Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] [all] Proposal for new Glance core reviewers

2014-11-26 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 25/11/14 20:16 +, Nikhil Komawar wrote: Hi all, Please consider this email as a nomination for Erno and Alex (CC) for adding them to the list of Glance core reviewers. Over the last cycle, both of them have been doing good work with reviews, participating in the project discussions as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Fuel Plugins, First look; Whats Next?

2014-11-26 Thread Andrew Woodward
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Evgeniy L e...@mirantis.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Andrew Woodward xar...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Evgeniy L e...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi Andrew, Comments inline. Also could you please provide a link on

Re: [openstack-dev] [pecan] [WSME] Different content-type in request and response

2014-11-26 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi, I traced the WSME code and found a place [0] where it tries to get arguments from request body based on different mimetype. So looks like WSME supports only json, xml and “application/x-www-form-urlencoded”. So my question is: Can we fix WSME to also support “text/plain” mimetype? I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon]

2014-11-26 Thread Tatiana Ovtchinnikova
+1 and +1 Cindy and Thai, thank you and welcome! 2014-11-25 2:09 GMT+03:00 David Lyle dkly...@gmail.com: I am pleased to nominate Thai Tran and Cindy Lu to horizon-core. Both Thai and Cindy have been contributing significant numbers of high quality reviews during Juno and Kilo cycles. They

[openstack-dev] Issues regarding Jenkins on Gerrit reviews

2014-11-26 Thread Abhishek Talwar/HYD/TCS
Hi All, I am facing some issues with Jenkins on two of my reviews. Jenkins is failing either on gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-python-neutronclient-icehouse or gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-python-neutronclient-icehouse but i do not see any of my code changes making them fail. So if you can

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-11-26 Thread Julien Danjou
On Fri, Oct 31 2014, Flavio Percoco wrote: Fully agree! The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced we should keep py26 in oslo until EOL Juno. It'll take time, it may be painful but it'll be simpler to explain and more importantly it'll be simpler to do. Keeping this simple will

Re: [openstack-dev] [FUEL] Zabbix in HA mode

2014-11-26 Thread Mike Scherbakov
For small installs we still have to consider an option of roles combination, and placing Zabbix on controllers. Fuel disk allocation logic should be smart and has to allocate separate disk for it where possible. On Wednesday, November 26, 2014, Stanislaw Bogatkin sbogat...@mirantis.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-26 Thread Stanislaw Bogatkin
Hi all, As I understand, we just need to monitoring one node - Fuel master. For slave nodes we already have a solution - zabbix. So, in that case why we need some complicated stuff like monasca? Let's use something small, like monit or sensu. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Fox, Kevin M

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Proposal to add examples/usecase as part of new features / cli / functionality patches

2014-11-26 Thread Valeriy Ponomaryov
Hi Deepak, Docs are present in any project already, according to example with manila - https://github.com/openstack/manila/tree/master/doc/source It is used for docs on http://docs.openstack.org/ , also everyone if able to contribute to it. See docs built on basis of files from manila repo:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova host-update gives error 'Virt driver does not implement host disabled status'

2014-11-26 Thread Vineet Menon
Hi Kevin, Oh. Yes. That could be the problem. Thanks for pointing that out. Regards, Vineet Menon On 26 November 2014 at 02:02, Chen CH Ji jiche...@cn.ibm.com wrote: are you using libvirt ? it's not implemented ,guess your bug are talking about other hypervisors? the message was printed

[openstack-dev] [nova] [cinder] Timeout problems

2014-11-26 Thread Tobias Engelbert
Hi, When testing high load scenarios, e.g. issuing 100 volume attachments, we are running into timeout problems between nova, cinder and the centralized storage backend. Has anybody experienced similar problems? /Tobi https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/volume-status-polling

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Order of machines to be terminated during scale down

2014-11-26 Thread Maish Saidel-Keesing
In which order are machines terminated during a scale down action in an auto scaling group For example instance 1 2 were deployed in a stack. Instances 3 4 were created as a result of load. When the load is reduced and the instances are scaled back down, which ones will be removed? And in

[openstack-dev] [heat] [CustomResource] LifeCycle methods flow

2014-11-26 Thread Pradip Mukhopadhyay
Hello, Any pointer (document and/or code pointer) related to how the different overridden methods are getting called when a custom resource is getting deployed in the heat stack? Basically just tried to annotate the h-eng log on a simple, very-first-attempt 'hello world' resource. Noticed the

Re: [openstack-dev] [FUEL] Zabbix in HA mode

2014-11-26 Thread Dmitriy Shulyak
Im working on Zabbix implementation which include HA support. Zabbix server should be deployed on all controllers in HA mode. But zabbix-server will stay and user will be able to assign this role where he wants? If so there will be no limitations on roles allocation strategy that user can use

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Order of machines to be terminated during scale down

2014-11-26 Thread Pavlo Shchelokovskyy
Maish, by default they are deleted in in the same order they were created, FIFO style. Best regards, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy. On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Maish Saidel-Keesing maishsk+openst...@maishsk.com wrote: In which order are machines terminated during a scale down action in an auto

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Change diagnostic snapshot compression algoritm

2014-11-26 Thread Mike Scherbakov
Can we put it as a work item for diagnostic snapshot improvements, so we won't forget about this in 6.1? On Tuesday, November 25, 2014, Dmitry Pyzhov dpyz...@mirantis.com wrote: Thank you all for your feedback. Request postponed to the next release. We will compare available solutions. On

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Let's use additional prefixes in threads

2014-11-26 Thread Mike Scherbakov
Vladimir, +1 on using additional prefixes. Please do not use Orchestrator though, especially with /Astute. Astute is not an orchestrator since we moved all orchestration logic to Nailgun, and it happened a long time ago already. Let's call it as task executor instead, or Nailgun's workers. So,

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [CustomResource] LifeCycle methods flow

2014-11-26 Thread Pavlo Shchelokovskyy
Pradip, https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resource.py#L473 Basically, it calls handle_create that might return some data, yields, and than keeps calling check_create_complete with that data returned by handle_create, yielding control in-between, until

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Proposal to add examples/usecase as part of new features / cli / functionality patches

2014-11-26 Thread Deepak Shetty
Hi Valeriy, I know about docs, but this was a proposal to provide small doc which are patch specific as that helps reviewers and other doc writers I have many a times seen people asking on IRC or list on how to test this patch, or i did this with your patch but didn't work , such iterations

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-26 Thread Przemyslaw Kaminski
I agree, this was supposed to be small. P. On 11/26/2014 11:03 AM, Stanislaw Bogatkin wrote: Hi all, As I understand, we just need to monitoring one node - Fuel master. For slave nodes we already have a solution - zabbix. So, in that case why we need some complicated stuff like monasca?

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-11-26 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On 11/26/2014 10:46 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Fri, Oct 31 2014, Flavio Percoco wrote: Fully agree! The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced we should keep py26 in oslo until EOL Juno. It'll take time, it may be painful but it'll be simpler to explain and more importantly it'll

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Finding old reviews for action

2014-11-26 Thread James Polley
At the mid-cycle, there was some discussion around using our weekly meeting time to find 5 old reviews and assign people to shepherd those reviews - either marking them as abandoned if there hasn't been any action, or rounding up reviewers or people to help make changes if required to drive it

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] [CI] Cinder/Ceph CI setup

2014-11-26 Thread Giulio Fidente
hi there, while working on the TripleO cinder-ha spec meant to provide HA for Cinder via Ceph [1], we wondered how to (if at all) test this in CI, so we're looking for some feedback first of all, shall we make Cinder/Ceph the default for our (currently non-voting) HA job?

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-26 Thread Nicolas Trangez
On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 13:19 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: I think pointing out that the default failure message for testtools.TestCase.assertEqual() uses the terms reference (expected) and actual is a reason why reviewers *should* ask patch submitters to use (expected, actual) ordering. Is

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] [CustomResource] LifeCycle methods flow

2014-11-26 Thread Pradip Mukhopadhyay
Thanks Pavlo. One particular thing I did not comprehend is: Suppose my resource code is something like: class HelloWorld(resource.Resource): def __init__(self, controller, deserializer, serializer=None): LOG.info([pradipm]:Inside HelloWorld ctor);

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Separate code freeze for repos

2014-11-26 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
Mike, from DevOps point of view it doesn't really matter when we do branching. This is the process we need to perform anyway and this partial branching doesn't change too much for us. Although there might be several technical questions like: 1) When we create /6.1 mirror? 2) Should we create

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Nailgun API log verbosity

2014-11-26 Thread Ivan Kliuk
Hi, all! Recently I started working on nailgun-api log is too verbose https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1393148 bug and collected your feedbacks about PoC https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137053/ as follows: 1) We cannot always delete or cut messages received from nailgun-agent because of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugins improvement

2014-11-26 Thread Dmitry Ukov
Evgeniy, Thanks a lot! On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Evgeniy L e...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi Dmitry, Our current validation implementation is based on jsonschema, we will figure out how to hack/configure it to provide more human readable message Thanks, On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:34 PM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Order of machines to be terminated during scale down

2014-11-26 Thread Jay Lau
The current behavior is not flexible to customer, I see that we have a blueprint want to enhance this behavior. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/autoscaling-api-resources https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/AutoScaling In Use Case section, we have the following:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Telco] [NFV] [Heat] Telco Orchestration

2014-11-26 Thread Mathieu Rohon
Hi, On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Georgy Okrokvertskhov gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, In Murano we did couple projects related to networking orchestration. As NFV Can you tell us more about those projects? Does it include mutli-datacenter use cases? is a quite broad term I can

[openstack-dev] [devstack] environment variables in local.conf post-config section

2014-11-26 Thread Andreas Scheuring
Hi together, is there a way to use Environment variables in the local.conf post-config section? On my system (stable/juno devstack) not the content of the variable, but the variable name itself is being inserted into the config file. So e.g. [[post-config|$NOVA_CONF]] [DEFAULT]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-26 Thread Fox, Kevin M
So then in the end, there will be 3 monitoring systems to learn, configure, and debug? Monasca for cloud users, zabbix for most of the physical systems, and sensu or monit to be small? Seems very complicated. If not just monasca, why not the zabbix thats already being deployed? Thanks, Kevin

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] Do we need an IntrospectionInterface?

2014-11-26 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
Hi all! As our state machine and discovery discussion proceeds, I'd like to ask your opinion on whether we need an IntrospectionInterface (DiscoveryInterface?). Current proposal [1] suggests adding a method for initiating a discovery to the ManagementInterface. IMO it's not 100% correct, because:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] removing XML testing completely from Tempest

2014-11-26 Thread Sean Dague
On 11/25/2014 03:28 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 24/11/14 08:56 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: Having XML payloads was never a universal part of OpenStack services. During the Icehouse release the TC declared that being an OpenStack service requires having a JSON REST API. Projects could do what

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Separate code freeze for repos

2014-11-26 Thread Mike Scherbakov
I envision it in the following way: 1. stable/6.0 is created for fuel-main along with stable branch for other repo, which is under consideration, like fuel-web 2. In stable/6.0 of fuel-main, config.mk should be changed to refer to stable/6.0 for one of the repos, like fuel-web. master

[openstack-dev] #Personal# Ref: L3 service integration with service framework

2014-11-26 Thread Priyanka Chopra
Hi Gary, All, This is with reference to blueprint - L3 router Service Type Framework and corresponding development at github repo. I noticed that the patch was abandoned due to inactivity. Wanted to know if there is a specific reason for which the development was put on hold? I am working

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Order of machines to be terminated during scale down

2014-11-26 Thread Maish Saidel-Keesing
On 26/11/2014 14:50, Jay Lau wrote: The current behavior is not flexible to customer, I see that we have a blueprint want to enhance this behavior. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/autoscaling-api-resources https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/AutoScaling In Use Case section,

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-11-26 Thread Julien Danjou
On Wed, Nov 26 2014, Andreas Jaeger wrote: The libraries have 2.6 support enabled as discussed - but if indeed some are missing, please send patches, So to recap, it seems to me the plan is to keep all Oslo lib with Python 2.6 so we don't have any transient dependency problem with stable in

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-11-26 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On 11/26/2014 02:48 PM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Wed, Nov 26 2014, Andreas Jaeger wrote: The libraries have 2.6 support enabled as discussed - but if indeed some are missing, please send patches, So to recap, it seems to me the plan is to keep all Oslo lib with Python 2.6 so we don't have

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/26/2014 06:20 AM, Nicolas Trangez wrote: On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 13:19 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: I think pointing out that the default failure message for testtools.TestCase.assertEqual() uses the terms reference (expected) and actual is a reason why reviewers *should* ask patch submitters to

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] environment variables in local.conf post-config section

2014-11-26 Thread jordan pittier
Hi, It should work with your current local.conf. You may be facing this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1386413 Jordan - Original Message - From: Andreas Scheuring scheu...@linux.vnet.ibm.com To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Wednesday, 26

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Order of machines to be terminated during scale down

2014-11-26 Thread Maish Saidel-Keesing
Thanks Pavlo. Is there any reason why FIFO was chosen? Maish On 26/11/2014 12:30, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy wrote: Maish, by default they are deleted in in the same order they were created, FIFO style. Best regards, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy. On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Maish Saidel-Keesing

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-26 Thread Nicolas Trangez
On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 08:54 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: On 11/26/2014 06:20 AM, Nicolas Trangez wrote: On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 13:19 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: I think pointing out that the default failure message for testtools.TestCase.assertEqual() uses the terms reference (expected) and

[openstack-dev] [nova] How should libvirt pools work with distributed storage drivers?

2014-11-26 Thread Peter Penchev
Hi, Some days ago, a bunch of Nova specs were approved for Kilo. Among them was https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-libvirt-storage-pools Now, while I do recognize the wisdom of using storage pools, I do see a couple of possible problems with this, especially in the light of my

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-26 Thread Louis Taylor
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 08:54:35AM -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: It's not about an equality condition. It's about the message that is produced by testtools.TestCase.assertEqual(), and the helpfulness of that message when the order of the arguments is reversed. This is especially true with large

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/26/2014 09:28 AM, Nicolas Trangez wrote: On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 08:54 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: On 11/26/2014 06:20 AM, Nicolas Trangez wrote: On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 13:19 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: I think pointing out that the default failure message for testtools.TestCase.assertEqual() uses

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] environment variables in local.conf post-config section

2014-11-26 Thread Andreas Scheuring
That's it. Thanks! -- Andreas (irc: scheuran) On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 15:10 +0100, jordan pittier wrote: Hi, It should work with your current local.conf. You may be facing this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1386413 Jordan - Original Message - From: Andreas

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Splitting up the assignment component

2014-11-26 Thread David Chadwick
I tend to agree with Morgan. There are resources and there are users. And there is something in the middle that says which users can access which resources. It might be an ACL, a RBAC role, or a set of ABAC attributes, or something else (such as a MAC policy). So to my mind this middle bit, whilst

Re: [openstack-dev] [QA][Tempest] Proposing Ghanshyam Mann for Tempest Core

2014-11-26 Thread Attila Fazekas
+1 - Original Message - From: Marc Koderer m...@koderer.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 7:58:06 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [QA][Tempest] Proposing Ghanshyam Mann for Tempest

Re: [openstack-dev] [QA][Tempest] Proposing Ghanshyam Mann for Tempest Core

2014-11-26 Thread Matthew Treinish
So all of the current core team members have voted unanimously in favor of adding Ghanshyam to the team. Welcome to the team Ghanshyam. -Matt Treinish On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 09:57:10AM -0500, Attila Fazekas wrote: +1 - Original Message - From: Marc Koderer m...@koderer.com To:

[openstack-dev] [Devstack] Juno Backport for Bug Revert Single quote iniset argument in merge_config_file

2014-11-26 Thread Andreas Scheuring
Hi, do you think we could backport this bug to the devstack stable/juno release? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131334/ This bug prohibits people to use the local.conf from icehouse, when they take use of variables for defining configuration values An example. The local.conf looks like

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova host-update gives error 'Virt driver does not implement host disabled status'

2014-11-26 Thread Vladik Romanovsky
- Original Message - From: Vineet Menon mvineetme...@gmail.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Wednesday, 26 November, 2014 5:14:09 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova host-update gives error 'Virt

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Order of machines to be terminated during scale down

2014-11-26 Thread Zane Bitter
On 26/11/14 09:13, Maish Saidel-Keesing wrote: Thanks Pavlo. Is there any reason why FIFO was chosen? I believe that this was the original termination policy on AWS, and that was the reason we chose it. It was used on AWS because if you deleted an instance that was just created you would be

[openstack-dev] [QA] No Meeting this Week

2014-11-26 Thread Matthew Treinish
Hi Everyone, I figured I'd send a quick announcement that we won't be having a meeting this week. The next meeting will be next week, Dec. 4th at 17:00 UTC. Thanks, -Matt Treinish pgpCJ2s1V0P2N.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [pecan] [WSME] Different content-type in request and response

2014-11-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 26, 2014, at 3:49 AM, Renat Akhmerov rakhme...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, I traced the WSME code and found a place [0] where it tries to get arguments from request body based on different mimetype. So looks like WSME supports only json, xml and “application/x-www-form-urlencoded”.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-26 Thread Igor Kalnitsky
Folks, Maybe I understand some things wrong, but Zabbix is a different story. We deploy Zabbix per cluster, so it doesn't monitor for *all* slaves or master node. It monitors only one cluster. Therefore I see no reasons to choose Zabbix over monit. I mean, it shouldn't be We MUST use Zabbix

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-26 Thread Przemyslaw Kaminski
We want to monitor Fuel master node while Zabbix is only on slave nodes and not on master. The monitoring service is supposed to be installed on Fuel master host (not inside a Docker container) and provide basic info about free disk space, etc. P. On 11/26/2014 02:58 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On

[openstack-dev] [nova] is there a way to simulate thousands or millions of compute nodes?

2014-11-26 Thread Gareth
Hi all, Is there a way to simulate thousands or millions of compute nodes? Maybe we could have many fake nova-compute services on one physical machine. By this other nova components would have pressure from thousands of compute services and this could help us find more problem from large-scale

[openstack-dev] [Manila] Meeting cancelled this week

2014-11-26 Thread Ben Swartzlander
I forgot to bring the topic up last week, but this week we have a holiday in the US that conflicts with the weekly meeting, so I have cancelled it. -Ben ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] #Personal# Ref: L3 service integration with service framework

2014-11-26 Thread Mathieu Rohon
Hi, you can still add your own service plugin, as a mixin of L3RouterPlugin (have a look at brocade's code). AFAIU service framework would manage the coexistence several implementation of a single service plugin. This is currently not prioritized by neutron. This kind of work might restart in

[openstack-dev] suds-jurko, new in our global-requirements.txt: what is the point?!?

2014-11-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, I tried to package suds-jurko. I was first happy to see that there was some progress to make things work with Python 3. Unfortunately, the reality is that suds-jurko has many issues with Python 3. For example, it has many: except Exception, e: as well as many: raise Exception, 'Duplicate

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/26/2014 10:22 AM, Przemyslaw Kaminski wrote: We want to monitor Fuel master node while Zabbix is only on slave nodes and not on master. The monitoring service is supposed to be installed on Fuel master host (not inside a Docker container) and provide basic info about free disk space, etc.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-26 Thread Sergii Golovatiuk
Hi, I would do both to compare. monit and Sensu have own advantages. -- Best regards, Sergii Golovatiuk, Skype #golserge IRC #holser On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Przemyslaw Kaminski pkamin...@mirantis.com wrote: We want to monitor Fuel master node while Zabbix is only on slave nodes and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Handling soft delete for instance rows in a new cells database

2014-11-26 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/25/2014 11:54 AM, Solly Ross wrote: I can't comment on other projects, but Nova definitely needs the soft delete in the main nova database. Perhaps not for every table, but there is definitely code in the code base which uses it right now. Search for read_deleted=True if you're curious.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Do we need an IntrospectionInterface?

2014-11-26 Thread Imre Farkas
On 11/26/2014 02:20 PM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: Hi all! As our state machine and discovery discussion proceeds, I'd like to ask your opinion on whether we need an IntrospectionInterface (DiscoveryInterface?). Current proposal [1] suggests adding a method for initiating a discovery to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-26 Thread Stanislaw Bogatkin
As for me - zabbix is overkill for one node. Zabbix Server + Agent + Frontend + DB + HTTP server, and all of it for one node? Why not use something that was developed for monitoring one node, doesn't have many deps and work out of the box? Not necessarily Monit, but something similar. On Wed, Nov

Re: [openstack-dev] suds-jurko, new in our global-requirements.txt: what is the point?!?

2014-11-26 Thread Donald Stufft
On Nov 26, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Hi, I tried to package suds-jurko. I was first happy to see that there was some progress to make things work with Python 3. Unfortunately, the reality is that suds-jurko has many issues with Python 3. For example, it

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-26 Thread Ben Nemec
On 11/26/2014 07:54 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 11/26/2014 06:20 AM, Nicolas Trangez wrote: On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 13:19 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: I think pointing out that the default failure message for testtools.TestCase.assertEqual() uses the terms reference (expected) and actual is a reason

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-26 Thread Sergii Golovatiuk
Jay, Fuel uses watchdog service for container to restart it in case of issues. We have the same problem with containers when disk is full -- Best regards, Sergii Golovatiuk, Skype #golserge IRC #holser On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/26/2014 10:22

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-26 Thread Sergii Golovatiuk
Monit is easy and is used to control states of Compute nodes. We can adopt it for master node. -- Best regards, Sergii Golovatiuk, Skype #golserge IRC #holser On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Stanislaw Bogatkin sbogat...@mirantis.com wrote: As for me - zabbix is overkill for one node. Zabbix

Re: [openstack-dev] [diskimage-builder] Tracing levels for scripts (119023)

2014-11-26 Thread Ben Nemec
On 11/25/2014 10:58 PM, Ian Wienand wrote: Hi, My change [1] to enable a consistent tracing mechanism for the many scripts diskimage-builder runs during its build seems to have hit a stalemate. I hope we can agree that the current situation is not good. When trying to develop with

Re: [openstack-dev] [sahara] Asia friendly IRC meeting time

2014-11-26 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
I think that 6 am for US west works much better than 3 am for Saratov. So, I'm ok with keeping current time and add 1400 UTC. 18:00UTC: Moscow (9pm) China(2am) US West(10am)/US East (1pm) 14:00UTC: Moscow (5pm) China(10pm) US (W 6am / E 9am) I think it's the best option to make all of

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-11-26 Thread Ben Nemec
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/26/2014 07:48 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Wed, Nov 26 2014, Andreas Jaeger wrote: The libraries have 2.6 support enabled as discussed - but if indeed some are missing, please send patches, So to recap, it seems to me the plan is to keep

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-26 Thread Zane Bitter
On 26/11/14 09:33, Louis Taylor wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 08:54:35AM -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: It's not about an equality condition. It's about the message that is produced by testtools.TestCase.assertEqual(), and the helpfulness of that message when the order of the arguments is reversed.

[openstack-dev] [rally] Rally scenario for network scale with VMs

2014-11-26 Thread Ajay Kalambur (akalambu)
Hi Is there a Rally scenario under works where we create N networks and associate N Vms with each network. This would be a decent stress tests of neutron Is there any such scale scenario in works I see scenario for N networks, subnet creation and a separate one for N VM bootups I am looking for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Rally] Question on periodic task

2014-11-26 Thread Ajay Kalambur (akalambu)
Hi Boris Looks like this would require changes in key portions of Rally infra. Need some more time getting a hang of rally by committing a few scenarios before I make infra changes Ajay From: Boris Pavlovic bo...@pavlovic.memailto:bo...@pavlovic.me Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] Issues regarding Jenkins on Gerrit reviews

2014-11-26 Thread Joshua Harlow
Looks like the same bug affecting oslo libraries, clients (likely anyone with that similarily named icehouse job): https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1395368 (likely neutrons real issue), see bug for a potential resolution review that seems to be going through the tubes. ER query

[openstack-dev] [sahara] team meeting Nov 27 1800 UTC

2014-11-26 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi folks, We'll be having the Sahara team meeting as usual in #openstack-meeting-alt channel. Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda#Next_meetings http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Sahara+Meetingiso=20141127T18 -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/26/2014 11:54 AM, Sergii Golovatiuk wrote: Jay, Fuel uses watchdog service for container to restart it in case of issues. We have the same problem with containers when disk is full I see. I guess I don't quite understand why Zabbix isn't just used for everything -- after all, the

Re: [openstack-dev] [sahara] team meeting Nov 27 1800 UTC

2014-11-26 Thread Matthew Farrellee
On 11/26/2014 01:10 PM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote: Hi folks, We'll be having the Sahara team meeting as usual in #openstack-meeting-alt channel. Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda#Next_meetings

Re: [openstack-dev] #Personal# Ref: L3 service integration with service framework

2014-11-26 Thread Kevin Benton
+1. In the ODL case you would just want a completely separate L3 plugin. On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Mathieu Rohon mathieu.ro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, you can still add your own service plugin, as a mixin of L3RouterPlugin (have a look at brocade's code). AFAIU service framework would

Re: [openstack-dev] [Telco] [NFV] [Heat] Telco Orchestration

2014-11-26 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
Hi Mathieu, Can you tell us more about those projects? Does it include mutli-datacenter use cases? Most of this work was done as a custom projects for customers. I have to ask them for a permission to share details. We do not support multi-datacenter placement officially, but this feature was

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Proposal to add examples/usecase as part of new features / cli / functionality patches

2014-11-26 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - From: Deepak Shetty dpkshe...@gmail.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Hi stackers, I was having this thought which i believe applies to all projects of openstack (Hence All in the subject

[openstack-dev] [Cue] project update

2014-11-26 Thread Vipul Sabhaya
Hello, Thanks to those who I met personally at the Summit for your feedback on the project. For those that don’t know what Cue is, we’re building a Message Broker Provisioning service for Openstack. More info can be found here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cue Since the summit, we’re

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Splitting up the assignment component

2014-11-26 Thread Adam Young
On 11/26/2014 09:52 AM, David Chadwick wrote: I tend to agree with Morgan. There are resources and there are users. And there is something in the middle that says which users can access which resources. It might be an ACL, a RBAC role, or a set of ABAC attributes, or something else (such as a

Re: [openstack-dev] #Personal# Ref: L3 service integration with service framework

2014-11-26 Thread Kyle Mestery
There is already an out-of-tree L3 plugin, and as part of the plugin decomposition work, I'm planning to use this as the base for the new ODL driver in Kilo. Before you file specs and BPs, we should talk a bit more. Thanks, Kyle [1] https://github.com/dave-tucker/odl-neutron-drivers On Wed, Nov

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] scheduling a review day

2014-11-26 Thread Ben Nemec
We talked about this in the meeting this week, but just for the record I should be able to make it too. -Ben On 11/21/2014 11:07 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: We have a bit of a backlog in the Oslo review queue. Before we add a bunch of new reviews for Kilo work, I’d like to see if we can clear

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][kite] oslo.messaging changes for message security

2014-11-26 Thread Ben Nemec
On 11/14/2014 08:38 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:47 PM, Jamie Lennox jamielen...@redhat.com wrote: Hi all, To implement kite we need the ability to sign and encrypt the message and the message data. This needs to happen at a very low level in the oslo.messaging stack.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] How should libvirt pools work with distributed storage drivers?

2014-11-26 Thread Solly Ross
Hi! Some days ago, a bunch of Nova specs were approved for Kilo. Among them was https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-libvirt-storage-pools Now, while I do recognize the wisdom of using storage pools, I do see a couple of possible problems with this, especially in the light of my

Re: [openstack-dev] [sahara] team meeting Nov 27 1800 UTC

2014-11-26 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Thanks for the note, it sounds like we could cancel the meeting this week because of it... Anybody except Russian team folks planning to attend the meeting this week? On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/26/2014 01:10 PM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote: Hi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Handling soft delete for instance rows in a new cells database

2014-11-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/25/2014 09:34 PM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Nov 25, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Ahmed RAHAL ara...@iweb.com wrote: Hi, Le 2014-11-24 17:20, Michael Still a écrit : Heya, This is a new database, so its our big chance to get this right. So, ideas welcome... Some initial proposals: - we do what we

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Handling soft delete for instance rows in a new cells database

2014-11-26 Thread Belmiro Moreira
Hi, my experience is that soft delete is important to keep record of deleted instances and its characteristics. In fact in my organization we are obliged to keep these records for several months. However, it would be nice that after few months we were able to purge the DB with a nova tool. In the

Re: [openstack-dev] Where should Schema files live?

2014-11-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/20/2014 08:12 AM, Sandy Walsh wrote: Hey y'all, To avoid cross-posting, please inform your -infra / -operations buddies about this post. We've just started thinking about where notification schema files should live and how they should be deployed. Kind of a tricky problem. We could

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Handling soft delete for instance rows in a new cells database

2014-11-26 Thread Mike Bayer
Precisely. Why is the RDBMS the thing that is used for archival/audit logging? Why not a NoSQL store or a centralized log facility? All that would be needed would be for us to standardize on the format of the archival record, standardize on the things to provide with the archival record

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Handling soft delete for instance rows in a new cells database

2014-11-26 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/26/2014 03:39 PM, Belmiro Moreira wrote: Hi, my experience is that soft delete is important to keep record of deleted instances and its characteristics. In fact in my organization we are obliged to keep these records for several months. However, it would be nice that after few months we

[openstack-dev] [stable][sahara] Sahara is broken in stable/juno

2014-11-26 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi, Sahara is broken in stable/juno now by new alembic release (unit tests). The patch is already done and approved for master [0] and I've already backported it to the stable/juno branch [1]. [0] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137035/ [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137469/ P.S. If

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Handling soft delete for instance rows in a new cells database

2014-11-26 Thread Joshua Harlow
Mike Bayer wrote: Precisely. Why is the RDBMS the thing that is used for archival/audit logging? Why not a NoSQL store or a centralized log facility? All that would be needed would be for us to standardize on the format of the archival record, standardize on the things to provide with the

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Counting resources

2014-11-26 Thread Everett Toews
On Nov 20, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.commailto:egl...@redhat.com wrote: How about allowing the caller to specify what level of detail they require via the Accept header? ▶ GET /prefix/resource_name Accept: application/json; detail=concise The Accept request-header field can

[openstack-dev] [stable] Proposal to add Dave Walker back to stable-maint-core

2014-11-26 Thread Adam Gandelman
Hi All- Daviey was an original member of the stable-maint team and one of the driving forces behind the creation of the team and branches back in the early days. He was removed from the team later on during a pruning of inactive members. Recently, he has began focusing on the stable branches

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Counting resources

2014-11-26 Thread Shaunak Kashyap
detail=concise is not a media type and looking at the grammar in the RFC it wouldn’t be valid. I think the grammar would allow for application/json; detail=concise. See the last line in the definition of the media-range nonterminal in the grammar (copied below for convenience): Accept

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