Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-16 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 01:37:45PM +0800, Andre Fischer wrote:
 As for the downloaded extension.  I see this problem as an
 inconvenience at best.  For a new extension you have to update the
 main/extensions.lst file anyway, so that the new MD5 sum is used.
 If you do a clean build then everything is fine.

That's not the case, unless by clean build you mean removing the whole
source tree and checking the source again.
Reading
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots#AOO3.4UnofficialDeveloperSnapshots-buildflags
it does not seem the case with the MacOS script, and I do (only) clean
the source tree:

cd trunk
rm -rf */*/unxlngx6.pro
rm -rf */*/unxlngi6.pro
rm -rf main/solver/*/unxlngx6.pro
rm -rf main/solver/*/unxlngi6.pro

That's what I understand as a clean build.
Of course I can remove the whole source tree and check it again, but you
can not expect everyone building AOO to do so.

 The described problem occurs only if one tries to save time by
 reusing previously downloaded extensions.

The time is saved by not checking out the whole source tree, not the
previously downloaded extensions, they are downloaded to a folder that
contains source.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-16 Thread Andre Fischer

On 16.04.2012 17:33, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 01:37:45PM +0800, Andre Fischer wrote:

As for the downloaded extension.  I see this problem as an
inconvenience at best.  For a new extension you have to update the
main/extensions.lst file anyway, so that the new MD5 sum is used.
If you do a clean build then everything is fine.


That's not the case, unless by clean build you mean removing the whole
source tree and checking the source again.


That is indeed what I meant.


Reading
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots#AOO3.4UnofficialDeveloperSnapshots-buildflags
it does not seem the case with the MacOS script, and I do (only) clean
the source tree:

cd trunk
rm -rf */*/unxlngx6.pro
rm -rf */*/unxlngi6.pro
rm -rf main/solver/*/unxlngx6.pro
rm -rf main/solver/*/unxlngi6.pro


I prefer

rm -rf main/solver
cd instsetoo_native
build --prepare --from solenv

but that would not solve the problem either.



That's what I understand as a clean build.
Of course I can remove the whole source tree and check it again, but you
can not expect everyone building AOO to do so.


No, I guess not.  I admit that the current behavior has to be improved. 
 I will do that after the 3.4 release.





The described problem occurs only if one tries to save time by
reusing previously downloaded extensions.


The time is saved by not checking out the whole source tree, not the
previously downloaded extensions, they are downloaded to a folder that
contains source.


You save time by

- not checking out the source tree
- not downloading source tar balls
- not downloading dictionaries/extensions



As I said above, I will improve this after the release.
Something like:

Download extension if
- it is missing from ext_sources/
- the extension in ext_sources/ has a different MD5 checksum from
  the one in main/extensions.lst

Other, better ideas?


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-15 Thread RGB ES
There is a new version (0.6) for the Spanish dictionaries

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/es_ES-dicts

I remember reading somewhere that dictionaries are downloaded by the
build script and in that case next build will have the updated
versions. Is that right?

Regards
Ricardo


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-15 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Ricardo,

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 6:27 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is a new version (0.6) for the Spanish dictionaries

 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/es_ES-dicts

 I remember reading somewhere that dictionaries are downloaded by the
 build script

yes, but they are downloaded to trunk/ext_sources/ (this means they
are not removed when you clean the source tree).

 and in that case next build will have the updated
 versions. Is that right?

at least the Linux builds won't have updated versions (just checked
the Changelog.txt and has 0.5 as top entry).
I see two options: the dictionaries should be downloaded to a location
that gets cleaned when cleaning the source tree; or tell the extension
developer to put the version on the file name: es_ES-0.6.oxt, then
update trunk/main/extensions.lst.

Regards
Ariel


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-15 Thread RGB ES
El día 15 de abril de 2012 11:43, Ariel Constenla-Haile
arie...@apache.org escribió:
 Hi Ricardo,

 On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 6:27 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is a new version (0.6) for the Spanish dictionaries

 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/es_ES-dicts

 I remember reading somewhere that dictionaries are downloaded by the
 build script

 yes, but they are downloaded to trunk/ext_sources/ (this means they
 are not removed when you clean the source tree).

 and in that case next build will have the updated
 versions. Is that right?

 at least the Linux builds won't have updated versions (just checked
 the Changelog.txt and has 0.5 as top entry).
 I see two options: the dictionaries should be downloaded to a location
 that gets cleaned when cleaning the source tree; or tell the extension
 developer to put the version on the file name: es_ES-0.6.oxt, then
 update trunk/main/extensions.lst.

 Regards
 Ariel

The new version came out yesterday so maybe we are on a typical Murphy
law application were the build script downloaded the data just a
second before the update... ;)

Regards
Ricardo


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-15 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 6:51 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is a new version (0.6) for the Spanish dictionaries

 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/es_ES-dicts

 I remember reading somewhere that dictionaries are downloaded by the
 build script

 yes, but they are downloaded to trunk/ext_sources/ (this means they
 are not removed when you clean the source tree).

 and in that case next build will have the updated
 versions. Is that right?

 at least the Linux builds won't have updated versions (just checked
 the Changelog.txt and has 0.5 as top entry).
 I see two options: the dictionaries should be downloaded to a location
 that gets cleaned when cleaning the source tree; or tell the extension
 developer to put the version on the file name: es_ES-0.6.oxt, then
 update trunk/main/extensions.lst.

 Regards
 Ariel

 The new version came out yesterday so maybe we are on a typical Murphy
 law application were the build script downloaded the data just a
 second before the update... ;)

though I build on Friday morning, it has nothing to do with the date:
if the downloadable extension is present, it won't be downloaded.

Regards
Ariel


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

RGB ES wrote:

There is a new version (0.6) for the Spanish dictionaries
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/es_ES-dicts
I remember reading somewhere that dictionaries are downloaded by the
build script and in that case next build will have the updated
versions. Is that right?


Only if extensions.lst is updated. See

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/extensions.lst?r1=1309339r2=1309605

for an example. To address Ariel's concerns: this is independent of the 
file name, since the Extensions website stores new revisions in 
different directories (just look at the diff above; it should be clear).


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Andrea Pescetti wrote:

To address Ariel's concerns: this is independent of the
file name, since the Extensions website stores new revisions in
different directories (just look at the diff above; it should be clear).


No, actually something is wrong here. I assumed that the script would 
download the file again if the checksum did not match the one listed in 
extensions.lst (which seems the reasonable behavior to me).


But this didn't happen for the Italian dictionary in r1325589, just 
checked. So indeed, as Ariel says, we have two possible workarounds 
(clear the local mirror of extensions before build; rename extensions to 
be downloaded) but the solution would be to enforce that the MD5 matches 
the expected one from extensions.lst and, if it doesn't, to download the 
extension again.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-15 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Andrea,

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

 To address Ariel's concerns: this is independent of the
 file name, since the Extensions website stores new revisions in
 different directories (just look at the diff above; it should be clear).


 No, actually something is wrong here. I assumed that the script would
 download the file again if the checksum did not match the one listed in
 extensions.lst (which seems the reasonable behavior to me).

 But this didn't happen for the Italian dictionary in r1325589, just checked.
 So indeed, as Ariel says, we have two possible workarounds (clear the local
 mirror of extensions before build; rename extensions to be downloaded) but
 the solution would be to enforce that the MD5 matches the expected one from
 extensions.lst and, if it doesn't, to download the extension again.

checking the MD5 sounds better.
The attached patch seems to fix the issue (it updated 8 extensions on
the first run, none on the second).

Regards


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

checking the MD5 sounds better.
The attached patch seems to fix the issue (it updated 8 extensions on
the first run, none on the second).


Great! The patch was apparently removed by the mailing list filters, but 
I opened an issue for this

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119229
and you can attach it there.

Thanks,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:27 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is a new version (0.6) for the Spanish dictionaries

 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/es_ES-dicts

 I remember reading somewhere that dictionaries are downloaded by the
 build script and in that case next build will have the updated
 versions. Is that right?


The process we've been using is this:

1) Someone enters a defect report in BZ describing the issue and
setting the 3_4_release_blocker flag to ?

2) Same person starts a thread on ooo-dev pointing to that BZ issue
and seeking consensus to treat that issue as a release blocker

3) If there is consensus that there is a release-blocking bug, then we
delay the release until we fix the bug

I see that Andrea has entered an issue in BZ for this:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119229

But no one has explained what the bug actual is.   And no one has set
the release blocker flag.   The fact that we are not using a new
dictionary that came out a few days ago -- this is not a bug, IMHO.
That would be a feature enhancement, but we can do that in the next
release.

-Rob

 Regards
 Ricardo



Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rob Weir wrote:

I see that Andrea has entered an issue in BZ for this:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119229
But no one has explained what the bug actual is.


The description I gave there is a rather accurate description of the bug 
itself, but indeed it doesn't explain its effects.


The effect is: if I modify the OpenOffice sources (extensions.lst) in 
order to use a newer version of the Italian (or Spanish) dictionary, by 
providing a new download link and a new MD5 checksum for it, the build 
system (unless we are building on a completely clean system, and this is 
a different problem) will continue to use any previously downloaded 
version. So the most recent builds from Ariel, for example, do not 
bundle the latest Italian dictionary and are not consistent with the 
latest source code.



And no one has set the release blocker flag.


The dictionary update is a problem but the inconsistency with the source 
code is probably a bigger problem.


As for release blockers, I honestly expect that when RC1 is out we will 
have a look at significant bugs that emerge (including a couple of 
existing bugs that might not be release blockers by themselves but are 
surely significant, like this one

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119229 and the icons
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119208 ) and, if we have 
several of them, produce a RC2 instead of listing, say, ten Known bugs 
in the Release notes.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 Rob Weir wrote:

 I see that Andrea has entered an issue in BZ for this:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119229
 But no one has explained what the bug actual is.


 The description I gave there is a rather accurate description of the bug
 itself, but indeed it doesn't explain its effects.

 The effect is: if I modify the OpenOffice sources (extensions.lst) in order
 to use a newer version of the Italian (or Spanish) dictionary, by providing
 a new download link and a new MD5 checksum for it, the build system (unless
 we are building on a completely clean system, and this is a different
 problem) will continue to use any previously downloaded version. So the most
 recent builds from Ariel, for example, do not bundle the latest Italian
 dictionary and are not consistent with the latest source code.


 And no one has set the release blocker flag.


 The dictionary update is a problem but the inconsistency with the source
 code is probably a bigger problem.

 As for release blockers, I honestly expect that when RC1 is out we will have
 a look at significant bugs that emerge (including a couple of existing bugs
 that might not be release blockers by themselves but are surely significant,
 like this one
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119229 and the icons
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119208 ) and, if we have
 several of them, produce a RC2 instead of listing, say, ten Known bugs in
 the Release notes.


Let's make sure we agree on what a Release Candidate is.  A RC is a
build we (and the IPMC) vote on.  If the vote passes then we release.
There are no vetoes in this vote.

The RC is not the time to start looking for new bugs, or to raise
already known bugs.  If you are aware of a bug that must be fixed
before we release, then you should have already entered it as a
release-blocking issue.  You should not wait for the RC build.

So if you think that
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119229 is a
release-blocking issue, then you need to make your case on that now.

-Rob

 Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rob Weir wrote:

Let's make sure we agree on what a Release Candidate is.  A RC is a
build we (and the IPMC) vote on.  If the vote passes then we release.
There are no vetoes in this vote.


We agree on this.


The RC is not the time to start looking for new bugs, or to raise
already known bugs.


Then we have a different understanding of what the target public of a RC 
is, and this is likely due to a difference in processes.


Historically, OpenOffice.org produced a numbered Release Candidate 
(OpenOffice.org 3.3 had ten, RC1 to RC10) that was made available to the 
community exactly for the purpose of looking for unknown bugs. QA 
activities were planned for the RC phase and, after a few days of 
availability, a RC was approved as final or rejected (and the Release 
Manager could, and at times did, include fixes for previously known bugs 
that had been accumulating and that were significant; none of them was a 
blocker in itself, but each of them would have caused problems to users, 
so their combined effect was blocking the release).


Now, if I get it correctly, the target public is just people who have to 
vote on a release and not the community at large, so QA tests are 
expected to be run on an earlier version, or anyway it is not expected 
that the RC phase will be the peak of QA activities. Right? (In other 
words: the first RC in earlier times had a ~80% chance of being 
rejected; here the first RC would have high chances to be approved).



If you are aware of a bug that must be fixed
before we release, then you should have already entered it as a
release-blocking issue.  You should not wait for the RC build.


Everything that is confirmed, P2, a bug, and different from 
OpenOffice.org 3.3 should either be a blocker or deserve a line in the 
Release Notes. Do we agree on this, or any reasonable tweaking of it?
The icon problem https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119208 
falls in this case, so I just commented on the relevant thread.



So if you think that
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119229 is a
release-blocking issue, then you need to make your case on that now.


I won't. The effect, as far as the Italian dictionary is concerned, is 
not so big. But then we might discover that, due to that bug, we are 
bundling different versions of the Presentation Minimizer, or any other 
bundled extension, across different operating systems, and the bug might 
need to be re-evaluated.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-06 Thread Gianluca Turconi
In data 05 aprile 2012 alle ore 18:37:25, Dennis E. Hamilton  
dennis.hamil...@acm.org ha scritto:


There are -en Writing Aids extensions that tend to bundle the variants  
in the same package.  E.g., there will be en-US, en-GB, en-ZA, and  
others in the same .oxt.


Well, I've unzipped the en oxt package and it includes several English  
spelling dictionaries (_AU _CA _GB _US _ZA), but only two hyphenation  
files (_GB _US) and only one thesaurus (_US).


It's a rather complete tool, but the original package oxt description is  
also rather misleading because it doesn't say before downloading what the  
package exactly includes.


Anyway, for its inclusion into the Italian binary and from my point of  
view, this package is better than what I thought since it includes the _GB  
variant. :-)


Regards,
--
Gianluca Turconi
Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza,
fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale:
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Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-05 Thread Gianluca Turconi
In data 02 aprile 2012 alle ore 17:30:40, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de ha  
scritto:



Added English dictionary (plain en, no -US or other) for Italian UI.
 If (when) your factions come to an agreement, let me know.


The Italian users, who have answered to my question, prefer the light  
solution (Italian + English only).


So you can keep things how they are now.

Anyway, it would be interesting to me to know why the en dictionary has  
not a nation suffix even though it seems being an American English  
dictionary only.


Regards,
--
Gianluca Turconi
Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza,
fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale:
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RE: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There are -en Writing Aids extensions that tend to bundle the variants in the 
same package.  E.g., there will be en-US, en-GB, en-ZA, and others in the same 
.oxt.

Is this not happening with the AOO Writing Aids?

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Gianluca Turconi [mailto:g...@letturefantastiche.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 00:13
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

In data 02 aprile 2012 alle ore 17:30:40, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de ha  
scritto:

 Added English dictionary (plain en, no -US or other) for Italian UI.
  If (when) your factions come to an agreement, let me know.

The Italian users, who have answered to my question, prefer the light  
solution (Italian + English only).

So you can keep things how they are now.

Anyway, it would be interesting to me to know why the en dictionary has  
not a nation suffix even though it seems being an American English  
dictionary only.

Regards,
-- 
Gianluca Turconi
Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza,
fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale:
http://www.letturefantastiche.com/



Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-03 Thread Gianluca Turconi
In data 02 aprile 2012 alle ore 17:30:40, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de ha  
scritto:



Added English dictionary (plain en, no -US or other) for Italian UI.


Does anybody know why this dictionary is simply labeled en, while  
comments here:


http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/dict-en-fixed

say that it's US-spelling only?

Regards,
--
Gianluca Turconi
Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza,
fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale:
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Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-02 Thread Andre Fischer

On 01.04.2012 12:06, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Gianluca Turconi wrote:

Andre Fischer:

Ongoing: Italian team is working on the set of dictionaries to include
for it.


If nobody objects to this, I'll be able to give an answer on next
Thursday.
Indeed, so far, there has been more feedback, split up in factions,
than
what I expected. :-P


Indeed, but since everybody seems to be fine with (at least) Italian and
English, let's start by including those two, so that we can test that
everything works. Then we might (or might not) add further dictionaries.


Added English dictionary (plain en, no -US or other) for Italian UI.

If (when) your factions come to an agreement, let me know.

-Andre



Regards,
Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-01 Thread Gianluca Turconi

In data 29 marzo 2012 alle ore 15:49:28, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de ha
scritto:


Ongoing: Italian team is working on the set of dictionaries to include
for it.


If nobody objects to this, I'll be able to give an answer on next Thursday.

Indeed, so far, there has been more feedback, split up in factions, than
what I expected. :-P

Regards,
--
Gianluca Turconi
Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza,
fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale:
http://www.letturefantastiche.com/


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-01 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Gianluca Turconi wrote:

Andre Fischer:

Ongoing: Italian team is working on the set of dictionaries to include
for it.


If nobody objects to this, I'll be able to give an answer on next Thursday.
Indeed, so far, there has been more feedback, split up in factions, than
what I expected. :-P


Indeed, but since everybody seems to be fine with (at least) Italian and 
English, let's start by including those two, so that we can test that 
everything works. Then we might (or might not) add further dictionaries.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-30 Thread Javier Sola

Dear André,

can you please include the Khmer (km_KH) dictionary for Khmer language.

Please use the one in:

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/km_spellchecker

Cheers,

Javier



On 3/29/12 8:49 PM, Andre Fischer wrote:

Current Status: Bundled dictionaries for ui languages:

ui languagedictionaries

da da

de_AT  de_AT
de_CH  de_CH
de,de_DE   de_DE, de_AT, de_CH, it, fr, en

en en, en_CA, en_US, en_AU, en_ZA, en_NZ

es es

fr fr

it it

nl en_US, fr, de_DE

no no

ro ro

ru ru, en_US, de

sl sl


Find details at [1]. If a language is not listed in the first column
then no dictionary will be bundled.


Ongoing: Italian team is working on the set of dictionaries to include
for it.


_Call for Action:_ If your language is missing in this list, or you want
more dictionaries bundled for it then please reply to this thread.  It 
will not take much of your time.



Best regards,
Andre


[1] 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids







Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-30 Thread Andre Fischer

On 30.03.2012 10:45, Javier Sola wrote:

Dear André,

can you please include the Khmer (km_KH) dictionary for Khmer language.

Please use the one in:

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/km_spellchecker


Done.



Cheers,

Javier



On 3/29/12 8:49 PM, Andre Fischer wrote:

Current Status: Bundled dictionaries for ui languages:

ui language dictionaries

da da

de_AT de_AT
de_CH de_CH
de,de_DE de_DE, de_AT, de_CH, it, fr, en

en en, en_CA, en_US, en_AU, en_ZA, en_NZ

es es

fr fr

it it

nl en_US, fr, de_DE

no no

ro ro

ru ru, en_US, de

sl sl


Find details at [1]. If a language is not listed in the first column
then no dictionary will be bundled.


Ongoing: Italian team is working on the set of dictionaries to include
for it.


_Call for Action:_ If your language is missing in this list, or you want
more dictionaries bundled for it then please reply to this thread. It
will not take much of your time.


Best regards,
Andre


[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids






Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-29 Thread Gianluca Turconi

In data 28 marzo 2012 alle ore 18:06:33, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de ha
scritto:

Please note that at the moment only two languages will have more than  
their native dictionary bundled: nl and ru.
Please speak up if you want more dictionaries for other languages as  
well.


I've just sent a mail about this topic to the Italian user ML.

I'll give here any feedback from the users, if any will be provided.

Personally, I think they should surely be included:

Italian
English (US or GB)

However, these dictionaries

French
German
Spanish (Espana)

may be useful too to many Italian users, in my opinion.

Is there a near deadline for speaking up? :-)

Regards,
--
Gianluca Turconi
Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza,
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Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-29 Thread Andre Fischer

On 29.03.2012 10:02, Gianluca Turconi wrote:

In data 28 marzo 2012 alle ore 18:06:33, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de ha
scritto:


Please note that at the moment only two languages will have more than
their native dictionary bundled: nl and ru.
Please speak up if you want more dictionaries for other languages as
well.


I've just sent a mail about this topic to the Italian user ML.

I'll give here any feedback from the users, if any will be provided.

Personally, I think they should surely be included:

Italian
English (US or GB)


Please keep in mind that we currently have no en_GB.



However, these dictionaries

French
German
Spanish (Espana)

may be useful too to many Italian users, in my opinion.


OK, I will wait.



Is there a near deadline for speaking up? :-)


The deadline is our release.
But the sooner the better.



Regards,


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-29 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:23:36 +0200
Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de wrote:

 On 29.03.2012 10:02, Gianluca Turconi wrote:
  In data 28 marzo 2012 alle ore 18:06:33, Andre Fischer
  a...@a-w-f.de ha scritto:
 
  Please note that at the moment only two languages will have
  more than their native dictionary bundled: nl and ru.
  Please speak up if you want more dictionaries for other
  languages as well.
 
  I've just sent a mail about this topic to the Italian user ML.
 
  I'll give here any feedback from the users, if any will be
  provided.
 
  Personally, I think they should surely be included:
 
  Italian
  English (US or GB)
 
 Please keep in mind that we currently have no en_GB.
 
 
  However, these dictionaries
 
  French
  German
  Spanish (Espana)
 
  may be useful too to many Italian users, in my opinion.
 
 OK, I will wait.
 
 
  Is there a near deadline for speaking up? :-)
 
 The deadline is our release.
 But the sooner the better.
 
 
  Regards,
 

It is worth noting that a frequent
question from users is how to remove unwanted
preinstalled dictionaries.  In a future release perhaps a
modification of the install process might allow selection of
dictionaries at install time.  I suspect, but do not know for
certain, that in some cases such users wish to economise on
memory, be it storage or RAM, used by the program when installed
on older computers.

-- 
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-29 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

On 3/29/12 11:13 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:23:36 +0200
Andre Fischera...@a-w-f.de  wrote:


On 29.03.2012 10:02, Gianluca Turconi wrote:

In data 28 marzo 2012 alle ore 18:06:33, Andre Fischer
a...@a-w-f.de  ha scritto:


Please note that at the moment only two languages will have
more than their native dictionary bundled: nl and ru.
Please speak up if you want more dictionaries for other
languages as well.


I've just sent a mail about this topic to the Italian user ML.

I'll give here any feedback from the users, if any will be
provided.

Personally, I think they should surely be included:

Italian
English (US or GB)


Please keep in mind that we currently have no en_GB.



However, these dictionaries

French
German
Spanish (Espana)

may be useful too to many Italian users, in my opinion.


OK, I will wait.



Is there a near deadline for speaking up? :-)


The deadline is our release.
But the sooner the better.



Regards,




It is worth noting that a frequent
question from users is how to remove unwanted
preinstalled dictionaries.  In a future release perhaps a
modification of the install process might allow selection of
dictionaries at install time.  I suspect, but do not know for
certain, that in some cases such users wish to economise on
memory, be it storage or RAM, used by the program when installed
on older computers.

this is valuable feedback and we should take care of this in the future. 
As always and everywhere we have a lot of areas where we can improve 
things.


That means that we exactly need the feedback from our users (home as 
well as enterprise users). In the end the tasks they want to achieve are 
very similar for all. Our focus for the future should be to make

things as easy as possible for our users.

Juergen


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-29 Thread Andre Fischer

Current Status: Bundled dictionaries for ui languages:

ui languagedictionaries

da da

de_AT  de_AT
de_CH  de_CH
de,de_DE   de_DE, de_AT, de_CH, it, fr, en

en en, en_CA, en_US, en_AU, en_ZA, en_NZ

es es

fr fr

it it

nl en_US, fr, de_DE

no no

ro ro

ru ru, en_US, de

sl sl


Find details at [1]. If a language is not listed in the first column
then no dictionary will be bundled.


Ongoing: Italian team is working on the set of dictionaries to include
for it.


_Call for Action:_ If your language is missing in this list, or you want
more dictionaries bundled for it then please reply to this thread.  It 
will not take much of your time.



Best regards,
Andre


[1] 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids


Re[2]: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-29 Thread Yakov Reztsov
Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:08:58 -0700 (PDT) от Pedro Giffuni:
 
 
 --- Mar 27/3/12, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org ha scritto:
 ...
   I downloaded the source from SVN.
   But did not find the file th_ru_RU_v2.idx
   Maybe it has to be generated during the build process?
   Checked that in the dictionary for the German
  equivalent file is present (this thesaurus index file).
   Generated with the help of his MyThes and assembled a
  complete test version of the dictionary.
  
  Index files could be generated at build time, but
  OpenOffice.org historically did not do it, preferring to use
  pre-built files. And now that included dictionaries must be
  packaged as verbatim extensions, we will surely need to
  package the index file in the extensions rather than
  generating it at build time.
  
 
 I think I pointed to the right russian dictionary in the
 Wiki and I am adding some few extension that were
 requested in Bugzilla.
 

Can be it is necessary to add the file th_ru_RU_v2.idx 
to  SVN 
(http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU/?pathrev=1209016)?



  --
Yakov Reztsov

Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni

On 03/29/12 09:45, Yakov Reztsov wrote:

...
Can be it is necessary to add the file th_ru_RU_v2.idx
to  SVN 
(http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU/?pathrev=1209016)?



That branch doesn't exist anymore on our Apache SVN. I
am of the opinion that we should restore it outside, probably
in apache-extras.org and generate all dictionaries there.

FWIW, The LibreOffice guys have the dictionaries in an
independent GIT repository.

cheers,

Pedro.



Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-29 Thread Hagar Delest



On 3/29/12 11:13 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

It is worth noting that a frequent
question from users is how to remove unwanted
preinstalled dictionaries.  In a future release perhaps a
modification of the install process might allow selection of
dictionaries at install time.  I suspect, but do not know for
certain, that in some cases such users wish to economise on
memory, be it storage or RAM, used by the program when installed
on older computers.


this is valuable feedback and we should take care of this in the future. As 
always and everywhere we have a lot of areas where we can improve things.

That means that we exactly need the feedback from our users (home as well as 
enterprise users). In the end the tasks they want to achieve are very similar 
for all. Our focus for the future should be to make
things as easy as possible for our users.

Juergen


In the same area, it's rather strange that the whole list of languages is available in the 
drop-down lists that are easily accessible to users (in the Font properties tab for 
example) whereas only installed dics are listed in ToolsOptionsLanguage and 
SettingsWriting AidsModules.

The long list is either confusing (are all these languages installed?) or not 
convenient (I've to move along the whole list to find the correct language). It 
would be more logical to have the opposite:
- short list (only installed dics) in the common settings
- long list (with the check mark for installed languages) in the advanced options 
(ToolsOptions...)

In the forum, very often, users don't make the difference at first between a 
language with a check mark (installed) and without in the list.

Just my 2 ct, sorry to be OT here. Can make a bug report if needed.

Hagar


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-28 Thread Andre Fischer

On 28.03.2012 00:08, Pedro Giffuni wrote:



--- Mar 27/3/12, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org  ha scritto:
...

I downloaded the source from SVN.
But did not find the file th_ru_RU_v2.idx
Maybe it has to be generated during the build process?
Checked that in the dictionary for the German

equivalent file is present (this thesaurus index file).

Generated with the help of his MyThes and assembled a

complete test version of the dictionary.

Index files could be generated at build time, but
OpenOffice.org historically did not do it, preferring to use
pre-built files. And now that included dictionaries must be
packaged as verbatim extensions, we will surely need to
package the index file in the extensions rather than
generating it at build time.



I think I pointed to the right russian dictionary in the
Wiki and I am adding some few extension that were
requested in Bugzilla.

Croatian is a special case, they relicensed their dict to
ALv2 but the one in the extensions site:

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/search/node/croatian

doesn't seem to be updated. We need someone that will
regenerate it (it does include idx).


I have updated main/extensions.lst accordingly.


Please note that at the moment only two languages will have more than 
their native dictionary bundled: nl and ru.

Please speak up if you want more dictionaries for other languages as well.


I also updated some language names in the Language column on the wiki 
page to values that are understood by our build environment (especially 
the --with-lang configure switch): removed the country parts, eg fr_FR 
became fr.


Updated the download link for Norwegian due to problems with the redirect.

Finally, I added a new switch to configure.  By saying 
--disable-bundled-dictionaries you can now, well, disable the bundling 
of dictionary extensions.  More importantly it detects whether hunspell 
is available.  If not the dictionaries are not bundled because the would 
not work anyway.


-Andre



Cheers,

Pedro.


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-27 Thread Andre Fischer

Hi Yakov,

thanks for your input.  I still need to know which Russian dictionary to 
include.  On


http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries

there are listed 8 different extensions.

-Andre

On 26.03.2012 19:15, Yakov Reztsov wrote:

Hi Andre,

I think in a Russian AOO the following languages should be bundled:
Russian (ru_RU)
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU/?pathrev=1209016
English (en_US)
German (de_DE)



Best regards
Yakov Reztsov

Op 22-3-2012 10:25, Andre Fischer schreef:

Hi all,

I need your help.

We are now able to include extensions -- dictionaries and others -- into
installation sets, depending on the language(s) for which an
installation set is built.

All that is needed is a list of extensions that are to be bundled for
each language. At the moment this list only contains entries for english
and german.

If you want to have dictionaries included for other languages then you
can do that in one of several ways:

- Edit [1] in the confluence wiki and then tell me about it so that I
can update the main/extensions.lst file. The important part is to
provide working URLs int the Upstream link comment. The URLs may,
however, contain redirections (like the ones from
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries).
Note that you can edit this wiki only when you are a commiter.

- Reply to this message on ooo-dev or personally to me. Again, it is
important that I get working URLs.

- Edit main/extensions.lst yourself. I tried to document the format in
[2] but it should be pretty clear just by looking at extensions.lst.


Best regards,
Andre


[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids
[2]
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Bootstrapping#extensions.lst



Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-27 Thread Andre Fischer

On 26.03.2012 20:59, Simon Brouwer wrote:

Hi Andre,

There is one at http://en-gb.pyxidium.co.uk/dictionary/OOo.php but the
zip just contains the .dic and .aff files; it is not in .oxt format.
The readme states the files are derived from lgpl sources and therefore
lgpl as well.

If nothing better is found, I could have a go at wrapping a .oxt around it.


If you provide the extension then I will add it.

-Andre



Best regards,
Simon



Op 26-3-2012 11:46, Andre Fischer schreef:

On 23.03.2012 22:15, Simon Brouwer wrote:

Hi Andre,

I think in a Dutch AOO the following languages should be bundled:
Dutch (nl_NL)
English (en_GB and en_US)
French (fr_FR)
German (de_DE)


After reading your mail again, I suppose that you want dictionaries
nl_NL, en_GB, en_US, fr_FR, and de_DE added for dutch.

I can add all of these except en_GB. The link on [1] lead to dead links
(on an ftp server that is not online anymore.)

I will update the Wiki and main/extensions.lst.

If anyone finds a working en_GB dictionary, please speak up.

-Andre



I have added URLs of these in [1] if missing.

Best regards
Simon.

Op 22-3-2012 10:25, Andre Fischer schreef:

Hi all,

I need your help.

We are now able to include extensions -- dictionaries and others --
into
installation sets, depending on the language(s) for which an
installation set is built.

All that is needed is a list of extensions that are to be bundled for
each language. At the moment this list only contains entries for
english
and german.

If you want to have dictionaries included for other languages then you
can do that in one of several ways:

- Edit [1] in the confluence wiki and then tell me about it so that I
can update the main/extensions.lst file. The important part is to
provide working URLs int the Upstream link comment. The URLs may,
however, contain redirections (like the ones from
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries).
Note that you can edit this wiki only when you are a commiter.

- Reply to this message on ooo-dev or personally to me. Again, it is
important that I get working URLs.

- Edit main/extensions.lst yourself. I tried to document the format in
[2] but it should be pretty clear just by looking at extensions.lst.


Best regards,
Andre


[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids


[2]
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Bootstrapping#extensions.lst














Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-27 Thread Torokhov Sergey
On Tuesday 27 of March 2012 11:32:25 Andre Fischer wrote:
 Hi Yakov,
 
 thanks for your input.  I still need to know which Russian dictionary to
 include.  On
 
 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries
 
 there are listed 8 different extensions.
 
 -Andre
 
 On 26.03.2012 19:15, Yakov Reztsov wrote:
  Hi Andre,
  
  I think in a Russian AOO the following languages should be bundled:
  Russian (ru_RU)   
  http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU
  /?pathrev=1209016 English (en_US)
  German (de_DE)

Hi Andre,

I observe, and Yakov confirmed it for me early, that proposed set
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU/?pathrev=1209016

already includes the following russian spellchecker dictionary:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/dict_ru_RU_hyph

as files ru_RU.dic and ru_RU.aff.


--
Regards


Re[2]: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-27 Thread Yakov Reztsov
Hi Andre,


Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:38:52 +0400 от Torokhov Sergey:
 On Tuesday 27 of March 2012 11:32:25 Andre Fischer wrote:
  Hi Yakov,
  
  thanks for your input.  I still need to know which Russian dictionary to
  include.  On
  
  http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries
  
  there are listed 8 different extensions.
  
  -Andre
  
  On 26.03.2012 19:15, Yakov Reztsov wrote:
   Hi Andre,
   
   I think in a Russian AOO the following languages should be bundled:
   Russian (ru_RU)   
   http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU
   /?pathrev=1209016 English (en_US)
   German (de_DE)
 
 Hi Andre,
 
 I observe, and Yakov confirmed it for me early, that proposed set
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU/?pathrev=1209016
 
 already includes the following russian spellchecker dictionary:
 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/dict_ru_RU_hyph
 
 as files ru_RU.dic and ru_RU.aff.
 
 

In dictionary 
 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/dict_ru_RU_hyph
included  only spellcheck dictionary and hyphenation.
Thesaurus is not included in this version.
In   
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU/?pathrev=1209016
is  full extension with spellcheck, hyphenation and thesaurus dictionary.




 --
Yakov Reztsov


Re[3]: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-27 Thread Yakov Reztsov

Hi Andre,

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:11:06 +0400 от Yakov Reztsov :
 Hi Andre,
 
 
 Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:38:52 +0400 от Torokhov Sergey:
  On Tuesday 27 of March 2012 11:32:25 Andre Fischer wrote:
   Hi Yakov,
   
   thanks for your input.  I still need to know which Russian dictionary to
   include.  On
   
   http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries
   
   there are listed 8 different extensions.
   
   -Andre
   
   On 26.03.2012 19:15, Yakov Reztsov wrote:
Hi Andre,

I think in a Russian AOO the following languages should be bundled:
Russian (ru_RU)   
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU
/?pathrev=1209016 English (en_US)
German (de_DE)
  
  Hi Andre,
  
  I observe, and Yakov confirmed it for me early, that proposed set
  http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU/?pathrev=1209016
  
  already includes the following russian spellchecker dictionary:
  http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/dict_ru_RU_hyph
  
  as files ru_RU.dic and ru_RU.aff.
  
  
 
 In dictionary 
  http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/dict_ru_RU_hyph
 included  only spellcheck dictionary and hyphenation.
 Thesaurus is not included in this version.
 In   
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU/?pathrev=1209016
 is  full extension with spellcheck, hyphenation and thesaurus dictionary.
 

I decided to check  dictionary from Apache SVN.  ( 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU/?pathrev=1209016)
I downloaded the source from SVN.
But did not find the file th_ru_RU_v2.idx
Maybe it has to be generated during the build process?
Checked that in the dictionary for the German equivalent file is present (this 
thesaurus index file).
Generated with the help of his MyThes and assembled a complete test version of 
the dictionary.

I am build Russian test dictionary  extension based on SVN:
http://forumooo.ru/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2562.0;attach=3925

 --
Yakov Reztsov


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Yakov Reztsov wrote:

I decided to check  dictionary from Apache SVN.  ( 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU/?pathrev=1209016)
I downloaded the source from SVN.
But did not find the file th_ru_RU_v2.idx
Maybe it has to be generated during the build process?
Checked that in the dictionary for the German equivalent file is present (this 
thesaurus index file).
Generated with the help of his MyThes and assembled a complete test version of 
the dictionary.


Index files could be generated at build time, but OpenOffice.org 
historically did not do it, preferring to use pre-built files. And now 
that included dictionaries must be packaged as verbatim extensions, we 
will surely need to package the index file in the extensions rather than 
generating it at build time.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-27 Thread Pedro Giffuni


--- Mar 27/3/12, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org ha scritto:
...
  I downloaded the source from SVN.
  But did not find the file th_ru_RU_v2.idx
  Maybe it has to be generated during the build process?
  Checked that in the dictionary for the German
 equivalent file is present (this thesaurus index file).
  Generated with the help of his MyThes and assembled a
 complete test version of the dictionary.
 
 Index files could be generated at build time, but
 OpenOffice.org historically did not do it, preferring to use
 pre-built files. And now that included dictionaries must be
 packaged as verbatim extensions, we will surely need to
 package the index file in the extensions rather than
 generating it at build time.
 

I think I pointed to the right russian dictionary in the
Wiki and I am adding some few extension that were
requested in Bugzilla.

Croatian is a special case, they relicensed their dict to
ALv2 but the one in the extensions site:

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/search/node/croatian

doesn't seem to be updated. We need someone that will
regenerate it (it does include idx).

Cheers,

Pedro.


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-26 Thread Andre Fischer

On 23.03.2012 22:15, Simon Brouwer wrote:

Hi Andre,

I think in a Dutch AOO the following languages should be bundled:
Dutch (nl_NL)
English (en_GB and en_US)
French (fr_FR)
German (de_DE)

I have added URLs of these in [1] if missing.


Thanks, I have updated the main/extensions.lst file accordingly.

Note that I have only added one dutch dictionary for nl_NL,  if you want 
dictionaries for other languages included, please update the Wiki page.


We have now dictionaries for these languages:

en
de, de_DE
nl_NL
fr_FR
it_IT
es_ES

-Andre



Best regards
Simon.

Op 22-3-2012 10:25, Andre Fischer schreef:

Hi all,

I need your help.

We are now able to include extensions -- dictionaries and others -- into
installation sets, depending on the language(s) for which an
installation set is built.

All that is needed is a list of extensions that are to be bundled for
each language. At the moment this list only contains entries for english
and german.

If you want to have dictionaries included for other languages then you
can do that in one of several ways:

- Edit [1] in the confluence wiki and then tell me about it so that I
can update the main/extensions.lst file. The important part is to
provide working URLs int the Upstream link comment. The URLs may,
however, contain redirections (like the ones from
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries).
Note that you can edit this wiki only when you are a commiter.

- Reply to this message on ooo-dev or personally to me. Again, it is
important that I get working URLs.

- Edit main/extensions.lst yourself. I tried to document the format in
[2] but it should be pretty clear just by looking at extensions.lst.


Best regards,
Andre


[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids
[2]
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Bootstrapping#extensions.lst







Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-26 Thread Andre Fischer

On 23.03.2012 22:15, Simon Brouwer wrote:

Hi Andre,

I think in a Dutch AOO the following languages should be bundled:
Dutch (nl_NL)
English (en_GB and en_US)
French (fr_FR)
German (de_DE)


After reading your mail again, I suppose that you want dictionaries 
nl_NL, en_GB, en_US, fr_FR, and de_DE added for dutch.


I can add all of these except en_GB.  The link on [1] lead to dead links 
(on an ftp server that is not online anymore.)


I will update the Wiki and main/extensions.lst.

If anyone finds a working en_GB dictionary, please speak up.

-Andre



I have added URLs of these in [1] if missing.

Best regards
Simon.

Op 22-3-2012 10:25, Andre Fischer schreef:

Hi all,

I need your help.

We are now able to include extensions -- dictionaries and others -- into
installation sets, depending on the language(s) for which an
installation set is built.

All that is needed is a list of extensions that are to be bundled for
each language. At the moment this list only contains entries for english
and german.

If you want to have dictionaries included for other languages then you
can do that in one of several ways:

- Edit [1] in the confluence wiki and then tell me about it so that I
can update the main/extensions.lst file. The important part is to
provide working URLs int the Upstream link comment. The URLs may,
however, contain redirections (like the ones from
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries).
Note that you can edit this wiki only when you are a commiter.

- Reply to this message on ooo-dev or personally to me. Again, it is
important that I get working URLs.

- Edit main/extensions.lst yourself. I tried to document the format in
[2] but it should be pretty clear just by looking at extensions.lst.


Best regards,
Andre


[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids
[2]
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Bootstrapping#extensions.lst







Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-26 Thread Yakov Reztsov
Hi Andre,

I think in a Russian AOO the following languages should be bundled:
Russian (ru_RU)
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/dictionaries/ru_RU/?pathrev=1209016
English (en_US)
German (de_DE)



Best regards
Yakov Reztsov

Op 22-3-2012 10:25, Andre Fischer schreef:
 Hi all,

 I need your help.

 We are now able to include extensions -- dictionaries and others -- into
 installation sets, depending on the language(s) for which an
 installation set is built.

 All that is needed is a list of extensions that are to be bundled for
 each language. At the moment this list only contains entries for english
 and german.

 If you want to have dictionaries included for other languages then you
 can do that in one of several ways:

 - Edit [1] in the confluence wiki and then tell me about it so that I
 can update the main/extensions.lst file. The important part is to
 provide working URLs int the Upstream link comment. The URLs may,
 however, contain redirections (like the ones from
 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries).
 Note that you can edit this wiki only when you are a commiter.

 - Reply to this message on ooo-dev or personally to me. Again, it is
 important that I get working URLs.

 - Edit main/extensions.lst yourself. I tried to document the format in
 [2] but it should be pretty clear just by looking at extensions.lst.


 Best regards,
 Andre


 [1]
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids
 [2]
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Bootstrapping#extensions.lst



Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-26 Thread Simon Brouwer

Hi Andre,

There is one at http://en-gb.pyxidium.co.uk/dictionary/OOo.php but the 
zip just contains the .dic and .aff files; it is not in .oxt format.
The readme states the files are derived from lgpl sources and therefore 
lgpl as well.


If nothing better is found, I could have a go at wrapping a .oxt around it.

Best regards,
Simon



Op 26-3-2012 11:46, Andre Fischer schreef:

On 23.03.2012 22:15, Simon Brouwer wrote:

Hi Andre,

I think in a Dutch AOO the following languages should be bundled:
Dutch (nl_NL)
English (en_GB and en_US)
French (fr_FR)
German (de_DE)


After reading your mail again, I suppose that you want dictionaries
nl_NL, en_GB, en_US, fr_FR, and de_DE added for dutch.

I can add all of these except en_GB. The link on [1] lead to dead links
(on an ftp server that is not online anymore.)

I will update the Wiki and main/extensions.lst.

If anyone finds a working en_GB dictionary, please speak up.

-Andre



I have added URLs of these in [1] if missing.

Best regards
Simon.

Op 22-3-2012 10:25, Andre Fischer schreef:

Hi all,

I need your help.

We are now able to include extensions -- dictionaries and others -- into
installation sets, depending on the language(s) for which an
installation set is built.

All that is needed is a list of extensions that are to be bundled for
each language. At the moment this list only contains entries for english
and german.

If you want to have dictionaries included for other languages then you
can do that in one of several ways:

- Edit [1] in the confluence wiki and then tell me about it so that I
can update the main/extensions.lst file. The important part is to
provide working URLs int the Upstream link comment. The URLs may,
however, contain redirections (like the ones from
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries).
Note that you can edit this wiki only when you are a commiter.

- Reply to this message on ooo-dev or personally to me. Again, it is
important that I get working URLs.

- Edit main/extensions.lst yourself. I tried to document the format in
[2] but it should be pretty clear just by looking at extensions.lst.


Best regards,
Andre


[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids

[2]
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Bootstrapping#extensions.lst











--
Vriendelijke groet, Best regards,

Simon Brouwer


Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-23 Thread Simon Brouwer

Hi Andre,

I think in a Dutch AOO the following languages should be bundled:
Dutch (nl_NL)
English (en_GB and en_US)
French (fr_FR)
German (de_DE)

I have added URLs of these in [1] if missing.

Best regards
Simon.

Op 22-3-2012 10:25, Andre Fischer schreef:

Hi all,

I need your help.

We are now able to include extensions -- dictionaries and others -- into
installation sets, depending on the language(s) for which an
installation set is built.

All that is needed is a list of extensions that are to be bundled for
each language. At the moment this list only contains entries for english
and german.

If you want to have dictionaries included for other languages then you
can do that in one of several ways:

- Edit [1] in the confluence wiki and then tell me about it so that I
can update the main/extensions.lst file. The important part is to
provide working URLs int the Upstream link comment. The URLs may,
however, contain redirections (like the ones from
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries).
Note that you can edit this wiki only when you are a commiter.

- Reply to this message on ooo-dev or personally to me. Again, it is
important that I get working URLs.

- Edit main/extensions.lst yourself. I tried to document the format in
[2] but it should be pretty clear just by looking at extensions.lst.


Best regards,
Andre


[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids
[2]
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Bootstrapping#extensions.lst




--
Vriendelijke groet, Best regards,

Simon Brouwer


[RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-03-22 Thread Andre Fischer

Hi all,

I need your help.

We are now able to include extensions -- dictionaries and others -- into 
installation sets, depending on the language(s) for which an 
installation set is built.


All that is needed is a list of extensions that are to be bundled for 
each language.  At the moment this list only contains entries for 
english and german.


If you want to have dictionaries included for other languages then you 
can do that in one of several ways:


- Edit [1] in the confluence wiki and then tell me about it so that I 
can update the main/extensions.lst file.  The important part is to 
provide working URLs int the Upstream link comment.  The URLs may, 
however, contain redirections (like the ones from 
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries).

Note that you can edit this wiki only when you are a commiter.

- Reply to this message on ooo-dev or personally to me.  Again, it is 
important that I get working URLs.


- Edit main/extensions.lst yourself.  I tried to document the format in 
[2] but it should be pretty clear just by looking at extensions.lst.



Best regards,
Andre


[1] 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids
[2] 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Bootstrapping#extensions.lst