[opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-27 Thread Lance Corrimal
heya Joe, in your initial announcement you said there would be three TPV meetings... is the third one today/cancelled/postponed/forgotten? bye, LC ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSourc

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-10 Thread Dzonatas Sol
I'm not sure what you mean it didn't quite work. Anyways, I appreciate that Joe wants to gather this Brown-Bag, so we can talk specifics in words. Tigro Spottystripes wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > a baby can still crawl over the TV remote and turn it on right when

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-10 Thread Tigro Spottystripes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 a baby can still crawl over the TV remote and turn it on right when a horror movie is playing, that baby analogy didn't quite work On 10/4/2010 14:14, Dzonatas Sol wrote: > Hi Joe, > > In case I don't make the Brown Bag, I just wanted to point out th

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-10 Thread Marine Kelley
Thank you Joe I'd like to chime in and bring my own concerns since I won't make it to the meeting. My primary concern is about the Viewer Directory and here are my questions : - Will registering a TPV to the Viewer Directory become mandatory one day ? If so, how can we be absolutely certain that

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-10 Thread Dzonatas Sol
Hi Joe, In case I don't make the Brown Bag, I just wanted to point out the fact that simply developers, which includes how Linden Lab has invested resources to sustain such world, don't share a view with users that Virtual Reality that Virtual Reality is not just a game. This realization is ac

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-09 Thread Jay Reynolds Freeman
CeeJay Tigerpaw squeaks up: I think there is rather a meta issue here which should be articulated again clearly, before the meeting, that has to do with the interaction between substantial established businesses and the open-source/third-party-developer community. Let me see if I can describe

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-09 Thread Boroondas Gupte
On 04/09/2010 05:29 PM, Joe Miller wrote: > Henri, > > Sorry you can't participate. Joe, Is there a compelling reason why the meeting cannot be hold in text? It looks like that'd accommodate more developers of both, Snowgobe and Third Party Viewers. A lot of us aren't native speakers and are much

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-09 Thread Joe Miller
Morgaine, Thanks for asking.  My interest is to listen to specific concerns voiced by the majority of the community and (more importantly) take proposed solutions to those concerns under advisement before the policy becomes effective on April 30.  It won't be very productive for anyone if it's

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-09 Thread Joe Miller
Henri, Sorry you can't participate. -- Joe Henri Beauchamp wrote: On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:24:57 -0700, Joe Linden wrote: It'll be an informal Q&A session, What's the point if problems are not actually *addessed* and if it's just about trying to reassure people without

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-09 Thread JB Hancroft
Joe, Thanks for doing this. There are obviously a LOT of concerns. I'm not sure if Linden Lab is willing to do so, but sharing any additional insights about why certain parts of the TPVP were drafted the way they are, might help. My ask, of the community: This has the potential to be a meeting w

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-09 Thread Tigro Spottystripes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 in theory it should be possible to record what is said in voice, though coordinating voice with text for context would be a bit more complicated (though a video of the meeting with a good resolution and as lossless as possible codec/compression could d

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-09 Thread Opensource Obscure
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:43:42 +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: > That is probably exactly the reason why they want it to be in voice: > so that there is no transcript and nobody can use whatever is going > to be said in court at a later time. I want to make clear that I refuse this interpretation. This

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-09 Thread Carlo Wood
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 07:28:14AM -0400, Robert Martin wrote: > >> Voice is a no-no for me. Being French, I can't speak and understand > >> spoken English (and worst, American English...) well and fast enough > >> to hold a conversation in voice. > > > also unless im not mistaken holding it in Voi

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-09 Thread Robert Martin
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 08:37:00 +0200, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > >> Voice is a no-no for me. Being French, I can't speak and understand >> spoken English (and worst, American English...) well and fast enough >> to hold a conversation in voice. > also unless im not mistaken holding it in Voice also gu

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-09 Thread Opensource Obscure
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 08:37:00 +0200, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > Voice is a no-no for me. Being French, I can't speak and understand > spoken English (and worst, American English...) well and fast enough > to hold a conversation in voice. +1 (being Italian) I'm willing to participate and contribute

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-09 Thread Morgaine
Joe, nowhere do you say that you are going to feed the community response back to the people who drafted the TPV, in order to seek change. Was that implied? Nor do you say that you are going to champion the TPV community's needs with the appropriate Lindens after your 3 meetings. Was that implie

Re: [opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-08 Thread Henri Beauchamp
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:24:57 -0700, Joe Linden wrote: > It'll be an informal Q&A session, What's the point if problems are not actually *addessed* and if it's just about trying to reassure people without any written warrantee given on LL's side ? > held in voice, at this location: Voice is a no-

[opensource-dev] Brown-bag meeting to continue dialog on TVPV next Tuesday (4/13)

2010-04-08 Thread Joe Linden
Hello, all. I've been reading the ongoing commentary here, on various blogs, irc, and in-world groups about the recently introduced Third Party Viewer Policy and Directory and I'd like to host an "office hour" or informal brown bag to make the conversation a little more synchronous for those who a