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Hi keshava,
Thanks for interested in Cascading. Here are some very simple explanation:
Basically Datacenter is not in the 2-level tree of cascading. We use
( joehuang )
From: A, Keshava [keshav...@hp.com]
Sent: 30 October 2014 17:45
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Hi,
Can the VM migration
Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang )
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Hi,
Can the VM migration happens across POD (Zone) ?
If so then how reachability of VM is addressed
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack
cascading
Hello, Keshava
Live migration is allowed inside one pod ( one cascaded OpenStack instance ),
not support cross pods live migration yet.
But cold migration could be done between pods, even cross data centers
This is very interesting problem to solve.
I am curious to know how the reachability is provided across different
Datacenter.
How to know which VM is part of which Datacenter?
VM may be in different Zone but under same DC or in different DC itself.
How this problem is solved?
thanks regards,
: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by
OpenStack cascading
This is very interesting problem to solve.
I am curious to know how the reachability is provided across different
Datacenter.
How to know which VM is part of which Datacenter?
VM may be in different Zone but under same DC
Chaoyi Hunag ( joehuang )
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Sent: 30 October 2014 10:25
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Hi keshava
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cascading
Hi,
Good questions: why not just keeping multiple endpoints, and leaving
orchestration effort in the client side?
From feedback of some large data center
: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack
cascading
Hi Phil,
Thanks for your feedback, and patience of this long history reading :) See
comments inline.
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote:
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From: henry hly
From: Day, Phil [philip@hp.com]
Sent: 23 October 2014 19:24
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Hi,
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From: joehuang [mailto:joehu
On 10/09/2014 03:36 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote:
On 9 October 2014 07:49, henry hly henry4...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Joshua,
...in fact hierarchical scale
depends on square of single child scale. If a single child can deal
with 00's to 000's, cascading on it would then deal with 00,000's.
That is
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Hi,
Good questions: why not just
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From: Joshua Harlow [harlo...@outlook.com]
Sent: 07 October 2014 12:21
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On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com
On 8 October 2014 10:32, joehuang joehu...@huawei.com wrote:
maybe we should just slap a REST api on it. The challenge of Node-pool REST
API is What it will look like for these API, totally new API? current OS-API
?. From cloud operators' feed back, OS-API is preferred. If we developed
On 9 October 2014 07:49, henry hly henry4...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Joshua,
...in fact hierarchical scale
depends on square of single child scale. If a single child can deal
with 00's to 000's, cascading on it would then deal with 00,000's.
That is faulty logic - maybe the cascading solution
Thomas [mailto:duncan.tho...@gmail.com]
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On 9 October 2014 07:49, henry hly henry4...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by
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On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote:
On 09/30/2014 12:07 PM, Tim Bell wrote:
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On 7 October 2014 16:30, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote:
Second BTW - you're certainly right about the first two in the global
list - we keep track of quota
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by
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cascading
On 30 September 2014 14:04, joehuang joehu...@huawei.com wrote:
Hello, Dear TC and all,
Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances(as
different zones
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by
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cascading
On 30 September 2014 14:04, joehuang joehu...@huawei.com wrote:
Hello, Dear TC and all,
Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances(as
different zones), rather than a single
: 07 October 2014 12:21
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On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote:
On 09/30/2014 12:07 PM, Tim Bell wrote
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From: Joshua Harlow [harlo...@outlook.com]
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On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Monty Taylor mord
On 7 October 2014 16:30, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote:
Second BTW - you're certainly right about the first two in the global
list - we keep track of quota and usage ourselves inside of nodepool.
Actually - since nodepool already does a bunch of these things - maybe
we should just
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cascading
On 30 September 2014 14:04, joehuang joehu...@huawei.com wrote:
Hello, Dear TC and all,
Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances(as
different zones), rather than a single monolithic
] Multi-clouds integration by
OpenStack
cascading
On 30 September 2014 14:04, joehuang joehu...@huawei.com wrote:
Hello, Dear TC and all,
Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances(as
different zones), rather than a single monolithic OpenStack instance
because
On 09/30/2014 12:07 PM, Tim Bell wrote:
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Sent: 30 September 2014 15:35
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So I have substantial concerns about hierarchy based designs and data
mass - the interconnect between leaves in the hierarchy are often
going to be fairly thin, particularly if they are geographically
distributed, so the semantics of what is allowed to access what data
resource (glance, swift,
in the OpenStack cascading?
Best Regards
Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang )
From: Duncan Thomas [duncan.tho...@gmail.com]
Sent: 02 October 2014 18:59
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On 2 October 2014 14:30, joehuang joehu...@huawei.com wrote:
In our PoC design principle, the cascaded OpenStack should work passively,
and has no kowledge whether it is running under cascading senario or not to
and whether there is sibling OpenStack or not, to reduce interconnect
between
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Hi, Tiwari,
Great to know you are also trying to address similar issues. For sure we are
happy to work out a common solution
and date-time.
Best Regards
Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang )
From: Duncan Thomas [duncan.tho...@gmail.com]
Sent: 02 October 2014 22:33
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From: Tiwari, Arvind [arvind.tiw...@hp.com]
Sent: 02 October 2014 23:13
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Hi Huang,
Thanks for looking in to my proposal
Hi Joe,
On 01/10/14 09:10, joehuang wrote:
OpenStack cascading: to integrate multi-site / multi-vendor OpenStack
instances into one cloud with OpenStack API exposed.
Cells: a single OpenStack instance scale up methodology
Just to let you know - there are actually some users out there that
Hi Joe and Cellers,
I've tried to understand relationship between Cell and Cascading. If
Cell has been designed as below, would it be the same as Cascading?
1) Besides Nova, Neutron/Ceilometer.. is also hierarchically
structured for scalability.
2) Child-parent interaction is based on REST
Regards
Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang )
From: Tom Fifield [t...@openstack.org]
Sent: 01 October 2014 15:19
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack
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Hi Joe,
On 01/10/14 09:10
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Hi Joe and Cellers,
I've tried to understand relationship between Cell and Cascading. If
Cell has been designed as below, would it be the same as Cascading?
1) Besides Nova, Neutron
Huang ( joehuang )
From: Alex Glikson [glik...@il.ibm.com]
Sent: 01 October 2014 12:51
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This sounds related
:[openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by
OpenStack cascading
Hello, Dear TC and all,
Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances(as
different zones), rather than a single monolithic OpenStack instance because
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Sent: 02 October 2014 0:42
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Hi Chaoyi,
Thanks for sharing these information.
Sometime back I have stared a project called “Alliance
Hello, Dear TC and all,
Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances(as
different zones), rather than a single monolithic OpenStack instance because of
these reasons:
1) Multiple data centers distributed geographically;
2) Multi-vendor business policy;
3) Server nodes
On 30 September 2014 14:04, joehuang joehu...@huawei.com wrote:
Hello, Dear TC and all,
Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances(as
different zones), rather than a single monolithic OpenStack instance because
of these reasons:
1) Multiple data centers
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:04 AM, joehuang joehu...@huawei.com wrote:
Hello, Dear TC and all,
Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances(as
different zones), rather than a single monolithic OpenStack instance
because of these reasons:
1) Multiple data centers
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From: John Garbutt [mailto:j...@johngarbutt.com]
Sent: 30 September 2014 15:35
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On 30 September 2014 14:04
So this does seem a-lot like cells but makes cells appear in the other projects.
IMHO the same problems that occur in cells appear here in that we are
sacrificing consistency of the already problematic systems that already exist
to gain scale (and to gain more inconsistency). Every time I see a
On 09/30/2014 12:10 PM, John Griffith wrote:
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:35 AM, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com
mailto:j...@johngarbutt.com wrote:
On 30 September 2014 14:04, joehuang joehu...@huawei.com
mailto:joehu...@huawei.com wrote:
Hello, Dear TC and all,
Large
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From: John Garbutt [j...@johngarbutt.com]
Sent: 30 September 2014 21:35
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On 30 September 2014 14:04
for the integration of software /
hardware .
Best Regards
Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang)
From: John Griffith [john.griff...@solidfire.com]
Sent: 01 October 2014 0:10
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session.
Best Regards
Chaoyi Hunag ( joehuang )
From: Joe Gordon [joe.gord...@gmail.com]
Sent: 01 October 2014 2:06
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From: Joshua Harlow [harlo...@outlook.com]
Sent: 01 October 2014 3:17
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So this does seem a-lot like cells but makes cells appear
point of view.
Best Regards
Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang )
From: Andrew Laski [andrew.la...@rackspace.com]
Sent: 01 October 2014 3:49
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack
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( joehuang )
From: Adam Young [ayo...@redhat.com]
Sent: 01 October 2014 4:25
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
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On 09/30/2014 12:10 PM, John Griffith wrote:
On Tue, Sep
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Hello, Dear TC and all,
Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances
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