[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread Dave S
nah Tim, propa poms Dave On 6/21/2011 3:54 PM, Tim Rolls wrote: Popapoms would be the Australian version then? Tim On 21 Jun 2011, at 14:44, Dave S wrote: Colin, that would be popapoms then, er, hope there are no cheerleaders affronted Dave On 6/21/2011 3:31 PM, cwhill wrote: So popadoms

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread Ian Lawther
Thank you Frances.you had me whistling the Radetzky March while cooking breakfast.I'm probably stuck with it for the day! Ian Francis Wood wrote: On 21 Jun 2011, at 14:54, Tim Rolls wrote: Popapoms would be the Australian version then? Well, which country is this? :

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread Francis Wood
P On 21 Jun 2011, at 15:51, Richard York wrote: Then there's the Beethoven version- poppopaDOM Or this, anyone? Poppadom, Poppadom, Poppadom-pom ? Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread Gibbons, John
Or poppaDOMpompompom POPpadom? -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Francis Wood Sent: 21 June 2011 16:29 To: Richard York Cc: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Deaf/dead P On 21 Jun 2011, at 15:51, Richard York wrote: Then

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread barry07
Quoting richard.hea...@tiscali.co.uk richard.hea...@tiscali.co.uk: Is that the crispy stuff they put in their toblerone's, then? Toblerone's? trombones? - whatever! Who can Tell? Richard The Lone Ranger, of course. Tonto To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread simon
I assume all this food based music will be played on a crumpet or a cornetto --Original Message-- From: Gibbons, John Sender: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu To: 'Francis Wood' To: Richard York Cc: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Deaf/dead Sent: Jun 21, 2011 4:36 PM Or poppaDOMpompompom

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread simon
I assume all this food based music will be played on a crumpet or a cornetto --Original Message-- From: Gibbons, John Sender: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu To: 'Francis Wood' To: Richard York Cc: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Deaf/dead Sent: Jun 21, 2011 4:36 PM Or poppaDOMpompompom

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread Tim Rolls
Served up by Sir Adrian Boulti ? T On 21 Jun 2011, at 16:58, si...@leveau8.fsnet.co.uk wrote: I assume all this food based music will be played on a crumpet or a cornetto --Original Message-- From: Gibbons, John Sender: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu To: 'Francis Wood' To: Richard York

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread Ian Lawther
As I need to make a birthday cake for tomorrow I am likely to be doing some piping. Ian si...@leveau8.fsnet.co.uk wrote: I assume all this food based music will be played on a crumpet or a cornetto --Original Message-- From: Gibbons, John Sender: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu To:

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread barry07
Quoting Richard York rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk: All of which goes to show that it's really, really difficult writing down on paper the precise quality of something which we hear and/or play in such a way that other people can do it. Perhaps Aural Transmission really is the best method.

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread Malcolm Craven
Nice one Barry. I particularly like the idea of 'Stairway to heaven' on a castrated! Lovely vision Malcolm To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread Francis Wood
On 21 Jun 2011, at 23:13, barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote: PS my spellchecker offered as alternatives to 'stratocaster': 'toastmaster' or castrated. Ah! the wonders of a digital age. Don't know about 'toastmaster', but 'castrated' is a proper musical term. In Italian, that is. More seriously,

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-21 Thread Richard York
Meanwhile I'm working on my next piece for the competitions later in the year. I've got as far as Dum poppapoppapoppadum poppa, but can't decide if it should be dum or pop next. Thoughtful and considered artistic advice of a sensitive nature would be most welcome, please.

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
This is something that no other bagpipe can do. In fact it would be difficult to think of another wind instrument capable of silence whilst pressure is applied. At present I can only identify the ocarina. Uilleann pipes, chanter stopped on knee, all fingers down? CB To get on or off this

[NSP] Re: Tradition

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Quite! C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dru Brooke-Taylor Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:07 PM To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Tradition Has it occurred to anyone that once a tradition has started to get self

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Quite, again! C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Richard York Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:51 PM To: Francis Wood; NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Deaf/dead Hello Francis, Quite so, but, playing devil's advocate for a

[NSP] Re: arrogant

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Hear hear, and position has only one s. Adrian of all people talking about bad spelling! You couldn't make it up. C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Julia Say Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 3:13 PM To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu;

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
However, I think we differ over the harpsichord's ability to play 'long-sustained'. I was having this discussion with my wife the other day (she plays keyboards rather better than I can), so I went to the harpsichord and tried it to check. Just like on a piano, if you hold a key down, the

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
Joe Hutton seemed a bit lukewarm about that. Joe didn't exactly play ultrastaccato, did he? C I'd forgotten that remark about the skeletons. Thanks for reminding! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
using all the vocabulary an instrument can offer rather than cutting a bit out because it's heretical. Yes!!! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Richard York
Oh the perils of using a short-hand term carelessly! OK, I shouldn't have called it staccato, I was merely characterising the general sound difference between piano and plucked keyboard instruments to make my point, a dangerous and un-scholarly thing to do :) And all you say is

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher.Birch
OK, I shouldn't have called it staccato, Unfortunately some people do seem to think staccato means short. C -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Francis Wood
On 20 Jun 2011, at 09:34, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote: However, I think we differ over the harpsichord's ability to play 'long-sustained'. I was having this discussion with my wife the other day (she plays keyboards rather better than I can), so I went to the harpsichord

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread barry07
Quoting christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu: OK, I shouldn't have called it staccato, Unfortunately some people do seem to think staccato means short. Chris, May I point you to the Dolmetsch dictionary http://www.dolmetsch.com/defss4.htm Personally, staccato is a word I use for

[NSP] Yesterday's NSP session

2011-06-20 Thread John Dally
We had a great Junuary session yesterday here in the Pacific Northwest. We had two sessions going at one point with G pipes and concertina in one room, and F sets in the other. Although only one or two of the group (not me) can play popping fast runs like Chris, Adrian and Alice,

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-20 Thread Gibbons, John
Barry, stacc. abbreviated form of staccato (Italian: detached, separated) staccare(Italian) to detach, to separate each note The word has its natural meaning, in other words. Stacatissimo is what some people think it means, but it doesn't! John

[NSP] Forbearance please

2011-06-19 Thread Anthony Robb
Here is a link to a video clip (kindly supplied by Pete Ashby) of Alice Emily's controversial playing. It was taken when the band played in support of The Chantry Museum. Certain members may wish to delete this message at this point. The clip is mainly for the benefit of those

[NSP] Re: Tune books with arrangements for other instruments

2011-06-19 Thread Chris Harris
And Matt Seattle has published 3 books called 'Airs for Pairs', 'Airs for Pairs 2', and 'Scottish Airs for Pairs'. I thought they might be out of print, but a quick google suggests they are still available - though maybe not with the original delightful cover art. Chris To get on or off

[NSP] blissfull ignorance

2011-06-19 Thread cwhill
Without wanting to start anything - and not referring back to any particular recent posting ;), I now realise that my total ignorance of the NSP (putting aside the 38 years I've been making noises with them) has been a Godsend as I've been able to listen to the sounds alone in deciding if I

[NSP] Re: Tune books with arrangements for other instruments

2011-06-19 Thread Matt Seattle
These are now published by [1]www.mally.com I should think the majority of the tunes and many of the harmonies would fit NSP On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Chris Harris [2]ch...@harris405.plus.com wrote: And Matt Seattle has published 3 books called 'Airs for Pairs',

[NSP] UP open/closed fingering

2011-06-18 Thread Dave S
Hello, Here is a link to Liam O'Flynn discussing the topic of styles. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQU84O8xZlEfeature=related and for those who follow LBPS and Paul Roberts winning piece this will be doubly of interest I enjoy listening to this musician cresting stories on his pipes --

[NSP] typo

2011-06-18 Thread Dave S
oops --- creating having problems with seing at the moment Dave To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Ending tunes traditionally

2011-06-18 Thread Richard York
There are many tunes, especially slip jigs, and quite a few Peacocks, which as written, end on a note that implies we're about to go back to the beginning and start again, but isn't really in itself an endi- ... Many players stop there on the last time through, and don't play the

[NSP] Re: Ending tunes traditionally

2011-06-18 Thread Matt Seattle
Richard I'm not going to answer your question directly, but draw your attention to the difference in aesthetic between Harmonic Direction and Harmonic Proportion. And rather than elaborate here now, add that I have pondered this long and hard and given the results of my ponderings

[NSP] Re: Ending tunes traditionally

2011-06-18 Thread Anthony Robb
Hello Richard I have to bow to Matt's much greater academic knowledge on this one but I still offer a lesser mortal's thoughts: The old guys I played with were dance driven and would invariably resolve tunes in the manner you describe. As far as my own preference is concerned I

[NSP] Re: Ending tunes traditionally

2011-06-18 Thread Matt Seattle
And, bowing to Anthony's greater experience of kirn suppers, this lesser mortal's thoughts are pretty much the same as his about ending such tunes - dancers expect an ending, listeners can happily sit in the air. Felton Lonnen for ex. would IMO be awful with a 'resolution' on the

[NSP] Tune books with arrangements for other instruments

2011-06-18 Thread Ian Lawther
I know there have been some books published in the past that include tune arrangements for Northumbrian pipes and other instruments though as someone who is normally a solo player I haven't taken much notice..until now. I need to encourage an 11 year old flautist and 12 year old cellist

[NSP] Re: Tune books with arrangements for other instruments

2011-06-18 Thread Dave S
Hi Ian -- I think there are some books by Derek Hobbs on the NSP site cheers Dave S On 6/18/2011 6:59 PM, Ian Lawther wrote: I know there have been some books published in the past that include tune arrangements for Northumbrian pipes and other instruments though as someone who is normally a

[NSP] Re: Tune books with arrangements for other instruments

2011-06-18 Thread Julia Say
On 18 Jun 2011, Ian Lawther wrote: tune arrangements for Northumbrian pipes and other instruments http://www.rossleighmusic.co.uk/ Those who use them seem to think highly of them. Aren't there a couple of LBPS books of such duets etc as well? Hope this helps Julia To get on or off this

[NSP] Re: Ending tunes traditionally

2011-06-18 Thread CalecM
Having done a lot of dancing and playing for dancing, allow me to suggest that the decision might depend on whether or not there are a bunch of sweaty people out there in front of you saying, That didn't sound like the end of the tune. Should I bow/curtsie? Or keep dancing? If

[NSP] Re: Trad.nsp vs Dartmouth

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
a couple of the best plpers are trying to make people understand how to play their instrument properly. No prizes for identifying the following quote: She is a very good teacher, demanding accurate staccato playing. C To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: Billy Pigg

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
I'm risking a lot here I know but who actually decided how the pipes should be played? Good question! C To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
Well said, Anthony! The fact that you can play should be obvious to anyone who doesn't have their ego where their ears should be. C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Robb Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 9:00 AM To:

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
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[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
Bugger! Dartmouth doesn't like rich text. Here's a proper e-mail: __ From: BIRCH Christopher (DGT) Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:15 AM To: 'Dave S'; Inky- Adrian Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu

[NSP] Re: Billy Pigg

2011-06-17 Thread Tim Rolls
On 17 Jun 2011, at 01:13, cwhill wrote: I've often heard it said that Beethoven wouldn't recognise his own works if he were to hear them played now. Well that's because he was deaf... Tim To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
if he were to hear them played now. Well that's because he was deaf... In that case he wouldn't hear them at all, but I reckon being dead is an even greater impediment to hearing them played now. He's been decomposing ever since according to a very old joke. Praps that could

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Dave S
OK OK I see I just got Visa'd ciao On 6/17/2011 10:17 AM, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote: Bugger! Dartmouth doesn't like rich text. Here's a proper e-mail: __ From: BIRCH Christopher (DGT) Sent: Friday, June 17,

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Francis Wood
On 17 Jun 2011, at 09:24, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote: I reckon being dead is an even greater impediment to hearing them played now. Well, if he hadn't been the late Beethoven, how could he have composed the Late Quartets? Francis To get on or off this list see list information

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Matt Seattle
Lotsa fun here - Adrian's inspired '6 classes' made me laugh out loud As for 'tradition', it is a neutral, value-free term, there are good traditions and bad - human sacrifice was traditionally practised in some cultures.. As for 'can you play' - in one sense, of course Anthony can

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Gibbons, John
Is talking good sense traditional? -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Matt Seattle Sent: 17 June 2011 10:49 To: Dartmouth NPS Subject: [NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions Lotsa fun here - Adrian's inspired '6

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread cwhill
Ok, bad choice of composer! He was, however, only deaf in later life. Still good excuse for some bad jokes :) It was a genuine question though. If there is a correct was to play, that must have been decided at sometime by someone. I'm thinking here of the closed fingering techniques, one finger

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Francis Wood
On 17 Jun 2011, at 12:39, cwhill wrote: I'm thinking here of the closed fingering techniques, one finger off at a time, no choyting etc. Hi Colin and others, The closed-fingering technique derives much more from the nature of the instrument rather than any opinions about style. Since the

[NSP] Tradition

2011-06-17 Thread Dru Brooke-Taylor
Has it occurred to anyone that once a tradition has started to get self conscious about it's identity, it's got problems? A tradition that is still fully living as a tradition, is just 'how things are', without needing to ask itself what is traditional and what isn't. It even decides what it

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Richard York
Yes! Richard. On 17/06/2011 10:49, Matt Seattle wrote: Lotsa fun here - Adrian's inspired '6 classes' made me laugh out loud As for 'tradition', it is a neutral, value-free term, there are good traditions and bad - human sacrifice was traditionally practised in some cultures..

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Richard York
Yes! Richard On 17/06/2011 10:49, Matt Seattle wrote: Lotsa fun here - Adrian's inspired '6 classes' made me laugh out loud As for 'tradition', it is a neutral, value-free term, there are good traditions and bad - human sacrifice was traditionally practised in some cultures..

[NSP] Oops

2011-06-17 Thread Richard York
Sorry, Julia, Sorry - I got in late yesterday, read a few, but hadn't seen that you'd already done this one! Richard. The oil of the little known Ont Rhubbledwarterz tree may be suggested. Richard By the way, does anyone have any good ideas about the right kind of oil to

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Richard York
Hello Francis, Quite so, but, playing devil's advocate for a minute, (and loving tradition except where it becomes tribal), does the fact that we can play staccato and 99% of other pipes can't, mean it's all we should do? The harpsichord, after all, could only really play staccato or slightly

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Marianne Hall
it's its. Define. Get's me s'o cross. Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:31:57 +0200 To: christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu CC: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu From: david...@pt.lu Subject: [NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions OK OK I see I just got Visa'd ciao On

[NSP] Re: arrogant

2011-06-17 Thread Julia Say
Adrian - if you wish to insult people, please do so offlist. The rest of us (I hope I can safely generalise here) find it embarrassing. Anyone who wishes to contact me, please do so offlist for a while. Julia To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread chris
Since the NSP chanter has a stopped end, there would be little point in adopting anything other than this fingering style, which allows separate notes with (usually) a distinguishable silence between each. This is something that no other bagpipe can do. In fact it would be difficult to think

[NSP] arrogant

2011-06-17 Thread Inky- Adrian
I was responding to this post. -- Forwarded message -- From: Kyle Eckmann [1]eckmanncustomt...@hotmail.com Date: Jun 17, 2011 1:33 PM Subject: RE: [NSP] Billy Pigg To: [2]inkyadr...@googlemail.com Hello everyone, I've made several requests over the last

[NSP] Re: arrogant

2011-06-17 Thread Gibbons, John
I have received no emails via the list from Kyle Eckmann, who doesn't seem to be on it. Why would he ask you to be removed from a list which you don't administer? I think you have been wound up -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On

[NSP] Re: arrogant

2011-06-17 Thread smallpipes
I am afraid that it is a classic schoolboy error to reply on list to an off list message. I have seen this a lot on other lists and it is often a source of rancour. If you look at the heading of the offending email it is clear that was sent only to inky Mike Quoting Gibbons, John

[NSP] Re: Arrogant

2011-06-17 Thread wayne cripps
Kyle was on the list - he signed up a couple of years ago. Now he is off. If anyone else wants to leave the list send 'em to me. Wayne To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Francis Wood
Hello Richard, I think we pretty much agree. Who, for example, would want to play Rothbury Hills in a staccato manner? (Who, indeed would want to play RH in any manner whatsoever, some might interject.) However it was composed by a significant piper who happened to be the official piper to

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Francis Wood
On 17 Jun 2011, at 14:14, ch...@harris405.plus.com wrote: The Uilleann pipe chanter can be, and often is, played closed, by resting the chanter on the knee. It's possible, but more difficult, to get just as clean, detatched playing as with nsp. However this isn't seen as a fundamental

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread barry07
Quoting Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com: Hello Richard, I think we pretty much agree. Who, for example, would want to play Rothbury Hills in a staccato manner? Detached playing is not necessarily staccato. When the notes are long, the spaces seem even shorter. (Who, indeed

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Dave S
Love it -- copulating skeletons eh bien 'enri c'est formidable Thanks for that Barry cheers Dave S On 6/17/2011 10:44 PM, barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote: Quoting Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com: Ah. harpsichord duets. The sound of skeletons copulating on a corrugated tin roof.

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Francis Wood
On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:44, barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote: The sound of skeletons copulating on a corrugated tin roof. Rattling the parrot's cage with a toasting fork is another. What a good thing nobody would ever say anything so cruel about our magnificent instrument. Positive remarks only,

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Francis Wood
Positive remarks only, about it's neatness of execution. When I said it's, I hope it's obvious that its real meaning was its. Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread cwhill
I do have a set of UPs (nasty cheap ones which I bought reasonably as they had been over 5 years on the shop shelf and nobody knew anything about them (yes, from Hobgoblin) - no regulators) but they still weigh a ton. The fingering chart I managed to find may give you an idea

[NSP] Re: Deaf, dead OR just bemused

2011-06-17 Thread barry07
Quoting smallpi...@machineconcepts.co.uk: Can anyone remember which famous smallpiper once fitted a regulator to a set of smallpipes and reinvented the melodian (or at least the sound of one)? Yes, I can. As I remember, to my ears it sounded rather like a harmonium. Barry To get on

[NSP] Re: UP open/closed tuning

2011-06-17 Thread Gibbons, John
Francis, I think the tuning of modern UP is optimised when they're played closed. If the chanter's played open, it drinks more air, and plays sharper. Johnny Doran played off the knee a lot, and when Willie Clancy 1st heard him, he thought he was out of tune - a heresy which he repented in

[NSP] Re: Deaf, dead OR just bemused

2011-06-17 Thread John Dally
Robbie Greensit, wasn't it? On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:07 PM, [1]barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote: Quoting [2]smallpi...@machineconcepts.co.uk: Can anyone remember which famous smallpiper once fitted a regulator to a set of smallpipes and reinvented the melodian (or at least the

[NSP] Re: Deaf, dead OR just bemused

2011-06-17 Thread inky-adrian
I did play the NSPs with regulators and won in the other category, not trad. NSPing. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: divorce

2011-06-16 Thread Christopher.Birch
-Original Message- From: BIRCH Christopher (DGT) Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:53 AM To: 'Dave S' Subject: RE: [NSP] divorce Well said, Dave! C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dave S Sent: Thursday, June

[NSP] Re: divorce

2011-06-16 Thread Francis Wood
Hello Dave and others, I see things a little differently. Two things have happened here, the first being a move to have opinions, information and other resources made permanently available in the form of a forum. This is currently happening in the NPS Forum and the Traditional NSP Forum

[NSP] Re: divorce

2011-06-16 Thread Julia Say
On 16 Jun 2011, Francis Wood wrote: By the way, does anyone have any good ideas about the right kind of oil to use? Definitely. The sort appropriate for pouring on troubled waters! JUlia To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: divorce

2011-06-16 Thread Julia Say
On 16 Jun 2011, Dave S wrote: This list served the purpose of introducing the beginner(shy fence-sitter to brash young expert) to light conversation/disagreement/proposition on all subjects around the wonderful instrument known as the NSP. It has done this well for a good number of

[NSP] Re: divorce

2011-06-16 Thread Alan Corkett
Dear All Hear, Hear! Julia! Alan Corkett -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu]On Behalf Of Julia Say Sent: 16 June 2011 09:43 To: Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site; Dave S Subject: [NSP] Re: divorce On 16 Jun 2011, Dave S wrote: This list

[NSP] Re: divorce

2011-06-16 Thread Reid Bishop
What follows is testimonial. The forum certainly has value in my book. It was through this forum and the NPS that I found the encouragement and advice necessary to start playing the NSP. In Mississippi, USA no less. It is also how I found my set which arrived from Italy. Talk about

[NSP] Re: divorce

2011-06-16 Thread cwhill
On 16/06/2011 09:55, Alan Corkett wrote: Dear All Hear, Hear! Julia! Alan Corkett I have to confess to being an outsider wherever I am. Being in Liverpool, I'm well outside the regular piping fraternity of the North East plus, despite having been a piper for 38 years I'm not very good and,

[NSP] Re: divorce

2011-06-16 Thread wayne cripps
Hi Reid - An aside here - every posting of this list has [NSP] in the Subject: line, and most mail readers will let you filter these messages into a special mailbox, which you can read when you want. Of course most mail readers do this in different ways, so you will have the challenge of

[NSP] Re: divorce

2011-06-16 Thread Dave S
Thanks Francis, --- Original Message Subject: Re: [NSP] divorce Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:16:16 +0200 From: Dave S [1]david...@pt.lu To: Francis Wood [2]oatenp...@googlemail.com Hi Francis, I concur with all of your points, it's not bad at all that

[NSP] forums, mailing lists etc

2011-06-16 Thread smallpipes
I must admit that I am at a loss to understand the fuss about styles of playing. I have always been aware that there are almost as many styles as there are influential players. When I listen to good players like Joe Hutton, Anthony, Andy, Kathryn, Alice, Alistair, Adrian etc (why do so

[NSP] Re: forums, mailing lists etc

2011-06-16 Thread Tim Rolls
Hi All, When you go to sign up to the NPS forum Mike mentions, can you please do so using your own name, or a recognisable form of it. We've had problems in the past with strange pseudonyms, (including some this week from 1...@bestmoneysavingtips.com based in Latvia, and the like). thanks

[NSP] Re: forums, mailing lists etc

2011-06-16 Thread Julia Say
On 16 Jun 2011, smallpi...@machineconcepts.co wrote: why do so many good players have names starting with an A Totally flippant aside To get to the front of the queue / top of the list, perhaps? v. big grin (I have a relative whose surname began Abe - and always found themselves picked

[NSP] Trad.nsp vs Dartmouth

2011-06-16 Thread Inky- Adrian
The annual smallpipe Bitch and Bite comps. will be in July. There will be 6 classes: absolute sloppyness and running-your-notes-in, just damn right easy-playing, almost there, nearly normal, can't play like that-it's too hard and tight as a cats arsehole. Tommy Breckons would be

[NSP] Re: Trad.nsp vs Dartmouth

2011-06-16 Thread Dave S
Hi Inky, -- glad you keep one eye open and nope I can't play proper - I don't have the wrapper of the tradition anywhere near - so I don't even bother with any form of competition, I just like great instruments. Dave S On 6/16/2011 8:08 PM, Inky- Adrian wrote: The annual smallpipe Bitch

[NSP] Re: Trad.nsp vs Dartmouth

2011-06-16 Thread John Dally
I don't understand the rift between the proper pipers and the NPS. Don't they owe much of their fame to winning and judging competitions there? Doesn't the NPS publish and sell their books? I'm sorry to see fractious elitism born again. I thought we had gone beyond that a couple of years

[NSP] Re: Trad.nsp vs Dartmouth

2011-06-16 Thread Rick Damon
John, I try to stay out of these public debates, as it seems nothing good ever comes of them. But I really think it is unfair of you to categorize the argument as elitism because a couple of the best plpers are trying to make people understand how to play their instrument properly. I'll stop

[NSP] Re: divorce

2011-06-16 Thread Richard York
The oil of the little known Ont Rhubbledwarterz tree may be suggested. Richard By the way, does anyone have any good ideas about the right kind of oil to use? Francis --- Text inserted by Panda

[NSP] Re: Trad.nsp vs Dartmouth

2011-06-16 Thread John Dally
What should we call it? Properism? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Rick Damon richard.a.damon@dartmouth.edu wrote: John, I try to stay out of these public debates, as it seems nothing good ever comes of them. But I really think it is unfair of you to categorize

[NSP] Re: Trad.nsp vs Dartmouth

2011-06-16 Thread Anthony Robb
Hello Rick I have great difficulty with your implication that Billy Pigg was not a 'proper' piper. Best wishes Anthony --- On Thu, 16/6/11, Rick Damon richard.a.damon@dartmouth.edu wrote: From: Rick Damon richard.a.damon@dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re:

[NSP] Billy Pigg

2011-06-16 Thread Inky- Adrian
Fortunately, when I was wanting to play the Union pipes, I ended up at DGBs in Longfram. I ended up buying the NSPs. Billy Pigg was the piper I went for because he was sympathetic to Irish music, having been influenced by Irish musicians and their music, and Scottish music. Pigg

[NSP] test

2011-06-14 Thread Dave S
Just checking my send connection Dave S To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Problems with Dartmouth server last weekend

2011-06-13 Thread Wayne Cripps
Hi People - I took a few days off last weekend and the server decided to act up, and it swallowed and messages sent to up. I am back now, and I believe that the problem has been fixed. I apologise to those people who lost their postings. Wayne To get on or off this list see list

[NSP] Re: Northumbrian Skypers' Society

2011-06-13 Thread Gibbons, John
It sounds like Adrian synchronised to what he heard of Chris, but Chris can only have ignored what he heard of Adrian, as it would have been half a bar later than what he was playing. Proof of concept, anyway... John -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu

[NSP] Re: Dartmouth

2011-06-11 Thread Francis Wood
Well the day the NPS starts dictating how I have to play my pipes will be the day I pick up my chanter and drones and go home. I certainly don't want any elders of that church telling me about being boiled eternally in hot oil (of any variety) because of my fingering technique - (forgive me)

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