Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Re adding ooo-dev@ since this is STILL an AOO issue. On Aug 27, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Aug 27, 2012, at 8:56 AM

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: After this, please drop general@ On Aug 27, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: A signature does 2 things: 1. Ensures that no bits have been changed 2. That the bits come from a known (and trusted

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Bullshit. The policy is as old as the org itself and applies equally The problem is that when someone questions what the policy is, as several IPMC members have already, the response goes no further than yelling that

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
audiences with totally different fields of applicability. - Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Help with 3.4.1 announcement questions on blog

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
By default blog questions are held for moderation. I just checked and we had quite a few comments. I let the non-spam ones through: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing_apache_openoffice_3_41#comments I responded to one, but since there are a few of them I could use some help

AOO and Code Signing

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
Changing the subject to something more accurate due to thread drift. On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Aug 27, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Identity != Trust. Identity + Reputation == Trust. The signature only guarantees

Re: Help with 3.4.1 announcement questions on blog

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 1:43 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 13:22 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: By default blog questions are held for moderation. I just checked and we had quite a few comments. I let the non-spam ones through: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry

Re: AOO and Code Signing

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Aug 27, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: People trust the Apache brand. They download Apache stuff from somewhere. That stuff is signed by an entity that is associated with the Apache brand

CVE-2012-2665 Manifest-processing errors in Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 CVE-2012-2665 Manifest-processing errors in Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 Reference: http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-2665.html Severity: Important Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation Versions Affected: Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0,

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Moving back to AOO lists These argument is a waste of everyones time. It seems to me that what is/is not permissible is clear, indeed has been clear for some time.the summary is... Patches welcome. Clear to

Re: [WWW]Some trouble with the new URLs for the forums

2012-08-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:31 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Adding to the (lack of) redirection problem between the old and the new URL expressed on other threads, there are other problems reported by users. The first one is that forum notifications still arrive with only the old URL.

Re: [WWW]Some trouble with the new URLs for the forums

2012-08-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:03 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/26 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:31 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Adding to the (lack of) redirection problem between the old and the new URL expressed on other threads, there are other

Re: svn commit: r1377482 - /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/external_deps.lst

2012-08-26 Thread Rob Weir
n Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: - Original Message - On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, We need to do more work to have proper compliance with Apache Infrastructure policy in managing external

Re: svn commit: r1377482 - /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/external_deps.lst

2012-08-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 26, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, We need to do more work to have proper compliance with Apache Infrastructure policy

Re: AOO long-term support ?

2012-08-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I wonder if the ´new management´ at AOO ;) has any plans with regards to ´long term support´ for AOO?. We've discussed this topic previously. You'll read more if you search the list archives for LTS. IMHO the

Re: svn commit: r1377482 - /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/external_deps.lst

2012-08-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: BTW, - Original Message - ... This is already part of the current process. The signatures are in download_external_dependencies.pl. The Central Maven Repository uses these as well. Those are MD5 hashes, not

Re: The translation of AOO3.4.1 release notes and announcement

2012-08-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 21/08/2012 Sylvain DENIS wrote: I translated the text AOO 3.4.1 French. I would put online after the official version. Thanks, I've committed this to the French site using the naming conventions currently used

Re: The translation of AOO3.4.1 release notes and announcement

2012-08-25 Thread Rob Weir
the translation and than I'll send it to you. Excellent! -Rob Jürgen Am 25.08.2012 20:31, schrieb Rob Weir: On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Jürgen Lange j...@juergen-lange.de wrote: Hi Rob, I can't find a german announcement. On http://www.openoffice.org/de/ I see a link

Re: proposed new directory structure for future releases

2012-08-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/25/2012 01:28 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 23/08/2012 22:06, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Also IMHO no need to separate between the languages. Furthermore, when you have to check for a potential error, then you you just

Re: Extension downloading problem

2012-08-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: Has anyone inspected the MIME Type returned? If it is not a proper one for OXT then it is possible that IE8 is doing detection of the type. I had different results than Dave's, and I concluded I

Re: How many AOO 3.4.1 downloads?

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: Rob Might we have a count of AOO 3.4.1 downloads in first 24 hours? No need for fancy graphics - a list would be OK. First, you need to know that the SF numbers are daily numbers, and based on a UTC day. Since we

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 7:23 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 August 2012 11:51, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:31:05 +0100 sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 August 2012 09:20, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:01:42 -0400

Re: [Discuss] Triage of Brainstorming

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: In due course, when we've all had a little rest after the release of AOO 3.4.1, it will be necessary to do some triage work on the Brainstorming, so that the most requested changes make their way onto the planning table

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:29:57 -0400 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: I use AVG 2012.0.2180 Free Edition I installed AOO 3.4.1 on one of my Windows machines today and AVG didn't complain. I'll check in detail

Re: Extension downloading problem

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:17:57 +0100 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug

Re: CMS diff: AOO 3.4.1å ‘è¡Œè¯´æ˜Ž

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
2012/8/24 Michal Hriň michalh...@aol.com: This patch (translation) wants to be applied to main (en-US) page. Will be reverted. Right. It should be placed in the specific NL directory. Either zh-tw or zh-cn (I'm not sure which it is). -Rob Michal Hriň Dňa Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:00:27 +0200

Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Hello All; I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release Notes at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template. I like it. It did not apply in 3.4.1

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:44:34 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:29:57 -0400 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote

Re: How many AOO 3.4.1 downloads?

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:45:18 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: Rob Might we have a count of AOO 3.4.1 downloads in first 24 hours

Re: BAD link

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 02:18:22PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I was too fast and should have read the thread completely. I can't remember the reason why I left out the en-US lang packs, we should check if they

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: update on the current status ...

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, as the so called release manager I would like to give an update where we are with the release and the final release preparation. You all know we passed the PPMC and IPMC vote successful, the first important

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce the immediate availability of Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1, the latest release of the free and open community-developed productivity suite. This maintenance release builds upon the success of Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0, which has been downloaded over

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: update on the current status ...

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, as the so called release manager I would like to give an update where we are with the release and the final release preparation. You all know

[DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
Now that the community graduation ballot has passed, one of our next tasks is to identify a PMC Chair. You can read about the duties of a PMC Chair here: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair How do we want to do this? A strawman proposal: 1) Nominations would be open for 72 hours. Anyone

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
to that, what the specific responsibilities of the Chair are and what the special standing of the Chair is so its accountability can be carried out. Indeed. That is why my 2nd sentence was to point to a link that describes exactly this. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:36 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process Now that the community graduation ballot has passed, one of our next tasks is to identify a PMC Chair. You can

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: I'm not comfortable having a PMC Chair election and nomination on ooo-dev. It appears the IPMC was able to do this for their own Chair. I also agree

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 23, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I suggest that the initial Project Management Committee (PMC) needs to be identified

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
votes. -Rob - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:30 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil

Re: The translation of AOO3.4.1 release notes and announcement

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:08 PM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2012/08/22 11:24, Albino B Neto said: Hi 2012/8/21 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:18 AM, eric wu jinjin...@cs2c.com.cn wrote: ok,thank you for your suggestion,now i will prepare for my

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
, what the duties of PMC members are and, with respect to that, what the specific responsibilities of the Chair are and what the special standing of the Chair is so its accountability can be carried out. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw

Re: proposed new directory structure for future releases

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:37 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/23 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com: Way back in late April, Juergen proposed a new directory structure for release packs than what we have now which is essentially: /stable/VERSION/en-US items /localized/lang

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: update on the current status ...

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: RGB ES wrote: 2012/8/23 Rory O'Farrellofarr...@iol.ie: Announced on the en-Forum and by PM to the Volunteers. Announced on ES forums. IT forums are not working... As discussed in other threads, the IT forum now

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Weir
Stefan Taxhet : st PPMC Malte Timmermann : malte PPMC Zhe Wang : wangzcdl PPMC Rob Weir : robweir PPMC Oliver-Rainer Wittmann : orw PPMC Jian Fang Zhang : zhangjf PPMC Xia Zhao : lilyzhao PPMC -Original Message- From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com] Sent

Re: svn commit: r829379 - in /websites/production/ooo-site: cgi-bin/ content/

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:54 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 August 2012 07:05, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: sebb wrote: On 21 August 2012 22:23, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Why? Could very well have a publish all changes mode (the current only option) alongside the cherry

Re: Help us brainstorm ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
1,852 votes until now Juergen On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 x-apple-data-detectors://82, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: Back to the topic... :) The page looks great! I submitted 1 UI proposal and voted

Re: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
Schmidt wrote: On 8/21/12 7:51 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/21/12 5:45 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: FYI we have passed the vote on general@incubator. We can now proceed with the release preparation ... I am waiting

Re: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/22/2012 06:15 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 08/21/2012 02:46 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/21/2012 11:16 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 08/21

Re: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Michal Hriň michalh...@aol.com wrote: Dňa Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:40:05 +0200 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org napísal: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/22/2012 06:15 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 08/21/2012 02:46 PM

Re: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/22/2012 10:18 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/22/2012 06:15 PM, schrieb

Re: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
So some possible confusion coming. I'm seeing a few websites have already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org. Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet. For example this article is being spread via Twitter:

Re: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: So some possible confusion coming. I'm seeing a few websites have already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org. Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1

Re: BAD link (was: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2_

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: So some possible confusion coming. I'm seeing a few websites have already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users

Re: BAD link

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
tests. All is working fine so far. Jürgen Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drewd...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: So some possible confusion coming. I'm seeing a few websites have already announced 3.4.1

[VOTE][RESULTS] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
The community vote has passed. Vote reference: http://s.apache.org/5GA +1 RGB-ES Rory O'Farrell Carl Marcum Reizinger Zoltan Keith N. McKenna Kay Schenk Roberto Galoppini Imacat Andrea Pescetti Regina Henschel Graham Lauder Jürgen Lange T.J. Frazier Rob Weir Dave Fisher Peter Junge Christian

Re: BAD link

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/23/2012 01:26 AM, schrieb drew: On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 01:16 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/23/2012 12:54 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM, drewd...@baseanswers.com wrote: One more

Re: BAD link

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/23/2012 12:41 AM, schrieb drew: OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far The Mac en_US language pack points to: http

Re: Need to Revisit RAT Excludes and Wildcards

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Folks, We are really getting ahead of ourselves. We have a legitimate -1 IPMC vote on our release, it might get changed - Marvin asked for confirmation that the IPMC votes are based only on the official SOURCE

Re: BAD link

2012-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 08:36:56PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: We'll nede Juergen to upload that and SF to copy it. With the time zone difference (Hamburg versus California) this will not happen quickly

Re: Re: The translation of AOO3.4.1 release notes and announcement

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:18 AM, eric wu jinjin...@cs2c.com.cn wrote: ok,thank you for your suggestion,now i will prepare for my translations! And the announcement blog post draft is here: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=announcing_apache_openoffice_3_41 Regards, -Rob

Help us brainstorm ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
As we perform the final preparations to release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 it is a good time to look ahead to the future. A big opportunity is OpenOffice 4.0. That once seemed so very far away, but 2013 is getting closer every day. Will it be a large collection of small ideas? Will it have a

Re: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/21/12 5:45 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: FYI we have passed the vote on general@incubator. We can now proceed with the release preparation ... I am waiting on the ok of infrastructure to start the upload, will

Re: What to say in AOO 3.4.1 release announcement about the ports? (BSD, Solaris, OS/2)?

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I agree that we should have some mention of other versions or distributions that are based on AOO code, even if they are not strictly ports. The question is where to mention them? So far only

Fwd: Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 announcement

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
Forwarded with permission of the author. I corrected the English version. Translators should take note. -Rob -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Naber na...@danielnaber.de Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:07 PM Subject: Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 announcement To: robw...@apache.org

Re: What to say in AOO 3.4.1 release announcement about the ports? (BSD, Solaris, OS/2)?

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I agree that we should have some mention of other

Re: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/21/12 9:19 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 8/21/12 7:51 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/21/12 5:45 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: FYI we have

Re: Social integration for Apache OpenOffice 4.0

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Phillip Rhodes motley.crue@gmail.com wrote: Per Rob's email about the Help us brainstorm ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0 I was perusing the Google Moderator doc[1] and came across this suggestion: Provide social capabilities within core editors to share

Re: Help us brainstorm ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Back to the topic... :) The page looks great! I submitted 1 UI proposal and voted for some others... So far: 117 people have submitted 103 ideas and cast 902 votes -Rob - Simon 2012/8/22 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

Re: [ooo-site]

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Wilson Goh w...@allot.com wrote: Hello webmaster, there is a broken link, http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe/download Aside from the error, why is the error page

Re: [ooo-site]

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
I placed an outage notice on the download page, to let visitors know they don't need to report the issue. -Rob On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Wilson Goh w...@allot.com wrote: Hello webmaster, there is a broken link, http

Unable to download OpenOffice via SourceForge

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
Hi Dave, Roberto's probably long asleep at this hour, so I hope you can pass this on to someone at SourceForge who might be still up in California. We're seeing widespread download errors when downloading OpenOffice. There was probably some prep work going on to get ready for the 3.4.1 release

Re: Stop-Motion Calc

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: And what do you think, Rob? You started this topic. Your comment? Is this what you want? ^_*' I think it is really cool. I volunteered to do a blog post on this, and I will. But I don't want it to be lost

Re: [DRAFT] AOO 3.4.1 Release Announcement for Review

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=announcing_apache_openoffice_3_4 Comments are welcome. Some updates I know we'll need are: 1) The 11 million downloads claim will go to 12 or 13 depending on when we

draft graduation resolution

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
I put a draft of the graduation resolution onto the wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Graduation+Resolution+%28draft%29 As you can see, there is absolutely nothing interesting here yet. I started with the Velocity graduation resolution and replace Velocity with

Re: svn commit: r829379 - in /websites/production/ooo-site: cgi-bin/ content/

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: We were supposed to wait to publish. Author: pescetti Date: Sun Aug 19 15:08:26 2012 New Revision: 829379 What did I publish? If it was only (like the diff showed)

Re: Need to Revisit RAT Excludes and Wildcards

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Folks, We are really getting ahead of ourselves. Not really. It is not like issues like this are going to be found by sitting here and not pushing the code our further. Every new class of testers will find a new

Re: What to say in AOO 3.4.1 release announcement about the ports? (BSD, Solaris, OS/2)?

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Kay Schenk wrote: So, I think the second column on the porting page should be removed entirely. I feel winPenPack is a distribution and not a port, and therefore this would go as well. (I need to look again to see

Re: Need to Revisit RAT Excludes and Wildcards

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hi; - Original Message - ... Ditto. This is our code, the source is there, with Apache headers. The pre-built JAR at worst is redundant. I don't see a policy issue here.

Re: [DISCUSS]: I would like to propose a new conversion mode parameter

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, OpenOffice is not only used as desktop application but also as hidden part of other software and often as a conversion engine in the backend. OpenOffice has very good filters for many file formats and the usage

Re: Need to Revisit RAT Excludes and Wildcards

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: - Original Message - ... Hi Folks, We are really getting ahead of ourselves. I think so too :(. We have a legitimate -1 IPMC vote on our release, it might get changed - Marvin asked for confirmation that

Re: Need to Revisit RAT Excludes and Wildcards

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: - Original Message - Marvin's intervention is very far reaching indeed. It pretty much supports the position that there is no such thing as a binary release, and it involves some issues that have to be

A reminder on release timing and announcements

2012-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
A quick reminder, also of benefit to new members of the project, and all those observers/lurkers on the list. A release for a podling at Apache has a two-stage voting process: 1) The release is first approved by the Podling Project Management Committee, in a 72-hour vote. This completed

Re: CMS diff: Why OpenOffice.org: Public administrations

2012-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
Let's be careful. Don't we already have some announcement changes on staging? If so we can bring this change as well onto staging, but we should avoid publishing, since that is all-or-nothing, and we don't want to put the announcement changes out yet. -Rob On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:28 AM,

Re: [DISCUSS] AOO Ready to Graduate

2012-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 2:43 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 17/08/2012 Rob Weir wrote: We've had several prods from our mentors suggesting that we are ready to graduate. I agree it would be good to do so, since it will automatically reduce complex and unclear terminology

[VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC endorsement, and then to the ASF Board for

[VOTE][DISCUSS] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
Please vote in the main [VOTE] thread, and have discussion in this thread. Thanks! -Rob

Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
consuming role, but it can become so on occasion. This query should not prevent the community expressing their opinion in the vote. I just wanted to let you know why I will be abstaining. You only need my vote when it comes to the actual graduation vote. Ross On Aug 19, 2012 4:53 PM, Rob Weir robw

Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
initially? So is there anything on that list that you think needs Mentor attention? Anything else in the status file? -Rob Thanks Regards, Dave [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html Ross On Aug 19, 2012 4:53 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Please vote

Re: What to say in AOO 3.4.1 release announcement about the ports? (BSD, Solaris, OS/2)?

2012-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
So it looks like we're ending up with two related pages, both now in staging: This page describes the porting work in the project, including work-in-progress as well as work that has already lead to a release: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/porting/index.html And this page lists only ports

Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: I'm unable to vote either way until: A) a PMC chair has been identified by the community

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting

Re: CMS diff: Why OpenOffice.org: Public administrations

2012-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
other committers that it is OK to commit your changes and get them onto the staging server, but to wait for publishing them. -Rob - Shenfeng 2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Let's be careful. Don't we already have some announcement changes on staging? If so we can bring this change

Re: What to say in AOO 3.4.1 release announcement about the ports? (BSD, Solaris, OS/2)?

2012-08-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:51 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Sat, 2012-08-18 at 08:48 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/18/2012 06:38 AM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna: Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/02/2012 02:12 AM

Re: What to say in AOO 3.4.1 release announcement about the ports? (BSD, Solaris, OS/2)?

2012-08-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/18/2012 02:48 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/18/2012 06:38 AM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna: Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/02/2012 02:12 AM

Re: [Announcing Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1]

2012-08-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:51 AM, Asghar Rahmani as...@gmx.de wrote: Hello everybody Encouraging News! Many thanks. A few comments to this Ammounce : 1. About the 3. link, which refers to downloading the AOO 3.4.1: On the download page I can only find the

[DISCUSS] AOO Ready to Graduate

2012-08-17 Thread Rob Weir
We've had several prods from our mentors suggesting that we are ready to graduate. But I think there was general recognition that with graduation comes a little hump in extra work, both for the project as well as the IPMC and Infra, especially related to mailing list and website changes [1]. We

Re: Extend release vote till after testing? (was: Re: [QA Report]AOO 3.4.1 RC2 rev 1372282 Test Report(w/o long run testing))

2012-08-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: Hi, My recollection is that the email for voting on the release said the vote would run till tomorrow - but it sounds like formal testing is not finished till Monday. Should the final vote not wait till after the testing is

Re: Extend release vote till after testing? (was: Re: [QA Report]AOO 3.4.1 RC2 rev 1372282 Test Report(w/o long run testing))

2012-08-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 12:02 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: Hi, My recollection is that the email for voting on the release said the vote would run till tomorrow

Re: [RELEASE]: release preparation

2012-08-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Jürgen, On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 01:35:34PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, as you have probably noticed I have started a VOTE for our AOO 3.4.1

Re: [RELEASE]: release preparation

2012-08-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Jürgen, On Thu, Aug 16, 2012

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