Re: Targeted Donations?

2011-09-13 Thread Fernand Vanrie
Ross , Is there a policy for paid bug repair ? Greetz Fernand On 12 September 2011 19:56, FR web forumooofo...@free.fr wrote: Hello, If AOOo did this, it would be completely new (and IMHO the Board would have to agree to it). My query is just to have a formally answer to give at our

Re: visibility and credibility of the OpenOffice.org brand.

2011-09-13 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: [this email was prompted by a private communication relating to the OOo brand and calling for mentors to take action. I think it is important so I've stripped the original mail and brought it public for discussion]

Re: [PROPOSAL] turn off mail address mangling at Gmane

2011-09-13 Thread Michael Stahl
On 13.09.2011 02:57, NoOp wrote: On 09/09/2011 02:25 AM, Michael Stahl wrote: On 05.09.2011 13:20, Michael Stahl wrote: thus i propose to disable the address mangling at Gmane. If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72 hours then I will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to

Re: Umbrella projects

2011-09-13 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Eike Rathke o...@erack.de wrote: Hi Simon, On Monday, 2011-09-12 13:31:13 +0100, Simon Phipps wrote: The reality is likely to be somewhere in-between. For example, the PT-BR localisation of OOo was the subject of extensive discussion in Portuguese about

Re: Umbrella projects

2011-09-13 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 09/13/2011 11:46 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Eike Rathkeo...@erack.de wrote: Hi Simon, On Monday, 2011-09-12 13:31:13 +0100, Simon Phipps wrote: The reality is likely to be somewhere in-between. For example, the PT-BR localisation of OOo was the subject

Build AOOo on Ubuntu 11

2011-09-13 Thread Chao Huang
./bootstrap. I want to know whether there are all 3rd part softwares or not. Thanks! --- dmake has been successfully built dmake copied to /opt/apache/build/aoo.20110913/ooo/main/solenv/unxlngi6/bin/dmake found wget

Re: PLEASE STOP RE: svn commit: r795631 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg:

2011-09-13 Thread TJ Frazier
Hi, Dennis, On 9/12/2011 22:37, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I want to connect some dots between terms-of-use and licenses. The terms-of-use, such ashttp://openoffice.org/terms_of_use, linked at the bottom of the OpenOffice.org pages do not provide a license to those pages. The terms of use

Re: PLEASE STOP RE: svn commit: r795631 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg:

2011-09-13 Thread Thorsten Behrens
TJ Frazier wrote: Absent information to the contrary, it is entirely reasonable to assume that the authors were Sun/Oracle employees, doing their jobs. That is not accurate. For example the German pages have been (mostly) under the curation of the German volunteer community. Whether

Re: Is there anything we can do to make AOOo code more usable by LibreOffice?

2011-09-13 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:46:21 -0500 Alexandro Colorado jza-jnqqrfibojom4zkihc2...@public.gmane.org wrote: Right now there are talks about dropping all alternative formats and becoming an ODF only editor. Provide a link please. Otherwise this statement is just unfounded FUD. Best, Bjoern --

Re: PLEASE STOP RE: svn commit: r795631 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg:

2011-09-13 Thread drew
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 13:23 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: TJ Frazier wrote: Absent information to the contrary, it is entirely reasonable to assume that the authors were Sun/Oracle employees, doing their jobs. That is not accurate. For example the German pages have been (mostly) under

Re: [PROPOSAL] Set up of ooo-general-ja at incubator.apache.org WAS [PROPOSAL] Set up of ooo-dev-ja at incubator.apache.org

2011-09-13 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi all, Thanks. I have invoked Lazy Consensus and filed an issue. http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3926 The list has been created. :) Is there any documentation or page which list moderators should read and understand to manage and moderate a list? Thanks, khirano

Re: Build AOOo on Ubuntu 11

2011-09-13 Thread Raphael Bircher
been successfully built dmake copied to /opt/apache/build/aoo.20110913/ooo/main/solenv/unxlngi6/bin/dmake found wget: wget found md5sum: md5sum 48a9f787f43a09c0a9b7b00cd1fddbbf-hyphen-2.7.1.tar.gz 2011-09-13 16:26:15 URL:http://hg.services.openoffice.org/binaries/48a9f787f43a09c0a9b7b00cd1fddbbf

Re: [PROPOSAL] Set up of ooo-general-ja at incubator.apache.org WAS [PROPOSAL] Set up of ooo-dev-ja at incubator.apache.org

2011-09-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Thanks. I have invoked Lazy Consensus and filed an issue. http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3926 The list has been created. :) Is there any documentation or page which list moderators should read

RE: PLEASE STOP RE: svn commit: r795631 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg:

2011-09-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Hi TJ, Thanks for the observations about the web pages. I have little doubt about the way the static pages of the web were produced. For the record, 1. I am not confusing the wiki with the web. The pages I gave as examples were web pages, not wiki pages, and the terms of use are at the

Re: visibility and credibility of the OpenOffice.org brand.

2011-09-13 Thread John Viestenz
snipped from Juergen Schmidt : Besides all areas where the community can be active, the most important thing is to provide a stable and good product that people can easy use without problems and that is sufficient for their daily work and that can solve their daily problems. Speaking as an OOo

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Donald Whytock
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: The current committers are not equipped to fully resource the migration of OpenOffice.org sites and services under Apache OOo incubation.  Preservation of the Wiki is in doubt because of resource and support

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 9/13/11, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: The current committers are not equipped to fully resource the migration of OpenOffice.org sites and services under Apache OOo incubation. Preservation of the

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I have posted a draft for review on the wiki and below.  Changes and improvements can be made on the Wiki page.  If you propose to modify the page, please make it known here so that collisions can be avoided.

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Donald Whytock
I'd like to suggest this be more detailed, so it's clear where the problems are. That way it's easier to determine what ASF can provide that isn't provided already. The current committers are not equipped to fully resource the migration of OpenOffice.org sites and services under Apache OOo

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 13, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I have posted a draft for review on the wiki and below. Changes and improvements can be made on the Wiki page. If you propose to modify the page, please make it

Re: Umbrella projects

2011-09-13 Thread Andrew Rist
On 9/13/2011 2:46 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Eike Rathke o...@erack.de wrote: Hi Simon, On Monday, 2011-09-12 13:31:13 +0100, Simon Phipps wrote: The reality is likely

RE: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
orcmid I've responded to your questions in-line. /orcmid With regard to detail, this is probably the longest report already. For context, look at the complete set of reports so far, http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2011. They tend to the terse. Previous monthly reports since the

RE: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Resource is energy, time, and skills I think. And also, having the necessary authorizations to work on the parts needing attention. It is probably an over-used term. Suggestions? -Original Message- From: Donald Whytock [mailto:dwhyt...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011

RE: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I wondered about Issues too. There were similar issues in the previous report (although the full title had not been used). I added the title that was called for, because it is about awareness, not requests for action, on the notion that when the podling recognizes this, the IPMC and Board

RE: Problem using Java for integration from JBoss 5.1

2011-09-13 Thread Herter, Scott
The problem is that we were not using Saxon to begin with, it is something in the OpenOffice 3.3 jars that is causing this. Unfortunately I have been unable to find anything that says you only need jars x,y, and z in order to use the UNO API from Java to OpenOffice so we just dumped all of

RE: Problem using Java for integration from JBoss 5.1

2011-09-13 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; I think JBoss is trying to use saxon but the version in OpenOffice conflicts with what JBoss expects. Installing the complete saxon may work but maybe it's a CLASSPATH issue and reinstalling JBoss does the trick. It's not an issue to be solved in this list though, except for reminding us to

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Resource is energy, time, and skills I think.  And also, having the necessary authorizations to work on the parts needing attention. It is probably an over-used term. Suggestions? Needing attention is a curious

RE: Problem using Java for integration from JBoss 5.1

2011-09-13 Thread Herter, Scott
Thanks, that at least gives me a clue. As for the list, I looked around, there isn't much here yet so this seemed the best fit. Are there other lists that would be better or is the project not quite that far along yet? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Pedro F. Giffuni

Re: Problem using Java for integration from JBoss 5.1

2011-09-13 Thread Dave Fisher
Sometimes individuals on the Apache Tomcat users list will reluctantly answer questions about JBoss. Not so reluctantly on classloading. http://tomcat.apache.org/lists.html#tomcat-users Try the archives first. Regards, Dave On Sep 13, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Herter, Scott wrote: Thanks, that at

RE: Problem using Java for integration from JBoss 5.1

2011-09-13 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; ooo-users@ may be more appropriate although I admit that type of questions may not be that easy to solve there either :(. Perhaps on the JBoss lists ... cheers, Pedro. --- On Tue, 9/13/11, Herter, Scott scott.her...@napersoft.com wrote: Thanks, that at least gives me a clue. As for

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 13, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: The code base pulled over from OpenOffice.org is undergoing development while incompatible notices remain on the granted code. This is separate from the scrubbing of dependencies on incompatibly-licensed material. RECOMMENDATION:

Re: Targeted Donations?

2011-09-13 Thread Ross Gardler
On 13 September 2011 08:23, Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be wrote: Is  there a policy for paid bug repair ? Yes. The ASF does not pay for code development. There is nothing stopping someone doing something outside the ASF as long as it conforms to the trademark rules and contributions are handled

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:16:55 -0700: orcmid I've responded to your questions in-line. /orcmid With regard to detail, this is probably the longest report already. For context, look at the complete set of reports so far,

[LINUX-BUILD] Follow up on last week's developer education event

2011-09-13 Thread Rob Weir
Any observations on the Linux build event we had last week? From technical perspective, I think it worked well. We got several people verifying the build instructions, and found a few corrections. Nothing earth shattering, but it was a start. Remember to update the build guide with anything new

RE: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks Daniel, that is very interesting material. It is very clear that a one-sentence report is not acceptable [;). There are also some other tips to be gleaned from the Committee Reports section. (Be careful with abbreviations; have no external links, etc.) I notice that this material runs

RE: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The buildfest was mentioned. I forgot what it was called while I was writing, though. The issue you are pointing at is about the code base (ooo/trunk), not the web site. I don't understand putting accomplishments in the issues section. If you see more for Community and Project progress, I

RE: [proposal][www][lazy] Apache CMS Site for the OpenOffice.org Website Migration

2011-09-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Dave, I think this is a great idea. Since this site might be exactly what is needed to serve up as OpenOffice.org from Apache infrastructure, I suggest that there not be a production target, but just a staging target that can be viewed and reviewed in testing but not published. The

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 17:01:14 -0700: Thanks Daniel, that is very interesting material. It is very clear that a one-sentence report is not acceptable [;). There are also some other tips to be gleaned from the Committee Reports section. (Be careful with

Is there any rules to use third party library/software in AOOo?

2011-09-13 Thread Shao Zhi Zhao
hi, all I'm a new comer in this community. Very glad to see you through mail list. I am counting the third party libraries in Aooo, Is there any license/copyright rule for the third party library/software in AOOo? thanks mail:zhaos...@cn.ibm.com