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ions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading Hello, Keshava Live migration is allowed inside one pod ( one cascaded OpenStack instance ), not support cross pods live migration yet. But cold migration could be done between pods, even cross data cen

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Regards >> >> Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang ) >> >> >> From: A, Keshava [keshav...@hp.com] >> Sent: 30 October 2014 17:45 >> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Subject: Re: [o

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uture. > > Best Regards > > Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang ) > > > From: A, Keshava [keshav...@hp.com] > Sent: 30 October 2014 17:45 > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

( joehuang ) From: A, Keshava [keshav...@hp.com] Sent: 30 October 2014 17:45 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading Hi, Can the VM migration

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tack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading Hi keshava, Thanks for interested in Cascading. Here are some very simple explanation: Basically Datacenter is not in the 2-level tree of cascading. We

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st Regards Chaoyi Hunag ( joehuang ) From: Wuhongning [wuhongn...@huawei.com] Sent: 30 October 2014 10:25 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

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org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading This is very interesting problem to solve. I am curious to know how the reachability is provided across different Datacenter. How to know which VM is part of which Datacenter? VM may be in different Zone but u

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This is very interesting problem to solve. I am curious to know how the reachability is provided across different Datacenter. How to know which VM is part of which Datacenter? VM may be in different Zone but under same DC or in different DC itself. How this problem is solved? thanks & regards,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

On 10/09/2014 03:36 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: On 9 October 2014 07:49, henry hly wrote: Hi Joshua, ...in fact hierarchical scale depends on square of single child scale. If a single child can deal with 00's to 000's, cascading on it would then deal with 00,000's. That is faulty logic - maybe t

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linkedin.com/today/author/23841540 Best Regards Chaoyi Huang From: Day, Phil [philip@hp.com] Sent: 23 October 2014 19:24 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack

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Hi, > -Original Message- > From: joehuang [mailto:joehu...@huawei.com] > Sent: 23 October 2014 09:59 > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack > cascading > &g

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: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading Hi Phil, Thanks for your feedback, and patience of this long history reading :) See comments inline. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Day,

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o: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack >> cascading >> >> Hi, >> >> Good questions: why not just keeping multiple endpoints, and leaving >> orchestration

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> -Original Message- > From: henry hly [mailto:henry4...@gmail.com] > Sent: 08 October 2014 09:16 > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack > cascading > > Hi,

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inal Message- From: Duncan Thomas [mailto:duncan.tho...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 3:37 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading On 9 October 2014 07:49, henry hly

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On 9 October 2014 07:49, henry hly wrote: > Hi Joshua, > > ...in fact hierarchical scale > depends on square of single child scale. If a single child can deal > with 00's to 000's, cascading on it would then deal with 00,000's. That is faulty logic - maybe the cascading solution needs to deal wit

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On 8 October 2014 10:32, joehuang wrote: > "maybe we should just slap a REST api on it". The challenge of Node-pool REST > API is "What it will look like for these API, totally new API? current OS-API > ?". From cloud operators' feed back, OS-API is preferred. If we developed > totally new API

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elopment Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by >> OpenStack cascading >> >> On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: >> >>> On 09/30/2014 12:07 PM, Tim Bell wrote: >>>>>

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wrote: > >> On 09/30/2014 12:07 PM, Tim Bell wrote: >>>> -----Original Message- >>>> From: John Garbutt [mailto:j...@johngarbutt.com] >>>> Sent: 30 September 2014 15:35 >>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

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homas [mailto:duncan.tho...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 9:42 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading My data consistency concerts would be around: 1) Defining global state. You c

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14 11:44 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading On 7 October 2014 16:30, Monty Taylor wrote: > Second BTW - you're certainly right about the first two in the global > lis

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cascading OpenStack, >>> and the physical objects are stored in the cascaded OpenStack, uuid mapping >>> between logical object and physical object had been built, it's possible >>> and easy to solve the inconsistency issues. Even for flavor, host >>> aggreg

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On 7 October 2014 16:30, Monty Taylor wrote: > Second BTW - you're certainly right about the first two in the global > list - we keep track of quota and usage ourselves inside of nodepool. > Actually - since nodepool already does a bunch of these things - maybe > we should just slap a REST api on

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[all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by >> OpenStack cascading >> >> On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: >> >>> On 09/30/2014 12:07 PM, Tim Bell wrote: >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: John Garbutt [mailto:

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ency issue. > > Best Regards > > Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang ) > > From: Joshua Harlow [harlo...@outlook.com] > Sent: 07 October 2014 12:21 > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all]

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;> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by >>> OpenStack >>> cascading >>> >>> On 30 September 2014 14:04, joehuang wrote: >>>> Hello, Dear TC and al

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ot for usage questions) >>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by >>> OpenStack >>> cascading >>> >>> On 30 September 2014 14:04, joehuang wrote: >>>> Hello, Dear TC and all, >>>> >>>> Larg

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AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > On 09/30/2014 12:07 PM, Tim Bell wrote: > >> -Original Message- > >> From: John Garbutt [mailto:j...@johngarbutt.com] > >> Sent: 30 September 2014 15:35 > >> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions

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On 09/30/2014 12:07 PM, Tim Bell wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: John Garbutt [mailto:j...@johngarbutt.com] >> Sent: 30 September 2014 15:35 >> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [t

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( joehuang ) From: Tiwari, Arvind [arvind.tiw...@hp.com] Sent: 02 October 2014 23:13 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading Hi Huang, Thanks for looking in to m

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ad for the venue and date-time. Best Regards Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang ) From: Duncan Thomas [duncan.tho...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 October 2014 22:33 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-c

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, 2014 5:01 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading Hi, Tiwari, Great to know you are also trying to address similar issues. For sure we are happy to work out a common soluti

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On 2 October 2014 14:30, joehuang wrote: > In our PoC design principle, the cascaded OpenStack should work passively, > and has no kowledge "whether it is running under cascading senario or not to" > and "whether there is sibling OpenStack or not", to reduce interconnect > between cascaded Ope

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op for deep diving in the OpenStack cascading? Best Regards Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang ) From: Duncan Thomas [duncan.tho...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 October 2014 18:59 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev

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So I have substantial concerns about hierarchy based designs and data mass - the interconnect between leaves in the hierarchy are often going to be fairly thin, particularly if they are geographically distributed, so the semantics of what is allowed to access what data resource (glance, swift, cind

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ind [arvind.tiw...@hp.com] Sent: 02 October 2014 0:42 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading Hi Chaoyi, Thanks for sharing these information. Sometime back I have stared a project c

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[openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading Hello, Alex, Thank you very much for your mail about remote cluster hypervisor. One of the inspiration for OpenStack cascading is from the remote clustered hypervisor like vCenter. The difference between the remote cluste

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Huang ( joehuang ) From: Alex Glikson [glik...@il.ibm.com] Sent: 01 October 2014 12:51 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading This sounds related to

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fe [loywo...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 October 2014 16:13 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading Hi Joe and Cellers, I've tried to understand relationship between Cell and Cascading. If

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ll scale up methodology. Best Regards Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang ) From: Tom Fifield [t...@openstack.org] Sent: 01 October 2014 15:19 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascadi

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Hi Joe and Cellers, I've tried to understand relationship between Cell and Cascading. If Cell has been designed as below, would it be the same as Cascading? 1) Besides Nova, Neutron/Ceilometer.. is also hierarchically structured for scalability. 2) Child-parent interaction is based on REST OS-AP

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Hi Joe, On 01/10/14 09:10, joehuang wrote: > OpenStack cascading: to integrate multi-site / multi-vendor OpenStack > instances into one cloud with OpenStack API exposed. > Cells: a single OpenStack instance scale up methodology Just to let you know - there are actually some users out there that

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nt Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Date: 30/09/2014 04:08 PM Subject: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading Hello, Dear TC and all, Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances(as different zones), rather than

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( joehuang ) From: Adam Young [ayo...@redhat.com] Sent: 01 October 2014 4:25 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading On 09/30/2014 12:10 PM, John Griffith wrote: On Tue, Sep

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louds integration by OpenStack cascading On 09/30/2014 03:07 PM, Tim Bell wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: John Garbutt [mailto:j...@johngarbutt.com] >> Sent: 30 September 2014 15:35 >> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Subject

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gards Chaoyi Hunag ( joehuang ) From: Joshua Harlow [harlo...@outlook.com] Sent: 01 October 2014 3:17 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading So this does seem a-lot lik

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session. Best Regards Chaoyi Hunag ( joehuang ) From: Joe Gordon [joe.gord...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 October 2014 2:06 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack

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en for the integration of software / hardware . Best Regards Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang) From: John Griffith [john.griff...@solidfire.com] Sent: 01 October 2014 0:10 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all]

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) From: John Garbutt [j...@johngarbutt.com] Sent: 30 September 2014 21:35 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading On 30 September 2014 14:04

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On 09/30/2014 12:10 PM, John Griffith wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:35 AM, John Garbutt > wrote: On 30 September 2014 14:04, joehuang mailto:joehu...@huawei.com>> wrote: > Hello, Dear TC and all, > > Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multip

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

On 09/30/2014 03:07 PM, Tim Bell wrote: -Original Message- From: John Garbutt [mailto:j...@johngarbutt.com] Sent: 30 September 2014 15:35 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack

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So this does seem a-lot like cells but makes cells appear in the other projects. IMHO the same problems that occur in cells appear here in that we are sacrificing consistency of the already problematic systems that already exist to gain scale (and to gain more inconsistency). Every time I see a

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

> -Original Message- > From: John Garbutt [mailto:j...@johngarbutt.com] > Sent: 30 September 2014 15:35 > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack > cascading > &

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On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:04 AM, joehuang wrote: > Hello, Dear TC and all, > > Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances(as > different zones), rather than a single monolithic OpenStack instance > because of these reasons: > > 1) Multiple data centers distributed geograp

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:35 AM, John Garbutt wrote: > On 30 September 2014 14:04, joehuang wrote: > > Hello, Dear TC and all, > > > > Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances(as > different zones), rather than a single monolithic OpenStack instance > because of these

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

On 30 September 2014 14:04, joehuang wrote: > Hello, Dear TC and all, > > Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances(as > different zones), rather than a single monolithic OpenStack instance because > of these reasons: > > 1) Multiple data centers distributed geographica

[openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

Hello, Dear TC and all, Large cloud operators prefer to deploy multiple OpenStack instances(as different zones), rather than a single monolithic OpenStack instance because of these reasons: 1) Multiple data centers distributed geographically; 2) Multi-vendor business policy; 3) Server nodes s