Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 13:09, Hans Hagen wrote:

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are
missing from the list ...

indeed. mkiv only as i don't want dependencies on perl/ruby in this case


So ... should I start blackmailing with "I'll remove it from minimals
unless it starts supporting mkii" or rather with "I'll tell Jonathan
that your configuration doesn't support XeTeX"? :) :) :) :) :) :)

(Let's leave it up to users to install ruby themselves and it's
totally ok if mkiv stays the default, but I see no reason for not
providing XeTeX and pdfTeX support (with synctex switch on by default)
on purpose ...)


well, it's not that pdftex cq. xetex are not supported, but more that 
mtxrun defaults to luatex / mkiv (just as texexec defaults to pdftex) 
and *i* want to default to luatex (no matter how much you blackmail me)


users can

% engine=pdftex
% engine=xetex

at the top of their document if they want and mtxrun will then run 
texexec instead


if users want syntex on they can enable it with

\synctex=1

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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 13:09, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>> Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are
>> missing from the list ...
>
> indeed. mkiv only as i don't want dependencies on perl/ruby in this case

So ... should I start blackmailing with "I'll remove it from minimals
unless it starts supporting mkii" or rather with "I'll tell Jonathan
that your configuration doesn't support XeTeX"? :) :) :) :) :) :)

(Let's leave it up to users to install ruby themselves and it's
totally ok if mkiv stays the default, but I see no reason for not
providing XeTeX and pdfTeX support (with synctex switch on by default)
on purpose ...)

> (also, once the lua interface of texworks is stable and documented i'll see
> if i can make menus a bit more context friendly; for the moment i misuse the
> typesetting menu for a few 'features')

That's fine for me.

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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 17:05, Hans Hagen wrote:

Yue Wang wrote:

It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or
if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly
complementing the utility programs from TeX Live.

it is just context minimals' extra...
minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt.

there will be a goodies option:

--goodies=scite,texworks,xml,gs


The option --goodies=texworks should work now. Once you run setuptex
(or if you have set the path), you should be able to call just
"texworks filename" from command line.

Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are
missing from the list ...


indeed. mkiv only as i don't want dependencies on perl/ruby in this case

(also, once the lua interface of texworks is stable and documented i'll 
see if i can make menus a bit more context friendly; for the moment i 
misuse the typesetting menu for a few 'features')



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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 17:05, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Yue Wang wrote:
>>>
>>> It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or
>>> if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly
>>> complementing the utility programs from TeX Live.
>>
>> it is just context minimals' extra...
>> minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt.
>
> there will be a goodies option:
>
> --goodies=scite,texworks,xml,gs

The option --goodies=texworks should work now. Once you run setuptex
(or if you have set the path), you should be able to call just
"texworks filename" from command line.

Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are
missing from the list ...

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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 15.06.2009 um 17:05 schrieb Hans Hagen:


it is just context minimals' extra...
minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt.


there will be a goodies option:

--goodies=scite,texworks,xml,gs

but not many more


Is it also possible to change --extras=... to --modules=... (or keep  
extra for old times sake)?


Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

Yue Wang wrote:

It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or
if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly
complementing the utility programs from TeX Live.



it is just context minimals' extra...
minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt.


there will be a goodies option:

--goodies=scite,texworks,xml,gs

but not many more


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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Yue Wang]

> It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or
> if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly
> complementing the utility programs from TeX Live.
>

it is just context minimals' extra...
minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt.

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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

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Yue Wang wrote:
>> the mswincontext zip always provided ruby and gs and as well as xmlproc and
>> xsltproc
>>
>> it's just that now that we have the garden minimals i no longer make my own
>> so making mswincontex makes less sense too
>>
> 
> What about make a mswinbonus.zip for the user who need them,
> like MacTeX shipped its gs/imagemagick...

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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Yue Wang]

> the mswincontext zip always provided ruby and gs and as well as xmlproc and
> xsltproc
>
> it's just that now that we have the garden minimals i no longer make my own
> so making mswincontex makes less sense too
>

What about make a mswinbonus.zip for the user who need them,
like MacTeX shipped its gs/imagemagick...


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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

Yue Wang wrote:

btw, if one uses mkiv, ruby is no longer needed unless one wants to run
specific scripts that are not yet luafied; but then, installing ruby is no
big deal anyway


How about process the mkii document using lua script too? So
eventually we can get rid of ruby and perl.


for that i need to rewrite the index sorting in lua (plus a little bit 
of tui -> tuo handling)



now context script supports --pdftex and --xetex switch, but it still
fall back to texexec and texutils ruby scripts.


sure, time is limited

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Yue Wang]

> btw, if one uses mkiv, ruby is no longer needed unless one wants to run
> specific scripts that are not yet luafied; but then, installing ruby is no
> big deal anyway

How about process the mkii document using lua script too? So
eventually we can get rid of ruby and perl.

now context script supports --pdftex and --xetex switch, but it still
fall back to texexec and texutils ruby scripts.


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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[luigi scarso]

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Mojca Miklavec <
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 19:26, luigi scarso wrote:
> >
> >> The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no
> >> way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic
> >> missing completely ...),
> >
> > hmm strange -- do you have an example ?
>
> For wrong paper orientation you can try (in gnuplot):
>
> set term post
> set output "x.ps"
> plot sin(x)
>
> and then convert the resulting file.

It seems that gnuplot set page orientation,
so best -dAutoRotatePages=/None
gs  -q -dNOPAUSE -dAutoRotatePages=/None  -sDEVICE=pdfwrite
-sOutputFile=x.pdf x.ps -c quit



> For missing graphic I remember
> exporting a file in OpenOffice Draw or something similar. (I can try
> to find it.)
>
Was a fault of OO ?


> > A wrapper shell around gs
> > There is also pstill
> > http://www.wizards.de/~frank/pstill.html
>
> I'll try it out just for fun :)
>
well it's seems not fun at all -- absurde command line.
But it looks like the only ps interpreter alternative of gs on Linux /
Windows  .



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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

luigi scarso wrote:



If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript .
"luafication" will use ghostscript again ?


sure, what else ... actually, pstopdf started out as some perl script long
ago (when we started using pdftex) and we needed it not only in order to
convert to pdf, but also to clean up some mess in eps files that interfered
with the process



So what about a lua wrapper of libgs.so libgs.dll ?
code should be not complicated
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/luatex_lunatic#Ghostscript


because it adds another dependency (dll/lib mess) while using the gs 
program is not much slower anyway


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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 19:26, luigi scarso wrote:
>
>> The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no
>> way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic
>> missing completely ...),
>
> hmm strange -- do you have an example ?

For wrong paper orientation you can try (in gnuplot):

set term post
set output "x.ps"
plot sin(x)

and then convert the resulting file. For missing graphic I remember
exporting a file in OpenOffice Draw or something similar. (I can try
to find it.)

> By defautl gs choose rotation studying dominant text orientation on current
> page; cfr Setting page orientation
> in Ps2pdf.htm
> There is an option in pstopdf -dAutoRotatePages=/None .

Exactly that's the problem. Removing this particular option from the
default options that are applied to GS run solves the problem.

>
>> so I usually stick to ps2pdf (perl or shell,
>> I think)
>
> A wrapper shell around gs
> There is also pstill
> http://www.wizards.de/~frank/pstill.html

I'll try it out just for fun :)

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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[luigi scarso]

>
>
>> If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript .
>> "luafication" will use ghostscript again ?
>>
>
> sure, what else ... actually, pstopdf started out as some perl script long
> ago (when we started using pdftex) and we needed it not only in order to
> convert to pdf, but also to clean up some mess in eps files that interfered
> with the process
>

So what about a lua wrapper of libgs.so libgs.dll ?
code should be not complicated
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/luatex_lunatic#Ghostscript

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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[luigi scarso]

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Mojca Miklavec <
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 17:22, luigi scarso wrote:
> >
> >>> For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :)
> >>> (Had problems with it recently)
> >>
> >> yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of
> >> conversions, auto downsampling, etc)
> >
> > If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript .
> > "luafication" will use ghostscript again ?
>
>

> Unless Hans rewrites the whole GS interpreter ... yes.
>



>
> The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no
> way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic
> missing completely ...),

hmm strange -- do you have an example ?
By defautl gs choose rotation studying dominant text orientation on current
page; cfr Setting page orientation
in Ps2pdf.htm
There is an option in pstopdf -dAutoRotatePages=/None .


so I usually stick to ps2pdf (perl or shell,
> I think)

A wrapper shell around gs

There is also pstill
http://www.wizards.de/~frank/pstill.html


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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 17:22, luigi scarso wrote:

For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :)
(Had problems with it recently)

yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of
conversions, auto downsampling, etc)

If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript .
"luafication" will use ghostscript again ?


Unless Hans rewrites the whole GS interpreter ... yes.

The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no
way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic
missing completely ...), so I usually stick to ps2pdf (perl or shell,
I think) or just call gs manually.


the problem with eps is that there are too many alternatives possible 
(also, versions of gs behave differently); there are actually a coiple 
of options (like cropping, downsampling etc) but as usual those command 
line switches are not documented -)


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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

luigi scarso wrote:

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Hans Hagen  wrote:


Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:


Hello,

For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :)
(Had problems with it recently)


yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of
conversions, auto downsampling, etc)



If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript .
"luafication" will use ghostscript again ?


sure, what else ... actually, pstopdf started out as some perl script 
long ago (when we started using pdftex) and we needed it not only in 
order to convert to pdf, but also to clean up some mess in eps files 
that interfered with the process


there's actually already something mtx-convert but it does not deal with 
eps


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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 17:22, luigi scarso wrote:
>
>>> For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :)
>>> (Had problems with it recently)
>>
>> yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of
>> conversions, auto downsampling, etc)
>
> If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript .
> "luafication" will use ghostscript again ?

Unless Hans rewrites the whole GS interpreter ... yes.

The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no
way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic
missing completely ...), so I usually stick to ps2pdf (perl or shell,
I think) or just call gs manually.

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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[luigi scarso]

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Hans Hagen  wrote:

> Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :)
>> (Had problems with it recently)
>>
>
> yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of
> conversions, auto downsampling, etc)
>

If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript .
"luafication" will use ghostscript again ?



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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:

Hello,

For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :)
(Had problems with it recently)


yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of 
conversions, auto downsampling, etc)


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Hello,

For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :)
(Had problems with it recently)

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Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 2009-06-13 um 04:29 schrieb Yue Wang:


right now the most important thing missing in the distribution is:
gs, ruby, xml stuffs, gzip, zip, and tidy.


of course; at best just include a whole Windows.

No, really, before providing everything in some monster install, better 
provide a Linux VM image.


the mswincontext zip always provided ruby and gs and as well as xmlproc 
and xsltproc


it's just that now that we have the garden minimals i no longer make my 
own so making mswincontex makes less sense too


however, mojca and i are working on a garden based variant (scite and 
texworks)


btw, if one uses mkiv, ruby is no longer needed unless one wants to run 
specific scripts that are not yet luafied; but then, installing ruby is 
no big deal anyway


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Am 2009-06-13 um 04:29 schrieb Yue Wang:


right now the most important thing missing in the distribution is:
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of course; at best just include a whole Windows.

No, really, before providing everything in some monster install,  
better provide a Linux VM image.



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right now the most important thing missing in the distribution is:
gs, ruby, xml stuffs, gzip, zip, and tidy.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
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>> Thanks! I'll play around a bit with TeXWorks and Notepad++.
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Thanks! I'll play around a bit with TeXWorks and Notepad++.

Kevin

2009/6/11 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 

> On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:05:07 -0600, Kevin D. Robbins <
> krobb...@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
>
>  Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support
>> in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to
>> support users who only work on Windows and are not really comfortable using
>> only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test this option.
>>
>
> If you want something really comfortable for Windows users, try the
> Notepad++ setup:
>
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Image:Npp_ConTeXt-Uni.zip
>
> I don't have Vista, which uses a different dir structure for the files, but
> you can easily adopt this as needed.
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:05:07 -0600, Kevin D. Robbins  
 wrote:


Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt  
support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I  
need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really  
comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test  
this option.


If you want something really comfortable for Windows users, try the  
Notepad++ setup:


http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Image:Npp_ConTeXt-Uni.zip

I don't have Vista, which uses a different dir structure for the files,  
but you can easily adopt this as needed.


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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

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TeXworks would be a good choice too, if you want a simple interface that
just works. It can be used as a portable application on windows too, and
I believe it can combined easily with context minimals.


On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:06:31PM -0600, Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
> Well, I and another colleague do use Emacs on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux
> alike. The folks I'm planning to help get started with ConTeXt, though, are as
> intimidated by Emacs as they are by the command line. I'm hoping that Scite
> will feel a bit more natural to them.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Mohamed Bana 
> wrote:
> 
> why not support Emacs?  AucTeX is mature.
> 
> Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
> 
> Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt
> support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I
> need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really
> comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test
> this option.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Hans Hagen  pra...@wxs.nl>> wrote:
> 
>    Carlos Breton Besnier wrote:
> 
>        stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not
> available?
> 
> 
>    no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the
>    minimals as option
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Re: [NTG-context] stand-alone ConTeXt

[Kevin D. Robbins]

Well, I and another colleague do use Emacs on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux
alike. The folks I'm planning to help get started with ConTeXt, though, are
as intimidated by Emacs as they are by the command line. I'm hoping that
Scite will feel a bit more natural to them.

Kevin

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Mohamed Bana
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> why not support Emacs?  AucTeX is mature.
>
> Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
>
>> Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support
>> in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to
>> support users who only work on Windows and are not really comfortable using
>> only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test this option.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Hans Hagen > pra...@wxs.nl>> wrote:
>>
>>Carlos Breton Besnier wrote:
>>
>>stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available?
>>
>>
>>no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the
>>minimals as option
>>
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why not support Emacs?  AucTeX is mature.

Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt 
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need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really 
comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test 
this option.


Kevin

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Carlos Breton Besnier wrote:

stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available?


no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the
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Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support in
minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to support
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command line interface. I'll be happy to test this option.

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stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available?


no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the minimals as 
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On 1/19/06, Miguel Queiros wrote:
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> > http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip
> >
> > Can someone explain to me what this is? If it is downloaded and
> > unzipped, is it ready to go? Is there documentation of this
> > particular zip?

See isoimage\usr\local\context\tex\setuptex.bat:

REM Installatie van Minimal ConTeXt
REM
REM Instellingen ten behoeve van CONTEXT (TEX) installatie.
REM Deze file moet worden aangeroepen in de file
REM "autoexec.bat" die te vinden is onder c:\. Voeg aan die
REM file toe:
REM
REM   call c:\tex\setuptex.bat
...

Haven't you noticed/read this? :)

> > Is there an editor in this zip configured and ready
> > to go?

Scite (as was already described, execute cdemo.bat).

> If you had instaled Miktex on Windows before you should note that
> you might need to take Miktex from your PATH. I had to do it.

No, there's no need to remove MikTeX from PATH. I've put an
"pragmatex.bat" into path with the content (one line only):

C:\context\misc\context\usr\local\context\tex\setuptex.bat
C:\context\misc\context\usr\local\context\tex

I've also written this on
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Windows_Installation, but my edits need
a revision.

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Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Thank you, I'm wikifying that.
see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Windows_Installation


Oh, great if you do it (then I don't need to). Thanks.


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Am 2006-01-19 um 09:35 schrieb Ville Voipio:

Can someone explain to me what this is? If it is downloaded and   
unzipped, is it ready to go? Is there documentation of this   
particular zip? Is there an editor in this zip configured and  
ready  to go?


Here is a step by step of how it should go (i.e. what I did with  
success):


Thank you, I'm wikifying that.
see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Windows_Installation


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Can someone explain to me what this is? If it is downloaded and  
unzipped, is it ready to go? Is there documentation of this  particular 
zip? Is there an editor in this zip configured and ready  to go?


Here is a step by step of how it should go (i.e. what I did with success):

1. Get perl and install it. I use ActivePerl:
 http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/?mp=1

2. Get ruby and install it. I used:
 http://rubyinstaller.rubyforge.org/

3. Check that perl and ruby work. Go to the command prompt (Start -> 
Run... "cmd") and execute the two commands:

 ruby --version
 perl --version
   These should give some information on ruby and perl. It really does 
not matter what they say, as long as the interpreters are found.


4. Download mswincontext.zip

5. Unzip the contents under c:\temp. You should get c:\temp\isoimage.

6. Create a new folder c:\context

7. Copy everything under c:\temp\isoimage into c:\context. There should 
be one folder (/usr) and a few files.


8. Open the folder c:\context and double-click cdemo.bat

9. Now you should see the editor open with a few files. Press F7 to 
compile one of the files. If everything goes smoothly, you are done. If 
not, read these instructions again carefully. If you cannot get it work, 
mail the list.



A few notes on the procedure above:

- perl and ruby per se have nothing to do with ConTeXt, ConTeXt just 
needs them. So, if you have another perl and ruby (e.g. through cygwin), 
they are fine as long as they are in the system path. If you can get 
through step #3 without doing #1 and #2, fine.


- It is up to you to choose the location where you unzip the file in 
step #5, no magic there. Just that you know where the files are.


- The actual location of the ConTeXt in step #6 tree does not matter. I 
use c:\context, but you might use something else. However, I would not 
use anything with a space in the name (e.g. c:\Program Files\context), 
as that may confuse things. (Has anybody tried lately?)


- After you have verified everything works in step #9, you can toss 
cdemo.bat away and use cstart.bat to start everything. Make a link to it 
somewhere so that you can start the system by a shortcut or through the 
Start menu. Do not move the batch script anywhere, it has to be run in 
the root directory of the distribution (e.g. c:\context).


- Make sure you have something Acrobatish installed, otherwise you won't 
see the results in step #9.


Good luck!

- Ville


P.S. Is this information already in the Wiki? I found only some short 
notes, but this might be somehow important for beginners. I can put it 
there if neeeded.

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Re: [NTG-context] Stand alone Context editing environment

[David Arnold]

Hans,

I don't see cdwincontext on

http://pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm

Where can I find it?

On Jan 18, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


All,

At:

http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm

There is:

http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip

Can someone explain to me what this is? If it is downloaded and   
unzipped, is it ready to go? Is there documentation of this   
particular zip? Is there an editor in this zip configured and  
ready  to go?


the slightly bigger variant is cdwincontext, which has also scite  
ruby and perl; if you put that on a windows machine, and run the  
bat file in the root path you have a stand alone environment (in  
projects, this is what we give authors)


Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Stand alone Context editing environment

[Hans Hagen]

David Arnold wrote:


All,

At:

http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm

There is:

http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip

Can someone explain to me what this is? If it is downloaded and  
unzipped, is it ready to go? Is there documentation of this  
particular zip? Is there an editor in this zip configured and ready  
to go?


the slightly bigger variant is cdwincontext, which has also scite ruby 
and perl; if you put that on a windows machine, and run the bat file in 
the root path you have a stand alone environment (in projects, this is 
what we give authors)


Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Stand alone Context editing environment

[Miguel Queiros]

> http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip
> 
> Can someone explain to me what this is? If it is downloaded and  
> unzipped, is it ready to go? Is there documentation of this  
> particular zip? Is there an editor in this zip configured and ready  
> to go?

I'm using it. You just need to install Perl and Ruby.

Take a look at: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2005/014223.html

If you had instaled Miktex on Windows before you should note that
you might need to take Miktex from your PATH. I had to do it.

Miguel Queirós


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Re: [NTG-context] Stand alone Context editing environment

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip


is all that I use. Dump it as C:\ConTeXt

add it to your PATH, or add a

CALL setuptex C:\ConTeXt\tex

to you batch files, editor, whatever, before invoking texexec

read the README

and u're good to go. Just need to be clear on which TeX system gets  
called, which is what


setuptex

does.

Even when I need LaTeX, I just dump the XemTeX files into this tree.

I hope Hans makes an installer for it, so your grandmother can install it  
too!


-))

Best
Idris
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Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

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