Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Exceptional approval request for Cisco Driver Blueprint

2014-08-07 Thread Jay Faulkner
Hey, I agree with Dmitry that this spec has a huge scope. If you resubmitted one with only the power interface, that could be considered for an exception. A few specific reasons: 1) Auto-enrollment -- should probably be held off at the moment - This is something that was talked about

[openstack-dev] [devstack] Core team proposals

2014-08-07 Thread Dean Troyer
I want to nominate Ian Wienand (IRC: ianw) to the DevStack core team. Ian has been a consistent contributor and reviewer for some time now. He also manages the Red Hat CI that runs tests on Fedora, RHEL and CentOS so those platforms have been a particular point of interest for him. Ian has also

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Hi everyone, With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is facing complex challenges. How we handle those might determine the ultimate success or failure of OpenStack. With this cycle we hit

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Eoghan Glynn
Multidisciplinary training rules! As an architect with field experience building roads, sidewalks, roofs, city planning (and training in lean manufacturing and services) I think I can have a say ;) You're not really introducing a successful Kanban here, you're just clarifying that there

[openstack-dev] [sahara] Backports for 2014.1.2

2014-08-07 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hey sahara folks, I'm going to push 2014.1.2 tag to stable/icehouse branch next week, so, please, propose backports before the weekend and ping us to backport some sensitive fixes. Thanks you! -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Sahara Technical Lead (OpenStack Data Processing) Principal

[openstack-dev] [sahara] team meeting minutes Aug 7

2014-08-07 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Thanks everyone who have joined Sahara meeting. Here are the logs from the meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-08-07-18.02.html http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-08-07-18.02.log.html -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Sahara

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Chris Friesen
On 08/07/2014 12:32 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: If we try to limit the number of WIP slots, then surely aspiring contributors will simply work around that restriction by preparing the code they're interested in on their own private branches, or in their github forks? OK, some pragmatic

[openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-07 Thread Yuriy Taraday
Hello, oslo cores. I've finished polishing up oslo.concurrency repo at [0] - please take a look at it. I used my new version of graduate.sh [1] to generate it, so history looks a bit different from what you might be used to. I've made as little changes as possible, so there're still some steps

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 7, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:27 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: On 07/08/14 16:27, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 12:15 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: A (the?) solution is to register_opts() in foo

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-07 Thread Kevin Benton
I mean't 'side stepping' why GBP allows for the comment you made previous, With the latter, a mapping driver could determine that communication between these two hosts can be prevented by using an ACL on a router or a switch, which doesn't violate the user's intent and buys a performance

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Weekly meetings resuming + agenda

2014-08-07 Thread Brandon Logan
It's just my own preference. Others like webex/hangouts because it can be easier to talk about topics than in IRC, but with this many people and the latency delays, it can become quite cumbersome. Plus, it makes it easier for meeting notes. I'll deal with it while the majority really prefer it.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 6, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: We seem to be unable to address some key issues in the software we produce, and part of it is due to strategic contributors (and core reviewers)

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Core team proposals

2014-08-07 Thread Sean Dague
On 08/07/2014 02:09 PM, Dean Troyer wrote: I want to nominate Ian Wienand (IRC: ianw) to the DevStack core team. Ian has been a consistent contributor and reviewer for some time now. He also manages the Red Hat CI that runs tests on Fedora, RHEL and CentOS so those platforms have been a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Weekly meetings resuming + agenda

2014-08-07 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu 07 Aug 2014 12:12:26 PM PDT, Brandon Logan wrote: It's just my own preference. Others like webex/hangouts because it can be easier to talk about topics than in IRC, but with this many people and the latency delays, it can become quite cumbersome. Plus, it makes it easier for meeting

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Weekly meetings resuming + agenda

2014-08-07 Thread Brandon Logan
Those are definitely other big reasons, and probably the reason it is planned to move to IRC in the future, no matter what. I was just wondering how soon, if soon at all. On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 12:35 -0700, Stefano Maffulli wrote: On Thu 07 Aug 2014 12:12:26 PM PDT, Brandon Logan wrote: It's

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-07 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.com wrote: Hello, oslo cores. I've finished polishing up oslo.concurrency repo at [0] - please take a look at it. I used my new version of graduate.sh [1] to generate it, so history looks a bit different from what you might be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Weekly meetings resuming + agenda

2014-08-07 Thread Doug Wiegley
Personally, I prefer IRC for general meeting stuff, with separate breakouts to voice for topics that warrant it. Doug On 8/7/14, 2:28 AM, Stephen Balukoff sbaluk...@bluebox.net wrote: Hi Brandon, I don't think we've set a specific date to make the transition to IRC meetings. Is there a

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Ronak Shah
Hi, Following a very interesting and vocal thread on GBP for last couple of days and the GBP meeting today, GBP sub-team proposes following name changes to the resource. policy-point for endpoint policy-group for endpointgroup (epg) Please reply if you feel that it is not ok with reason and

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Eoghan Glynn
If we try to limit the number of WIP slots, then surely aspiring contributors will simply work around that restriction by preparing the code they're interested in on their own private branches, or in their github forks? OK, some pragmatic contributors will adjust their priorities to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Andrew Mann
Can you include the definition/description of what each is here as well? I think there was a description in the 100+ thread of doom, but I don't want to go back there :) On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Ronak Shah ronak.malav.s...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Following a very interesting and vocal

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Edgar Magana
I am sorry that I could not attend the GBP meeting. Is there any reason why the IEFT standard is not considered? http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3198 I would like to understand the argument why we are creating new names instead of using the standard ones. Edgar From: Ronak Shah

[openstack-dev] [Sahara] Swift trust authentication, status and concerns

2014-08-07 Thread Michael McCune
hi Sahara folks, This serves as a detailed status update for the Swift trust authentication spec[1], and to bring up concerns about integration for the Juno cycle. So far I have pushed a few reviews that start to lay the groundwork for the infrastructure needed to complete this blueprint. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-07 Thread Ben Nemec
LGTM. Plenty of things I could add to your list, but they're all post-import. :-) -Ben On 08/07/2014 01:58 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: Hello, oslo cores. I've finished polishing up oslo.concurrency repo at [0] - please take a look at it. I used my new version of graduate.sh [1] to generate

Re: [openstack-dev] Win The Enterprise Work Group Update

2014-08-07 Thread Anne Gentle
Hi Carol, thanks for the summary presentation. I listened in to the board meeting for this portion. More below. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Barrett, Carol L carol.l.barr...@intel.com wrote: I want to provide the community an update on the Win The Enterprise work group that came together

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Ryan Moats
Edgar- I can't speak for anyone else, but in my mind at least (and having been involved in the work that led up to 3198), the members of the groups being discussed here are not PEPs. As 3198 states, being a PEP implies running COPS and I don't see that as necessary for membership in GBP groups.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Ryan, point well taken. I am paraphrasing the discussion from today's GBP sub team meeting on the options considered and the eventual proposal for policy-point and policy-group: 18:36:50 SumitNaiksatam_ so regarding the endpoint terminology 18:36:53 SumitNaiksatam_ any suggestions? 18:36:56

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Edgar Magana
Ryan, COPS implies a common protocol to communicate with PEPs, which implies the same communication mechanism basically. So, you are implying that endpoints in GBP will use different protocol to communicate with decisions entities? It that is the case.. Well it sounds very complex for a simple

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Edgar Magana
Thanks for sharing this Sumit. Again, my apologies for not attending the meeting, I just I couldn’t. It seems you had a good discussion about the naming and I do respect the decision. Cheers, Edgar On 8/7/14, 2:32 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Ryan, point well taken. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Ryan Moats
Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.com wrote on 08/07/2014 04:37:39 PM: From: Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 08/07/2014 04:40 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][policy] Group Based Policy - Renaming

2014-08-07 Thread Edgar Magana
That I understand it! Thanks for the clarification. Edgar From: Ryan Moats rmo...@us.ibm.commailto:rmo...@us.ibm.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Thursday, August 7, 2014 at

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-07 Thread Aaron Rosen
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: I mean't 'side stepping' why GBP allows for the comment you made previous, With the latter, a mapping driver could determine that communication between these two hosts can be prevented by using an ACL on a router or a

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-07 Thread Mohammad Banikazemi
Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote on 08/07/2014 06:23:56 AM: From: Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 08/07/2014 06:25 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward Armando M. wrote: This

Re: [openstack-dev] introducing cyclops

2014-08-07 Thread Eoghan Glynn
Dear All, Let me use my first post to this list to introduce Cyclops and initiate a discussion towards possibility of this platform as a future incubated project in OpenStack. We at Zurich university of Applied Sciences have a python project in open source (Apache 2 Licensing) that

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 08/07/2014 01:41 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: My point was simply that we don't have direct control over the contributors' activities This is not correct and I've seen it repeated too often to let it go uncorrected: we (the OpenStack project as a whole) have a lot of control over contributors to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Brant Knudson
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:46 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: In any case, the operative point is that CONF.attribute must always be evaluated inside run-time code, never at module load time. ...unless

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Eoghan Glynn
On 08/07/2014 01:41 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: My point was simply that we don't have direct control over the contributors' activities This is not correct and I've seen it repeated too often to let it go uncorrected: we (the OpenStack project as a whole) have a lot of control over

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-07 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Chris Friesen chris.frie...@windriver.com wrote: On 08/06/2014 05:41 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 06/08/14 18:12, Yuriy Taraday wrote: Well, as per Git author, that's how you should do with not-CVS. You have cheap merges - use them instead of erasing parts of

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] [Infra] Devstack and Testing for ironic-python-agent``

2014-08-07 Thread Jay Faulkner
Hi all, At the recent Ironic mid-cycle meetup, we got the first version of the ironic-python-agent (IPA) driver merged. There are a few reviews we need merged (and their dependencies) across a few other projects in order to begin testing it automatically. We would like to eventually gate IPA

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-07 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: On 08/06/2014 05:35 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: You keep mentioning detached HEAD and reflog. I have never had to deal with either when doing a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Passing a list of ResourceGroup's attributes back to its members

2014-08-07 Thread Zane Bitter
On 07/08/14 13:22, Tomas Sedovic wrote: Hi all, I have a ResourceGroup which wraps a custom resource defined in another template: servers: type: OS::Heat::ResourceGroup properties: count: 10 resource_def: type: my_custom_server

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-07 Thread Chris Friesen
On 08/07/2014 04:52 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: I hope you don't think that this thread was about rebases vs merges. It's about keeping track of your changes without impact on review process. But if you rebase, what is stopping you from keeping whatever private history you want and then rebase

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-07 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Chris Friesen chris.frie...@windriver.com wrote: On 08/07/2014 04:52 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: I hope you don't think that this thread was about rebases vs merges. It's about keeping track of your changes without impact on review process. But if you rebase,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/07/2014 09:07 AM, Sean Dague wrote: I think the difference is slot selection would just be Nova drivers. I think there is an assumption in the old system that everyone in Nova core wants to prioritize the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-07 Thread Michael Still
It seems to me that the tension here is that there are groups who would really like to use features in newer libvirts that we don't CI on in the gate. Is it naive to think that a possible solution here is to do the following: - revert the libvirt version_cap flag - instead implement a third

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] Multi-ironic-conductor issue

2014-08-07 Thread Jander lu
Hi, all if I have more than one ironic conductor, so does each conductor should has their own PXE server and DHCP namespace or they just share one centralized pxe server or dhcp server ? if they share one centralized pxe and dhcp server, so how does they support HA?

[openstack-dev] [oslo.db]A proposal for DB read/write separation

2014-08-07 Thread Li Ma
Getting a massive amount of information from data storage to be displayed is where most of the activity happens in OpenStack. The two activities of reading data and writing (creating, updating and deleting) data are fundamentally different. The optimization for these two opposite database

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for instance-level snapshots in Nova

2014-08-07 Thread Preston L. Bannister
Did this ever go anywhere? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-January/024315.html Looking at what is needed to get backup working in OpenStack, and this seems the most recent reference. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 03:56:04AM -0700, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/07/2014 02:12 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: [. . .] Excellent sugestion. I've wondered multiple times that if we could dedicate a good chunk (or whole) of a specific release for heads down bug fixing/stabilization. As it has

Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-07 Thread Robert Collins
On 8 August 2014 10:52, Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.com wrote: I don't dislike rebases because I sometimes use a bit longer version of it. I would be glad to avoid them because they destroy history that can help me later. rebase doesn't destroy any history. gc destroys history. See git

[openstack-dev] [cinder] Bug#1231298 - size parameter for volume creation

2014-08-07 Thread Ganapathy, Sandhya
Hi, This is to discuss Bug #1231298 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1231298 Bug description : When one creates a volume from a snapshot or another volume, the size argument is calculated automatically. In the case of an image it needs to be specified though, for something larger than

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-07 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 8 August 2014 02:06, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: 1: I think that ultimately should live in infra as part of check, but I'd be ok with it starting as a third party if that delivers us something faster. I'd be happy enough to donate resources to get that going if we decide to go

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Kevin Benton
Can you link to the etherpad you mentioned? In the mean time, apologies for another analogy in advance. :-) If I give you an API to sort a list, I'm free to implement it however I want as long as I return a sorted list. However, there is no way me to know based on a call to this API that you

[openstack-dev] [nova] About response of Get server details API v2

2014-08-08 Thread Kanno, Masaki
Hi all, Jclouds put out a stack trace when I tried Get server details of API v2 by jclouds. I looked into a response body of the API, and found that a value of image was an empty string as follows. I think the value of image should be an empty dictionary like Get server details of API v3. What

[openstack-dev] [gerrit] Preparing a patch that has dependency to more than one code under review

2014-08-08 Thread Nader Lahouti
Hi, Is it possible to send a patch for review (i.e. A) on gerrit based on multiple commit under the review (i.e. B and C)? Based on the wiki page to add dependency these command should be used: A-B, A-C (no dependency between B and C) #fetch change under review and check out branch based on that

[openstack-dev] [HEAT] Is there any line length limitation in paste deploy configuration file?

2014-08-08 Thread Baohua Yang
Hi, Recently I have noticed the api-paste. ini file in heat has some very long lines (over the popular 80c). Wondering if there's recommended length limitation on it? Sometime, users have to read the file and change the configuration value, so I think it should be kept readable.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 08/08/2014 12:12 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: On 08/07/2014 01:41 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: My point was simply that we don't have direct control over the contributors' activities This is not correct and I've seen it repeated too often to let it go uncorrected: we (the OpenStack project as

Re: [openstack-dev] introducing cyclops

2014-08-08 Thread Piyush Harsh
Dear Eoghan, Thanks for your comments. Although you are correct that rating, charging, and billing policies are commercially sensitive to the operators, still if an operator has an openstack installation, I do not see why the stack could not offer a service that supports ways for the operator to

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Core team proposals

2014-08-08 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: Please respond in the usual manner, +1 or concerns. +1, I would be happy to see Ian joining the team. Chmouel ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Ryu status

2014-08-08 Thread YAMAMOTO Takashi
just an update: the Neutron Ryu CI is getting stable now. please let me know if you noticed any problems. thank you. YAMAMOTO Takashi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [gerrit] Preparing a patch that has dependency to more than one code under review

2014-08-08 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Hi Nader, Le 08/08/2014 09:23, Nader Lahouti a écrit : Hi, Is it possible to send a patch for review (i.e. A) on gerrit based on multiple commit under the review (i.e. B and C)? Based on the wiki page to add dependency these command should be used: A-B, A-C (no dependency between B and C)

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] how to deprecate a plugin

2014-08-08 Thread YAMAMOTO Takashi
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:43 AM, YAMAMOTO Takashi yamam...@valinux.co.jp wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:17 PM, YAMAMOTO Takashi yamam...@valinux.co.jp wrote: hi, what's the right procedure to deprecate a plugin? we (ryu team) are considering deprecating ryu plugin, in favor of ofagent.

[openstack-dev] Further discussions on Cyclops

2014-08-08 Thread Piyush Harsh
Dear Andre, I have not been an active user or IRC, but I have just now started using it, I use the handle PH7_0 on irc://rajaniemi.freenode.net ... Tell me the time and date and we can discuss more on cyclops. Cheers, Piyush. ___ Dr. Piyush Harsh, Ph.D.

[openstack-dev] use of compute node as a storage

2014-08-08 Thread shailendra acharya
i made 4 vm 1 controller, 1 network and 2 compute and i want 1 compute to run as a storage so plz help how can i do such ? ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] introducing cyclops

2014-08-08 Thread Stephane Albert
On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 12:01:04PM +0200, Piyush Harsh wrote: Dear All, Let me use my first post to this list to introduce Cyclops and initiate a discussion towards possibility of this platform as a future incubated project in OpenStack. We at Zurich university of Applied Sciences have a

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Thierry Carrez
Eoghan Glynn wrote: On 08/07/2014 01:41 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: My point was simply that we don't have direct control over the contributors' activities This is not correct and I've seen it repeated too often to let it go uncorrected: we (the OpenStack project as a whole) have a lot of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 08/08/2014 11:37 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Personally I think we just need to get better at communicating the downstream expectations, so that if we create waste, it's clearly upstream fault rather than downstream. Currently it's the lack of communication that makes developers produce more

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-08 Thread Matthew Booth
On 07/08/14 18:54, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:46 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: In any case, the operative point is that CONF.attribute must always be evaluated inside run-time code, never at module load time. ...unless you call register_opts() safely, which is what I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-08 Thread Matthew Booth
On 07/08/14 19:02, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:41 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: ... or arg is an object which defines __nonzero__(), or defines __getattr__() and then explodes because of the unexpected lookup of a __nonzero__ attribute. Or it's False (no quotes when printed

Re: [openstack-dev] backport fixes to old branches

2014-08-08 Thread Osanai, Hisashi
Hi, On Tuesday, August 05, 2014 8:57 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: Thanks. To facilitate quicker backport, you may also propose the patch for review yourself. It may take time before stable maintainers or other interested parties get to the bug and do cherry-pick. I did cherry-pick for

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Core team proposals

2014-08-08 Thread chandankumar
On 08/08/2014 01:05 PM, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com mailto:dtro...@gmail.com wrote: Please respond in the usual manner, +1 or concerns. +1, I would be happy to see Ian joining the team. +1 Chmouel

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] [swift] Improving ceilometer.objectstore.swift_middleware

2014-08-08 Thread Osanai, Hisashi
Hi, Is there any way to proceed ahead the following topic? Best Regards, Hisashi Osanai On Friday, August 01, 2014 7:32 PM, Hisashi Osanai wrote: I would like to follow this discussion so I picked up points. - There are two way to collect info from swift, one is pollster and the other

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-08 Thread Neependra Kumar Khare
- Original Message - From: Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 4:00:35 PM Subject: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally 1. Rally as an essential QA tool Performance testing (and

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-08 Thread Matthew Booth
On 08/08/14 11:04, Matthew Booth wrote: On 07/08/14 18:54, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:46 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: In any case, the operative point is that CONF.attribute must always be evaluated inside run-time code, never at module load time. ...unless you call

[openstack-dev] [Manila] Debug data for the NFS v4 hang issue

2014-08-08 Thread Deepak Shetty
Per yesterday's IRC meeting, I have updated the debug data I had collected in the github issue @ https://github.com/csabahenk/cirros/issues/9 It has data for both : 32bit nfs client accessing 64bit cirros nfs server 64bit nfs client accessing 64bit cirros nfs server thanx, deepak

Re: [openstack-dev] ceilometer] [ft] Improving ceil.objectstore.swift_middleware

2014-08-08 Thread Chris Dent
On Fri, 8 Aug 2014, Osanai, Hisashi wrote: Is there any way to proceed ahead the following topic? There are three active reviews that are somewhat related to this topic: Use a FakeRequest object to test middleware: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110302/ Publish samples on other threads:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Deprecating CONF.block_device_allocate_retries_interval

2014-08-08 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 08/06/2014 07:54 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: I bring this up on the mailing list because I think Liyi's patch offers an interesting future direction to the way that we think about our retry approach in Nova. Instead of having hard-coded or configurable interval times, I think Liyi's approach of

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Question on decorators in Ceilometer pecan framework

2014-08-08 Thread Pendergrass, Eric
Hi, We have been struggling to get a decorator working for proposed new RBAC functionality in ceilometer-api. We're hitting a problem where GET request query parameters are mucked up by our decorator. Here's an example call: curl -H X-Auth-Token:$TOKEN

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Nova] API design and usability

2014-08-08 Thread Andrew Laski
On 08/07/2014 07:57 AM, Mathieu Gagné wrote: On 2014-08-06 7:58 PM, Robert Collins wrote: I'm astounded by this proposal - it doesn't remove the garbage collection complexity at all - it transfers it from our code - Nova - onto end users. So rather than one tested and consolidated

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-08 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/07/2014 08:06 PM, Michael Still wrote: It seems to me that the tension here is that there are groups who would really like to use features in newer libvirts that we don't CI on in the gate. Is it naive to think that a possible solution here is to do the following: - revert the

[openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Freescale CI log site is being blocked

2014-08-08 Thread Kyle Mestery
Trinath: In looking at your FWaaS review [1], I noticed the site you are using for log storage is being blacklisted again, at least by Cisco WSA appliances. Thus, I cannot see the logs for it. Did you change the location of your log storage again? Is anyone else seeing this issue? Thanks, Kyle

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Question on decorators in Ceilometer pecan framework

2014-08-08 Thread Pendergrass, Eric
Sorry, wrong BP review link below. Here is the correct one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112127/3. Please disregard the wiki link. From: Pendergrass, Eric Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 6:50 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Cc: Giannetti, Fabio Subject: [Ceilometer] Question on

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db]A proposal for DB read/write separation

2014-08-08 Thread Roman Podoliaka
Hi Li, How are you going to make this separation transparent? I mean, generally, in a function code, you can't know in advance if the transaction will be read-only or it will contain an INSERT/UPDATE/DELETE statement. On the other hand, as a developer, you could analyze the DB queries that can be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Question on decorators in Ceilometer pecan framework

2014-08-08 Thread Pendergrass, Eric
Wrong link again, this is embarrassing :( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112137/3 From: Pendergrass, Eric Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 7:15 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: RE: [Ceilometer] Question on decorators in Ceilometer pecan framework Sorry, wrong BP review link

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Philip Cheong
This thread couldn't help but make me wonder what kind of problems people hit developing on the linux kernel. I discovered this pretty incredible article which seemed to have enough relevant information in it to post it, but also give me the hopes that Openstack and it's contributors are

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db]A proposal for DB read/write separation

2014-08-08 Thread Mike Bayer
On Aug 8, 2014, at 12:03 AM, Li Ma skywalker.n...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'd like to propose a transparent read/write separation method for oslo.db that every project may happily takes advantage of it without any code modification. A single transaction begins, which is to emit a series of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Question on decorators in Ceilometer pecan framework

2014-08-08 Thread David Stanek
It looks like maybe WSME or Pecan is inspecting the method signature. Have you tried to change the order of the decorators? On Aug 8, 2014, at 9:16, Pendergrass, Eric eric.pendergr...@hp.com wrote: Wrong link again, this is embarrassing L https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112137/3 From:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-08 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/08/2014 01:46 AM, Luke Gorrie wrote: On 8 August 2014 02:06, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com mailto:mi...@stillhq.com wrote: 1: I think that ultimately should live in infra as part of check, but I'd be ok with it starting as a third party if that delivers us something

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Chris Dent
On Fri, 8 Aug 2014, Nikola Đipanov wrote: To me the runway approach seems like yet another set of arbitrary hoops that we will put in place so that we don't have to tell people that we don't have bandwidth/willingness to review and help their contribution in. I pretty much agree with this. As

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-08 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 8 August 2014 15:27, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: It sounds like what you're working on is a separate thing. Roger. Just wanted to check if our work could have some broader utility, but as you say we do have a specific use case in mind. Cheers! -Luke

[openstack-dev] [oslo] usage patterns for oslo.config

2014-08-08 Thread Coles, Alistair
I've been looking at the implications of applying oslo.config in Swift, and I have a question about the best pattern for registering options. Looking at how keystone uses oslo.config, the pattern seems to be to have all options declared and registered 'up-front' in a single place

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Hi everyone, With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is facing complex challenges. How we handle those might

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Michael Still wrote: [...] I think an implied side effect of the runway system is that nova-drivers would -2 blueprint reviews which were not occupying a slot. (If we start doing more -2's I think we will need to

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Bug#1231298 - size parameter for volume creation

2014-08-08 Thread Dean Troyer
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Ganapathy, Sandhya sandhya.ganapa...@hp.com wrote: This is to discuss Bug #1231298 – https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1231298 ... Conclusion reached with this bug is that, we need to modify cinder client in order to accept optional size parameter (as

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-08 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/08/2014 05:06 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Michael Still wrote: [...] I think an implied side effect of the runway system is that nova-drivers would -2 blueprint reviews which were not occupying a slot. (If we start doing more -2's I think we will need to explore how to not block on

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Core team proposals

2014-08-08 Thread Gary Kotton
+1 From: chandankumar chandankumar.093...@gmail.commailto:chandankumar.093...@gmail.com Reply-To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Friday, August 8, 2014 at 2:14 PM To: OpenStack List

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Wuhongning
Does it make sense to move all advanced extension out of ML2, like security group, qos...? Then we can just talk about advanced service itself, without bothering basic neutron object (network/subnet/port) Traditionally, SG is applied in CN, and FWaas is applied in NN (bound to L3 agent),

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-08 Thread Anne Gentle
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:30 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Hi everyone, At the TC meeting yesterday we discussed Rally program request and incubation request. We quickly dismissed the incubation request, as Rally appears to be able to live happily on top of OpenStack and

[openstack-dev] [qa] Do I need a spec for testing the compute os-networks API?

2014-08-08 Thread Matt Riedemann
This came up while reviewing the fix for bug 1327406 [1]. Basically the os-networks API behaves differently depending on your backing network manager in nova-network. We run Tempest in the gate with the FlatDHCPManager, which has the bug; if you try to list networks as a non-admin user it

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Do I need a spec for testing the compute os-networks API?

2014-08-08 Thread Andrea Frittoli
Thanks Matt for bringing this up/ There is a tiny start in flight here [0] - if you plan to work on providing full testing coverage for the n-net api you may want to create a spec with a link to an etherpad to help track / split the work. andrea [0] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107552/21

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Do I need a spec for testing the compute os-networks API?

2014-08-08 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 8/8/2014 9:50 AM, Andrea Frittoli wrote: Thanks Matt for bringing this up/ There is a tiny start in flight here [0] - if you plan to work on providing full testing coverage for the n-net api you may want to create a spec with a link to an etherpad to help track / split the work. andrea

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