RE: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-20 Thread Ken Schaefer
. Cheers Ken From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of kz2...@googlemail.com Sent: Thursday, 20 June 2013 1:13 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette I'm sick of them. I went to an office once

Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-20 Thread Jonathan Link
: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette ** ** I'm sick of them. I went to an office once to start a contract, after resigning my old one, to find out it was actually an interview. I've seen them pull so many stunts it's unbelievable. I'm chasing one through the courts now for seven

Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-20 Thread Jonathan Link
: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *kz2...@googlemail.com *Sent:* Thursday, 20 June 2013 1:13 AM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette ** ** I'm sick of them. I went to an office once to start a contract, after resigning my

[NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-19 Thread Don Kuhlman
Morning all.  Just curious as to thoughts from some colleagues in the field. Say you were in a job as a contractor at a smaller firm, and the job was supposed to convert to full time in a few months, but that didn't happen.   However, your contract is extended several times so you are still at

Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-19 Thread Erik Goldoff
and two weeks notice is more than gracious for leaving a job. Employers are not obligated to let you work out the entire two weeks, and in cases of layoffs/RIFs, you would likely not be given two weeks notice either. Kudos to you for wanting to do right by your current employer considering

Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-19 Thread William Robbins
My advice: Say nothing to current employers, ever. Especially in a situation where they won't commit to converting you to an FTE. *After* you get an offer, in writing, from new place then you meet with your current manager and explain that you had hoped to have been converted to an FTE by now,

Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-19 Thread Don Kuhlman
Wow - mind if I ask about what happened ? From: kz2...@googlemail.com kz2...@googlemail.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette There isn't any loyalty around

Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-19 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote: Morning all. Just curious as to thoughts from some colleagues in the field. Say you were in a job as a contractor at a smaller firm, and the job was supposed to convert to full time in a few months, but that didn't

Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-19 Thread William Robbins
. Much appreciated! Don K -- *From:* Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Sent:* Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:56 AM *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette It’s not easy

RE: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-19 Thread Guyer, Don
.2B822470] From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Don Kuhlman Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:44 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette Seems like a pain having to be in that spot

RE: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-19 Thread David Lum
...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of William Robbins Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:15 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette I'd caution you against that. It sounds nice, and may look good on your bank statement

Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-19 Thread William Robbins
*Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette ** ** I'd caution you against that. It sounds nice, and may look good on your bank statement. But it will wear you down faster than you think. You won't be giving your best effort to either company in that scenario. I advise

Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-19 Thread William Robbins
@lists.myitforum.com *ReplyTo: * ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject: *Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette My advice: Say nothing to current employers, ever. Especially in a situation where they won't commit to converting you to an FTE. *After* you get an offer, in writing, from new place

Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-19 Thread Andrew S. Baker
You share nothing -- this is business, not friendship. Never confuse the two. *And if the new gig was a go, they want an immediate start time (within 2 weeks) because their outsourced people doing the support are going to be gone in that time. However, you are working on finishing up projects

Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

2013-06-19 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Of *Don Kuhlman *Sent:* Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:52 AM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette ** ** Morning all. Just curious as to thoughts from some colleagues in the field. ** ** Say you were in a job as a contractor