[osol-discuss] Anyone seen their OpenSolaris T-Shirts?

2005-08-23 Thread Peter Eriksson
I'm still waiting... :-( This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Express 8/2005 Released

2005-08-23 Thread ken mays
--- Dan Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks. Today marks the release of Solaris Express 8/2005. As usual, you can fetch it via http://www.sun.com/solaris-express. Below is my newsletter about the release. Thanks to Alan C., Darren, Mark Nelson,

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: GPL CDDL - incompatibitile., what does this mean? (round 3)

2005-08-23 Thread Joerg Schilling
Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be too much to kindly ask the FSF to consider amending the GPL (in light of the forthcoming GPL V3) to allow compatibility with other open source licenses which may not be GPL derivatives, but are otherwise considered

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Express 8/2005 Released

2005-08-23 Thread ken mays
--- Dan Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks. Today marks the release of Solaris Express 8/2005. As usual, you can fetch it via http://www.sun.com/solaris-express. Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - blogs.sun.com/dp

[osol-discuss] Re: Anyone seen their OpenSolaris T-Shirts?

2005-08-23 Thread Mark Vaughan
a few people seem to have got theirs, but I haven't got mine either if that makes you feel any better! :) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] openboot/openfirmware screenshots

2005-08-23 Thread Ihsan Dogan
Hello, On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 23:43, Matt Sealey wrote: A silly question, does anyone have any photographs of an old SPARC or m68k workstation booting with it's cool, black-on-white firmware prompt? I've got an old 3/60 (yes, it has a 68020 CPU) with the original b/w monitor and I can take

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone seen their OpenSolaris T-Shirts?

2005-08-23 Thread Shawn Walker
On 8/23/05, Peter Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still waiting... :-( So am I, you're not alone :) -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: GPL CDDL - incompatibitile., what does this mean? (round 3)

2005-08-23 Thread Richard M. Stallman
But getting back to the main point: I don't think we're ever going to agree on SW licensing philosophy, but I don't think there's any way that OpenSolaris can be icensed under the GPL. The need and/or desire to link with 3rd party code that may or may not be open source

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Companion community development

2005-08-23 Thread James Dickens
On 8/17/05, Marilyn Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We plan to push development for the Solaris Companion out into the community, to serve as a test case for community development for other areas of Solaris. The Companion is the supplemental collection of open source software distributed

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Companion community development

2005-08-23 Thread Shawn Walker
On 8/23/05, James Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry this is opensolaris, and not the ON distrobution, sun doesn't have the right to pick the gate keeper of a community without a discussion on the subjec and possibly a vote, this seems very underhanded. I value sun choices for my OS, but

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Tech Lead

2005-08-23 Thread Stephen Hahn
Thanks to all for the warm welcome. I'm still getting caught up on the complete contents of the program's to do list, but am always ready to hear about blocking issues, be they to do with released source, site and tools infrastructure, new systems ideas, or even random

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Companion community development

2005-08-23 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Matt Ingenthron wrote: It occurs to me that the term gatekeeper is really more from Sun's teamware source control legacy and could carry a negative connotation to someone in the community who is not (or only loosely) familiar with the term. I've never worked in a consolidation with a formal

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Companion community development

2005-08-23 Thread Stephen Lau
James Dickens wrote: sorry this is opensolaris, and not the ON distrobution, sun doesn't have the right to pick the gate keeper of a community without a discussion on the subjec and possibly a vote, this seems very underhanded. I value sun choices for my OS, but I have found sun's choices for

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Express 8/2005 Released

2005-08-23 Thread Dan Price
On Tue 23 Aug 2005 at 05:53AM, ken mays wrote: I followed yor link (and off of the main Sun homepage) and pulled down SX 08/05 NVb20 - not NVb19. Was there a last minute change, and whatis the difference between NVb19 and NVb20 for Solaris Express? I think it's possible that either the D/L

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Companion community development

2005-08-23 Thread Matt Ingenthron
Hi James, James Dickens wrote: (snip...) As long as its numbers are being padded by downloads that are on the main solaris 10 download page, it will appear to be alive. I did a quick poll in #solaris and #opensolaris, and got 2 responders that say they actually use the freeware companion

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Companion community development

2005-08-23 Thread James Dickens
On 8/23/05, Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Ingenthron wrote: It occurs to me that the term gatekeeper is really more from Sun's teamware source control legacy and could carry a negative connotation to someone in the community who is not (or only loosely) familiar with the

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Companion community development

2005-08-23 Thread Matt Ingenthron
Hi James, Stephen Lau wrote: James Dickens wrote: sorry this is opensolaris, and not the ON distrobution, sun doesn't have the right to pick the "gate keeper" of a community without a discussion on the subjec and possibly a vote, this seems very underhanded. I value sun choices

Re: [osol-discuss] Obscure umem semantics

2005-08-23 Thread Jonathan Adams
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 12:38:01PM -0700, David McDaniel (damcdani) wrote: Thanks Jonathon. Your description of the lifecycle of a buffer made perfect sense. That kind of info would help if it got into the man page. I'll work on getting the manpage updated. I'm still not sure I understand

[osol-discuss] CAB Meeting Notes

2005-08-23 Thread Ben Rockwood
I haven't seen CAB meeting notes since the 6/15/05 meeting. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/cab_meeting_notes/2005/cab_meeting_notes_20050615/ Whats the current arrangement for CAB meetings? benr. PS: The Discussions link on the CAB page

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Companion community development

2005-08-23 Thread John Plocher
James Dickens wrote: this isn't about grunt work, its about who controls the gate, and sun endorsing this person and his project above the rest of the others. This sounds more like a glossary cache miss than evidence of a conspiracy. The role of a gatekeeper is very different in the FOSS and

Re: [osol-discuss] CAB Meeting Notes

2005-08-23 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Ben Rockwood wrote: I haven't seen CAB meeting notes since the 6/15/05 meeting. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/cab_meeting_notes/2005/cab_meeting_notes_20050615/ Whats the current arrangement for CAB meetings? benr. The CAB has conference call meetings only to resolve issues

Re: [osol-discuss] CAB Meeting Notes

2005-08-23 Thread Rich Teer
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Ben Rockwood wrote: I haven't seen CAB meeting notes since the 6/15/05 meeting. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/cab_meeting_notes/2005/cab_meeting_notes_20050615/ Hmm. We should rectify that, even if it is to post the notes from our meetings at OSCON. Whats

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Companion community development

2005-08-23 Thread Eric Boutilier
Because there are countless people outside Sun with expertise in building and maintaining open-source software, enabling a way for non-Sun people to contribute to the Companion CD probably should have happened _a long_ time ago. Nevertheless, I think the Companion CD concept still has merit. There

Re: [osol-discuss] CAB Meeting Notes

2005-08-23 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Rich Teer wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Ben Rockwood wrote: I haven't seen CAB meeting notes since the 6/15/05 meeting. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/cab_meeting_notes/2005/cab_meeting_notes_20050615/ Hmm. We should rectify that, even if it is to post the notes from our

Re: [osol-discuss] CAB Meeting Notes

2005-08-23 Thread Ben Rockwood
Jim Grisanzio wrote: Rich Teer wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Ben Rockwood wrote: I haven't seen CAB meeting notes since the 6/15/05 meeting. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/cab_meeting_notes/2005/cab_meeting_notes_20050615/ Hmm. We should rectify that, even if it is to

Re: [osol-discuss] CAB Meeting Notes

2005-08-23 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Ben Rockwood wrote: Jim Grisanzio wrote: Rich Teer wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Ben Rockwood wrote: I haven't seen CAB meeting notes since the 6/15/05 meeting. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/cab_meeting_notes/2005/cab_meeting_notes_20050615/ Hmm. We should rectify

Re: [osol-discuss] CAB Meeting Notes

2005-08-23 Thread Derek Cicero
PS: The Discussions link on the CAB page (http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/) points to the tools discussion, not cab-discuss. This is fixed. Thanks for the heads up. Derek ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

[osol-discuss] Re: Anyone seen their OpenSolaris T-Shirts?

2005-08-23 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
How were those to US destinations shipped (USPS, UPS, whatever)? Knowing that might help some of us know what to watch for. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Companion community development

2005-08-23 Thread Hugh McIntyre
| Nevertheless, I think the Companion CD concept still has merit. There | are lots of customers who have a strong desire for any unsupported | open-source software they might use to come from the same vendor that | they purchased their platform/service contract from. I'd word this slightly

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris Companion community development

2005-08-23 Thread Bob Palowoda
James Dickens wrote: this isn't about grunt work, its about who controls the gate, and sun endorsing this person and his project above the rest of the others. This sounds more like a glossary cache miss than evidence of a conspiracy. The role of a gatekeeper is very different in the

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Companion community development

2005-08-23 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Hugh McIntyre wrote: | Nevertheless, I think the Companion CD concept still has merit. There | are lots of customers who have a strong desire for any unsupported | open-source software they might use to come from the same vendor that | they purchased their