Re: Editorial Calendar for the project Blog

2011-09-27 Thread Rob Weir
here, I'll propose that we delete the blog altogether. So far, its existence has received more note in the press for lack of updates than for any content there. I'd rather have no blog if we can't do better than that. -Rob On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote

Re: Editorial Calendar for the project Blog

2011-09-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Sep 28, 2011 3:06 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: So total silence.  Is that the best we can come up with? One problem is that what

Re: Editorial Calendar for the project Blog

2011-09-28 Thread Rob Weir
2011/9/28 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: So total silence.  Is that the best we can come up with? hopefully not I'll sign up for the next post, planning on one related to the IP review of AOOo, to give

Re: [build] Who does frequently builds and on wich Systems?

2011-09-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Hi at all To ensure that the code is buildable on any System, we should have frequently builds on any system. I ask here who does frequently builds, and on wich system. Normaly I make one build per day if I see same

Re: [patch] Removal of Windows build requirement on unicows.dll - issue 88652

2011-09-28 Thread Rob Weir
- From: Michael Stahl [mailto:m...@openoffice.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 15:50 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [patch] Removal of Windows build requirement on unicows.dll - issue 88652 On 27.09.2011 22:22, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Dennis E

Re: [legal] How to clarify, if usage of Boost C++ source libraries is allowed

2011-09-28 Thread Rob Weir
: [legal] How to clarify, if usage of Boost C++ source libraries is allowed Hi, here is the link to the submitted JIRA issue - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-101 Best regards, Oliver. On 27.09.2011 14:59, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:       On 27.09.2011 14:16, Rob Weir

Re: Bugzilla e-mail is bouncing and other e-mail issues

2011-09-28 Thread Rob Weir
, there was never discussion on this list about requesting it. The discussion about the Bugzilla notification bouncing was in a thread called Bugzilla e-mail is bouncing and other e-mail issues, starting on Sept 5th. -Rob On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Follow up to my

Re: Not new but under a new hat

2011-09-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: It is still early enough to reunify the code base and use the well known brand OpenOffice for a binary release. It would be the best choice for our users. Please correct me if

Re: Iaccessible2 in OOo

2011-09-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 09/27/2011 08:58 PM, schrieb Jean-Philippe MENGUAL: Hi Jean-Philippe, As ordinary blind user, I work very much to promote OOo and accessibility free software for blind people. The current problem is that public

Re: Not new but under a new hat

2011-09-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 September 2011 13:45, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: It is still early enough to reunify the code

Re: Not new but under a new hat

2011-09-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: If TDF wants to take the AOOo source code and build it, with or without enhancements, and release it under the name LibreOffice for use with Linux distros, then they are welcome to do that.  They need no additional

Re: Editorial Calendar for the project Blog

2011-09-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 28, 2011, at 4:34 AM, Rob Weir wrote: 2011/9/28 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: So total silence.  Is that the best we can come up

Re: my next (tiny) steps - clean up regarding stuff which is not conform to the Apache license

2011-09-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: If you mean ODMA.h, I don't believe there is any dependency on it and you should just get rid of it. If you need to deal with it as third-party code, I can get you a version with a BSD-variant license that

Re: A systematic approach to IP review?

2011-09-28 Thread Rob Weir
@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: A systematic approach to IP review? On 19.09.2011 02:27, Rob Weir wrote: 1) We need to get all files needed for the build into SVN.  Right now there are some that are copied down from the OpenOffice.org website during the build's bootstrap process.   Until we get the files

Re: A systematic approach to IP review?

2011-09-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Let me recall the bidding a little here.  What I said was It is unlikely that machine-generated files of any kind are copyrightable subject matter. You point out that computer-generated files might

Re: hwpfilter/source/ksc5601.h - header from GNU c library

2011-09-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, the low-hanging fruits are hanging quite high ;-) Thus, as given at [1], we can get file ksc5601.h from [2] under a Apache permissive license. Unfortunately, the provided file [3] does not contain a

Re: hwpfilter/source/ksc5601.h - header from GNU c library

2011-09-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote: Hi Oliver; --- On Thu, 9/29/11, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: ... Thanks for the input. Adding the URL for the origin of the copyright and license text is a good idea. I will add it and use it also to point to

How do we want to announce new Committers/PPMC members

2011-09-29 Thread Rob Weir
A recent press article suggested that this project had not had any new committers since the project started. This is false. But it would be hard to tell that, looking at our mailing list or website. So far we've been quiet about new committers. We have the votes, process the paper work, etc.,

Re: Forums not reachable

2011-09-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 29, 2011, at 1:54 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:00:04 +0200 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: snipped - synopsis of the proposed move of forums to Apache It is is still a

Re: [DISCUSS] Is it worth looking at Confluence Wiki Again?

2011-09-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:33 AM, TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote: On 9/27/2011 20:37, TJ Frazier wrote: On 9/27/2011 17:03, Rob Weir wrote: snip I'm assuming this is the link: http://ooo-wiki.apache.org/wiki/Wiki/statistics That should be a good assumption, but no. It's busted

Re: How do we want to announce new Committers/PPMC members

2011-09-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Sep 29, 2011 6:01 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: A recent press article suggested that this project had not had any new committers since

Re: How do we want to announce new Committers/PPMC members

2011-09-29 Thread Rob Weir
, documentation, suggestions, and criticism. [1] So all committers are contributors, but not all contributors are (yet) committers. [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles [2] http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html Don On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Rob Weir

Re: [DISCUSS] Having New Committers also be on the PPMC

2011-09-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: It has been the practice, thus far, that all newly-invited committers are invited to also be on the Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC). Some decline being on the PPMC, some accept, some accept but don't

Re: [DISCUSS] Having New Committers also be on the PPMC

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:15:52 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: snip By my count we have 72 committers right now, almost all of them also PPMC members.  With the new IBMers coming on board, as well as possibly

Re: [DISCUSS] Having New Committers also be on the PPMC

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: What is the actual current harm you are seeking to correct, Rob? I had assumed this sort of lock-down would wait until graduation from the incubator once it was clear what worked and what didn't. Simon, I'm a PPMC

Re: [DISCUSS] Having New Committers also be on the PPMC

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 30 Sep 2011, at 15:58, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: What is the actual current harm you are seeking to correct, Rob? I had assumed this sort of lock-down

Re: [DISCUSS] Having New Committers also be on the PPMC

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 30 Sep 2011, at 16:06, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 30 Sep 2011, at 15:58, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Simon Phipps si

Re: [DISCUSS] Having New Committers also be on the PPMC

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 30, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 30 Sep 2011, at 15:58, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Simon Phipps si

Re: Top posting is bad

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: The assumption behind this recommendation seems to be that all mail clients are the same and the list is read the same by everyone.

Re: [DISCUSS] Having New Committers also be on the PPMC

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: BTW, LO/TDF has a steering committee of what?  13 people total?  Have you recommending to them that they put their entire elected membership

Re: [DISCUSS] Having New Committers also be on the PPMC

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Weir
a different solution to the same problem? Or a different problem altogether? If the former, then what went wrong there that leads Simon to make a different recommendation for AOOo? -Rob Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Sep 30, 2011 6:28 PM, Rob Weir robw

Re: [DISCUSS] Having New Committers also be on the PPMC

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 30 Sep 2011, at 18:47, Rob Weir wrote: I agree let's not make it adversarial.  But I would be interested to know why Simon speaks up in favor of us have a congress-sized PMC, I said nothing of the kind, please stop

Re: [DISCUSS] Having New Committers also be on the PPMC

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 30 Sep 2011, at 19:15, Rob Weir wrote: We have never adopted a formal position of having everyone be a committer and PPMC member.  So if we did not change anything, we would still not have such a policy. I'm

Re: [DISCUSS] Having New Committers also be on the PPMC

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 30 Sep 2011, at 19:15, Rob Weir wrote: We have never adopted a formal position of having everyone be a committer and PPMC member.  So if we did

new committer: Pedro Giffuni

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Weir
The Apache OOo PPMC announces the addition of committer Pedro Giffuni: pfg @ apache.org. The list of all current podling committers is at: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo Being a committer enables easier contribution to the project since there is no need to go via the

Re: ODF and HTML 5

2011-10-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: There has been a proposal to try and get ODF recognised as an official extension of HTML5. On the face of it it sounds a good idea but I don't know enough about the details or whether this is already in progress. I guess it

Re: Vulnerability fixed in LibreOffice

2011-10-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote: Good morning, TDF has published a fix for LibO: http://wp.me/p1byPE-bQ Do you know if OOo is impacted too? Thank you Possibly, but without details it is hard to tell. But please note that although the LO press release

Re: ooo-general-ja mailing list settings

2011-10-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3926 ooo-general-ja/AT/incubator.apache.org was created. Thanks! 2 Japanese moderators and 2 Japanese volunteer testers are testing the list.

Re: Impress ;-) about AOOo

2011-10-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am invited to a presentation of AOOo in southwest Germany, later this month. Is there already a presentation of AOOo about people, goals, strategies, roadmap, etc.? Maybe Don has something from the Oxford

Re: [DISCUSS] Publishing the PPMC Roster

2011-10-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I notice that it is possible to know who are the PMC members of a top-level project (although it takes some work). I have not found any visible place where Incubator PPMC rosters can be found automatically. I think

Re: Vulnerability fixed in LibreOffice

2011-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote: Hi Rob, On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 15:26 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: Reading binary file formats, including the legacy MS Office formats, is notoriously difficult to do robustly.        Agreed. 2) That security reports

Re: Vulnerability fixed in LibreOffice

2011-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:45:34 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Security reports come from security reporters.  Can you tell us whether Red Hat, Inc. security researcher Huzaifa Sidhpurwala is a TDF member

Re: Vulnerability fixed in LibreOffice

2011-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 10 Oct 2011, at 12:45, Rob Weir wrote: No objections if you want to start a separate invitation-only security discussion list.  It would probably get some use.  But we'll continue to ask for security reports to come

Re: Volume Issue

2011-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
server.  I don't know if OpenOffice 3.3 is eating up Windows Desktop Heap and a faster rate than OpenOffice 2.4.  I will have to get a Windows 2003 Server VM going at some point to check that out. -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, October 09

Re: [DISCUSS] Publishing the PPMC Roster

2011-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: orcmid note=Responses to Rob's questions in-line / -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 17:48 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS

Re: Vulnerability fixed in LibreOffice

2011-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Yes.  I've read all the emails from last week. Please can you answer my question, then, I am not interested in your argument with Meeks. I've

Re: [DISCUSS] Publishing the PPMC Roster

2011-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Rob Weir wrote on Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 09:10:27 -0400: we're supposed to subscribe to that list using our Apache alias. Untrue. Of course it is true. If you don't subscribe with something that is in the alias

Re: Vulnerability fixed in LibreOffice

2011-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I've restated, in more explicit form, what I think the consensus is. It's hard to read your words that way, as they leave no room for anyone but Apache

Re: Vulnerability fixed in LibreOffice

2011-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote: Hi Dennis, On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 08:03 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: How is it that this reciprocal action occurred and was made known to the Apache OOo podling ?        Oh - it's quite simple, you ASF/OOo made

Re: Apply as committer

2011-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Yuri Dario mc6...@mclink.it wrote: Hi all, my name is Yuri Dario and in the past years I worked on the os2 port of OpenOffice.org; that work started with OOo 2.0 until version 3.2 released last year. Hi Yuri, Welcome to the project and welcome to Apache!

Slooooow spreadsheet documents

2011-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
Does anyone have a good example of a really slow spreadsheet document? Preferably ones that was slow due to computation/calculation, and one that is not merely slow due to size alone. I was talking to someone earlier who had ideas for speeding up spreadsheet computation through parallelization,

Re: Vulnerability fixed in LibreOffice

2011-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote: snip   All I'm doing is suggesting that we treat AOOo security like we do for every other Apache project.        Sounds great - lets have open-ness to other projects, and cross-fertilisation of list composition

Re: Slooooow spreadsheet documents

2011-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote: Am 10.10.2011 22:24, Rob Weir wrote: Does anyone have a good example of a really slow spreadsheet document? Preferably ones that was slow due to computation/calculation, and one that is not merely slow due to size

Re: Slooooow spreadsheet documents

2011-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Joost Andrae joost.and...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Rob, just a remark: In my private opinion it would make more sense to invest resources into impementing a formula reference which points to expanded formula cells (/edit/fill) like it is already done for formatting

Re: wiki down

2011-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org wrote: Got issues connecting to the mysql website. Please confirm: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ Is anyone *actively* working on migrating the wiki over to Apache? Or should we start working on writing a

Re: [DISCUSS] Review of OpenOffice.org Forums Agreement

2011-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: The Draft Proposal for governance and operation of the OpenOffice.org Forums within the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling is available on the Apache OO.o Community Wiki at

Re: [DISCUSS] Review of OpenOffice.org Forums Agreement

2011-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: The Draft Proposal for governance and operation

Re: [DISCUSS] Review of OpenOffice.org Forums Agreement

2011-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
To enable list-based discussion of the proposal, I'm pasting in the current wiki markup. This will allow anyone to enter inline commentary, as a response, to the quoted original. -Rob --- h1. Changes to integrate the forums into the AOOo project h2. 1. Community The

Re: Status of migration of OOo domains?

2011-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I am not sure that a complete list is being dealt with in the manner Shane is requesting. Like anything happens around here based on someone's request? Remember, most people here are volunteers, not employees. I

Re: [DISCUSS] Review of OpenOffice.org Forums Agreement

2011-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: To enable list-based discussion of the proposal, I'm pasting in the current wiki markup.  This will allow anyone to enter inline commentary, as a response, to the quoted original. -Rob --- h1. Changes

Re: Status of migration of OOo domains?

2011-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- On Tue, 10/11/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: This is really quite simple.  The legacy website I was making a list yesterday of what I thought the most critical parts of the legacy website are.  My list

Re: [DISCUSS] Review of OpenOffice.org Forums Agreement

2011-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 11 October 2011 22:05, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Rob Weir wrote on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 15:13:31 -0400: To enable list-based discussion of the proposal, I'm pasting in the current wiki markup

Re: [DISCUSS] Review of OpenOffice.org Forums Agreement

2011-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Volunteers are registered users of the forum(s) with a post count of over 200 (or another lower limit), who visit and post regularly to answer questions, report spam and in general show commitment to the forum(s),

Re: [DISCUSS] Review of OpenOffice.org Forums Agreement

2011-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
) as the community grows. On 10/11/2011 4:32 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote: ...snip... *C.* Forum admins must sign the ICLA. They will interact with the Apache Infra group and should be official project members. At least one Moderator, who will sign

Re: [DISCUSS] Review of OpenOffice.org Forums Agreement

2011-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: On 10/11/2011 8:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Shane Curcurua...@shanecurcuru.org  wrote: ...snip... Actually anyone is welcome to work with Apache infra on their normal mailing lists

Re: PMC report for October 2011

2011-10-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Before I sign off I'd like to see the report address external communications explicitly. The project has a real problem right now with asserting itself as the OpenOffice.org project and defining how it will

Re: PMC report for October 2011

2011-10-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: On 10/12/2011 8:51 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com  wrote: Before I sign off I'd like to see the report address external communications explicitly

Re: [PATCH] Fix for #118485#, #108221#, #67705#

2011-10-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hi; --- On Wed, 10/12/11, Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote:     Hi Pedro, On 12.10.2011 03:43, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi; I committed it as revision 1182166, and noted it in the bug report, but I admit

Re: PMC report for October 2011

2011-10-12 Thread Rob Weir
.  - Dennis -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 06:05 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: PMC report for October 2011 On 12 October 2011 13:51, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011

Re: PMC report for October 2011

2011-10-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Rob, On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: snip I think that we as the AOOo PPMC will need to find one or more PPMC members

Re: PMC report for October 2011

2011-10-12 Thread Rob Weir
I'll provide a PPMC Status: Bringing Initial Committers On-Board update on ooo-dev tonight and then reflect that state on the PMC report for October 2011.  - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 17:25 To: ooo-dev

Re: PMC report for October 2011

2011-10-12 Thread Rob Weir
the benefit we're going to personally achieve from writing such reports ;-) -Rob  - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 09:53 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: PMC report for October 2011 On Wed, Oct 12

Re: PMC report for October 2011

2011-10-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Rob, On Oct

Re: Migration: any plans to preserve mailing list archives?

2011-10-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: Are there any plans to preserve archives of any existing @oo.o mailing lists?  I didn't see a treatment of archives on the planning page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Mailing+lists This was

Re: Is there an org chart of the previous OOo governance(s)?

2011-10-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: OK, so there was the Community Council and the ESC, as well as the leads and participants on an array of Projects that worked on specific areas of OOo code, websites, outreach, conferences, everything. Since all these

Re: Is there an org chart of the previous OOo governance(s)?

2011-10-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: On 10/12/2011 8:01 PM, Rob Weir wrote: ...snip... On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Shane Curcurua...@shanecurcuru.org  wrote: I'm just trying to understand what some of the other previous expectations around OOo

Re: Migration: any plans to preserve mailing list archives?

2011-10-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Shane, If you register on the openoffice.org site (recommended), and are logged in, you will find something amazing at http://openoffice.org/projects/www/lists. Those are not all of the lists.  There are, in

Re: Fixing security lists

2011-10-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic...@googlemail.com wrote: Shane, done, and sent out a welcome mail, please confirm if this got through to your list, Martin Martin, I did see two notes come through to the ooo-security list from securityteam. However, my

Re: [PATCH] Fix for #118485#, #108221#, #67705#

2011-10-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:00 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 10/12/2011 05:47 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: [...] Oh yes, it was not that big, but it touched a lot of files which made it difficult to get the context. In any case big patches are sometimes necessary and I was confident

Re: Fixing security lists

2011-10-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:00 AM, TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote: On 10/13/2011 07:39, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic...@googlemail.com  wrote: Shane, done, and sent out a welcome mail, please confirm if this got through to your list

Re: Fixing security lists

2011-10-13 Thread Rob Weir
to know what your email address you're registered at the openoffice.org site ? My OOo ID is: robweir. That is associated with email address: robw...@apache.org Thanks! -Rob Martin Am 13.10.2011 13:39, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic

Re: Migration: any plans to preserve mailing list archives?

2011-10-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: Are there any plans to preserve archives of any existing @oo.o mailing lists?  I didn't see a treatment of archives on the planning page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Mailing+lists Obviously

Re: Migration: any plans to preserve mailing list archives?

2011-10-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: Are there any plans to preserve archives of any existing @oo.o mailing lists?  I didn't see a treatment of archives on the planning page: https

Re: ooo-general-ja mailing list settings

2011-10-13 Thread Rob Weir
2011/10/12 Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com: Hi Dennis and all, On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Do you have the message that came back with the rejected post? Yes, I do. It was like the following. --- from    Mail

Re: Blog Created

2011-10-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gavin McDonald san http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ Do you know that this blog post was published and is live on the blog website? And went to the Apache planet aggregator, etc? If you want to do testing, then better

Re: Copyright Notices, Source Headers and Licenses (By Example)

2011-10-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: (Using [1] as an illustration. I recommend [2] for further reading. Please jump in where I've been unclear) Thanks for writing this up. I'm going to restate what I think you said in my own words, just

Hosting OpenGrok?

2011-10-13 Thread Rob Weir
The legacy OpenOffice.org project had an instance [1] of a source code searching, cross reference application called OpenGrok[2]. It is very useful, especially in a 6 million LOC project like OOo. Have we ever used OpenGrok at Apache? If not, is there an alternative that other projects are

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: One of the comments on the Foundation blog is: Unless I'm mistaken, nothing has happened in the last 6 months: http://hg.services.openoffice.org/DEV300; It is perfectly understandable why someone would make this

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: And while we are at it can we do anything about https://www.ohloh.net/p/openoffice - why did we create a new OhLoh project rather than update the old one? As previously discussed, this is work in progress. I've

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: One of the comments on the Foundation blog is: Unless I'm mistaken, nothing has happened

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler

Re: [DISCUSS] Publishing the PPMC Roster

2011-10-14 Thread Rob Weir
=more comments inline -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 06:10 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Publishing the PPMC Roster On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Dennis E. Hamiltonorc...@apache.org  wrote

Re: [DISCUSS] When Is a PPMC Invitee a PPMC Member?

2011-10-15 Thread Rob Weir
Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 18:22 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Publishing the PPMC Roster orcmid note=Responses to Rob's questions in-line / -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw

Re: Copyright Notices, Source Headers and Licenses (By Example)

2011-10-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hi guys, Just to check ... The Croatian dictionary has been re-submitted under an Apache License 2 (bug 96705), however the zip file submitted still contains the LGPL in the makefile. We should try to get the author to

Need moderators for ooo-marketing list

2011-10-16 Thread Rob Weir
Ideally, 3 or 4 moderators, geographically dispersed. More is fine as well. Thanks! -Rob

Re: Need moderators for ooo-marketing list

2011-10-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 16 Oct 2011, at 21:07, Rob Weir wrote: Ideally, 3 or 4 moderators, geographically dispersed.  More is fine as well. So far moderating ooo-users hasn't been burdensome, so I'd be happy to volunteer to moderate

Re: [@ Rob Weir] Re: Need moderators for ooo-marketing list

2011-10-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Paul paul.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 16 Oct 2011, at 21:07, Rob Weir wrote: Ideally, 3 or 4 moderators

[Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

2011-10-16 Thread Rob Weir
I'm making a proposal now to shut down the legacy OOo mailing lists and direct the existing subscribers to one of the AOOo mailing lists. I realize that this is not the solution that many of us would prefer, but I believe that it is the best way forward that anyone is willing to volunteer to lead.

Re: Legacy OOo SVN

2011-10-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 21:39:12 +0200: svnrdump dump -r 49548 $SOURCE_REPOS 1 ed 1 svnrdump load $TARGET_REPOS 1 svn pl --revprop -r0 $TARGET_REPOS [ edit the svn:sync-* revprops ] I like

Re: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

2011-10-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: I like your proposal. I have some comments inline. On Oct 16, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Rob Weir wrote: I'm making a proposal now to shut down the legacy OOo mailing lists and direct the existing subscribers to one

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