Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-12-14 Thread Mohamed Bana

Hi Aditya

Are you aware of this

using
\setupindenting   [big,yes]

in L 263 env-thesis.tex instead of the default;

\setupindenting   [medium,yes]

results in 'Chapters' in the TOC being indented slightly more than
References, Abstract etc.  give it a try, you'll notice that it
protrudes slightly more than the other entries.

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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-12-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Does is make sense to add a keyword all so that
 
 \setupcite[all][...] is equal to
 \setupcite
   [author,authoryear,authoryears,
year,serial,authornum,page,short,type,doi,url,num]
   [...]
 
 
 Also, can we add style and color options to \cite. These can be either
 passed to \setupinteraction in \docite or simply added using attributes
 in the output of \cite.

I certainly don't mind, but I am deep into other stuff right now.
If you have a patch, I can apply that at any time you want. Otherwise,
it will be January before I revisit the bib code.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-12-10 Thread Mohamed Bana

This is very strange, I did a fresh checkout and everything *just* worked.

$ luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.3-2008112812, build unknown
...
$ context --version
MtxRun | main context file: 
/home/mbana/context-minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex

MtxRun | current version: 2008.11.10 21:40



Hopefully this will be my last question; how do you compile individual 
chapters?




Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Mohamed Bana wrote:

sorry about the late reply, my minimals broke so i had to wait for a 
fix.



t-bib-2008.12.01.zip

$ luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.3-2008112812, build unknown

$ context --version
MtxRun | main context file: 
/home/mbana/context-minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex 
MtxRun | current version: 2008.11.10 21:40


http://filebin.ca/jqqekq/thesis.pdf or http://filebin.ca/jqqekq
http://filebin.ca/uhvgex/thesis.log or http://filebin.ca/uhvgex


How are you compiling your files? Use context thesis and not 
texexec --lua thesis (texexec will run bibtex which will overwrite 
the existing bbl file, since you do not have any bib file, the bbl 
file will be empty).


Please note that my latest upload to modules.contextgarden runs
bibtex itself, in mkiv mode.


Ah, so that explains why Mohamed is not getting any citations. I was 
using latest minimals from yesterday which still have t-bib from 
2008.10.27.


Taco, I also have a feature request for the bib module. Currently, 
\setupcite is defined as


\def\dosetupcite[#1][#2]%
  {\ifsecondargument
 \def\dodosetupcite##1{\getparameters[\??pv##1][#2]}%
 \processcommalist[#1]\dodosetupcite
   \else % default case
 \getparameters[\??pv\@@citedefault][#1]%
   \fi }

This means that if I say

\setupcite[compress=no], this option is only passed to the default cite 
command. This means that when interaction is enabled, (and the bibl-* 
file says compress=yes), we get no styles for other cite styles. Does it 
make sense to add a keyword all so that


\setupcite[all][...] is equal to
\setupcite
  [author,authoryear,authoryears,
   year,serial,authornum,page,short,type,doi,url,num]
  [...]


Also, can we add style and color options to \cite. These can be either 
passed to \setupinteraction in \docite or simply added using attributes 
in the output of \cite.


Mohamed, to get the references to work comment

\setupbibtex  [database={IEEEfull,../collection}, sort=author]

in macros.tex and add

\dousepublications[thesis]

You can also use the official way: \usepublications[thesis], but I think 
that this will cause warnings about redefined labels. Perhaps a better 
way would be to change thesis.bbl to say thesis-ref.bbl and then use 
\usepublications[thesis-ref].


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-12-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Mohamed Bana wrote:


This is very strange, I did a fresh checkout and everything *just* worked.


Great. Because I had no idea why it was not working at your end :-)

Hopefully this will be my last question; how do you compile individual 
chapters?



From top directory


context chapters/chapter-01.tex


From the chapters directory


context chapter-01.tex

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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-12-09 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Mohamed Bana wrote:

 No the citations aren't working.

 Am I the only one who thinks ConTeXt needs a extensive set of regression 
 tests?

No, you aren't. But you could be the first one to start worknig on it :) :) :)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-12-09 Thread Mohamed Bana

sorry about the late reply, my minimals broke so i had to wait for a fix.


t-bib-2008.12.01.zip

$ luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.3-2008112812, build unknown

$ context --version
MtxRun | main context file: 
/home/mbana/context-minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex

MtxRun | current version: 2008.11.10 21:40

http://filebin.ca/jqqekq/thesis.pdf or http://filebin.ca/jqqekq
http://filebin.ca/uhvgex/thesis.log or http://filebin.ca/uhvgex

Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Mohamed Bana wrote:


No the citations aren't working.


This is really strange. It is working at my end with the latest version 
of t-bib. Can you send me your log and pdf file.


Am I the only one who thinks ConTeXt needs a extensive set of 
regression tests?


No. We have discussed this extensively in the past. There is also a 
context-test svn repository with a script that can automatically check 
if the pdf output changed with different version. However, it has been 
dormat for about a year now. For more info see


http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Test

and add more tests.



Adiyta, you shouldn't have hard-coded:

./frontmatter.tex:\startcolor[darkred]\titlefont \hskip 1.5em Chapters 
\stopcolor}


Yeah, I know. This was just a quick change, so I did not bother with 
elegance. The proper way of doing it would be to define a titlecolor 
and use that.



Changing L191 env-thesis.tex, has no effect, such as:

\setuplist [chapter][color=darkblue]
\setuplist [Title]  [color=darkblue]

Chapters still comes out as darkred.


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-12-09 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Mohamed Bana wrote:


sorry about the late reply, my minimals broke so i had to wait for a fix.


t-bib-2008.12.01.zip

$ luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.3-2008112812, build unknown

$ context --version
MtxRun | main context file: 
/home/mbana/context-minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex 


MtxRun | current version: 2008.11.10 21:40

http://filebin.ca/jqqekq/thesis.pdf or http://filebin.ca/jqqekq
http://filebin.ca/uhvgex/thesis.log or http://filebin.ca/uhvgex


How are you compiling your files? Use context thesis and not texexec 
--lua thesis (texexec will run bibtex which will overwrite the existing 
bbl file, since you do not have any bib file, the bbl file will be empty).


Please note that my latest upload to modules.contextgarden runs
bibtex itself, in mkiv mode.

Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-12-09 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Mohamed Bana wrote:


sorry about the late reply, my minimals broke so i had to wait for a fix.


t-bib-2008.12.01.zip

$ luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.3-2008112812, build unknown

$ context --version
MtxRun | main context file: 
/home/mbana/context-minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex 
MtxRun | current version: 2008.11.10 21:40


http://filebin.ca/jqqekq/thesis.pdf or http://filebin.ca/jqqekq
http://filebin.ca/uhvgex/thesis.log or http://filebin.ca/uhvgex


How are you compiling your files? Use context thesis and not texexec 
--lua thesis (texexec will run bibtex which will overwrite the existing 
bbl file, since you do not have any bib file, the bbl file will be empty).


Please note that my latest upload to modules.contextgarden runs
bibtex itself, in mkiv mode.


Ah, so that explains why Mohamed is not getting any citations. I was using 
latest minimals from yesterday which still have t-bib from 2008.10.27.


Taco, I also have a feature request for the bib module. Currently, 
\setupcite is defined as


\def\dosetupcite[#1][#2]%
  {\ifsecondargument
 \def\dodosetupcite##1{\getparameters[\??pv##1][#2]}%
 \processcommalist[#1]\dodosetupcite
   \else % default case
 \getparameters[\??pv\@@citedefault][#1]%
   \fi }

This means that if I say

\setupcite[compress=no], this option is only passed to the default cite 
command. This means that when interaction is enabled, (and the bibl-* file 
says compress=yes), we get no styles for other cite styles. Does it 
make sense to add a keyword all so that


\setupcite[all][...] is equal to
\setupcite
  [author,authoryear,authoryears,
   year,serial,authornum,page,short,type,doi,url,num]
  [...]


Also, can we add style and color options to \cite. These can be either 
passed to \setupinteraction in \docite or simply added using attributes in 
the output of \cite.


Mohamed, to get the references to work comment

\setupbibtex  [database={IEEEfull,../collection}, sort=author]

in macros.tex and add

\dousepublications[thesis]

You can also use the official way: \usepublications[thesis], but I think 
that this will cause warnings about redefined labels. Perhaps a better way 
would be to change thesis.bbl to say thesis-ref.bbl and then use 
\usepublications[thesis-ref].


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-12-08 Thread Mohamed Bana

Hi Aditya,

Thanks for getting back to me.

I did a fresh checkout and tried to compile, I uncommented out these 
lines from the beginning of macros.tex.


L3 \setupcolors[state=start]
...
L16 \setupcite  [interaction=start, compress=no,color=] %darkgreen]


L276-278 in env-thesis.tex

\setupinteraction[state=start,style=,color=]
\setupinteraction[focus=standard]


It's still the same;

Multi-agent systems can be classified as teams and games on the basis of 
the ob-
jective of the agents. In teams all agents have the same objective; in 
games, each
agent has its own objective. Historically, games were first studied in 
the seminal
work of and were later developed as a subfield of mathematical economics 
called

game theory (Aumann and Hart, , , ). Teams were first studied in
mathematical economics by and , and later in control systems by , , , , 
and others.


Version:

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.11.30 14:39 MKIV  fmt: 2008.12.1  int: english/english

And have you seen this error;

! LuaTeX error 
...nimals/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/core-syn.lua:71: attempt to 
call field 'process' (a nil value)

stack traceback:
	...nimals/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/core-syn.lua:71: in function 
'process'
	...nimals/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/core-syn.lua:125: in 
function 'process'

main ctx instance:1: in main chunk.
\mkloadsortedlist ...xlua {joblists.process('#1')}
  \getvalue {\s!reset 
#1}\eg...

\doplacelistofsynonyms ... ]\mkloadsortedlist {#1}
  \endgroup 
\ifutilitydone \...

l.162 \placelistofabbreviations


Aditya Mahajan wrote:

Hi Mohamed,

On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Mohamed Bana wrote:


Hi Aditya,

Any news on bib module - t-bib.tex?


Sorry for not replying to your earlier message.


If enable the colouring in cite commands in macros.tex I get;

\setupcite  [interaction=start, compress=no,color=darkgreen]


The current bib module does not support changing the color of links. The 
color=darkgreen was a local change that I did in my copy of t-bib. So, 
color=darkgreen should just be silently ignored. However, compress=no 
does affect the output of the \cite command but I do not understand why 
it changes things like like Aumann and Hart (...) instead of (Aumann and 
Hard, ... ).


Can you try to create a minimal example just using the bib module 
specific setups?


Aditya



Teams and games
Multi-agent systems can be classified as teams and games on the basis of
the ob-
jective of the agents. In teams all agents have the same objective; in
games, each
agent has its own objective. Historically, games were first studied in
the seminal
work of and were later developed as a subfield of mathematical economics
called
game theory (Aumann and Hart, , , ). Teams were first 
studied in

mathematical economics by and , and later in control systems by , , , ,
and others

Instead of;

Teams and games
Multi-agent systems can be classified as teams and games on the basis of
the ob-
jective of the agents. In teams all agents have the same objective; in
games, each
agent has its own objective. Historically, games were first studied in
the seminal
work of von Neumann and Morgenstern () and were later developed as a
sub-
field of mathematical economics called game theory (Aumann and Hart,
, ,
). Teams were first studied in mathematical economics by Radner
() and
Marschak and Radner (), and later in control systems by Witsenhausen
(a,
), Ho et al. (), Ho (), and others.


Obviously I had to move t-bib.tex from the current directory to even get
the it compile.

Thanks
Mohamed

Aditya Mahajan wrote:


* Bibliography. For a large part, the bib module was very easy. In the
end, there were a few glitches with the formatting of the bibliography
(too title space between entries) which I had to manually correct. (Look
for \help inside the bbl file).

  The bbl file sorted authors with multiple entries incorrectly. If I 
had
authors with four publications in a year, say 2000, the came out as 
2000d,

2000c, 2000b, 2000a. I wanted 2000a, 2000b, 2000c, and 2000d, so in the
end I just edited the bbl file by hand.

  There was also problem with maybe year. If I had 2000a and 2000b in 
the

bib file, but only referred to 2000b in the thesis, the year came out as
2000b rather than 2000. For this also, I edited the bbl file by hand.


Overall, ConTeXt made writing the thesis fairly easy. I mean the
typesetting part of it. For those who are wondering, ConTeXt does not 
help
with the content of the thesis :-) I would like to thank Hans and 
Taco for

providing ConTeXt and everyone on the mailing list for answering my
various questions.


Aditya




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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-12-08 Thread Aditya Mahajan

Hi Mohamed,

On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Mohamed Bana wrote:


Hi Aditya,

Thanks for getting back to me.

I did a fresh checkout and tried to compile, I uncommented out these lines 
from the beginning of macros.tex.


L3 \setupcolors[state=start]
...
L16 \setupcite  [interaction=start, compress=no,color=] %darkgreen]


L276-278 in env-thesis.tex

\setupinteraction[state=start,style=,color=]
\setupinteraction[focus=standard]


It's still the same;



I followed the same steps. Downloaded the files from 
http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.tar.gz


unzipped them, removed t-bib.tex from the current directory, made the 
changes indicated by you above, and did context thesis. Everything 
compiles files (there is one warning about Delicious-Bold.otf).



Version:

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.11.30 14:39 MKIV  fmt: 2008.12.1  int: english/english

And have you seen this error;

! LuaTeX error ...nimals/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/core-syn.lua:71: 
attempt to call field 'process' (a nil value)

stack traceback:
	...nimals/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/core-syn.lua:71: in 
function 'process'
	...nimals/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/core-syn.lua:125: in 
function 'process'

main ctx instance:1: in main chunk.
\mkloadsortedlist ...xlua {joblists.process('#1')}
 \getvalue {\s!reset 
#1}\eg...

\doplacelistofsynonyms ... ]\mkloadsortedlist {#1}
 \endgroup \ifutilitydone 
\...

l.162 \placelistofabbreviations


An error like this usually means that luatex or mtxrun is old.

I am using context version  version: 2008.11.10 21:40 (hmmm... that is 
after a fresh update from the minimals, which is strange) and  LuaTeX, 
Version snapshot-0.31.0-2008120715.


I do not know if something broke in a newer version of context, but for 
that I will first need to figure out why my minimals are not being 
updated.


Since I was at it, I redid the local change in t-bib so that I can have 
citations of different colors. Also changed a few other macros, to work 
well with colors (I had stopped playing with colors a while back ...). I 
am uploading the changed files and the typeset pdf file at


http://pantheon.yale.edu/~am894/temp/

Try to download and compile this and see if it works. In the mean time I 
will investigate why minimals aren't being updated on my machine.


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-12-08 Thread Mohamed Bana

No the citations aren't working.

Am I the only one who thinks ConTeXt needs a extensive set of regression 
tests?



Adiyta, you shouldn't have hard-coded:

./frontmatter.tex:\startcolor[darkred]\titlefont \hskip 1.5em Chapters 
\stopcolor}


Changing L191 env-thesis.tex, has no effect, such as:

\setuplist [chapter][color=darkblue]
\setuplist [Title]  [color=darkblue]

Chapters still comes out as darkred.



Aditya Mahajan wrote:

Hi Mohamed,

On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Mohamed Bana wrote:


Hi Aditya,

Thanks for getting back to me.

I did a fresh checkout and tried to compile, I uncommented out these 
lines from the beginning of macros.tex.


L3 \setupcolors[state=start]
...
L16 \setupcite  [interaction=start, compress=no,color=] %darkgreen]


L276-278 in env-thesis.tex

\setupinteraction[state=start,style=,color=]
\setupinteraction[focus=standard]


It's still the same;



I followed the same steps. Downloaded the files from 
http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.tar.gz


unzipped them, removed t-bib.tex from the current directory, made the 
changes indicated by you above, and did context thesis. Everything 
compiles files (there is one warning about Delicious-Bold.otf).



Version:

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.11.30 14:39 MKIV  fmt: 2008.12.1  int: english/english

And have you seen this error;

! LuaTeX error 
...nimals/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/core-syn.lua:71: attempt to 
call field 'process' (a nil value)

stack traceback:
...nimals/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/core-syn.lua:71: in 
function 'process'
...nimals/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/core-syn.lua:125: in 
function 'process'

main ctx instance:1: in main chunk.
\mkloadsortedlist ...xlua {joblists.process('#1')}
 \getvalue {\s!reset 
#1}\eg...

\doplacelistofsynonyms ... ]\mkloadsortedlist {#1}
 \endgroup 
\ifutilitydone \...

l.162 \placelistofabbreviations


An error like this usually means that luatex or mtxrun is old.

I am using context version  version: 2008.11.10 21:40 (hmmm... that is 
after a fresh update from the minimals, which is strange) and  LuaTeX, 
Version snapshot-0.31.0-2008120715.


I do not know if something broke in a newer version of context, but for 
that I will first need to figure out why my minimals are not being updated.


Since I was at it, I redid the local change in t-bib so that I can have 
citations of different colors. Also changed a few other macros, to work 
well with colors (I had stopped playing with colors a while back ...). I 
am uploading the changed files and the typeset pdf file at


http://pantheon.yale.edu/~am894/temp/

Try to download and compile this and see if it works. In the mean time I 
will investigate why minimals aren't being updated on my machine.


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-12-08 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Mohamed Bana wrote:


No the citations aren't working.


This is really strange. It is working at my end with the latest version of 
t-bib. Can you send me your log and pdf file.


Am I the only one who thinks ConTeXt needs a extensive set of regression 
tests?


No. We have discussed this extensively in the past. There is also a 
context-test svn repository with a script that can automatically check if 
the pdf output changed with different version. However, it has been dormat 
for about a year now. For more info see


http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Test

and add more tests.



Adiyta, you shouldn't have hard-coded:

./frontmatter.tex:\startcolor[darkred]\titlefont \hskip 1.5em Chapters 
\stopcolor}


Yeah, I know. This was just a quick change, so I did not bother with 
elegance. The proper way of doing it would be to define a titlecolor 
and use that.



Changing L191 env-thesis.tex, has no effect, such as:

\setuplist [chapter][color=darkblue]
\setuplist [Title]  [color=darkblue]

Chapters still comes out as darkred.


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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-12-06 Thread Mohamed Bana
Hi Aditya,

Any news on bib module - t-bib.tex?

If enable the colouring in cite commands in macros.tex I get;

\setupcite  [interaction=start, compress=no,color=darkgreen]

Teams and games
Multi-agent systems can be classified as teams and games on the basis of 
the ob-
jective of the agents. In teams all agents have the same objective; in 
games, each
agent has its own objective. Historically, games were first studied in 
the seminal
work of and were later developed as a subfield of mathematical economics 
called
game theory (Aumann and Hart, , , ). Teams were first studied in
mathematical economics by and , and later in control systems by , , , , 
and others

Instead of;

Teams and games
Multi-agent systems can be classified as teams and games on the basis of 
the ob-
jective of the agents. In teams all agents have the same objective; in 
games, each
agent has its own objective. Historically, games were first studied in 
the seminal
work of von Neumann and Morgenstern () and were later developed as a 
sub-
field of mathematical economics called game theory (Aumann and Hart, 
, ,
). Teams were first studied in mathematical economics by Radner 
() and
Marschak and Radner (), and later in control systems by Witsenhausen 
(a,
), Ho et al. (), Ho (), and others.


Obviously I had to move t-bib.tex from the current directory to even get 
the it compile.

Thanks
Mohamed

Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 
 * Bibliography. For a large part, the bib module was very easy. In the 
 end, there were a few glitches with the formatting of the bibliography 
 (too title space between entries) which I had to manually correct. (Look 
 for \help inside the bbl file).
 
   The bbl file sorted authors with multiple entries incorrectly. If I had 
 authors with four publications in a year, say 2000, the came out as 2000d, 
 2000c, 2000b, 2000a. I wanted 2000a, 2000b, 2000c, and 2000d, so in the 
 end I just edited the bbl file by hand.
 
   There was also problem with maybe year. If I had 2000a and 2000b in the 
 bib file, but only referred to 2000b in the thesis, the year came out as 
 2000b rather than 2000. For this also, I edited the bbl file by hand.
 
 
 Overall, ConTeXt made writing the thesis fairly easy. I mean the 
 typesetting part of it. For those who are wondering, ConTeXt does not help 
 with the content of the thesis :-) I would like to thank Hans and Taco for 
 providing ConTeXt and everyone on the mailing list for answering my 
 various questions.
 
 
 Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-12-06 Thread Aditya Mahajan

Hi Mohamed,

On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Mohamed Bana wrote:


Hi Aditya,

Any news on bib module - t-bib.tex?


Sorry for not replying to your earlier message.


If enable the colouring in cite commands in macros.tex I get;

\setupcite  [interaction=start, compress=no,color=darkgreen]


The current bib module does not support changing the color of links. The 
color=darkgreen was a local change that I did in my copy of t-bib. So, 
color=darkgreen should just be silently ignored. However, compress=no does 
affect the output of the \cite command but I do not understand why it 
changes things like like Aumann and Hart (...) instead of (Aumann and 
Hard, ... ).


Can you try to create a minimal example just using the bib 
module specific setups?


Aditya



Teams and games
Multi-agent systems can be classified as teams and games on the basis of
the ob-
jective of the agents. In teams all agents have the same objective; in
games, each
agent has its own objective. Historically, games were first studied in
the seminal
work of and were later developed as a subfield of mathematical economics
called
game theory (Aumann and Hart, , , ). Teams were first studied in
mathematical economics by and , and later in control systems by , , , ,
and others

Instead of;

Teams and games
Multi-agent systems can be classified as teams and games on the basis of
the ob-
jective of the agents. In teams all agents have the same objective; in
games, each
agent has its own objective. Historically, games were first studied in
the seminal
work of von Neumann and Morgenstern () and were later developed as a
sub-
field of mathematical economics called game theory (Aumann and Hart,
, ,
). Teams were first studied in mathematical economics by Radner
() and
Marschak and Radner (), and later in control systems by Witsenhausen
(a,
), Ho et al. (), Ho (), and others.


Obviously I had to move t-bib.tex from the current directory to even get
the it compile.

Thanks
Mohamed

Aditya Mahajan wrote:


* Bibliography. For a large part, the bib module was very easy. In the
end, there were a few glitches with the formatting of the bibliography
(too title space between entries) which I had to manually correct. (Look
for \help inside the bbl file).

  The bbl file sorted authors with multiple entries incorrectly. If I had
authors with four publications in a year, say 2000, the came out as 2000d,
2000c, 2000b, 2000a. I wanted 2000a, 2000b, 2000c, and 2000d, so in the
end I just edited the bbl file by hand.

  There was also problem with maybe year. If I had 2000a and 2000b in the
bib file, but only referred to 2000b in the thesis, the year came out as
2000b rather than 2000. For this also, I edited the bbl file by hand.


Overall, ConTeXt made writing the thesis fairly easy. I mean the
typesetting part of it. For those who are wondering, ConTeXt does not help
with the content of the thesis :-) I would like to thank Hans and Taco for
providing ConTeXt and everyone on the mailing list for answering my
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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-09-29 Thread Mikael Persson
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mikael Persson wrote:

 The thesis is available at

 maybe we should collect such links on a wiki page

 http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/mp-thesis-final.pdf

 and a short presentation of the third paper

 http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/pres.pdf

 Some comments:
 * At our university the thesis should be printed on the (not really
 standard) G5 paper. No problem in defining and using it with ConTeXt.

 just curious ... is it used more often or just at your universiy; it's
 no problem to add an extra papersize definition

 * The bibliography uses Taco's module. I am happy of being able to
 have different bibliographies in one file.
 * As a mathematician I was a bit tired of the computer modern fonts (I
 really like them, but I see them to often), so I decided to go with
 the utopia/fourier fonts. This forced me to work with mkii, since I
 did not get these fonts to work with mkiv (This is still a problem, I
 am not sure how to go on with it for future documents).

 looks quite nice, i also like the font size

 * Typesetting math worked very smoothly. There is one place where I
 hade to add some negative vertical space (I could not reproduce this
 in a minimal file).
 * I'm very happy with the way MetaPost and ConTeXt work together.
 * The presentation is inspired by Thomas A. Schmitz' files at
 http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2006-2/schmitz/ (thanks!)
  
 * The presentation uses Wolfram's Mathematica fonts which I find being
 very clear.

 looks nice indeed; are there open type variants of those?


By the way, the Mathematica fonts can be downloaded from (type1 and ttf)
http://support.wolfram.com/mathematica/systems/windows/general/latestfonts.en.html
I'm not sure if that is helpful for anyone, since there are no metric
files or whatever (they go with the TeX tree that is shipped with
Mathematica)

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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-09-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I finished my thesis, writing both my thesis and my presentation using 
 ConTeXt.

congratulations!

 Thesis: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.pdf

impressive and it also looks nice (the large interline spacing even 
looks ok -)

 Source: 
 http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.tar.gz
 
 Presentation: 
 http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis-presentation.pdf
 
 Overall it was a pleasant experience, but there were some difficulties. I 
 am summarizing my experience here. Hopefully, others will find it useful.
 
 * Layout and Formatting: It was extremely simple to set up the layout and 
 formatting according to the thesis specifications. Due to the ease of 
 changing formatting, I experimented quite a bit with the formatting before 
 settling down to what is in the thesis (The school wanted nothing 
 fancy).

at least they gave you the freedom to play with fonts

 * Organizing large projects: The product-component structure made it easy 
 to work on single chapters. However, I could not get correct numbering for 
 the components (If I compiled chapter-02, it got numbered 1). In the end, 
 I was just compiling the whole thesis at the time, since it was pretty 
 fast (~10 sec).

there is a \setuphead[chapter][file=..] option which should do the job 
(remin dme to implement that in the upcoming mkiv sectioning mechanisms 
as well)

 * Fonts: Using different fonts with MKIV was really easy. For the 
 presentation, I did have some trouble in getting Euler to work with the 
 minimals. Hopefully, this will be corrected soon.

indeed; anyhow, your thesis proofs that luatex can be used for real 
production

 * Math: The math alignments worked very nicely, but I had to do a lot of 
 manual tweaking at a lot of places. Also, equations seem to like to have a 
 tendency of starting on a new page. I tried changing penalties for 
 predisplay and postdisplay (which are set to zero), but it invariably led 
 to bad page breaks at other places.
 
   At some places, the equation overlapped with the previous material. I am 
 not sure what was causing this (medium interline spacing, wrong 
 calculation of the width of the previous line, or something else). In the 
 end, I simply put a few manual \break[small] here and there.

in mkiv we can redo the before/after math spacing because there we have 
the control that we wanted

   Being able to write unicode math made simplified reading math markup.
 
 * Metapost: TeX-MP interaction is fast and easy. However, debugging 
 metapost errors is difficult because context does not stop compiling on 
 encountering a metapost error.

ok, remind me to implement a 'show error when mp fails' mechanism (we 
may need a way to trigger tex's error mode then from within luatex then; 
somethin gis possible now but a bit hackery)

 * Bibliography. For a large part, the bib module was very easy. In the 
 end, there were a few glitches with the formatting of the bibliography 
 (too title space between entries) which I had to manually correct. (Look 
 for \help inside the bbl file).
 
   The bbl file sorted authors with multiple entries incorrectly. If I had 
 authors with four publications in a year, say 2000, the came out as 2000d, 
 2000c, 2000b, 2000a. I wanted 2000a, 2000b, 2000c, and 2000d, so in the 
 end I just edited the bbl file by hand.
 
   There was also problem with maybe year. If I had 2000a and 2000b in the 
 bib file, but only referred to 2000b in the thesis, the year came out as 
 2000b rather than 2000. For this also, I edited the bbl file by hand.

i like the bibliography layout

 Overall, ConTeXt made writing the thesis fairly easy. I mean the 
 typesetting part of it. For those who are wondering, ConTeXt does not help 
 with the content of the thesis :-) I would like to thank Hans and Taco for 
 providing ConTeXt and everyone on the mailing list for answering my 
 various questions.

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-09-28 Thread Mikael Persson
Wow, that looks very nice!

I hope you do not feel I am stealing your thread now (I do not mean
to). I did also finish my thesis (in mathematics) recently, written
in ConTeXt. For this I had a lot of help with your doc Using
\startalign and friends, thank you.

The thesis is available at

http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/mp-thesis-final.pdf

and a short presentation of the third paper

http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/pres.pdf

Some comments:
* At our university the thesis should be printed on the (not really
standard) G5 paper. No problem in defining and using it with ConTeXt.
* The bibliography uses Taco's module. I am happy of being able to
have different bibliographies in one file.
* As a mathematician I was a bit tired of the computer modern fonts (I
really like them, but I see them to often), so I decided to go with
the utopia/fourier fonts. This forced me to work with mkii, since I
did not get these fonts to work with mkiv (This is still a problem, I
am not sure how to go on with it for future documents).
* Typesetting math worked very smoothly. There is one place where I
hade to add some negative vertical space (I could not reproduce this
in a minimal file).
* I'm very happy with the way MetaPost and ConTeXt work together.
* The presentation is inspired by Thomas A. Schmitz' files at
http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2006-2/schmitz/ (thanks!)
* The presentation uses Wolfram's Mathematica fonts which I find being
very clear.

I will happily continue to use ConTeXt in future projects.

/Micke P

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I finished my thesis, writing both my thesis and my presentation using
 ConTeXt.

 Thesis: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.pdf

 Source:
 http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.tar.gz

 Presentation:
 http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis-presentation.pdf

 Overall it was a pleasant experience, but there were some difficulties. I
 am summarizing my experience here. Hopefully, others will find it useful.

 * Layout and Formatting: It was extremely simple to set up the layout and
 formatting according to the thesis specifications. Due to the ease of
 changing formatting, I experimented quite a bit with the formatting before
 settling down to what is in the thesis (The school wanted nothing
 fancy).

 * Organizing large projects: The product-component structure made it easy
 to work on single chapters. However, I could not get correct numbering for
 the components (If I compiled chapter-02, it got numbered 1). In the end,
 I was just compiling the whole thesis at the time, since it was pretty
 fast (~10 sec).

 * Fonts: Using different fonts with MKIV was really easy. For the
 presentation, I did have some trouble in getting Euler to work with the
 minimals. Hopefully, this will be corrected soon.

 * Math: The math alignments worked very nicely, but I had to do a lot of
 manual tweaking at a lot of places. Also, equations seem to like to have a
 tendency of starting on a new page. I tried changing penalties for
 predisplay and postdisplay (which are set to zero), but it invariably led
 to bad page breaks at other places.

  At some places, the equation overlapped with the previous material. I am
 not sure what was causing this (medium interline spacing, wrong
 calculation of the width of the previous line, or something else). In the
 end, I simply put a few manual \break[small] here and there.

  Being able to write unicode math made simplified reading math markup.

 * Metapost: TeX-MP interaction is fast and easy. However, debugging
 metapost errors is difficult because context does not stop compiling on
 encountering a metapost error.

 * Bibliography. For a large part, the bib module was very easy. In the
 end, there were a few glitches with the formatting of the bibliography
 (too title space between entries) which I had to manually correct. (Look
 for \help inside the bbl file).

  The bbl file sorted authors with multiple entries incorrectly. If I had
 authors with four publications in a year, say 2000, the came out as 2000d,
 2000c, 2000b, 2000a. I wanted 2000a, 2000b, 2000c, and 2000d, so in the
 end I just edited the bbl file by hand.

  There was also problem with maybe year. If I had 2000a and 2000b in the
 bib file, but only referred to 2000b in the thesis, the year came out as
 2000b rather than 2000. For this also, I edited the bbl file by hand.


 Overall, ConTeXt made writing the thesis fairly easy. I mean the
 typesetting part of it. For those who are wondering, ConTeXt does not help
 with the content of the thesis :-) I would like to thank Hans and Taco for
 providing ConTeXt and everyone on the mailing list for answering my
 various questions.


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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-09-28 Thread Mohamed Bana
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I finished my thesis, writing both my thesis and my presentation using 
 ConTeXt.
 
  Aditya

:).  But there's a still something missing that I need before I even 
thinking of typesetting an msc thesis in ConTeXt.   I'd like to have 
something equivelant to the *listings.sty* package; 
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/15591/focus=15592 or 
http://vega.soi.city.ac.uk/~abbg770/listing-sample.pdf.


I setup listing first;

\lstset{breaklines=true,
showlines=true, % showing line numbers
numbers=left,   % where to show line numbers
numberstyle=\tiny\color{gray},  
numbersep=10pt, %
stepnumber=1,   % how often to show the line number on the left
language=Java,  % specifiy the language
basicstyle=\ttfamily\small,  % print whole listing small
keywordstyle=\color{eclipsekeyword}\ttfamily\underbar, % underlined bold 
black keywords
identifierstyle=,   % nothing happens
commentstyle=\color{eclipsecomment}, % white comments, if you use 
commentstyle=\color{white},
stringstyle=\ttfamily,  % typewriter type for strings
showstringspaces=false, % no special string spaces
frame=single,
backgroundcolor=\color{white},
tabsize=4,
showspaces=false,
showstringspaces=false} 

\lstset{morecomment=[s][\color{eclipsejavadoc}]{/**}{*/}}


Includes a file, look at Listing B.2 on the pdf I posted.  This should 
be self explanatory;

\lstinputlisting[
caption={SpreadsheetParser.java},
label=lst:SpreadsheetParser.java]
{source/SpreadsheetParser.java}



I can also list inline using the same settings defined in \lstset - but 
it doesn't break across lines.  The choice of charater is arbitrary 
i.e., I could have chosen to use | instead of !;

\lstinline!matcher(CharSequence input)!



Similar to preceeding, with line breaking.  Also I can refer to it 
using; \ref{lst:freeformlogfile}

\begin{lstlisting}[frame=,label={lst:freeformlogfile},caption={Log File}]
import java.util.Arrays;

public class ArrayReallocationDemo {

   public static void main(String[] args) {
 int[] data1 = new int[] { 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 };

 printArray(data1);
 int[] data2 = Arrays.copyOf(data1, 6);
 data2[5] = 11;
 printArray(data2);

 int[] data3 = Arrays.copyOfRange(data1, 2, 10);
 printArray(data3);
   }

   // print array elements
   private static void printArray(int[] data) {
 StringBuilder stringBuilder = new StringBuilder([);
 for (int i = 0; i  data.length; i++) {
   stringBuilder.append(data[i]);
   if (i  data.length - 1)
 stringBuilder.append(, );
 }
 stringBuilder.append(]);
 System.out.println(stringBuilder);
   }
}
\end{lstlisting}


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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-09-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Mikael Persson wrote:

 The thesis is available at

maybe we should collect such links on a wiki page

 http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/mp-thesis-final.pdf
 
 and a short presentation of the third paper
 
 http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/pres.pdf

 Some comments:
 * At our university the thesis should be printed on the (not really
 standard) G5 paper. No problem in defining and using it with ConTeXt.

just curious ... is it used more often or just at your universiy; it's 
no problem to add an extra papersize definition

 * The bibliography uses Taco's module. I am happy of being able to
 have different bibliographies in one file.
 * As a mathematician I was a bit tired of the computer modern fonts (I
 really like them, but I see them to often), so I decided to go with
 the utopia/fourier fonts. This forced me to work with mkii, since I
 did not get these fonts to work with mkiv (This is still a problem, I
 am not sure how to go on with it for future documents).

looks quite nice, i also like the font size

 * Typesetting math worked very smoothly. There is one place where I
 hade to add some negative vertical space (I could not reproduce this
 in a minimal file).
 * I'm very happy with the way MetaPost and ConTeXt work together.
 * The presentation is inspired by Thomas A. Schmitz' files at
 http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2006-2/schmitz/ (thanks!)
 
 * The presentation uses Wolfram's Mathematica fonts which I find being
 very clear.

looks nice indeed; are there open type variants of those?


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV

2008-09-28 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, Mikael Persson wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mikael Persson wrote:

 The thesis is available at

 maybe we should collect such links on a wiki page

 good idea

These could also be useful for the regression test suite for ConTeXt.

 http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/mp-thesis-final.pdf

 and a short presentation of the third paper

 http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/pres.pdf

Look very nice and professional.

 Some comments:
 * As a mathematician I was a bit tired of the computer modern fonts (I
 really like them, but I see them to often), so I decided to go with
 the utopia/fourier fonts. This forced me to work with mkii, since I
 did not get these fonts to work with mkiv (This is still a problem, I
 am not sure how to go on with it for future documents).

 looks quite nice, i also like the font size

 Thanks. What about getting these fonts to work in mkiv? Must there be
 some change in the fonts? Some files in ConTeXt? (they were perfectly
 working in older mkii)

Fourier and Uptopia should work with mkiv. I will check why they are not 
working at present.

Aditya
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