RE: Building OpenJFX for the first time

2016-06-17 Thread John C. Turnbull
://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/Building+OpenJFX Dave Hill updated it recently, so it is reasonably current. -- Kevin John C. Turnbull wrote: > I would like to set up a development environment for the OpenJFX > project but have never attempted this before. > > > > I am very f

Building OpenJFX for the first time

2016-06-17 Thread John C. Turnbull
I would like to set up a development environment for the OpenJFX project but have never attempted this before. I am very familiar with all 3 major Java IDEs with my preference (in order of most favourite to least favourite) is Eclipse, IntelliJ, NetBeans (so whichever one is "best" doesn't

RoboVM: lost to a competitor?

2016-01-01 Thread John C. Turnbull
Now that Xamarin owns RoboVM, will it still be available for use in porting JavaFX to mobiles such as done currently by Gluon given that Xamarin and JavaFX are competitors? Thanks, -jct

RE: RoboVM: lost to a competitor?

2016-01-01 Thread John C. Turnbull
OK, thanks Johan – that’s good news. Do you know if the proposed Oracle JVM for iOS will support AOT or not? Thanks, -jct From: Johan Vos [mailto:johan@gluonhq.com] Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2016 05:17 To: John C. Turnbull <ozem...@ozemail.com.au> Cc: openj

Android and the OpenJDK

2015-12-31 Thread John C. Turnbull
I am a tad confused. Google has announced that its next version of Android will be based entirely on the OpenJDK. Could this be a eureka moment for JavaFX? I mean, wouldn't it be the case then that using JavaFX to develop an Android app would actually be a way to create a "native" app, hence

WebGL support in WebView

2015-06-19 Thread John C. Turnbull
When will WebView support WebGL? Thanks, -jct

Re: Text rendering on Windows

2014-08-18 Thread John C. Turnbull
if it is possible, Jim ? Thank you, Felipe On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:28 AM, John C. Turnbull ozem...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Hi Felipe, I just finished watching your excellent presentation at SVJUGFX on text rendering with JavaFX and have a couple of multi part questions: 1) I noted

Re: Text rendering on Windows

2014-08-18 Thread John C. Turnbull
Richard, I totally agree on the subjective nature of font appreciation but that's not really what I am highlighting here. What I am seeing is a difference between the quality of font rendering between JFX and native apps on the same machine with the same font etc. and the JFX rendering is

Re: Text rendering on Windows

2014-08-18 Thread John C. Turnbull
releases to test in the not too distant future... Btw, as I mentioned in another thread we are looking to pull LCD-on-Canvas into an 8-update release (possibly 8u40). -- Kevin John C. Turnbull wrote: Hi Felipe, Thanks for your prompt and informative response. I won't be able

RE: Should Canvas have been Image subclass instead of Node?

2014-04-22 Thread John C. Turnbull
How would you (easily) use it in the scenegraph if it wasn't a Node? -Original Message- From: openjfx-dev [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Martin Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:16 AM To: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Mailing Subject: Should Canvas have

Playing media and having running animations concurrently?

2013-09-17 Thread John C. Turnbull
Are there any threading issues regarding paying an audio clip with MediaPlayer (a WAV file) and having a number of animations happening concurrently? I am finding that my JavaFX application can play the WAV file just fine when I start the application but as soon as I kick-off a series of

RE: 3D scene antialiasing

2013-09-11 Thread John C. Turnbull
I have created https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-32881 but cannot see how I can attach anything... how do I do that? -Original Message- From: John C. Turnbull [mailto:ozem...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2013 07:37 To: 'Chien Yang' Cc: 'Kevin Rushforth'; 'openjfx

RE: JavaFX applications turning to black screen after some time

2013-09-10 Thread John C. Turnbull
screen after some time Seems to be related to this issue: https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-30362 And no, unfortunately Scene Builder is not always immune to this, I got it with SB regularly HTH, Jerome On 9/10/13 7:55 AM, John C. Turnbull wrote: I am not sure if it is a known issue but any

RE: JavaFX applications turning to black screen after some time

2013-09-10 Thread John C. Turnbull
[mailto:jerome.cam...@oracle.com] Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:01 To: John C. Turnbull Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Subject: Re: JavaFX applications turning to black screen after some time And I realize you are certainly on Fx 2.2, since although we are working hard on it, SB on Fx 8

RE: 3D scene antialiasing

2013-09-10 Thread John C. Turnbull
Message- From: Kevin Rushforth [mailto:kevin.rushfo...@oracle.com] Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:01 To: John C. Turnbull Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Subject: Re: 3D scene antialiasing Yes, it should be working for both D3D (as of b105) and OpenGL (earlier than that). -- Kevin John

Media classes still missing from JavaDoc

2013-09-09 Thread John C. Turnbull
Just FYI, media classes are still missing from the JavaDoc for JavaFX in JDK 8 b105. -jct

FW: Media classes still missing from JavaDoc

2013-09-09 Thread John C. Turnbull
Sorry to harp on about this but the media classes are missing from b106 JavaDoc as well in case Oracle is not aware of this. From: John C. Turnbull [mailto:ozem...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Monday, 9 September 2013 20:31 To: 'openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net' Subject: Media classes still missing from

RE: Media classes still missing from JavaDoc

2013-09-09 Thread John C. Turnbull
MADNESS :-). On Sep 9, 2013, at 8:08 PM, John C. Turnbull ozem...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Sorry to harp on about this but the media classes are missing from b106 JavaDoc as well in case Oracle is not aware of this. From: John C. Turnbull [mailto:ozem...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Monday, 9

3D scene antialiasing

2013-09-09 Thread John C. Turnbull
Could someone please let me know if support for 3D scene antialiasing is supposed to be working in JDK8 b106? If not, when is this feature expected to be implemented? Thanks, -jct

JavaFX applications turning to black screen after some time

2013-09-09 Thread John C. Turnbull
I am not sure if it is a known issue but any JavaFX application I run and then leave minimised for some time (say 15mins+) and then restore will have an entirely black window with nothing actually visible. This is on Windows 7 and Scene Builder curiously seems to be immune to this problem.

RE: Poor quality font rendering

2013-08-28 Thread John C. Turnbull
this helps, Felipe On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:42 AM, John C. Turnbull wrote: I am still hoping someone can answer my questions on this topic (included here for convenience): 1. When will both (1) and (2) make it into a JDK8 development build? 2. Are there any other plans/techniques to improve font

3D Transitions?

2013-08-28 Thread John C. Turnbull
Now that JavaFX 8 will include 3D support, are there plans for a set of Transitions especially suitable for 3D animations? Thanks, -jct

RE: Poor quality font rendering

2013-08-28 Thread John C. Turnbull
Cc: John C. Turnbull; openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Mailing Subject: Re: Poor quality font rendering Are you seeing the different defaults for LCD smoothing? The Text default is Grey and the Control default (which Label inherits) is LCD. On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 5:23 AM, Scott Palmer swpal

RE: Poor quality font rendering

2013-08-27 Thread John C. Turnbull
so I don't see why there would be any difference. Thanks, -jct -Original Message- From: openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of John C. Turnbull Sent: Friday, 23 August 2013 17:23 To: 'Phil Race'; 'John Hendrikx'; 'Felipe Heidrich' Cc

RE: Poor quality font rendering

2013-08-23 Thread John C. Turnbull
OK, thanks to everyone who has contributed input to this thread - it's been most enlightening. So, in summary, it seems that the dark art of font rendering is complex and made more so by having to support numerous different operating systems, font engines, GPUs and monitors etc. I am sure JavaFX

RE: Poor quality font rendering

2013-08-22 Thread John C. Turnbull
enhancements planned? Thanks, -jct -Original Message- From: Richard Bair [mailto:richard.b...@oracle.com] Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2013 01:16 To: John C. Turnbull Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Subject: Re: Poor quality font rendering We're using the native font rasterizer. Can you

RE: Poor quality font rendering

2013-08-22 Thread John C. Turnbull
21, 2013, at 5:53 AM, John C. Turnbull wrote: I have only really tested JavaFX extensively on Windows so my comments here apply mainly to that platform. It seems that even with a font smoothing type of LCD, font rendering in JavaFX is not at the same level of quality of native

RE: Poor quality font rendering

2013-08-22 Thread John C. Turnbull
colored fringes on my glyphs. On 21/08/2013 14:53, John C. Turnbull wrote: I have only really tested JavaFX extensively on Windows so my comments here apply mainly to that platform. It seems that even with a font smoothing type of LCD, font rendering in JavaFX is not at the same level

Re: Poor quality font rendering

2013-08-22 Thread John C. Turnbull
:39, John C. Turnbull wrote: John H, it may be just me but pretty much *all* the fonts in your screenshot look quite poor and noticeably different from native font rendering. If you look for instance at the text in the Plot section, to me that text looks awful. Is that inside a WebView

Re: Poor quality font rendering

2013-08-22 Thread John C. Turnbull
not sure if this is still the case, but contrast is very important for text and you should make sure its as high as possible. -phil. On 8/22/2013 11:35 AM, John C. Turnbull wrote: Am I the only one who looks at that screenshot and thinks that the fonts look really bad and obviously

Poor quality font rendering

2013-08-21 Thread John C. Turnbull
I have only really tested JavaFX extensively on Windows so my comments here apply mainly to that platform. It seems that even with a font smoothing type of LCD, font rendering in JavaFX is not at the same level of quality of native applications. My current experiences are with JavaFX 8 b103

Brick Breaker ball jitter

2013-08-06 Thread John C. Turnbull
I seem to remember some time ago that work was done on reducing the jitter in the ball's motion in the Brick Breaker demo in Ensemble8. Did this ever make it into the main line? I ask because I have just installed JDK 8 b101 and the ball still shows very significant jitter in its motion on

RE: JavaFX in JDK 8 b100 seems to be broken on Windows

2013-07-30 Thread John C. Turnbull
Thanks Peter, does that mean we have to wait till b101? -Original Message- From: openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of Peter Zhelezniakov Sent: Tuesday, 30 July 2013 21:00 To: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Subject: Re: JavaFX in JDK

Re: JavaFX Sightings (forked from Re: Can JavaFX do CAD?)

2013-07-29 Thread John C. Turnbull
hub of the JavaFX community than the java.net community page? Regards, John -Original Message- From: openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of John C. Turnbull Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 5:20 PM To: 'Daniel Zwolenski

JavaFX in JDK 8 b100 seems to be broken on Windows

2013-07-29 Thread John C. Turnbull
I run Ensemble8 and clicking on any demo results in: Exception in thread JavaFX Application Thread java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: D:\Java\jdk\1.8.0\jre\bin\jfxwebkit.dll: Can't find dependent libraries at java.lang.ClassLoader$NativeLibrary.load(Native Method)

RE: JavaFX in JDK 8 b100 seems to be broken on Windows

2013-07-29 Thread John C. Turnbull
It is reported as an issue with WebView but unfortunately it means that Ensemble8 cannot run any demo at all :-( -Original Message- From: Jonathan Giles [mailto:jonathan.gi...@oracle.com] Sent: Tuesday, 30 July 2013 09:53 To: John C. Turnbull Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Subject: Re

RE: Antialiasing in 3D

2013-07-26 Thread John C. Turnbull
will compare with native iPhone and WebGL apps in terms of quality and performance. Thanks, John -Original Message- From: Richard Bair [mailto:richard.b...@oracle.com] Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013 03:51 To: John C. Turnbull Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Subject: Re: Antialiasing in 3D

RE: Can JavaFX do CAD?

2013-07-26 Thread John C. Turnbull
-Original Message- From: Richard Bair [mailto:richard.b...@oracle.com] Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2013 01:40 To: John C. Turnbull Cc: 'Daniel Zwolenski'; openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Subject: Re: Can JavaFX do CAD? For Flash, there are literally millions of examples of fancy/complex/impressive

RE: Can JavaFX do CAD?

2013-07-26 Thread John C. Turnbull
there using it right? In the end it doesn't matter if I personally see enormous potential for JavaFX if I cannot convince others to see what I see. -jct From: Daniel Zwolenski [mailto:zon...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2013 09:12 To: John C. Turnbull Cc: Richard Bair; openjfx-dev

JDK 8 samples still b97 instead of b98

2013-07-17 Thread John C. Turnbull
I am not sure who to mention this to but the JavaFX examples on the JDK 8 page are still stuck at b97 even though b98 of the JDK is there. This means that the Ensemble8 app is still not present in the set of samples. Can someone fix this? -jct

JavaFX properties usage out of context?

2013-07-16 Thread John C. Turnbull
I am very impressed with the JavaFX properties and bindings functionality and feel that it is far more general in scope than just a UI toolkit like JavaFX. For me, I think the entire feature should be moved to a standard Java package so that it can readily be used in non-JavaFX applications.

Re: JavaFX8 on iPhone! It works!

2013-07-07 Thread John C. Turnbull
I totally agree. I have always expected Google to move away from everything Java or Java-related after the Oracle court case and several industry pundits are expecting the same thing. GWT will become Dart based (if they retain it at all) and I wouldn't be surprised to see C or C++ become the

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-21 Thread John C. Turnbull
, yes. However I don't believe we've played with the kerning metrics yet (Felipe?) Richard On Jun 20, 2013, at 9:43 PM, John C. Turnbull ozem...@ozemail.com.au wrote: So when will we see this new native font rendering? Is it in b94? Also, will this result in an improvement in rendering

Custom shaders for JavaFX

2013-06-21 Thread John C. Turnbull
I have posted before about my belief that it is essential for JavaFX to support custom shaders before its upcoming 3D API can really be considered fully fledged. Indeed I truly believe that this is an absolutely critical feature and that without it JavaFX will not be adopted for serious 3D

RE: Custom shaders for JavaFX

2013-06-21 Thread John C. Turnbull
Message- From: Richard Bair [mailto:richard.b...@oracle.com] Sent: Friday, 21 June 2013 17:41 To: John C. Turnbull Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Subject: Re: Custom shaders for JavaFX 1. What are Oracle's plans (if any) for custom shader support in future versions of JavaFX? What we've

Re: javafx-font opensourced

2013-06-20 Thread John C. Turnbull
So when will we see this new native font rendering? Is it in b94? Also, will this result in an improvement in rendering quality? On 21/06/2013, at 14:35, Richard Bair richard.b...@oracle.com wrote: Up until now we've been using T2K to do font measurement / rasterizing. It is what is used

RE: JavaFX graphics performance and suitability for advanced animations

2013-05-31 Thread John C. Turnbull
...@oracle.com] Sent: Friday, 31 May 2013 01:12 To: John C. Turnbull Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Subject: Re: JavaFX graphics performance and suitability for advanced animations Hi John, Graphics? Yes, to a point. But my post was really about graphics and the issues related to performance