Decision Support was: MIE-2008

2008-06-02 Thread Seref Arikan
best termed *the > 'boosted' clinical process*. I like the idea of 'boosted' as it does imply > making something good better. At present there is not a lot of demand as we > have no platform on which to base it. > > I believe the boosted clinical process i

Not entirely related to this mail list...

2008-06-24 Thread Seref Arikan
Apologies for taking the liberty of sharing this with you, but IMHO it is worth seeing. Tim Benson has noticed it first. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=IfprGOiQklU&feature=related Regards Seref -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Decision Support was: MIE-2008

2008-05-31 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi, That's an interesting question, and honestly, my knowledge of archetypes is a little bit rusty to comment on this. However, there are other aspects of OpenEHR related work which I find worthy of discussing in the context of decision support. A decision support system is built on top of other la

Representing constraints in Java reference implementation

2008-11-06 Thread Seref Arikan
Ok, I'll try to ask this as brief and clear as possible: How do you represent a constraint defined on an information model entity in an archetype, in the java ref. implementation? (in an ITS friendly way) Ocean's archetype editor has a nice hierarchy of Constraint classes, which are constructed as

Location info for zilincs-donated (mutable AM/RM)

2008-11-19 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi there, What is the location of the zilincs-donated (*mutable* AM/*RM*) implemenation in the java ref. impl svn repository? I guess it is accompanied by a reference parser for templates too? I'd be really delighted to get a source tree for this implementation. Sorry if I am failing to see what is

Location info for zilincs-donated (mutable AM/RM)

2008-11-19 Thread Seref Arikan
lla Nardon < fabiane at tridedalo.com.br> wrote: > > Seref, > > It is on http://www.openehr.org/svn/ref_impl_java/SANDBOX/zilics-models/ > > There is a parser for templates, too. > > Fabiane > > > Seref Arikan wrote: > > Hi there, > > Wha

Lifecycle of an archetype

2008-11-19 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi, The term lifecycle may not be appropriate for archetypes, and suggestions for a better term are more than welcommed. Assuming that we constrain our interest only to a set of information encapsulated in a single archetype, would you provide the technical lifecycle you can imagine, for an archety

Lifecycle of an archetype

2008-11-25 Thread Seref Arikan
rt of the > model - > > http://www.openehr.org/uml/release-1.0.1/Browsable/_9_0_76d0249_1109157527311_729550_7234Report.html > > - thomas beale > > Seref Arikan wrote: > > Hi, > > The term lifecycle may not be appropriate for archetypes, and > > suggestions fo

Lifecycle of an archetype

2008-11-26 Thread Seref Arikan
he RM but is constrained by the archetype to mean > systolic with units mmHg and range 0 to 1000 etc. > > regards Hugh > > Seref Arikan wrote: > > Hi Tom, > Thanks for the correction of the term. Yes I'm referring to runtime usage > of archetypes. > After taking a

Lifecycle of an archetype

2008-11-26 Thread Seref Arikan
ls' of what the data should look like, while the > actual data may have many. > > - thomas beale > > > Seref Arikan wrote: > > Hi Hugh, > > I am not in my brightest state of my mind at the moment, so I may deny > > that the following belongs to me when I wake

ADL Parsing using the reference parser

2008-11-28 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi there My humble suggestion: download Ocean's archetype editor source, along with a couple of archetypes. Fire up your Visual Studio and walk through the code as you load a single archetype to the editor. I know this is not what you want, but it is probably shortest path to the information you wa

Ocean Archetype Editor source code?

2008-10-29 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi, My attempts to check out Ocean's archetype editor fail with a request for a username/password for svn.oceaninformatics.com I can omit externals in my svn client (should I?), however when I do that only beryllium directory in releases contains a project I can compile and run. Others, including t

Ocean Archetype Editor source code?

2008-10-29 Thread Seref Arikan
ummer at oceaninformatics.com> wrote: > Seref Arikan wrote: > > My attempts to check out Ocean's archetype editor fail with a request > > for a username/password for svn.oceaninformatics.com > > <http://svn.oceaninformatics.com> > > I can omit externals in my svn client (shou

10 Dutch hospitals choose for EPD from Google or Microsoft

2008-09-14 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Berth, Please let me add my set of questions to yours, for I have not been able to figure out the overall scheme of the discussed setup. Maybe its my fault, and I apologize in advance if I've missed the answers in the discussion or on the web. What is the extend of Google's or Microsoft's offer

10 Dutch hospitals choose for EPD from Google or Microsoft

2008-09-14 Thread Seref Arikan
> skype ianmcnicoll > ian at mcmi.co.uk > > Clinical Analyst - Ocean Informatics ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com > > Consultant - IRIS GP Accounts ian at gpacc.co.uk > > Member of BCS Primary Health Care Specialist Group ? www.phcsg.org > > > > 2008/9/14 Seref Ari

Information Model vs AOM

2009-04-01 Thread Seref Arikan
plate id is also in the > data, but can be ignored as well). > > - thomas beale > > > > Seref Arikan wrote: > > Hi Pariya, > Comments are inline, and corrections are most welcommed in case I am wrong > about any of them :) > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:49 PM,

Question about the item property of Item_Tree

2009-04-01 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi, Why is "item" field of Item_tree of type List? I feel that it is causing a litle bit of overlap betwen Item_tree and item_table. Item_table has a rows property with type List, which is nice for representing multi column tables, but when it comes to a single column table, item_tree also seem to

Question about the item property of Item_Tree

2009-04-02 Thread Seref Arikan
r one: do what the doctor says :) I asked to question from a purely technical point of view, knowing the answer should have a clinical argument somehow. Kind regards Seref > > Cheers, > Rong > > 2009/4/1 Seref Arikan : > > Hi, > > Why is "item" field of Item

Layers of interoperability, OWL and openEHR

2009-04-21 Thread Seref Arikan
Dear members of the list, I'd appreciate your opinions and guidance about a particular topic. As most of you probably know, the work in the ontology domain has been the flagship of semantic interoperability for many projects now, and there is a large amount of researchers active in the field. I've

Layers of interoperability, OWL and openEHR

2009-04-22 Thread Seref Arikan
t; > terminology/classification). > > Let humans use words in a syntax (Reference Model) to create freely > > all sentences/screens (Templates) they need using agreed documentation > > patterns (Archetypes), using tools based on an Archetype Model. > > > > And that fo

Layers of interoperability, OWL and openEHR

2009-04-22 Thread Seref Arikan
they need to document. > > Humans are not very precise but language works rather efficiently and > > well enough. > > > > Modeling knowledge in ontologies is an interesting academic exercise. > > Modeling the complex real life is an interesting academic exercise. > > But..

Layers of interoperability, OWL and openEHR

2009-04-22 Thread Seref Arikan
this investigated :) I've been curious about your work for quite some time, I should create some time to take a deeper look into it. Kind regards Seref On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Tim Cook wrote: > On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 22:06 +0100, Seref Arikan wrote: > [off the topic, needs

Layers of interoperability, OWL and openEHR

2009-04-22 Thread Seref Arikan
> The Netherlands > > T: +31 252544896 > M: +31 620347088 > E: gfrer at luna.nl > > > Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary > Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin 11 Nov 1755 > > > > > &g

Layers of interoperability, OWL and openEHR

2009-04-23 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Tom, Some agreement seems to appear after all :) Just to cover the points I've picked up: there are different views about what is offered by different realms, and the extend to which integration of these realms is possible. It is great to see these options expressed. In addition to absolutely va

Developing OpenEHR teaching material.

2009-08-17 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Derek, Could you please clarify the content you have in mind? Hands on openEHR usage spans quite a large set of topics. Are you interested in actual implementation of the specifications? >From your message I get the impression that you are more interested in modelling. In that case, maybe clinic

Eclipse Tooling

2009-02-05 Thread Seref Arikan
released as an open- > source OHT project, we'd be happy to go into more detail with anyone > that's interested in such an approach and its potential benefit to the > openEHR community. > > Brandon > > On Feb 3, 2009, at 11:21 PM, Seref Arikan wrote: > > > Hi, &g

Open source IDE to use Ocean's Archetype editor code

2009-02-27 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi there, For those who are interested in Ocean's Archetype editor code, SharpDevelop works quite fine. ( http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/ ) It is an open source .NET development environment. I've just checked out the TRUNK branch from svn, and SharpDevelop loaded the solution without any

is OpenEHR.org down?

2009-01-11 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi there, I can not access to openehr.org from Turkey at the moment, and I've also tried a proxy in USA. Is it me only, or is the site down? Kind Regards Seref -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

is OpenEHR.org down?

2009-01-12 Thread Seref Arikan
down indeed. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Stef > > > > > > Op 11 jan 2009, om 14:34 heeft Seref Arikan het volgende geschreven: > > > >> Hi there, > >> I can not access to openehr.org from Turkey at the moment, and I've >

is OpenEHR.org down?

2009-01-12 Thread Seref Arikan
ut i also cannot access the www.openehr.org website! > > brgds > Hans > > Seref Arikan schrieb: > > > Unfortunately that is not the case for me at the moment. Still down? > > Best > Seref > > -- > >

optional existence, cardinality and occurrences.

2009-07-03 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi there, I need to check out the source code to for details, but at the moment I am using the combinations of cardinality, occurance and existence to figure out the semantics of certain choice operations. For example, when a clinician wants a field with zero or up to N options, having these in AO

Twittering on healthcare and openEHR

2009-07-03 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Heather, As far as I can see, the technology that has been introduced into our lives in the last 10 years have the following effects in clinical domain: Internet: clinicians can now reach other clinicians at the other side of the world and disagree with them. Web 2.0: Clinicians can now disagre

Announcement of the release of Opereffa by the openEHR Foundation

2009-07-05 Thread Seref Arikan
Thanks Tim, I've been using an older version of Ocean's archetype editor, will fix it. Cheers Seref On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Tim Cook wrote: > > > > > > > > >Announcement of the release of Opereffa by the openEHR > > > Foundation > >

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-21 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi, Even if it feels a little bit too implementation related I'd like to get your opinions about the various UI implementation ideas/practices you may have, especially about web based applications. I've written an initial set of things here : http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/projects/Technology+

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-22 Thread Seref Arikan
hape up. Thanks again for the input, and the useful discussion. Kind regards Seref On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:05 PM, gjb wrote: > Hi Seref, > > Seref Arikan wrote: > > I've written an initial set of things here : > > > http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/projects/Te

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-22 Thread Seref Arikan
Thanks Helma, Very interesting feedback. Considering one of the authors, Tony Austin, is in the next room, and here I am hearing about this work from you :) Kind regards Seref On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, hepabolu wrote: > Seref Arikan said the following on 22/7/09 11:39: > > Now

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-23 Thread Seref Arikan
15:16:20 +0200 >> From: hepabolu >> Subject: Re: Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end >> To: For openEHR technical discussions >> Message-ID: <4A671124.7020002 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >&g

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end (gjb)

2009-07-29 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Tim, Two questions regarding your comments: >I want to speak on (what **I** think) is this underlying REAL problem. I could not understand what the real problem you describe is. Could you please define it once more? >But the reality is that we have been battling this for more than 45 >years w

Information Model vs AOM

2009-03-31 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Pariya, Comments are inline, and corrections are most welcommed in case I am wrong about any of them :) On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Pariya Kashfi wrote: > Hi,I've three basic questions about IM and AOM: > Assuming that a connection between GUI forms and templates( consequently > Archetyp

informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-11-30 Thread Seref Arikan
Even if this is slightly off topic considering the original post that started this topic, I'd like to suggest another alternative to streaming/phone calls etc. http://videolectures.net/ is a fantastic source of information with video recordings of key academic events. Instead of streaming which wou

{Disarmed} Re: OpenEHR / ISO 13606 converter

2009-09-17 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Tim, Unless gmail's threading system is making me miss the mail I am looking for, I think I do not have the beginning of this discussion. If there is a tool about openEHR and 13606 conversion, I'd certainly like to know more about it. Kind regards Seref Ps: The exception you've given seems to

Documentation Desparation

2009-09-25 Thread Seref Arikan
Dear all, I'd like to express my concerns about practical outcomes of suggested changes, changes based on potential benefits. I'd appreciate your input about the use cases we are discussing just to make sure that I get this right. First of all, translation of openEHR documentation to other language

Documentation Desparation

2009-09-25 Thread Seref Arikan
gt; PDF and Framemaker formats. I'll happily accept .doc files at this > point. > > It seems that we have a different perspective on what the sense of trust > in the community is also. But that is an entirely other subject. :-) > > --Tim > > > On Fri, 2009-09-25 a

Documentation Desparation

2009-09-28 Thread Seref Arikan
documentation problem. >> >> While I believe in and most importantly own a couple open source projects >> myself, I see many from FOSS rounds getting into the pitfall of seeing >> software as either evil or good or having the illusion of open source as a >> merit b

HL7 modelling approach

2010-12-11 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, I am interested in the details of some of the statements below. We've been working on generic methods of electronic healthcare standards implementation at CHIME. We have different teams focusing on different standards, and developing common tools and methods is an attractive goal for us.

HL7 modelling approach

2010-12-11 Thread Seref Arikan
Apologies for forgetting to address William Goossen in the mail below. It appears I've deleted a little bit too much from the original message. Best Regards S On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Seref Arikan < serefarikan at kurumsalteknoloji.com> wrote: > Greetings, > I am

Opereffa and Project Bosphorus

2010-12-14 Thread Seref Arikan
contributing back to it, we have decided to leverage the capabilities of the Eiffel code base by developing a Java layer around it. Our work, named Project Bosphorus will enable users of Java to make use of this Eiffel code base. Bosphorus has been under development at CHIME by a team led by Seref Arikan

CUI discussions and CURIO project

2010-12-14 Thread Seref Arikan
the upcoming releases will allow more parties to explore and use openEHR. Seref Arikan and David Ingram -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20101214/bee6a

New release of the Clinical Knowledge Manager (CKM)

2010-12-16 Thread Seref Arikan
As always, great work Sebastian! Congrats. Kind regards Seref On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Sebastian Garde < sebastian.garde at oceaninformatics.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > We have released a new version of the Clinical Knowledge Manager at > http://www.openehr.org/knowledge > > Once an ar

Data retrieval in opereffa

2010-12-23 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Pariya, The sessionId is the identifier for an instance of an archetype based form. Follow the steps you've given: you have a patientId(contextId) at hand. When you say "then data is retreived based on that id", you need to think about the implementation of this requirement. How would you retrie

Templates and visualization

2010-03-16 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Anton, On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Anton Brass < anton.brass at helmholtz-muenchen.de> wrote: > Hey Alberto, > > I know three approaches which can be used for editing and creating > archetype based data. Maybe there are even more. > > First of all, of course, the openEHR Opereffa ( > htt

opereffa wrappers

2010-03-19 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Pariya, Did you see http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/projects/Opereffa+Project ? Any particular questions? Kind regards Seref On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Pariya Kashfi wrote: > Hi there, > Does anyone know if there exist any documentation for opereffa framework? > The only thing I

opereffa wrappers

2010-03-23 Thread Seref Arikan
> to do this... > > Sincerely > Pariya > > On Mar 19, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Seref Arikan wrote: > > Hi Pariya, > Did you see http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/projects/Opereffa+Project > ? Any particular questions? > > Kind regards > Seref > > > On Th

a-path and values

2010-03-27 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Pariya, For some reason, I am getting mails from the group with a delay. Anyway, regarding your question; the code you have given is doing what it is supposed to do. It is returning a QuantityInfo object, containing the quantity magnitude and unit. When this method is called, there is a datavalu

Why is OpenEHR adoption so slow?

2010-11-02 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Pablo, A very useful insight into the issues indeed. This is one topic that may end up being a quite long discussion, but I feel it is a topic that is worth laying out, not only today, but every couple of years or so, to see where we are. I'll provide my personal views here. openEHR is not a sm

Why is OpenEHR adoption so slow?

2010-11-17 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, I can see a specific pattern emerging in the recent mails of this thread, to which I'd like to response, and contribute. I will repeat my point I've made some time ago in this discussion, and by doing so I will insist on it. To deliver what openEHR is capable of, there is a significant r

Why is OpenEHR adoption so slow?

2010-11-17 Thread Seref Arikan
siness model can take, but I'd like to have that discussion with clear suggestions/list for work items, and people who will be responsible with it. Best Regards Seref On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Erik Sundvall wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 16:27, Seref Arikan > wrote: > &g

Templates, node identifiers and data instances

2010-11-19 Thread Seref Arikan
Did anybody else experience the following problem trying to follow Thomas's link? In my firefox 3.6.12 under win xp with Adobe reader, I get a blank, black tab at first, and a refresh pops up a window that says a dict object is expected. Right clicking on the link and saving it works.. Best Regard

More on ISO 21090 complexity

2010-11-20 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, I'd say that simplification is a must in medical informatics, but I would not attempt to bring that simplification to the standards or the scope of medical informatics. The level of detail and complexity we introduce into our solutions is there because most of the time, even with the bes

More on ISO 21090 complexity

2010-11-21 Thread Seref Arikan
Well said! Here is my take on the problem. Imagine having N barrels, and a number of pipes, connecting these barrels. Barrels are filled with water, and pipes carry water from barrel A to barrel A. At an abstract level, both barrels and pipes contain water, but they are supposed to allow different

openEHR and iPhone/iPad anyone?

2010-09-23 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Olof, Since your query includes people interested in the topic, I end up being in the result set. I'll write down a couple of points below. I am really interested in this, but for me Mac is not an affordable platform at the moment. I simply can't cover the cost of having a proper Mac and an iPa

ADL Workbench beta 5

2011-12-01 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi David, On behalf of Thomas, I'd like to relay the following respone to your question: I know it needs work, but this documented example schema should help. the link is: http://www.openehr.org/svn/knowledge2/TRUNK/rm_schemas/EXAMPLE.bmm.txt - thomas On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 6:56 AM, David M

Could YAML replace dADL as human readable AOM serialization format?

2011-12-05 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Erik, I'll repeat a point I've tried to make before, since it is relevant in the context of binary serialization. I've used protocol buffers serialization of AOM in Bosphorus (I'll put the source code under Opereffa's svn soon, it appears I don't even have time to clean it up) These are very fa

Could YAML replace dADL as human readable AOM serialization format?

2011-12-06 Thread Seref Arikan
is useful, it is just that in my humble opinion, some discussions are more useful than others if this standard into which I am heavily investing is to go forward. Best regards Seref On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Erik Sundvall wrote: > Hi Seref! > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 13:32, S

Could YAML replace dADL as human readable AOM serialization format?

2011-12-07 Thread Seref Arikan
or formats that > we don't easily see because we have gotten used to it, then now is a good > time to try reducing it while the amount of patient data using openEHR is > limited. It will be harder to change things later. Getting the template > formalism integrated with

Could YAML replace dADL as human readable AOM serialization format?

2011-12-07 Thread Seref Arikan
ter.gummer at oceaninformatics.com> wrote: > On 07/12/2011, at 22:54, Seref Arikan wrote: > > > Your comments about dADL below, as well as your original motivations is > hinting at what I'm opposing to. Your own words: > > "Having an archetype specific objec

YAML serialization for AOM models added to Bosphorus

2011-12-07 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, I've added YAML output to Bosphorus web services and to simple web application. You can use http://opereffa.chime.ucl.ac.uk/bosphorus/ to see the YAML output for existing archetypes served by Thomas Beale's Eiffel code base. It is an early release, like this the rest of the Bosphorus an

open source openEHR-related EHR systems; How do you want to be cited...

2011-12-13 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, Opereffa is a project that is used in my PhD work, and it has not been published yet. The url: http://opereffa.chime.ucl.ac.uk is pretty much the only way to refer to the project. For authors, the following list can be used: Sevket Seref Arikan, University College London, CHIME

13606 revisited - list proposal

2011-12-15 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Tom, Yes, such a list would be good. Regards Seref On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Thomas Beale < thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com> wrote: > > At the CIMI meeting last week and elsewhere, I have noticed a lot of > interest in the ISO 13606 2012 revision, specifically in a) whether the

Ruby implementation version1.0.0 released

2011-12-24 Thread Seref Arikan
Great work Shinji! It has been a while since I've used Ruby, but I guess I'll have setup a dev environment just to take a look at your work :) Also well done with the Apache licence, we'll probably follow you on that one! Best regards Seref On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 8:34 AM, KOBAYASHI, Shinji wro

opereffa ArchetypeWrapper and unit types

2011-01-12 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Pariya, An archetype may introduce a constraint so that during the recording of data, you may use a quantity and one of the allowed units. Just think about the difference between Fahrenheit and Celsius degrees (Thomas Beale's example). Wrappers do have access to ADL, but in these kind of situati

Dual Model EHR implementation

2011-06-03 Thread Seref Arikan
Alberto, I am not sure if your second question is entirely valid. If you are talking about the modelling granularity of the archetypes, the impact of this factor on performance is directly related to the design you are using for implementation. So someone may claim that the granularity is OK, while

Dual Model EHR implementation

2011-06-03 Thread Seref Arikan
abases, but I > don't know enough about the storing of these documents to know if something > like this could be used. Just wondering if anyone has tried this or conceived > how this may or may not be possible. > > Dr. Robert Stark > > > On Jun 3, 2011, at 8:12 AM, Se

Dual Model EHR implementation

2011-06-07 Thread Seref Arikan
and/or XML > documents, which is what I assume to be the OpenEHR approach. > > Thanks, > > Randy Neall > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Seref Arikan > wrote: >> >> Alberto, >> I am not sure if your second question is entirely valid. If you are >

Dual Model EHR implementation

2011-06-07 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Rene, I did not mean to suggest that EAV is the only design that one should use. I guess a better attempt to express what I have in mind is this: people use relational design too heavily in DB layer, mostly due to benefit of tooling in other layers. Good analogy about the pudding :) On Tue, Ju

Is not intervalofinteger supposed to be in BaseTypes.xsd document (current baseline) ?

2011-06-30 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, The type intervalofinteger is documented under BaseTypes schema according to http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TRUNK/publishing/its/XML-schema/documentation/BaseTypes.xsd.html However, the xsd does not contain any definitions for this type, nor any other xsds under the same branc

Is not intervalofinteger supposed to be in BaseTypes.xsd document (current baseline) ?

2011-06-30 Thread Seref Arikan
btw, they seem to be in place in the 1.0.1 branch.. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Seref Arikan wrote: > Greetings, > The type intervalofinteger is documented under BaseTypes schema > according to > http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TRUNK/publishing/its/XML-schema/d

future ADL-versions

2011-03-22 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, I have a single question about this particular requirement/idea: why? Archetypes are model artefacts. That is it. They are supposed to describe domain models in a certain way. Behaviour or software that uses those models is a completely different thing. I can understand a constraint whi

future ADL-versions

2011-03-23 Thread Seref Arikan
ts (and this is still before we get to the GUI, as I may have the > same conditional constraint requirement in an integration scenario). > > Heath > >> -Original Message- >> From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical- >> bounces at op

future ADL-versions

2011-03-23 Thread Seref Arikan
same conditional constraint requirement in an integration scenario). >> >> Heath >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org [mailto:openehr-technical- >>> bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Seref Arikan >>&g

future ADL-versions

2011-03-23 Thread Seref Arikan
t; Anyway, most RDB's support stored procedures. Why would that be? I hope > not to encourage bad design? > > Am I coming close to understanding of your criticism? > > Bert > > Op 23-03-11 12:07, Seref Arikan schreef: >> Also look at heartbeat is the problem here.

Use Archetypes and ADL file in Java

2011-03-30 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Alessandro, Let me say this in advance; none of what is written below is there to discourage you, or to express any negative remarks about your intention. I think the best thing I can do is to give you a picture of where you are now, and others may help in other ways. You have a thesis to compl

One model vs One framework in e-health .....

2011-05-06 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, Minor point about one of the projects; Opereffa, and what it is trying to do. To serve the community spirit of the openEHR foundation, I've put a lot of functionality into Opereffa, which would not be necessary for the real purpose it was built for: my PhD work. Due to well known, and re

Bosphorus web services beta announcement

2011-11-15 Thread Seref Arikan
share our work with the community. Kind regards Seref Arikan & Professor David Ingram, UCL, CHIME -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/2015/f9b1e3c1/attachment.html>

Bosphorus web services beta announcement

2011-11-15 Thread Seref Arikan
rs, > Rong > > On 15 November 2011 10:45, Seref Arikan > wrote: > > Dear members of the openEHR community, > > > > Having reached a point where project Bosphorus has reached a functional > > state, we have deployed and experimental web service under Opereffa&#

Bosphorus web services beta announcement

2011-11-15 Thread Seref Arikan
M items, and it you notice errors in the XML > output, please let us know so that we can fix them. > > We would like to thank Thomas Beale of Ocean Informatics for providing > access to his Eiffel source code and his contributions to this work, which > enables us to sha

Bosphorus web services beta announcement

2011-11-15 Thread Seref Arikan
Seref On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Erik Sundvall wrote: > Hi! > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:45, Seref Arikan > wrote: > > The web service exposes the archetype parser functionality of Thomas > Beale's > > Eiffel code base with XML and JSON output. &g

CKM Archetypes in XML don't seem to validate properly against available XSDs

2011-09-06 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Rong, I'm working on this; an AOM to JAXB binding. I'm hoping that I'll be able to give more details in a couple of weeks. Regards Seref On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Rong Chen wrote: > Hi Sebastian, > To my knowledge, no one is maintaining the AOM xml-serialiser from the Java > Reference

Bosphorus Web Services and an open source communication layer for openEHR implementers

2011-09-06 Thread Seref Arikan
. This is an open source project, and source code will be available with the release. We would like to thank Thomas Beale for his excellent open source Eiffel code, and his support and feedback during the development of Bosphorus. Seref Arikan and David Ingram UCL, CHIME

Bosphorus Web Services and an open source communication layer for openEHR implementers

2011-09-07 Thread Seref Arikan
k aimed for web-based > approaches. > > // Erik > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 19:32, Seref Arikan > wrote: >> We announced Project Bosphorus from UCL, CHIME at the end of 2010 ... > ___ > openEHR-technical mai

openEHR Transition: Web-based tools?

2011-09-10 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Ian, You are raising concerns from a tool user perspective, and anything related to your user experience IMHO belongs to another discussion. Web based applications are not there because they are supposed to be collaboration hubs. The recent explosion (and in a way, a bubble) of social networkin

openEHR Transition: Web-based tools?

2011-09-11 Thread Seref Arikan
. Regards Seref On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Peter Gummer wrote: > Seref Arikan wrote: > >> ... ?Unfortunately, most modern >> software development technologies arrive with their own runtimes, >> (.net framework, jre etc) and it quickly becomes a nightmare to deploy &

openEHR Transition: Web-based tools?

2011-09-12 Thread Seref Arikan
> ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com > > Clinical Modelling Consultant,?Ocean Informatics, UK > openEHR Clinical Knowledge Editor www.openehr.org/knowledge > Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL > BCS Primary Health Care ?www.phcsg.org > > > > > On 11 Sep

future of CEN 13606 data types

2011-09-19 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Tom, Thanks for the update, really good news. Did you by any chance come across any discussions regarding the formalism for specifications? Are we still talking about XSD here? On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Thomas Beale wrote: > > At the HL7 meeting last week in San Diego, Grahame Grieve p

Tools for collaborative working

2011-09-19 Thread Seref Arikan
One point I'd like underline explicitly is: let us stay away from the management of an actual server if we can. All the discussions so far seem to imply this, but I wanted to express this clearly. Regardless of what we choose, if we can avoid having an actual machine to take care of, we'll do much

the semantics of CONTAINS in AQL

2012-08-01 Thread Seref Arikan
Greeetings, Looking at the current documentation for AQL, it is not clear to me if a CONTAINS constraint should apply to all children of an RM type, or to root level children only. So if I use a statement such as "EHR e CONTAINS COMPOSITION c . " would this mean that I'm looking for all EHR ins

Should not node identifiers in runtime paths be mandatory?

2012-08-14 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, According to adl 1.5 document on the openEHR web site (issued 25 Jan 2012), Section 5.3.6.3, the runtime paths for single valued attributes can omit node identifer. The example given in the document uses miles per hour and km per hour alternatives. The thing is, if the runtime path is wh

Should not node identifiers in runtime paths be mandatory?

2012-08-14 Thread Seref Arikan
loss of semantics Regards Seref On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Seref Arikan < serefarikan at kurumsalteknoloji.com> wrote: > Greetings, > According to adl 1.5 document on the openEHR web site (issued 25 Jan > 2012), Section 5.3.6.3, the runtime paths for single valued attrib

Should not node identifiers in runtime paths be mandatory?

2012-08-14 Thread Seref Arikan
Thank Tom, Somehow the text gave me the impression that use of archetype Node Id was optional, which is clearly not the case. Kind regards Seref On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Thomas Beale < thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com> wrote: > On 14/08/2012 10:34, Seref Ari

Should not node identifiers in runtime paths be mandatory?

2012-08-14 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Pablo, My problem was not what you've described. I thought there was a gap in the spec that let data exist without a node Id when there is need for one. That was not the case. As long as the archetypeNodeId is in the data, there is no need for a rule that enforces node id based path usage, beca

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