advertised. He has a 700S with a spun bearing by the sounds of it. He is wondering whether the CB650SC (83-85) motor will fit in a 700S frame. Anyone out there tried that or anyone have a 700S

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawl 250 Handlebars question

2011-05-13 Thread jmcgill
I'm glad the bike has some good recommenders. It is mainly for my wife who is learning to ride...mine also came from an MSF class. The owner was out of town, and somebody backed into it, bending the handlebar, denting the tank, breaking a signal, and messing up the right footpeg. Thankfully

[Nighthawk Lovers] We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread Joey Kelley
All, With a few recent comments on this groups members - I thought I would throw my own comment into the mix. We have a GREAT group of people here - across all age ranges, experienced riders, beginners, those that wrench on their own rides, those that haul them to bike shops. We've

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] CB650SC in a 700Sframe

2011-05-13 Thread Allen Thomas
I'd bet that it would fit with some fabricated mounting plates. The GS guys use kat and GSXR engines. And I've seen all manor of car engines installed in other manufacturers cars by some guys I used to know that loved to morph cars. They had a Cadillac De Ville pickup truck and a Desoto/El

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawl 250 Handlebars question

2011-05-13 Thread Allen Thomas
Not surprising you can't find them on Ebay, it is a learning bike. ;-) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: jmcgill jmcgil...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 10:37:18 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread Allen Thomas
+1 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:43:54 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] We've got a great

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread Lie Njie
We have a GREAT group of people here - across all age ranges, experienced riders, beginners, those that wrench on their own rides, those that haul them to bike shops. +1 I'm amazed at how incredibly useful this site is. I search the 'net, fail to find what I need, email this list,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread Joey Kelley
Lie, Invite them to the group! Current Nighthawk ownership is not required (Out of Myself, Kyle and Paul only Kyle has an operable Nighthawk - Mines still down pending money) Just an interest in Nighthawks is required. -Joey On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Lie Njie

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: RPM's and cruising (or shifting) speed

2011-05-13 Thread Kurt Nolte
Yes, it will. Bad enough that you have to worry about everyone else out to kill you, sometimes your own bike is trying to do it too! On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: If it's a light that I know is a long one I'll pop it in neutral, otherwise I'll just hold

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 550 Nighthawk

2011-05-13 Thread Kurt Nolte
+1 to each of the above. Use the dowel method (or my favorite, a monster screwdriver that you put the bit-end to the engine and that nice hard plastic rounded handle against your ear, blocks out other sounds and really clarifies the noises up the shaft) to figure out a ballpark location for the

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread Christina Mays
That is really sweet of you. I enjoy being a member of the group and not being dismissed because I am older and female! I have learned quite a bit here. This group rocks. Christina On May 13, 2011 10:43 AM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote: All, With a few recent comments on this groups

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1993 NH 750 mpg

2011-05-13 Thread vadik selo
That is awesome and i like to ride at slow speeds, i tend to enjoy the nature and looking around a lot so slow speeds are good for me. too much wind resistance with 60+ speeds On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, mod n5...@wildblue.net wrote: She is bone stock with the exception of a home made

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread Kyle Munz
She's not as active on the group anymore, but Kim (HotRodMama) would come and personally tan our hides if we dismissed any ladies :) -Kyle On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Christina Mays swanodett...@gmail.comwrote: That is really sweet of you. I enjoy being a member of the group and not

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread Christina Mays
I love her already. :-) On May 13, 2011 2:19 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: She's not as active on the group anymore, but Kim (HotRodMama) would come and personally tan our hides if we dismissed any ladies :) -Kyle On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Christina Mays

[Nighthawk Lovers] 86 700s oil leak

2011-05-13 Thread Dave
my bike has developed an oil leak from what appears to be the back of the starter, its not major, but its noticeable. I was looking at bike bandit to try to find if there is a seal there or something, but I can't seem to find one. Anyone else have this problem and now how to fix it? Also, I

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread greenzero13
I believe nither paul has an operating nighthawk This one dosent have one at all any more I have come to this group with questions about my goldwing, talked cars, geekery, and beer I love this group and would gladly ride with any of you! Sent from my iPod On May 13, 2011, at 5:56

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983 550 Nighthawk

2011-05-13 Thread surfswab
Something else to consider: The 550 was produced for only one model year, so parts will probly not be as readily available as, say, the second gen 750, which was in the Honda lineup, virtually unchanged for 12 model years. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread vfr700blue
I belong to Nighthawk and VFR mail list and I prefer this one as it always seems friendly. People also post a lot on this page about a lot, which is good with me. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: greenzer...@gmail.com Sender:

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 86 700s oil leak

2011-05-13 Thread surfswab
Sounds like it might be weeping oil, which can happen if you've switched to synthetic or are using automotive-type oil containing friction modifiers. Just a thought. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread Graham Rogers
I try to make up for those that don't have a Nighthawk, Graham On May 13, 2011, at 6:50 PM, greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: I believe nither paul has an operating nighthawk This one dosent have one at all any more I have come to this group with questions about my goldwing, talked cars,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 86 700s oil leak

2011-05-13 Thread Allen Thomas
Try re-torqueing the valve cover that might stop that leak since it isn't under oil pressure. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Dave heed...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 15:45:51 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983 550 Nighthawk

2011-05-13 Thread Allen Thomas
If you want the styling of the 80's bikes or a smaller size I'd look for a deal on a 650. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: surfswab surfs...@gmail.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 15:52:48 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread Allen Thomas
Is that VFR a google group too? Can you send a link? I picked up a 2003 VFR800 this spring. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: vfr700b...@yahoo.com Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 22:59:05 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To:

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread Allen Thomas
Lol, and doing a good job at it too! Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 19:11:33 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re:

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: CB650SC in a 700Sframe

2011-05-13 Thread surfswab
My younger brother was one of those morphers. Had a '53 Studebaker with a Caddy engine. I borrowed it one time, when I was home on leave from the Navy, couldn't resist a stop light drag -- and blew the tranny (!) He and his car club buddies collected me, towed it to their club house (an old

[Nighthawk Lovers] More from the 'Pictures or it Didn't happen' Wacky Bike cargo department

2011-05-13 Thread Joey Kelley
Hello All, Check this one out! https://picasaweb.google.com/sandpvrr/PizzaDelivery51311?authkey=Gv1sRgCPu07e7F09zt4gEfeat=directlink Yes - Breadsticks - Wings - Ranch dipping sauce, a 2 liter and a 16 pizza, all on the bike, at the same time. :-) And No - I didn't eat it all!

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] More from the 'Pictures or it Didn't happen' Wacky Bike cargo department

2011-05-13 Thread Kurt Nolte
So how did the Rotella taste? -Kurt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] More from the 'Pictures or it Didn't happen' Wacky Bike cargo department

2011-05-13 Thread Joey Kelley
Little oily - not bad. The Mountain Dew flavor really came through. Bottle did smell a bit I've actually gotten used to Rotella flavoring on food - I traditionally put my takeout in that saddle bag. :-) -Joey On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Nolte

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] More from the 'Pictures or it Didn't happen' Wacky Bike cargo department

2011-05-13 Thread Kurt Nolte
I've actually strapped a 16 pizza and a bag of breadsticks to the cargo rack on my Trek 4100 for the six mile trip home from picking it up. -Kurt On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote: Little oily - not bad. The Mountain Dew flavor really came through.

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] More from the 'Pictures or it Didn't happen' Wacky Bike cargo department

2011-05-13 Thread Kyle Munz
A couple weeks ago I had my backpack and rearseat full of Kohl's bags when I stopped at Popeye's for some chicken. With nowhere else to put the chicken I decided to put it in my lap and run my chinstraps through the handles of the bag. It got a little warm but I made it home without dropping

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] More from the 'Pictures or it Didn't happen' Wacky Bike cargo department

2011-05-13 Thread Joey Kelley
If the rack on the rear hadn't worked - I was going to try balancing it on the gas tank - not sure how well that would have worked. -Joey On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote: A couple weeks ago I had my backpack and rearseat full of Kohl's bags when I

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 86 700s oil leak

2011-05-13 Thread Dave
The valve cover seepage/leak doesn't bother me as much as the leak near the starter, but I'll def try retorqueing the cover to see about that leak, thanks for that suggestion On May 13, 7:13 pm, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Try re-torqueing the valve cover that might stop that leak

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: CB650SC in a 700Sframe

2011-05-13 Thread James O'Gorman
That's an awesome story! On May 13, 2011, at 6:49 PM, surfswab wrote: My younger brother was one of those morphers. Had a '53 Studebaker with a Caddy engine. I borrowed it one time, when I was home on leave from the Navy, couldn't resist a stop light drag -- and blew the tranny (!) He

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] More from the 'Pictures or it Didn't happen' Wacky Bike cargo department

2011-05-13 Thread James O'Gorman
Did you have a hot date that night? That's funny... - James O'Gorman On May 13, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Joey Kelley wrote: Hello All, Check this one out! https://picasaweb.google.com/sandpvrr/PizzaDelivery51311?authkey=Gv1sRgCPu07e7F09zt4gEfeat=directlink Yes - Breadsticks - Wings -

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 86 700s oil leak

2011-05-13 Thread James O'Gorman
My 650 has some of that 'super putty' around where one of the oil lines goes in the back of the engine (between cylinders12). I've never investigated as to whether the banjo bolt, the line, or the block itself is what's cracked, but it does 'weep' oil into the little galley next to the starter.

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] More from the 'Pictures or it Didn't happen' Wacky Bike cargo department

2011-05-13 Thread Joey Kelley
This was actually tonight :-) A friend and I got together - I brought dinner. Hottest part was the wings :-) -Joey On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:05 PM, James O'Gorman aspor...@gmail.com wrote: Did you have a hot date that night? That's funny...  - James O'Gorman On May 13,

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 86 700s oil leak

2011-05-13 Thread Dave
I bought mine a few years ago and it was probably doing it then, I did put auto oil in when i changed the oil last, maybe it broke something loose? .. but at any rate, i noticed it a little last season and now this season as well, it may be the oil lines, i haven't looked into it that far, but I

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread Dale
I joined this group over a year ago while I was in Afghanistan (I had a moto I couldn't ride, and not much to do at night...) I still check the posts every day... I'll be moving to the Spokane area in a month or so... Omaha doesn't have many nighthawks, but I'm hoping Washington does... E On May

[Nighthawk Lovers] Nighthawk

2011-05-13 Thread erich south
I am sorry that on my privious posting offering my Nighthawk for sale that I did not mention that it is a 750 and that it is located in Palm Coast FL Erich -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! group. To post to this group,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: CB650SC in a 700Sframe

2011-05-13 Thread Joey Kelley
I'm just mildly disturbed by the Caddy engine in the Stude - sorry - I'm a Studie Purist :-) On the other hand - the 350 Chevy Dad crammed into the 41 Studebaker he had was REALLY fun :-) -Joey On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:03 PM, James O'Gorman aspor...@gmail.com wrote: That's an

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: CB650SC in a 700Sframe

2011-05-13 Thread Kurt Nolte
Most awesome swap I ever had the pleasure to /drive/ was an 80s Mustang with a twin-turbo diesel V8 shoehorned under the hood. Fully capable of spinning tires in any gear at a standstill: 980 ft-lbs of torque on demand. Deep throated growl with the Valkyrie scream of a pair of vicious twins

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: CB650SC in a 700Sframe

2011-05-13 Thread Joey Kelley
Speaking of unlikely swaps - heres one - believe it or not - thats ME in the picture! http://oldengine.org/members/kelley/fairmont.htm The other one that comes to mind - I saw this in Mass in 2006 - not sure what the original frame was - but its been highly modified:

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: RPM's and cruising (or shifting) speed

2011-05-13 Thread Hawaii Sean
As someone who commutes daily and on a good day gets to drive about 3 miles at highway speed without downshifting - my shifting pattern is different than most. When accelerating in traffic rush hour traffic I shift around 3,000 rpm's. This seems low but I never have a power problem and the ride

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk 750

2011-05-13 Thread Jurisgnostic
May I ask where you got the hard bags? They're very nice. On May 13, 6:53 pm, erich south southeri...@gmail.com wrote: Sadly I am offering to sell my 1993 Nighthawk 750 for sale.  I purchased the bike from origional owner who was 78 years old and could no longer ride,. It has 38,249 miles  on

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread Paul
* On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Graham Rogers graha...@ptd.net wrote: I try to make up for those that don't have a Nighthawk, Graham HAHAHAHA! And you do a great job Graham!* * * *Paul* * * * Paul LeBoutillier http://www.facebook.com/paul.lebout www.hondanighthawks.net * -- You

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: We've got a great group!

2011-05-13 Thread Paul
*Hey Dale, Washington state has TONS of Nighthawks. I check the Craigslist up there regularly and although it's across the State from where you're going to be it's still not that bad of a drive.* * * *Paul* * * * Paul LeBoutillier http://www.facebook.com/paul.lebout * * *

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] More from the 'Pictures or it Didn't happen' Wacky Bike cargo department

2011-05-13 Thread Paul
*I actually strapped my laptop onto my rear rack today and went to the office. And get this...before putting the carrying case for my laptop on the rack, I first put down some bubble wrap to help reduce the shock of bumps going down the road. [?]* * * *Paul* * * * Paul LeBoutillier