Re: [NTG-context] Minimals fail to install on SunOS x86
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:54:26 +0200, Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: For Solaris Sparc we have nobody to compile the binaries at the moment. I also have a Sparc server but I cannot remote access it from my location now. But I feel no need to run context on the Sparc. The person who asked us for adding Solaris x86 support is not using Solaris any more, in last month there was no single Solaris user downloading the minimals and after Oracle overtake, I have been seriously considering removing support for solaris. However, if there is demand for it, we can keep it. OK. If I'm the only user it's not that important to make it run just for me. The question is: is these because there's LuaTeX beta-0.61.0 instead of the latest LuaTeX available or is it because my virtual machine (OpenSolaris whatever-version-has-been-available-two-months-ago) and your server incompatible in some sense? I suspect that it is the second. If you are willing to help us debug, I can try to send you unstripped binary. I will help as much as I can. I did some investigation. The results: I cannot execute the provided binaries, maybe you're right and the systems are incompatible. I downloaded the luatex trunk and compiled the source. I can successfully execute the compiled binary. After having a look at the first-setup.sh script I performed the mtxrun ... line. As expected it failed (as I cannot execute the binaries). I replaced the luatex binary with the fresh compiled one and checked the other programs. Result: I can execute all binaries exept luatex and pdftex. Since I only use MkIV this should not be a problem. So I made the formats and compiled my test document. MkIV works (including metapost). So finally I can get a running system by myself. I will write my own »first-setup.sh« to update my system. - To update the system I can use the following command, right? mtxrun --verbose --script ./bin/mtx-update.lua --force --engine=luatex --texroot=$PWD/tex --extras=all - After replacing the »buggy« luatex I make the formats using: mtxrun --verbose --script ./bin/mtx-update.lua --make --force --engine=luatex --texroot=$PWD/tex Please correct me if I use the wrong arguments. I don't really understand the use of all the options. How can I check the luatex version used in the minimals? Maybe it is saved in some text file. Background: If the luatex version changes my script needs to fetch the new trunk, compile and replace the »buggy or incompatible« binary. Simply getting the binary and execute --version triggers the error mentioned before. Thanks for your help. If I can do anything (send binaries, etc.) let me know. best regards Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] New typescript mechanism for weights/opticals?
Hi,
I like Mojcas idea for new typescripts:
%%%
\startsomenewfonttypescriptcommand [kepler]
[width={condensed,semicondensed,*regular,extended}]
[size={caption,*regular,subhead,display},switch={10pt,12pt,17pt}]
[weight={light,*regular,medium,semibold,*bold,black}]
...
%%%
\switchtofontdimension[width=semicondensed,weight={light,medium}]
%%%
That would make different weight/opticals font handling much less cumbersome.
At the moment its no fun dealing with weights/opticals.
I really would appreciate that (or any other easy usable) solution that
provides a standardized way to handle weights/opticals with not too much
overhead.
Regards
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] New typescript mechanism for weights/opticals?
On 2010-09-22 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
On 22-9-2010 1:35, Marco wrote:
Hi,
I like Mojcas idea for new typescripts:
%%%
\startsomenewfonttypescriptcommand [kepler]
[width={condensed,semicondensed,*regular,extended}]
[size={caption,*regular,subhead,display},switch={10pt,12pt,17pt}]
[weight={light,*regular,medium,semibold,*bold,black}]
...
%%%
\switchtofontdimension[width=semicondensed,weight={light,medium}]
%%%
sure. looks nice, but the outcome is quite unpredictable unless you know
the font and that in turn demands some investiation on the users end
I think some user investiation will always be necessary since the vendors
dont't follow the same schema and every font collection is different.
That would make different weight/opticals font handling much less
cumbersome. At the moment its no fun dealing with weights/opticals.
it will never be fun ... (in most cases one will use suggested
combinations and then for odd cases like a section title something special)
Don't be that pessimistic ;-) Selecting the proper font *is* fun.
I really would appreciate that (or any other easy usable) solution that
provides a standardized way to handle weights/opticals with not too much
overhead.
given the huge differences in font collections there will never be an
easy way with fonts that come in many weights/widths/sizes .. at least I
cannot remember a project that I did where any system was present
That's a true point. But I think there is room for improvements. ConTeXt
supports a standardized interface for Bold/Sans/Italic/Slanted... font
variants and it lacks an interface for (more) weights/widths.
Of course the person setting up the (whatever variant of) typescript(s) has to
do some investiation about the font. But after that the user should be
provided with standardized commands for the weights/widths.
Regards
Marco
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[NTG-context] Questions regarding the bibliography
Hi,
I've a bunch of questions regarding the bibliography. I didn't find much
useful information somewhere, neither in the wiki, the manual or in
bibmod-doc.pdf. If my questions are answered elsewhere feel free to point me
to the right direction.
1) Why are there redundant keys in the publication list:
\startpublication [
k=ram,
t=book,
a=Ramez Elmasri, % BTW: How to input many authors in this place?
y=1981, % not taken into account
u=http://foo.bar.com
]
\author {Ramez}[R.]{}{Elmasri} % Is it OK to leave out the first bracket?
\pubyear {2007}
\biburl {http://foo.bar.com}
\stoppublication
I checked that the »y=1981« is not taken into account, in fact I can remove it
without problems, if I remove \pubyear it doesn't work. What's »y=...« for?
Same goes for \author vs. a=... Why two locations for the author and url...?
2) What about not valid entries? \biburl for example is not a valid BibTeX
entry type, it's neither required, nor optional. Can I provide it without
running into problems? Providing for example \country leads to problems with
the year. But \biburl is not used in the style, \country is.
3) During testing I forgot to say \usemodule[bib] and it worked well. Is this
line not needed any more?
4) How to specify the \edition entry? Use the attached file for testing. If I
specify \edition {5} I get »5 edition« using the setup
\setuppublications[alternative=num]. That's wrong, either 5th edition or
edition 5. When I use \setuppublications[alternative=ams] I get 5th ed. That's
correct. For this reason I cannot enter \edition {5th}. The correct input
should be independent from the style used.
5) How to specify online sources? BibTeX has no proper data type for this. But
BibLaTeX has the type »online« with the special field urldate (for the access
date). Maybe there's a corresponding functionality in ConTeXt.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Marco
\startbuffer[mukk]
\startpublication
[k=fundamentals,
y=1981,
t=book]
\title {Fundamentals of Database Systems}
\author {Ramez}[R.]{}{Elmasri}
\author {Shamkant B.}[S.\,B.]{}{Navathe}
\pubyear {2007}
\pubname {Addison Wesley}
\edition {5}
\city {Boston}
\stoppublication
\startpublication
[k=garden,
t=misc, % What to use here?
u=http://wiki.contextgarden.net % What is this line for?
]
\title {\ConTeXt-Garden}
\biburl {http://wiki.contextgarden.net}
\stoppublication
\stopbuffer
\savebuffer[mukk][\jobname.bbl]
\setuppublications [alternative=ams]
% \setuppublications [alternative=num] % Look for edition
\starttext
As you can see in \cite[fundamentals] or in \cite[garden].
\placepublications
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Ligatures on Linux Libertine Bold Italic
Hello there.
I'm pretty new to ConTeXt and I'm really impressed by your work. So a
huge thanks is due.
Anyway. Today I found that Linux Libertine Bold Italic doesn't create
the ligatures. These work on XeTeX. I took a look at
/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.mkiv where the libertine
typescript is defined, but I couldn't find anything wrong. The fonts are
the one shipped with the latest updated TeXlive 2010 (they are correctly
loaded).
With other fonts the ligatures for Bold Italic are created, so I'm a bit
lost. Is my setup broken somehow? Or the fonts are broken? Or is it a
bug?
Thanks in advance.
start minimal example %
\usetypescript[termes,libertine]
\setupbodyfont[termes,12pt]
\def\testtext{
The fi ffl ffi fluf \par
{\it The fi ffl ffi fluf fi} \par
{\bf The fi ffl ffi fluf} \par
{\bi The fi ffl ffi fluf}\par}
\starttext
Termes:
\testtext
\switchtobodyfont[libertine,12pt]
Libertine:
\testtext
\stoptext
% end minimal example %%
ConTeXt ver: 2010.11.03 19:42 MKIV fmt: 2010.11.8
LuaTeX, Version beta-0.63.0-2010091123 (From the latest minimal distribution)
pdffonts output
name type emb sub uni object ID
- --- --- --- -
PHAMRR+TeXGyreTermes-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 18 0
OOTVTU+TeXGyreTermes-Italic CID Type 0C yes yes yes 19 0
QEYIRB+TeXGyreTermes-BoldCID Type 0C yes yes yes 20 0
ONUACL+TeXGyreTermes-BoldItalic CID Type 0C yes yes yes 21 0
YFUCDN+LinLibertineO CID Type 0C yes yes yes 22 0
PYLANJ+LinLibertineOICID Type 0C yes yes yes 23 0
LBBYDA+LinLibertineOBCID Type 0C yes yes yes 24 0
FBIQKN+LinLibertineOBI CID Type 0C yes yes yes 25 0
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Re: [NTG-context] Ligatures on Linux Libertine Bold Italic
Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com writes: On 11/08/2010 03:53 PM, Marco wrote: Hello there. I'm pretty new to ConTeXt and I'm really impressed by your work. So a huge thanks is due. Anyway. Today I found that Linux Libertine Bold Italic doesn't create the ligatures. These work on XeTeX. I took a look at /tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.mkiv where the libertine typescript is defined, but I couldn't find anything wrong. The fonts are the one shipped with the latest updated TeXlive 2010 (they are correctly loaded). With other fonts the ligatures for Bold Italic are created, so I'm a bit lost. Is my setup broken somehow? Or the fonts are broken? Or is it a bug? Whether this is broken and/or a bug is not clear cut, but the Bold Italic font does not have a default script, so it needs an explicit script=latn in the feature setup (the other fonts actually do have a default script, it is just the bold italic that does not have one). I don't really know how to set that up in such a way that it will not affect other fonts as well, but as a workaround/large hammer method, adding this \definefontfeature[default][default][script=latn] before loading the typescript will probably work. Best wishes, Taco It worked. Now it's all clear to me. Thanks Wolfgang and Taco. I'll report the bug to the linux libertine project. -- Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] writebetweenlist regression (mkiv)
Hello there. Currently \writebetweenlist doesn't work as advised. It inserts the argument before the last entry of the list. The minimal example is provided by the reference itself. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/writebetweenlist The rule is correctly inserted at http://live.contextgarden.net/ and in the ConTeXt shipped with TeXlive 2010 (2010.05.24), but not with the current beta and the 2010.07.30 version. mkii works fine. It prints --rule-- List entry A List entry B Best regards -- Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Stepping mechanism in MkIV
On 2010-11-16 Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote: [...] Are there any plans to have a mkiv based stepping mechanism? If so, it will be nice to have an option to be able to create multiple pages, one for each step. +1 Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Composed words: a simple way without a global replacement to |-|?
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com writes: Am 27.11.2010 um 16:35 schrieb Marco Pessotto: Dear list, today I was reviewing the hyphenation and stumbled on the composed word problem, as explained at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Composed_words and in the ref-manual. Now, the trivial question sounds: is there a way to say to TeX hey, consider the hyphen inside words a good breakpoint? For MkIV you can add „\setbreakpoints[compound]“ to your document. Thanks a lot, you saved my day. I've added the solution to http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Composed_words -- Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps
On 2010-12-12 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Depending on your answers, I would perhaps request to trigger
\setff{smallcaps} by \sc in the core.
Can be a problem because we have font (e.g. Latin Modern) where
smallcaps are still in a separate file.
So the user has to know in which fashion the small caps were created, as font
feature or in a seperate file. That's not very convenient. When the user
switches to another font it may break the document, since he has to change the
\setff{smallcaps} to \sc.
Maybe it is possible that the \sc macro can check if the font contains the
small caps as a feature. Is there a switch like
\doiffontfeatureexists{smcp}{...}? I have the following logic in mind:
1) Check if small caps are a font feature, if not
2) check if small caps are in a seperate font, if not
3) fake them.
Regards
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] bold small caps
On 2010-12-12 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Maybe it is possible that the \sc macro can check if the font contains the
small caps as a feature. Is there a switch like
\doiffontfeatureexists{smcp}{...}?
\startluacode
function commands.doifelsecurrentfonthasfeature(name)
local f = fonts.identifiers[font.current()]
f = f and f.shared
f = f and f.otfdata
f = f and f.luatex
f = f and f.features
commands.doifelse(f and (f.gpos[name] or f.gsub[name]))
end
\stopluacode
\def\doifelsecurrentfonthasfeature#1%
{\ctxlua{commands.doifelsecurrentfonthasfeature(#1)}}
\let\normalsc\sc
\definefontfeature[smcp][smcp=yes]
\definefontfeature[latn][script=latn]
\unexpanded\def\sc{\doifelsecurrentfonthasfeature{smcp}{\addfs{smcp}}\normalsc}
\starttext
\tf text \sc text
\switchtobodyfont[cambria]\addfs{latn} % cambria needs the latin script for
smallcaps
\tf text \addfs{smcp} text
\switchtobodyfont[modern]
\tf text \sc text
\stoptext
That's a nice piece of code! Thanks for your effort.
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] howto start with presentations?
Where can i find an example of simpleslides usage? Either take a look on your hard drive at: tex/texmf-context/doc/context/third/simpleslides/simpleslides.pdf or at: http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/t-simpleslides/doc/context/third/simpleslides/simpleslides.pdf There you'll find many examples how to use the module. Regards Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \date format according to ISO 8601
Hi,
in my opinion it makes sense to display the date in ISO 8601 format.
now: \date results in: January 31, 2011
ISO 8601: \date would result in: 2011–01–31
In case Hans does not like this idea, is it possible to change it to make
ISO 8601 the default. Something like
\setupdate [format={year, –, mm, –, day}]
Regards
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta
Hi, I get the following error while updating minimals: MTXrun | run: texexec --make --all --fast --xetex cont-nl cont-enTeXExec | using search method 'kpsewhich' TeXExec | using existing database TeXExec | using tex engine xetex TeXExec | using tex format path /nonesuch/texmf/web2c/xetex TeXExec | generating tex format cont-nl.mkii This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.9995.2 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INITEX) entering extended mode ! I can't find file `cont-nl.mkii'. * *cont-nl.mkii (Press Enter to retry, or Control-D to exit) Please type another input file name: Linux x86_64 Regards Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta
On 2011-02-01 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 1-2-2011 1:40, Marco wrote: Hi, I get the following error while updating minimals: MTXrun | run: texexec --make --all --fast --xetex cont-nl cont-enTeXExec | using search method 'kpsewhich' TeXExec | using existing database TeXExec | using tex engine xetex TeXExec | using tex format path /nonesuch/texmf/web2c/xetex TeXExec | generating tex format cont-nl.mkii This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.9995.2 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INITEX) entering extended mode ! I can't find file `cont-nl.mkii'. * *cont-nl.mkii (Press Enter to retry, or Control-D to exit) Please type another input file name: can you run mktexlsr manually? Yes. This fixes mkii. But as Vedran and Luigi already pointed out first-setup.sh is broken. mkiv works ok. BTW: Is it possible to only build mkiv and the english interface? Maybe by passing some options to first-setup.sh? I never need other interfaces and hardly ever mkii. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta
On 2011-02-01 Vedran Miletić riva...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if it's a bug or feature. If I understand correctly, mkii works ok in hidden folders, but mkiv no. I suspect then a bug in names resolver which in this situation it's ok . (perhaps you can try with /Users/bonasia/a.context-new ) Doesn't work either. Well - my context directory doesn't have to be hidden - why hide a pretty thing? Regards, Jörg Yes, there is a bug when using dots, someone recently triggered it when using versioned names (context-2011.01.18 or something). Not sure if it can be fixed. I also ran across a bug considering the case of external graphics. The case is not taken into account. And luatex hangs, if a graphic is not found. Example: \starttext \externalfigure [CoW] % A file CoW does not exist, only cow.pdf % and cow.pdf is included, should output gray box \externalfigure [GrApHiC] % Does not exist and causes mkiv to hang % Should output gray box \stoptext Regards Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] error updating beta WAS: beta
On 2011-02-01 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: In first-septup.sh , near the bottom mtxrun --verbose --script ./bin/mtx-update.lua --update --make --force --engine=all --context=beta --platform=$platform --texroot=$PWD/tex $@ I believe that --engine=luatex is the switch you want indeed, but one needs a fresh minimal because the current state is stored and kept Thanks Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \date format according to ISO 8601
On 2011-02-01 Stefan Müller warrence@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,
I wouldn't like the idea of displaying \date in ISO 8601 format. I'd
rather prefer the human-readable version. The ISO 8601 is a standard for
exchange of date and time-related data [1], not for text documents
made for humans to read.
How to get what you want is explained here [2], I think. HTH.
No, not really. \currentdate [year, –, mm, –, dd] gives me the date in
ISO 8601 format. To force consistency it makes sense to specify the date
format in a *global* setup like
\setupdate [format={year, –, mm, –, dd}]
to avoid ugly constructions like
\def\Today{\currentdate [year, –, mm, –, dd]}
Regards
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Re: [NTG-context] beta
On 2011-02-01 pmli...@free.fr (Peter Münster) wrote: Vedran Miletić riva...@gmail.com writes: Yes, there is a bug when using dots, Or a feature...?! ;) See also: - http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2010/052339.html (and such can mean a dot) - http://pmrb.free.fr/contextref.pdf section 1.7 ;-) I don't want to start an argue, sice this bug/feature doesn't affect my work. But just my 2 cents: 1) The operating system / file system basically decides which names are permitted. And in times of luatex and unicode it's a pity that file names with international characters aren't supported. All other programs can cope with that. 2) I often use automatically generated graphics like graph.1.pdf graph.2.pdf graph.3.pdf ... According to the documentation and Hans these file names aren't permitted, since dots and numbers aren't allowed. However when I include the complete names with extention it works. Regards Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \date format according to ISO 8601
On 2011-02-01 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 00:03, Marco wrote:
In case Hans does not like this idea, is it possible to change it to make
ISO 8601 the default. Something like
\setupdate [format={year, –, mm, –, day}]
Your question wasn't clear at first. Is this what you want?
\setuplanguage[en][date={year,–,mm,–,dd}]
Brilliant, that's exactly what I want. I didn't expect the date »hidden« in the
language settings, I looked for \setupdate.
Thanks Mojca
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] \date format according to ISO 8601
On 2011-02-01 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Your question wasn't clear at first. Is this what you want?
\setuplanguage[en][date={year,–,mm,–,dd}]
Brilliant, that's exactly what I want. I didn't expect the date »hidden«
in the language settings, I looked for \setupdate.
It's because each language requires a different output, but I share
your thoughts.
Please leave a note at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/date.
Done
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[NTG-context] Format of included PNG images
Hi, I read that most programs convert PNG images to JPEG images while creating PDF files. Is this also true for ConTeXt/LuaTeX? What happens when PNG images are included? Regards Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Format of included PNG images
I read that most programs convert PNG images to JPEG images while creating PDF files. hm, are you sure ? Is this also true for ConTeXt/LuaTeX? no What happens when PNG images are included? they are included and stop. Thanks. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] [t-vim] Line numbers
Hi everybodyoy
Hi Aditya
I like your t-vim module. I think it's a nice concept not te reinvent the
wheel and to take advantage of the hundreds of syntax files of the vim
contributors.
1) You have »Add line numbers« on your TODO list. What's the progress?
2) To set the font size I do the following, is there a better solution like
bodyfont=xyz for definetyping or is it just fine like this?
\definevimtyping [PHP] [
syntax=php,
before={\switchtobodyfont[small]},
]
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Re: [NTG-context] some equivalent of latex beamer \itemuncover@1?
On 2011-02-21 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Also, I've never seen anyone do a presentation with another viewer. I do. I never use Acrobat Reader. (who wonders why no one adds simple javascript support to the other pdf viewers, a reasonable subset would do) I don't think adding JavaScript is a feasible solution. It's very unlikely to be added to all PDF readers. I favour the multi page solution, since it works in all readers without problems. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-vim] Line numbers
On 2011-02-21 Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:
1) You have »Add line numbers« on your TODO list. What's the progress?
No. I will look into them. I think that I should just be able to plug in
ConTeXt's line numbering mechanism.
I like the »just« in your sentence :) That would be awesome.
2) To set the font size I do the following, is there a better solution
like bodyfont=xyz for definetyping or is it just fine like this?
\definevimtyping [PHP] [
syntax=php,
before={\switchtobodyfont[small]},
]
I think that the best idea is to add a style=..., and color=..., key.
ACK
In fact, I have added these keys to t-filter module. If you get the latest
version of the module from github[1],
done
then you should be able to say:
\definevimtyping
[PHP]
[syntax=php,
style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setupinterlinespace},
]
That works/looks nice.
PS: The style=.. and color=... attributes only work with MkIV.
That's fine for me.
Regards
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Re: [NTG-context] [t-vim] Line numbers
On 2011-02-22 Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:
Check the latest dev version of t-vim.
https://github.com/adityam/filter/blob/dev/t-vim.tex
Brilliant. Works like a charm.
I stumbled over one thing: When set directory=tmp the temporary files are sent
to the tmp directory except the md5 hashes of external file code, these are
put in the working dir. Example:
%%% t.tex %%%
\usemodule [vim]
\definevimtyping [CON] [
syntax=context,
directory=tmp,
]
\starttext
\typeCONfile {t.tex}
\startCON
% empty
\stopCON
\stoptext
%
Is it possible to convince the context script to remove the temporary stuff
when called with the --purgeall option?
Thanks for your work.
Regards
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Re: [NTG-context] [t-vim] Line numbers
On 2011-02-23 Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote: The md5 hashes are in the same directory as the file. So, in case you are including a file from the current directory, the md5 hash will also be there. So it's on purpose. I wasn't sure about that. So, the easiest solution is to move (or perhaps simlink) the file to the temporary directory. Then you can include the file tmp/t.tex and the md5 hash will be created in the tmp directory. It will probably work, but is not a nice solution in my opinion. It looks strange that the document includes files from the tmp directory. From a tmp directory I expect to be able to delete the content without any effects. Anyway, I don't really care, since I usually don't delete the temporary files. Is it possible to convince the context script to remove the temporary stuff when called with the --purgeall option? I will look into that. I guess that the easiest way out is that, instead of using .vimout extension, I use .tmp extension. Then, all the temporary files will be removed by --purgeall. I don't think so. AFAIK --purgeall only deletes .tmp files with the basename as the document itself. I think it would make sense to convince --purgeall to be more grabby and to remove all .tmp files in the working dir + all files in the »directory« dir (here tmp). But I'm not sure about possible displeasing side effects, though. Regards Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] increase space on the left of pages included using \copypages
On 2011-02-23 Andreas Harder ahar...@uni-koblenz.de wrote: \getfiguredimensions[filename] It seems that this is broken with the newest beta – at least for me. Can someone confirm? Confirmed on solaris x86 LuaTeX ver: beta-0.65.0-2010121317 ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.18 17:17 and ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.20 20:34 Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-vim] Line numbers
On 2011-02-23 Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote: [...] I do not think that either of these options is worth the trouble. No, definitely not. I am not sure what you want. Do you want [...] context --purgeall This will probably be difficult to implement, since the complete directory tree has to be scanned to find xyz-externalfilter-abc-X.___ remains. However context --purgeall filename should remove all temporary files belonging to the document like filename-externalfilter-CON-0.tmp % not removed filename-externalfilter-CON-0.tmp.md5 % not removed filename-externalfilter-CON-0.vimout % not removed So after the project is done one can run context --purgeall filename to get a clean directory structure without having to archive 30 temporary files. Regards Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-vim] Line numbers
On 2011-02-23 Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote: Actually, `context --purgeall` deteles all the files with .tmp and .md5 extension in the current directory. Only the .vimout files remain. Does it on your system? Not on mine. If I compile the example posted earlier in the thread and execute context --purgeall afterwards, the files t-externalfilter-CON-0.tmp.md5 and t.tex.md5 still remain. Why not simply run `context --purgeall` (no filename)? See above. Regards Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] git repository in sync with minimals
Is the git repository git://gitorious.org/context/context.git in sync with the minimals? If not, is there another revision control system repository for context that is? Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] git repository in sync with minimals
Is the git repository git://gitorious.org/context/context.git in sync with the minimals? It is but it is incomplete compared to the minimals and therefore may not be what you are looking for. Long answer: The repository is in sync with http://pragma-ade.nl/context/current/cont-tmf.zip (see http://gitorious.org/context/context/blobs/script/context_git_update.pl). However, the repository misses binaries, all extras and additional fonts that are available on http://minimals.contextgarden.net/. Thanks Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Screen document design
On 2011-02-24 Ian Lawrence physics.roo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for taking the trouble for what was really simple, but seems undocumented (?) Some other units: mm Millimetres cm Centimetres in Inches em em width, depends on the font ex ex height, depends on the font pc Picas (1pc = 12pt) pt Points (1in = 72.27pt) Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How to disable hyphenation?
But I found something peculiar happening. I think it is a bug, but maybe I am wrong. Where genereren first was hypenated, it now gets put completly put at the end of the sentence. What else did you expect after you told the system to leave at least five characters to the left and four character to the right of a hypenatable word? If that is possible now, why was it not possible beforehand? It was possible. But ConTeXt calculates the breakpoints (including possible hypenation) so that the paragraphs look nice and the inter word space will not be stretched too much. In another paragraph I am using gedocumenteerd. First it was gedo- cumenteerd, now it is gedocu- menteerd. What is happening here? What else did you expect after you told the system to leave at least five characters to the left and four character to the right of a hypenatable word? Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-vim] Line numbers
On 2011-02-26 Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote: So after the project is done one can run context --purgeall filename to get a clean directory structure without having to archive 30 temporary files. I don't know how to implement this functionality and still provide a working pdf. No problem. I'm very satisfied with the module at this state. It would just be a nice-to-have feature. To save time, t-vim (actually t-filter with continue=yes) runs the external filter only in the first run; in the subsequent runs the cached file is used. So, if I want to delete the temporary files, they must be deleted in the last run. Right now, there is no means of detecting the last run in MkIV. The only thing that comes to my mind is to delete the files (of course only when --purgeall is set) after *every* run. That's quite inefficient (since vim is run every time again) but it would produce correct ouput and delete the files. Even if the mode could be detected, asking context to delete temporary files forces another run, I don't understand the reason behind this behaviour. Does it make sense? Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?
On 2011-03-12 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de wrote: Maybe we should start a discussion in a new thread to find out: 1) why users are confused with mkiv/mkii? Because the old manuals only mention mkii and many things have changed in mkiv and don't work in mkii. It is not easy for beginners to choose between mkii and mkiv. And many are not aware of the two different (and incompatible) versions and mix them up. 2) why they my be reluctant to install the minimals? First: Users like to install software using the package management system. Installing software manually is considered evil. For software that is updated frequently usually ppa links are provided for the repository. Second: You mentioned it already. Users tend to install »maximals«, not minimals, they don't like rectricted versions if you can get the whole. ;) 3) how to restructure the garden to make things clearer for newcomers? Make it clear that the minimals are the standard way of using ConTeXt, not TeXlive when they want an up-to-date ConTeXt distribution. A clear advise for mkiv and contra mkii. mkiv is the way to go in the future. 4) how do users look for information and how to optimise the garden for search engine requests? I don't see a problem there (but still, maybe other people have). Searching the mailing list, the garden or google for context + pragma usually points to the right direction. 5) how to better promote context to new/latex users? Provide examples using the described features, so they have a point to start from. This is solved in a good way in the pdf documents, not really on the wiki. I understand the problem. Having said that, pages like Using Mark IV or Install Mark IV should be renamed to installing/using context. ACK Then I am aware of many people who are reluctant to install the minimals. I now wonder why I (myself) was unwilling to install the minimals in the first place, having TeXLive installed already. For one it was because of the extra effort. But I recall it was also the name The ConTeXt MINIMAL distribution that kept me. The name minimal somehow suggested something incomplete or minor to me. It took me a while to figure out that the minimals is actually more than you get from TexLive. Therefore, I would suggest leaving out minimal and advertise the superior instead. Very true. But it's an established name, I don't believe that it's likely to be changed. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote: When installing minimals you have MKII, XeTeX and MKIV. I understand that you should normally use MKIV, but when are the other two used? MKII can be used either with pdftex or xetex (as you wish, compare advantages/disadvantages). MKIV can only be used with luatex. You have to differ between ConTeXt »versions« (mkii, mkiv) and TeX backends (pdftex, xetex, luatex). Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/14 Marco net...@lavabit.com On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote: When installing minimals you have MKII, XeTeX and MKIV. I understand that you should normally use MKIV, but when are the other two used? MKII can be used either with pdftex or xetex (as you wish, compare advantages/disadvantages). MKIV can only be used with luatex. You have to differ between ConTeXt »versions« (mkii, mkiv) and TeX backends (pdftex, xetex, luatex). And where do I find the advantages/disadvantages? Wikipedia, google, information source of your slightest distrust. Short and incomplete: pdftex: + protrusion, font expansion - fonts are a nightmare xetex: + system fonts are easily accessible - no protrusion, no font expansion luatex: + protrusion, font expansion, easy access of system fonts, scripting language included, fast with mplib - in general much slower Or can I just always use MKIV? Yes, you can. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On 2011-03-14 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: xetex: + system fonts are easily accessible - no protrusion, no font expansion I never tried to use them, but I thought that Han The Thanh [please add the accents] added that to XeTeX semi-recently (http://scripts.sil.org/svn-view/xetex/TRUNK/, the last comment 8 months ago: merged microtype branch to trunk). I don't follow xetex development any more, so my information was outdated. Thanks for the correction. luatex: + protrusion, font expansion, easy access of system fonts, scripting language included, fast with mplib - in general much slower ... depending on whether in general includes metapost or not. A speed factor of ten (faster) is nothing unusual for luatex when many metapost graphics come into play. I totally agree. But Cecil mentioned in another thread: »My document is mostly text.« Even if a few mp graphics are involved luatex is still noticeably slower. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Ctx running once?
On 2011-03-15 Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:08:11PM +0100, Procházka Lukáš wrote: Hello, is there a possibility how to let Ctx run just once, not three times (as usually), keeping in mind that TOC and/or page numbers may be wrong, just to check correctness of the document? context --once :D If you're really picky you can use \nullfont. Maybe this will save one second or two. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 620 pages limit?
On 2011-03-15 Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
For your information, just out of curiosity, I tested Wolfgang's code
\starttext
\count0=0
\loop\ifnum\count03986 % try 3987
\advance\count0 by 1
\shipout\vbox{}
\repeat
\end
\stoptext
which works fine with 3986 pages but not with 3987 pages and above.
This is with mkiv, version: 2011.02.25 22:03, and LuaTeX version
beta-0.65.0-2010121316 on Mac OS X 10.6.6.
As Vnpenguin and Hartmut already mentioned it's a but in luatex 0.65. Upgrade
to 0.66. and it works.
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Re: [NTG-context] Use date of the tex file in the document
On 2011-03-24 Philipp Gesang pges...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de wrote:
This should also work:
\starttext
\startluacode
function modification_date (file)
local f = file
local attr = lfs.attributes (f)
assert (type(attr) == table)
if attr.mode ~= directory then
return os.date(%Y-%m-%d %H:%M,attr.modification)
end
end
\stopluacode
\unexpanded\def\getdate{%
\ctxlua{context(modification_date (\jobname.tex))}%
}
\getdate
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Use date of the tex file in the document
On 2011-03-24 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote:
\def\dogetdate[#1]%
{\ctalua{context(modification_date(\jobname.tex, #1))}}
^^^
Try \ctxlua …
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Re: [NTG-context] beta (broken?)
On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Hi, I uploaded a new beta. There are quite some changes this time: The following doesn't compile: \starttext \input knuth \stoptext Output: ! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otp.lua:358: attempt to index local 'resources' (a nil value) stack traceback: ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otp.lua:358: in function 'enhancer' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:250: in function 'enhance' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:471: in function 'load' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1760: in function 'otftotfm' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1787: in function 'read_from_otf' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1866: in function ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1855 (tail call): ? (tail call): ? ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:286: in function 'loadfont' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:230: in function 'loadfont' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:397: in function 'read' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:642: in function 'stage_two' main ctx instance:1: in main chunk. This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.65.0-2010121317 ConTeXt ver: 2011.03.25 18:03 MKIV Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta (broken?)
On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: weird ... in font-otp.lua there is in line 347: This line is in font-otf.lua. I added it there. local reload = not data or data.size ~= size or data.time ~= time can you add there print(data,data and data.size,data and data.time,size,time) and then remake the format and try again? I want to know what gets reported there table: a6330d0 110400 1254938640 110400 1254938640 ! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otp.lua:358: attempt to index local 'resources' (a nil value) stack traceback: ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otp.lua:358: in function 'enhancer' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:250: in function 'enhance' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:472: in function 'load' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1761: in function 'otftotfm' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1788: in function 'read_from_otf' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1867: in function ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1856 (tail call): ? Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta (broken?)
On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: and then remake the format and try again? I want to know what gets reported there table: a6330d0 110400 1254938640 110400 1254938640 weird, what font is that? How to obtain that information? These numbers tell me nothing. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta (broken?)
On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: No problem with luatex version beta-0.66.0-2011032521 (rev 4093). But minimals still ship beta-0.65.0-2010121317. I'm not sure if it's a bug in luatex 0.65 or context 2011.03.25. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta (broken?)
On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 25-3-2011 9:16, Marco wrote: On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagenpra...@wxs.nl wrote: and then remake the format and try again? I want to know what gets reported there table: a6330d0 110400 1254938640 110400 1254938640 weird, what font is that? How to obtain that information? These numbers tell me nothing. you can print the table with table.print(data) or have a look in the cache and locate the troublesome file I updated to 2011.03.26 11:35 and everything works fine, even with the default beta-0.65.0-2010121317. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Indent paragraph after \placefigure
How to indent the paragraph after a \placefigure?
Example:
\setupindenting [yes, medium]
\starttext
This line is indented as intended.
\placefigure[auto][fig:somefigure]{My graphic}{}
This is not, but I'd like it to be.
This line is fine.
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Indent paragraph after \placefigure
On 2011-03-27 Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net wrote:
On Sat 26 Mar 2011, Marco wrote:
How to indent the paragraph after a \placefigure?
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupindenting says that
\setupfloats[indentnext=yes] should give the desired result.
(I haven't tested it, though.)
According to the manual \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] is the default behaviour.
But it's not working, same result here:
\setupindenting [yes, medium]
\setupfloats[indentnext=yes]
\starttext
This line is indented as intended.
\placefigure[auto][fig:somefigure]{My graphic}{}
This is not, but I'd like it to be.
This line is fine.
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Indent paragraph after \placefigure
On 2011-03-27 Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net wrote:
Sorry, I think I misunderstood the problem the first time (since I
didn't actually run your example until now). \setupfloats[indentnext=yes]
(as I understand it) controls the behaviour after the float is actually
placed in the output, rather than after the \placefigure... in the
source.
I'd expect the blank line after the \placefigure to trigger
indentation for the next paragraph,but this doesn't happen.
Unfortunately not, no.
I now remember seeing this problem while typesetting a thesis chapter. Going
back to my source file, I see I worked around it in the most obvious way:
\setupindenting [yes, medium]
\setupfloats[indentnext=yes]
\starttext
This line is indented as intended.
\placefigure[auto][fig:somefigure]{My graphic}{}
\indentation This is indented, but only because of the explicit command.
This line is fine.
\stoptext
Maybe there is a better solution,
I hope so. Scattering the source with explicit indentation requests is not
really desirable.
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] Indent paragraph after \placefigure
On 2011-03-27 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 27.03.2011 um 00:22 schrieb Marco: On 2011-03-27 Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net wrote: On Sat 26 Mar 2011, Marco wrote: How to indent the paragraph after a \placefigure? http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupindenting says that \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] should give the desired result. (I haven't tested it, though.) According to the manual \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] is the default behaviour. But it's not working, same result here: It works when you drop the “auto” keyword. Thanks. I don't really get the reason behind, but it works. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Indent paragraph after \placefigure
On 2011-03-27 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Not sure if there are side effects but adding \nonoindentation to these
two commands from strc-flt.mkiv help for the “auto” and “bottom” keywords.
- \def\somebottomfloat [#1]{\someelsefloat[#1]}
- \def\someautofloat [#1]{\someelsefloat[#1]}
+ \def\someautofloat [#1]{\someelsefloat[#1]\nonoindentation}
+ \def\somebottomfloat [#1]{\someelsefloat[#1]\nonoindentation}
This works for me. Seems to be the best solution. Maye Hans can check if it
causes side effects and change it in the source if it's unlikely to cause
troubles.
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Re: [NTG-context] Indent paragraph after \placefigure
On 2011-03-28 Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net wrote: On Sun 27 Mar 2011, Marco wrote: It works when you drop the “auto” keyword. Thanks. I don't really get the reason behind, but it works. When I drop the ‘auto’ keyword it defaults to ‘here’, which does give the indentation (presumably because the figure now appears in the output at the same place as the \placefigure in the input) but it doesn't solve the problem for cases where the figure needs to be somewhere other than ‘here’. Same here. But if you provide »top« for instance, then it works. Wolfgang came up with a better solution, see his post in this thread. Maybe the patch will go into the core. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] focus=standard not respected
In the following example the page focus jumps back to »fit« after clicking on the footnote number after »Foo«, although »focus=standard« is set. \setupinteraction [state=start, focus=standard] \starttext Foo \startfootnote Bar \stopfootnote \stoptext How to respect the users scaling factor? BTW: Is there a particular reason why »focus=fit« is the default? Why should the page scaling change because the user clicked on a hyperlink? Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Indent paragraph after \placefigure
On 2011-03-28 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 27-3-2011 11:14, Pontus Lurcock wrote: On Sun 27 Mar 2011, Marco wrote: It works when you drop the “auto” keyword. Thanks. I don't really get the reason behind, but it works. When I drop the ‘auto’ keyword it defaults to ‘here’, which does give the indentation (presumably because the figure now appears in the output at the same place as the \placefigure in the input) but it doesn't solve the problem for cases where the figure needs to be somewhere other than ‘here’. i can make that work but not now (mkiv-ing floats in later on the agenda) Better later than never :) Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Reference jump location
I have the feeling that this issue is well known, but I cannot find a solution at the moment. When clicking on a reference the jump goes underneath the heading making it invisible. How to make the jump to a position that the heading stays visible? Example: \setupinteraction [state=start, focus=width] \starttext \completecontent [interaction=all] \startchapter [title=Foo] \stopchapter \page \startchapter [title=Bar] \stopchapter \stoptext Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] focus=standard not respected
On 2011-03-28 Marco net...@lavabit.com wrote: In the following example the page focus jumps back to »fit« after clicking on the footnote number after »Foo«, although »focus=standard« is set. \setupinteraction [state=start, focus=standard] \starttext Foo \startfootnote Bar \stopfootnote \stoptext How to respect the users scaling factor? Maybe it was a bit unclear what the problem is. When I select the zoom to fit the page width and click on the link to footnote, the zoom factor changed to »fit«, that means that the whole page fits on the screen, not just the width. Marco BTW: Is there a particular reason why »focus=fit« is the default? Why should the page scaling change because the user clicked on a hyperlink? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] LinearShade trouble
On 2011-03-30 Kumar Appaiah a.ku...@alumni.iitm.ac.in wrote: Dear ConTeXt list, I have been having troubles with LinearShade with ConTeXt for quite a while, even with the latest version. Steps to reproduce: There is a test.tex at the bottom of this e-mail: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=580447#5 Copy paste it into the ConTeXt Live interface at the ConTeXt Garden. Result is blank. But what I expect (produced with an ancient version of ConTeXt, Debian version 2008.05.21-1): http://people.debian.org/~akumar/dump/test_expected.pdf Could you please let me know where things are going wrong? The mail has the log files attached. You have a problem with metapost not being run. Search the contextgarden for write18 for the solution. BTW: You cannot use the contextgarden to check if you code is working. The same restrictions as on your system apply. Consider using mkiv as Hans suggested. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] nested quotes ?
On 2011-03-31 pmli...@free.fr (Peter Münster) wrote:
Steffen Wolfrum cont...@st.estfiles.de writes:
\enquote{Needless to say \enquote{mind mapping} is just ...}
And the result looked like this ...
“Needless to say ‘mind mapping’ is just ...”
Do we have something like this in ConTeXt too?
\quotation{Needless to say \quote{mind mapping} is just
I think the idea behind Steffens post was not to find a
command that does the quoting, rather than finding *one*
command that »knows« about the level of quotation and
inserts the corresponding quotation marks.
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] nested quotes ?
On 2011-03-31 pmli...@free.fr (Peter Münster) wrote: Marco net...@lavabit.com writes: I think the idea behind Steffens post was not to find a command that does the quoting, rather than finding *one* command that »knows« about the level of quotation and inserts the corresponding quotation marks. Right. That's why I mentioned also http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Quotes My fault, I overlooked that part. But indeed, a very nice definition. I wasn't aware of that. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Need help with \setuphead and spacing
On 2011-04-02 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 02.04.2011 um 13:59 schrieb Marco:
\setuphead [chapter,section] [command=\myseccmd]
\def\myseccmd#1#2{\hbox to .75cm{#1}#2}
\setuphead[chapter,section][numberwidth=0.75cm]
You read the source, cheater! ;)
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Re: [NTG-context] luatex-cache setup
On 2011-04-12 Ernesto Posse epo...@cs.queensu.ca wrote: Hello. I use a few tools from ConTeXt such as mptopdf, and whenever I run them they generate a 'luatex-cache' folder directly under my user folder, but this luatex-cache folder is not hidden. How can I configure ConTeXt or luatex to tell it where the cache folder should be? (I looked up the archives and docs but I didn't find anything about this.) Point the environment variable TEXMFCACHE to a directory where the user has write access to. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] luatex-cache setup
On 2011-04-12 Ernesto Posse epo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm confused. my /etc/texmf.cnf file contains: TEXMFCACHE = /var/tex/cache and this directory exists but it is empty. Why is this being ignored? What are the permissions of this directory? If I don't have a user-specific environment variable with that name, shouldn't the one from texmf.cnf be used? In the minimals distribution this is the case, I think the same goes for texlive. Furthermore, when I run kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFCACHE it shows that directory, MkIV doesn't use kpsewhich, but this shows that the value from your texmf.cnf is read. but when I run texconfig, I don't know what texconfig is for. TEXMFCACHE does not appear under kpathsea variables. What is the problem? I don't use texlive, I can only speak for the minimals distribution. But you can try the following (as a normal user): 1) Create a cache directory somewhere 2) set TEXMFCACHE to this directory and export it 3) Run mtxrun --generate 4) Run context --make 5) Run context on a simple hello world file The generated formats should be placed in the new cache directory. PS: I'm running context 2009.11.26-2, luatex 0.60.1-1build2, texlive-luatex 2009-10 on ubuntu 10.10. If you have troubles or want a more up-to-date system you should consider installing the minimals. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
On 2011-04-28 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote: Looks great, but you can not use center. Sure you can. When using center, the quote is centered, but the text comes after the quote. A feasible solution. It is eye-catching and easy to read. It would be nice if the text would flow around both sides of the quote, Do you really think so? How would it look like? A three column layout: text left, pull quote, text right and the text continues in full-width? This would mark up the text surrounding the pull quote as somehow different than the one preceding and following the pull quote and thus confuse the reader. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Pull quotes
On 2011-04-28 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: When using center, the quote is centered, but the text comes after the quote. A feasible solution. It is eye-catching and easy to read. And there are many ways to make it fancy: http://layersmagazine.com/indesign-paragraph-rules.html I never doubted that pull quotes can't be fancy ;) It would be nice if the text would flow around both sides of the quote, Do you really think so? How would it look like? A three column layout: text left, pull quote, text right and the text continues in full-width? http://www.elijournals.com/images/articleFigures/0302/msw0321a.gif I intentionally didn't suggest a layout like this. 1st it has a horrible spacing and 2nd it's very hard to read. This would mark up the text surrounding the pull quote as somehow different than the one preceding and following the pull quote and thus confuse the reader. I don’t think so because it’s common in magazines but TeX isn’t the best tool for this. Mostly in magazines the layout comes first and the readability second, that's why magazines can't be a measure for a readable layout. Best example is variable inter-character spacing. • http://www.wyssdesign.com/Wyss_Design_Images/Bookprojects/Wyss_Design_Success_Spread1.jpg • http://www.twopeaspublishing.com/assets/sample_pullquote.jpg These both pull quotes are not centred. • http://homeforprofits.com/wp-content/uploads/wikipedia-pullquote.png • http://forums.adobe.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-2897250-31035/Picture+32.png This looks fine, it's common this way. But it only works in a two-column layout. I assumed we're talking about one column layouts. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On 2011-05-06 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like context needs a package manager. [...] but I admit that I miss some GUI (but then again I have no idea how to write a portable GUI). There are several possibilities, GTK+ is well documented, ported to many platforms and operating systems (However, maybe not to all, ConTeXt supports) and has Lua bindings. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On 2011-05-07 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 21:08, Marco wrote:
On 2011-05-06 Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Looks like context needs a package manager.
[...] but I admit that I miss some GUI (but then
again I have no idea how to write a portable GUI).
There are several possibilities, GTK+ is well
documented, ported to many platforms and operating
systems (However, maybe not to all, ConTeXt supports)
and has Lua bindings.
If you can prepare a very simple example and explain how
to compile it on windows, mac and windows ...
A simple example of a GUI is attached and may serve as a
starting point (questions to the example maybe better
off-list, since it's not at all ConTeXt related).
I don't know which packages are required on windows or
macos. On linux and solaris it is sufficient to install
GTK and the lua-gtk bindings.
Marco
#! /usr/bin/env lua
Mainwin = {}
Mainwin.__index = Mainwin
List = {
'Just',
'some',
'random',
'stuff',
'for',
'demonstration',
}
local function UpdateProgressBar(bar)
local oldFrac = gtk.progress_bar_get_fraction(bar)
local frac= 1/#List
if (oldFrac + frac = 1)
then
frac = 0
oldFrac = 1
gtk.main_quit()
end
gtk.progress_bar_set_fraction(bar, oldFrac + frac)
end
function Progressbar()
local progress = gtk.progress_bar_new()
gtk.progress_bar_set_text(progress, Processingâ¦)
gtk.progress_bar_set_fraction(progress, 0)
return progress
end
function Mainwin.new()
local self = {}
setmetatable(self, Mainwin)
-- Set main window size, title, â¦
self.w = gtk.window_new(gtk.WINDOW_TOPLEVEL)
self.w:set_title(My Program)
self.w:connect('destroy', gtk.main_quit)
self.w:set_default_size(400, 400)
-- Vertical box
local vbox = gtk.vbox_new(false, 10)
vbox:set_border_width(5)
self.w:add(vbox)
-- Tool bar
local toolbar = gtk.toolbar_new()
vbox:pack_start(toolbar, false, true, 0)
-- Tool bar: items
local items = {
{ gtk-go-forward, StartProcessing },
{ SEPARATOR, nil },
{ gtk-quit, gtk.main_quit } }
-- Tool bar: add items to tool bar
for _, item in pairs(items) do
local stock = item[1]
local handler = item[2]
local button, id
if stock == 'SEPARATOR' then
button = gtk.separator_tool_item_new()
else
button = gtk.tool_button_new_from_stock(stock)
id = button:connect(clicked, handler, self)
end
toolbar:insert(button, -1)
end
-- Progress bar
progressbar = Progressbar()
vbox:pack_start(progressbar, false, true, 0)
-- Scroll window
local scrollwindow = gtk.scrolled_window_new(nil, nil)
vbox:pack_start(scrollwindow, true, true, 0)
-- Tree view
local treeview = gtk.tree_view_new()
scrollwindow:add(treeview)
-- create store
local store = gtk.tree_store_new(3,
glib.TYPE_INT, -- [0] some ID
glib.TYPE_STRING, -- [1] path / file name
glib.TYPE_STRING) -- [2] Status
treeview:set_model(store)
-- column with text
local r, c
r = gtk.cell_renderer_text_new()
c = gtk.tree_view_column_new_with_attributes(File, r, text, 1, nil)
treeview:append_column(c)
c = gtk.tree_view_column_new_with_attributes(Status, r, text, 2, nil)
treeview:append_column(c)
-- add some items
local iter1 = gtk.new TreeIter
for i = 1, #List
do
store:append(iter1, nil)
store:set(iter1, 0, i, 1, List[i], -1)
end
self.w:show_all()
return self
end
function StartProcessing()
DoStartProcessing_c = gnome.closure(DoStartProcessing)
glib.timeout_add(200,
DoStartProcessing_c,
DoStartProcessing)
end
function DoStartProcessing()
UpdateProgressBar(progressbar)
return true
end
--
-- Main Program --
--
require gtk
mainwin = Mainwin.new()
gtk.main()
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Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On 2011-05-08 Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: There are several possibilities, GTK+ is well documented, ported to many platforms and operating systems (However, maybe not to all, ConTeXt supports) and has Lua bindings. If you can prepare a very simple example and explain how to compile it on windows, mac and windows ... Installing the *right* GTK+ version on macosx is quite a challenge. I don't know, I never used macosx. The texlive way of perl/Tk is much more portable, even though it re-introduces perl to the mix. I don't think it's a good idea to introduce perl. The way to go is to get rid of the hotchpotch of languages and implement everything in lua, if possible. If we prefer TK over GTK why not use the lua Tk bindings? Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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On 2011-05-09 Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net wrote: On Sun 08 May 2011, Marco wrote: If we prefer TK over GTK why not use the lua Tk bindings? When I saw this discussion starting I googled the Lua Tk bindings, and it turned out [1] that they apparently haven't been updated since 1998. What about ltcltk [1], it's from 2010? However I never used it, I just did some simple GUIs with the GTK+ binding. [1] http://www.tset.de/ltcltk/ Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On 2011-05-08 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 19:36, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 8-5-2011 4:56, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: Another option could be to use a http browser, using Hans' mtxrun web server and client? That is pure lua, but of course it is not available until after installation of context. We could bootstrap the system by first downloading only the necessary pieces, like is done for the Minimals. It should only need half a dozen files. But all that needs to be actually developed, of course. can someone remind me what problem we're trying to solve here? Having a GUI installer for the minimals (to make it more user-friendly and enable the user to choose what modules and fonts to install). Just a (maybe stupid) idea: What about making the existing windows GUI install and/or update all available modules/fonts, since most windows users don't care about a few hundred MiB disk space. Second, creating a repository for Debian/Ubuntu that enables Linux users to install the minimals using the system package manager. It's easy to create a package for the modules. I have no idea how package management works for MacOS, if something like repositories exist or how software is installed/updated. And leave the existing interface for the other platforms, since the vast majority uses either Linux, Windows or MacOS. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [t-rst] inclusion into Minimals, i. e. installation using `./first-setup.sh --extras='t-rst'`
On 2011-05-08 Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de wrote: On May 8, 2011, at 11:00 PM, Marco wrote: Having a GUI installer for the minimals (to make it more user-friendly and enable the user to choose what modules and fonts to install). Just a (maybe stupid) idea: What about making the existing windows GUI install and/or update all available modules/fonts, since most windows users don't care about a few hundred MiB disk space. Second, creating a repository for Debian/Ubuntu that enables Linux users to install the minimals using the system package manager. It's easy to create a package for the modules. I have no idea how package management works for MacOS, if something like repositories exist or how software is installed/updated. And leave the existing interface for the other platforms, since the vast majority uses either Linux, Windows or MacOS. Just a few thoughts: 1. linux ≠ ubuntu/debian. Maintaining a repository for all different linux distros in their different package formats would be a nightmare. ACK. 2. Maintaining a cross-platform GUI is incredibly difficult. gtk is an absolute non-starter on OS X. If you say so. But anyway, we should not discuss about which GUI toolkit we use, since it is not at all decided that anything will change at this point. 3. Resources are limited. I would rather they go into development of luatex and mkiv then into eye-candy for mouse-pushers. 4. We now get reports from people (not necessarily, but sometomes newbies) going I ran command X, and the output was Y. With a GUI we get: I pushed the button, you know the one with the letters on it, and nothing happened. GUIs have a tendency to hide useful information, making debugging all but impossible. (I sometimes look at comp.text.tex on usenet - the number of people who confuse their editor and its shiny interface with the underlying TeX engine is staggering; the same would happen here). I agree.My thought was thefollowing: The installation/update of ConTeXt is not integrated into the systems default methods. How often do we get installation help requests on the mailing list (on every platform)! Supporting the default installation/update method of the operating system would not necessarily need a GUI and be easy for the users. 5. Even if it's easy to create a debian package for the modules, who's going to create and maintain it? The creation of the package is scriptable. When the module developer uploads/updates a module a (not yet existing) script is called that creates the Debian package, which is saved in the repository. Of course a scriptable solution breaks when e.g. dependencies are not met. 6. Offering a GUI sends out a wrong message to new users: it pretends that this is just something that will work the same way as their word processor or office program works. But once people actually want to do useful things, they need to learn a minimum of coding techniques. Users will then feel deceived because the shiny GUI made them believe they could just write away and click buttons. In sum: I see no compelling reason in favor of, but many important reasons against such an installer. As said before: Supporting the native package installation mechanisms of the major OSs/distributions would be a big help. For the rest the present mechanisms work fine. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] shading
For this metafun has been extended with a few more
shading commands, with the nicest being:
[…]
Very nice these commands! I like them.
But the shadings in MP still have problems with
transparency. Example below.
I guess, it's not supported. If not, are you planing to
add it or is it unlikely?
\starttext
\definecolor [red-t] [r=1, t=.6, a=normal]
\definecolor [blue-t] [b=1, t=.4, a=normal]
\startMPpage
% Works
path p; p:=fullsquare scaled 5cm;
fill p
withshading(linear, llcorner p, urcorner p)
withcolor \MPcolor{red} shadedinto \MPcolor{blue};
% The entire square is transparent,
% not just the shading part
path p; p:=fullsquare scaled 5cm shifted (5cm, 0cm);
fill p
withshading(linear, llcorner p, urcorner p)
withcolor \MPcolor{red} shadedinto \MPcolor{blue-t};
% Error
% path p; p:=fullsquare scaled 5cm shifted (10cm, 0cm);
% fill p
% withshading(linear, llcorner p, urcorner p)
% withcolor \MPcolor{red-t} shadedinto \MPcolor{blue};
\stopMPpage
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] shading
On 2011-05-18 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
On 18-5-2011 8:30, Marco wrote:
% Error
% path p; p:=fullsquare scaled 5cm shifted (10cm, 0cm);
% fill p
% withshading(linear, llcorner p, urcorner p)
% withcolor \MPcolor{red-t} shadedinto \MPcolor{blue};
don't ask how, but the upcoming beta can handle it
\starttext
[…]
Thanks a lot. But I'm still a bit lost in all the
new commands. I can't figure out how to shade from a
particular colour to transparent.
\starttext
\definecolor [trans-t] [t=1, a=normal]
\startMPpage
path p; p:=fullsquare scaled 5cm;
fill p withcolor \MPcolor{red};
% Works if background colour is known and uniform
path p; p:=fullsquare scaled 3cm;
fill p
withshading(linear, llcorner p, urcorner p)
withcolor \MPcolor{blue} shadedinto \MPcolor{red};
path p; p:=fullsquare scaled 5cm shifted (5cm, 0cm);
fill p withcolor \MPcolor{red};
% Shades to white
path p; p:=fullsquare scaled 3cm shifted (5cm, 0cm);
fill p
withshading(linear, llcorner p, urcorner p)
withfromshadecolor \MPcolor{blue} withtoshadecolor \MPcolor{trans-t};
\stopMPpage
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] shading
On 2011-05-19 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 19-5-2011 12:08, Marco wrote: new commands. I can't figure out how to shade from a particular colour to transparent. afaik you can't as one shades from color to color (maybe achoosing nother transparency method) As soon as transparency (the method doesn't matter) is involved, the transparent colour component turns into either black or white (depending on the method). Shading only works well with uniform colours, however the entire path can be made transparent, not the single shading colour components. Best regards Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] writing the name of the section on all the pages
how could I write the name of the current \section or \subject in the
outer margin, with a rotation of 90°?
\setupbackgrounds [state=repeat]
\defineoverlay [side]
[{\rotate[rotation=90]{\getmarking[section]}}]
\setupbackgrounds [text] [rightmargin]
[background=side]
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Re: [NTG-context] writing the name of the section on all the pages
On 2011-05-19 Alexandre Leray alexan...@stdin.fr wrote:
Thanks Marco,
I'm probably missing a piece here has it doesn't produce anything
visible in my composition. I'm a newbie at context; could you detail a
little bit more how to implement this or is this snippet anything I'm
supposed to need?
Here is a small complete example:
\setuplayout [location=doublesided]
\setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided]
\setupbackgrounds [state=repeat]
\defineoverlay [side]
[{\rotate[rotation=90]{\getmarking[section]}}]
\setupbackgrounds [text] [rightmargin] [background=side]
\starttext
\dorecurse{10}
{\startsection[title=Section \recurselevel]
\input knuth \page
\stopsection}
\stoptext
Works here with MkIV 2011.05.18 22:26
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[NTG-context] Metapost inclusion does not work
Hi,
the following example just prints »Hello World!«, without the square.
What's wrong?
\startuseMPgraphic{test}
fill fullsquare scaled 5cm;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\starttext
Hello World!
\useMPgraphic{test}
\stoptext
ConTeXt ver: 2010.03.20 22:59 MKIV
this is luatex, version beta-0.50.0-2009122419
BTW: The same with luatex 0.52
Thanks in advance.
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Re: [NTG-context] Metapost inclusion does not work
Hi, Do you have all the formats generated? (mptopdf etc.) No. Thanks for the hint (the logfile also told me, I know now). It works now. The problem was that I use a system-wide setup and the $TEXMFCACHE tree was not writable by the users. I now introduced the »chmod« line, see below. I'm not an expert. This is how I update my system. Is this correct? Or can the metafun format also be generated by root, so I can remove the world write access? # sh first-setup.sh --extras=all # . /usr/local/share/context/tex/setuptex # cp luatex-0.52 /usr/local/share/context/bin/luatex # cp luatex-0.52 /usr/local/share/context/tex/texmf-linux/bin/luatex # chmod -R a+rwx /usr/local/share/context/te/texmf-cache # luatools --generate # texhash # context --make # texexec --make $ context test.tex BTW: Can I achieve that the luatex binary will not be overwritten by first-setup.sh? Thanks for your replies. marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Metapost inclusion does not work
Hi Mojca You can most probably do export TEXMFCACHE=~/.context/texmf-cache as well (but then every user would have to generate his own database). OK. That's true. But then I will end up in redundant data. Maybe export TEXMFCACHE=/var/tmp/context/texmf-cache works. Then I have no world write permission in the /usr tree. I'll check it next update. Do you mean because of the old luatex binary (Hans seems to have been a bit busy in the meantime) in linux or is there some other reason? No. The luatex binary is way too old for the »beta« tree. But it's not a real problem as it always can be updated manually. ./first-setup.sh --flags='[you need a pattern to ignore luatex binary when syncing]' This looks nice as a workaround 'till 0.50 will face away. But how will this pattern look like? Kinda regex? The files in question are /usr/local/share/context/bin/luatex /usr/local/share/context/tex/texmf-linux/bin/luatex Thanks for your help and answers. marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] interlinespace in table of content
Hi,
given the following MWE
%%
\setupinteraction [state=start] % OK, if commented out
\setuplayout [grid=yes]% OK, if commented out
\starttext
\completecontent
\dorecurse{3}{
\chapter{chapter}
\section{section}
\subsection{subsection}}
\stoptext
%%
you can see that the interline space in the table of content is too big. If
either the grid or interaction is turned off the result is satisfying. How
can I produce my desired result with both enabled?
Thanks for your help.
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Re: [NTG-context] interlinespace in table of content
\setuplayout [grid=verytolerant] (the struts from the interaction link are getting in the way) Many thanks Taco. Works like a charm now. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] weird en/em dash behaviour
Hi, I've found some in my opinion weird behaviour concerning en/em dashes. Have a look at the following two MWEs. %% \starttext - % shows up -- % missing --- % missing \endash % missing \emdash % missing \stoptext %% %% \setupbodyfont [11.9pt] \starttext - % shows up -- % shows up --- % shows up \endash % shows up \emdash % shows up \stoptext %% Is this expected behaviour? marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] weird en/em dash behaviour
My version: ConTeXt ver: 2010.03.30 18:56 MKIV This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.52.0-2010032402 (rev 3515) marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] weird en/em dash behaviour
Am Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:10:13 +0200 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com: Am 04.04.10 21:04, schrieb Aditya Mahajan: Works here with both MkII and MkIV. But I am using an old version (2010.03.20). Maybe a bug was introduced later? Works here with the latest beta too. Wolfgang 2010.03.20 is OK and latest beta is OK, but my version in between broken? That sounds a bit strange to me. I'll update my minimals this night and check tomorrow. I'm afraid the problem persists. More information tomorrow. Thanks for checking. marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] weird en/em dash behaviour
Am Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:19:49 +0200 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com: Am 04.04.10 21:07, schrieb Marco: My version: ConTeXt ver: 2010.03.30 18:56 MKIV This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.52.0-2010032402 (rev 3515) MTXrun | current version: 2010.03.30 18:56 This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.52.0-2010031913 Mac OS X 10.6.3 Wolfgang OK. The version are the same. I use linux but that should not cause the problem. Maybe something wrong with the fonts? I also have TeXLive installed. marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] weird en/em dash behaviour
Am Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:56:26 +0200 schrieb luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com: OK. The version are the same. I use linux but that should not cause the problem. Maybe something wrong with the fonts? I also have TeXLive installed. same bug here on linux x86 # context --version MTXrun | current version: 2010.03.30 18:56 # luatex --credits This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.0-2010040410 (rev 3588) OK. Then I'm not the only one with this problem. Maybe a platform issue. Or the same misconfiguration as in my case. Don't know. I'm stuck. marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \nocap does not work
Hi,
I wanted to wikify the command »\nocap« and tried it out. But it does
seen to have any effect, see the example from the manual:
\starttext
\cap {People that have gathered their \cap {capital} at the cost of
other people are not seldom \nocap {decapitated} in revolutionary
times.}
\stoptext
The word »decapitated« ist also capitalized.
MTXrun | current version: 2010.04.07
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.0-2010040422
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Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work
With MkIV \cap and \nocap is no longer necessary when you have a opentype font with the smcp (smallcapitals) and c2sc (capitals to smallcapitals) features. Thanks for your explanation. But why doesn't your example work with the latin modern fonts? Don't they have these features? I'd be surprised when they don't have small caps. I'm against wikifying MKII stuff. Maybe I'll add a MKII-only note. When I'm not completely mistaken I think its use should fade away in the near future. So creating documentation for MKII is a waste of time. Why are non-working commands like this not removed in MKIV? An undefined control sequence is easier debuggable than weird behaviour in my opinion. marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \nocap does not work
They don't have a small caps OpenType feature (smcp) for a reason beyond to me, they however have an old-fashioned separate small caps font. this is because they are cm compatible (the initial objective of the project was a merge of all those variants) Thanks for the explanation. I think merging would be the best option. That way we have a modern typeface. Maybe we can carry around the seperate small caps for compatibility. That doesn't seem to harm. marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \hyphenation ignored
Hi,
I've a problem with the command \hyphenation. It does not seem to work for
me. See following MWE:
\mainlanguage [de]
\starttext
\hyphenation{Index-eintrag}
\hyphenatedword{Indexeintrag} % Gives Inde-xein-trag
\stoptext
In this example the word »Indexeintrag« is mishyphenated. I expect to see
»Index-eintrag« as output of \hyphenatedword. The \hyphenation command
seems to be ignored.
Thanks in advance.
Marco
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[NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words
Hi, I've yet another hyphenation problem. I cannot get proper hyphenation in composed words. Take this MWE: \setuplayout [width=1.5cm] \starttext composed-word\par % not hyphenated, as expected composed||word\par % wrong: hyphenated, but an en-dash is used, % not a hyphen, so [sign=wide] seems to be the default composed|-|word\blank % wrong: hyphenated, but the hyphen is at the start of % the next line \setuphyphenmark [sign=normal] % For hyphenation a hyphen is used, % not an endash composed-word\par % not hyphenated, as expected composed||word\par % wrong: hyphen is at the start of the next line composed|-|word % wrong: hyphen is at the start of the next line \blank[2*line] \setbreakpoints [compound] % my workaround composed-word\par % correct hyphenation behaviour with hyphen \stoptext I hope with the comments the problem is clear. At first the default value for »sign« is wrong. It has to be »normal«. But with »normal« I cannot get the hyphen at the end of the line, instead it always appeares at the beginning of the next line. The workaround works but has the disadvantage that everything is hyphenated, everywhere. I prevent this at the moment by using bars: |not-a-composed-word| Thanks in advance Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words
I've yet another hyphenation problem. I cannot get proper hyphenation in composed words. Take this MWE: a mix up of settings .. fized in next beta Thank you. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words
I hope with the comments the problem is clear. At first the default
value for »sign« is wrong. It has to be »normal«. But with »normal«
I cannot get the
hyphen at the end of the line, instead it always appeares at the
beginning of
the next line.
At the moment I use \def\compoundhyphen{-} instead of
\setuphyphenmark. It seems to work (mkii).
Thomas
Yes, it works also in MKIV. This is a better workaround than mine. But
Hans said he'll fix it next beta. So I hope I'll not need it.
Nevertheless thanks for this snippet. It produces exactly the behaviour
I expect.
Marco
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[NTG-context] Switch for sans slanted
Hi,
I've a question concerning switching fonts in setups. How to get a sans
slanted style? Have a look at the following table.
Command Style Comment
\ss sansOK
\bf boldOK
\ssbf sansboldOK
\sl slanted OK
\sssl sansslanted \sssl OK, sansslanted doesn't work
I've made a minimal example to demonstrate how I use the commands.
\starttext
{\setuphead [section] [textstyle=sans] % OK
\section {sans}\input knuth\relax}
{\setuphead [section] [textstyle=bold] % OK
\section {bold}\input knuth\relax}
{\setuphead [section] [textstyle=sansbold] % OK
\section {sansbold}\input knuth\relax}
{\setuphead [section] [textstyle=slanted] % OK
\section {slanted}\input knuth\relax}
{\setuphead [section] [textstyle=sansslanted] % doesn't work
\section {sansslanted}\input knuth\relax}
{\setuphead [section] [textstyle=\sssl] % OK
\section {Command: sssl}\input knuth\relax}
\stoptext
Is there a different command to achieve sansslanted? sansbold works, and
bold is an alternative as slanted is, so intuitively I would expect
sansslanted also to work.
Thanks in advance
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Re: [NTG-context] Switch for sans slanted
Is there a different command to achieve sansslanted? sansbold works, and bold is an alternative as slanted is, so intuitively I would expect sansslanted also to work. \definealternativestyle [sansslanted] [\ss\bf] [] I'm sure you meant \definealternativestyle [sansslanted] [\ss\sl] [] ^^^ This works. So sansbold is defined by default and sansslanted isn't (because it is not needed so often I assume). That's not intuitive but as the styles are easily created it is OK for me. Thanks for the quick reply. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words
On 16-4-2010 4:46, Marco wrote:
Hi,
I've yet another hyphenation problem. I cannot get proper
hyphenation in composed words. Take this MWE:
a mix up of settings .. fized in next beta
Hi Hans,
the following code still produces an en dash instead of a hyphen.
\setuplayout [width=1.5cm]
\starttext
composed||word\par % produces an en dash
\def\compoundhyphen{-}
composed||word\par % workaroud from Thomas, produces hyphen
\stoptext
Using
ConTeXt ver: 2010.05.08
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words
1. || does *not* produce a en-dash but to kerned hyphens You're right, I looked it up in the sources. It just looked like an en-dash for me. But this is wrong. For hyphenation a hyphen is used. The font designer has created a dedicated glyph for this purpose. And two hyphens (or an en-dash) is too large. I've never seen the advice in a typography book to kern two hyphens. I don't know why this is implemented like this. 2. The correct method to get a *normal* hyphen is \setuphyphenmark[sign=normal] Yes, this is the correct method. It should be enabled by default. If somebody wants a larger hyphen (for some mysterious reasen), he/she can set it up with \setuphyphenmark[sign=wide] If the output is not correct it's a bug. Yes, it is a bug. Hans already confirmed and said, he'll fix it, but it is not yet done, that's why I wanted to remember him. You can try and run the example from my first post. With Thomas' workaround the output is OK, but it is only a workaround. I (and probably many other users) would like to have correct behaviour by default. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation of composed words
You're right, I looked it up in the sources. It just looked like an en-dash for me. But this is wrong. For hyphenation a hyphen is used. The font designer has created a dedicated glyph for this purpose. And two hyphens (or an en-dash) is too large. I've never seen the advice in a typography book to kern two hyphens. I don't know why this is implemented like this. because we needed it to be this way: we use it for separating compound words and then we want to have the hyphen between the compounds to be different from the ones within That's not how it is done in everyday typography, seems to be more a border case. .. also, the reason for kerned hyphens instead of an endash is simple: the endash is too thin (at least in lm) That's true. The en-dash is condiderably thinner. this works ok here (and i'm prety sure that it's also ok a few betas ago) \starttext test||test \setuphyphenmark[sign=normal] test||test test|-|test \stoptext Sure, my fault. This works. There _was_ a bug with the hyphen appearing on the start of the next line. This is fixed. Thank you. I thought you would also fix the »wrong« hyphenation sign, so I didn't check, just assumed that both issues aren't fixed. So \setuphyphenmark[sign=normal] works now as expected (even if it's not the default). Thanks for this fix. and the defaults are unlikely to change, but you can set it in your local cont-sys.tex file Ah, I see. I was not aware of a user configuration file (wiki helps how to set it up I just looked). So I can put my »personal« default hyphen there. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
