Robert, this is a WEBWORK list, not a javablogs list. That said, javablogs
does that so it can track the popular entries.
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Robert Nicholson wrote:
Like a lot of other people I get java.blogs daily update however I
believe it would be a lot more helpful to publish the links
The Portlet API is in final draft, hardly swimming through JSR. Any
changes are likely to be minor at best, and pluto is a workable reference
implementation, even if it's certainly got that jakarta smell to it.
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Konstantin Priblouda wrote:
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I'd like to propose that a shortcut method for this should be added to the
ActionContext. :)
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Daniel Pfeifer wrote:
%=ActionContext.getContext().getActionInvocation().getProxy().getActionName
()%
-Original Message-
From: Patrick Holzmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I use Orion. I deploy in an .ear, and it works fine for me...
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Francisco Hernandez wrote:
i've been using orionserver for development but im so tired of having to restart to
test things (yes, development mode
is turned on), what app server are you guys using or tools to
, just compiling classes
into the webapp's classes dir.
Joseph Ottinger wrote:
I use Orion. I deploy in an .ear, and it works fine for me...
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Francisco Hernandez wrote:
i've been using orionserver for development but im so tired of having to restart
to test things (yes
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Anoop Ranganath wrote:
Yeah. It's not a big task, after all. (Maybe it is and I just don't
notice, since it's so trivial to do with ant.)
The latter is the case. It is a very big task, and you could easily
increase your development efficiency by 100% if you worked with
Yes, it will. Again, try it.
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, remigijus wrote:
Ok I figured that. Now evrything works. But still have a quesion if I'm
going to add a new objet to session map will it be available in the session.
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What would be realy nice is if the JSTL's EL had ben written with
extensibility in mind to begin with, a lot like what Joe Walnes ended up
putting into the FormTags project. What worked there is that you had a
ww: prefix to specify that the formtags were to use the expression
language for webwork,
This patch removes the warning from the war task from the inclusion of a
web.xml in the .war. If we end up putting a sample web.xml that's
actually meant for inclusion as content, we'll need to change the exclude
slightly.
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Shouldn't the DTD for xwork be on the opensymphony site?
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Lars, WHAT about the taglib.tld doesn't work? I filed one JIRA issue
myself today about it, but I have no idea if your issue was the same as
mine.
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Lars Fischer wrote:
I'm not pleased to announce that this version does not work with WebLogic
(taglib.tld).
Maybe the final
Is there an IRC channel dedicated to webwork anywhere, where one could
bring up issues and questions without annoying the struts/GUI/etc people?
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Yeah, but that'll annoy everyone else. :)
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Wayland Chan wrote:
Your best bet is #java on EFNet and hope one of the developers are online. Hani, Pat
and a couple of others are on there quite often.
Is there an IRC channel dedicated to webwork anywhere, where one could
Is there a possibility that a beta 2 download could be made for WW2?
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of thing, outside of letting it bubble up to the
caller?
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Hani Suleiman wrote:
ExceptionAware!
Chris Nokleberg wrote:
Joseph Ottinger wrote:
What I'd thought of was adding an extra method to Action and
ActionSupport. The Action method's signature might look like
A client of mine has been trying out WW1.3 and the exception handling
around execute() yielded a question and suggestion. The issue is that
throwing exceptions either bubbles up to the webapp layer, or involves a
pattern where a common ActionSupport derivative wraps a method call in
various
an existing wheel. Sure, it's maybe a bit more convenient to
use than the built-in mechanism in the servlet container, but it's still
stepping on its toes and making things that little bit murkier.
Joseph Ottinger wrote:
A client of mine has been trying out WW1.3 and the exception handling
- makes it sound like it's something common
enough to be normalizable.
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, James Cook wrote:
-Original Message-
Behalf Of Joseph Ottinger
What I'd thought of was adding an extra method to Action and
ActionSupport. The Action method's signature might look like
Well, the original context was in that of WW1.3 as opposed to WW2, but
that would work as well, and certainly be more flexible, I suppose, with
nicer behaviour towards those who already implemented the pattern in their
own actions.
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Chris Nokleberg wrote:
Joseph Ottinger
Then wouldn't it be the invoker's responsibility, rather than the
framework's? I'd say that exceptions should be delegated to the most
responsible party, not the framework. Thus, the web app exception handler,
or the caller's, in the case of XWork's.
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Francisco Hernandez wrote:
Maybe add somthing to the deprecation messages that suggest what you
should be using instead?
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, Hani Suleiman wrote:
Well, the deprecation serves as a marker to indicate 'this is not a
recommended approach', sure it'll never go away (nothing deprecated in
the JDK has gone
Wouldn't it be a better use of your time to work on WW2?
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Hani Suleiman wrote:
Would anyone mind terribly if I had shuffled things around in ww 1.3?
The directory structure is annoying, the changes I'd like to make are
to bring it more inline with other os projects,
I do it. I have a url attribute in a base action, and my browse.action
uses it from the valuestack, as it's set by non-terminals that *act* like
terminals.
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Robert Douglass wrote:
I have another question on how people organize the navigation within their
apps. First a use
Would it be better to have something like this:
ww:field name=foo.bar label='Bar' /
instead of
ww:text name=foo.bar label='Bar' /
Consider: the rendering engine can see that the field is a String, so it
can generally figure out the rendering type. Maybe String isn't a
brilliant idea - maybe
Create conditions that cause the action to return INPUT.
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Chris Widhelm wrote:
In WW1 how do I get to a specific view via a URL?
For example: when I use the link a href=my.actionlink/a that will take
me to the SUCCESS view of the action called 'my'. How would I get to
Okay, now that WW2 is in beta, I finally decided I'd give it the old
college try... and decided that, hey, I didn't go to college, maybe I
should wait.
However... I'd still like to take a shot at it. The docs, as usual, blow,
so here's my continuing (and standing) offer: I'll be glad to help
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Hani Suleiman wrote:
A whole big bunch of people. If you want to show progress of batch
processes, a web app is probably the absolutely stupidest way of doing
it. A request/response paradigm is a pretty foolish way of providing
continuous feedback. A swing client would be
After it's done, I'll put it in JDJ :)
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
I agree with Hani's points - but must add that on the whole this is awesome!
Very solid, lots of text, good points made throughout.
I know Hani meant to commend you on the overall quality, but forgot (or
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Rene Gielen wrote:
On Sunday 17 August 2003 21:59, boxed wrote:
Jason Carreira wrote:
You should try out the FQN plugin for IDEA... It makes it as easy as
CTRL-SHIFT-Q to get the fully qualified name.
On the other hand, if you need a tool to do it, it's obviously
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Jason Carreira wrote:
So who's building full J2EE apps without a web front end (at least for the
adminsitration)? Even someone doing big batch processes needs to see how they're
progressing sometimes...
I am. TechNews.
A few hours ago, I got out of a meeting discussing the merits of WebWork
1.3 vs. Struts. I'm officially really discouraged about it (sorry, Bob)
because of a comment someone made: Struts tools support is there, it's
sort of usable (his example didn't actually work), and it has pretty
icons.
This
Jason, Snowwolf Wagner and I suggested something very much like this two
years ago. Its time may have come, but it's certainly not a new idea.
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Jason Carreira wrote:
I'd like to create an opensource web application framework built on the
pieces we have and some outside
Try using either one. The one you're able to use without blowing your
cookies on your shoes is the one you should use. (If you're sensible,
that won't be struts.)
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Butt, Dudley wrote:
this is such a tough decision, I've been researching for almost a week now, and I
cant
Well, I personally find SF's anonymous CVS highly annoying - move WW 1.x
too, and let's get a new release out.
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Dick Zetterberg wrote:
If it is not possible to get the complete history then I agree with Bill and
think that WW1.x CVS should stay at SF. Since the original
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Lars Fischer wrote:
As someone once said, I could shit on your doorstep then proclaim that
I did it for free. i will then sit back and wait for you to express
gratitude for my free gift.
Maybe you're using the OS counterpart of sf.net: Windows ?
Never had any
As I was abruptly told by ... um... someone, use ActionContext to get the
session stuff:
ActionContext.getContext().getSession(); // etc
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Figured it out, my action class wasn't implementing SessionAware...
SessionAware seems to be deprecated
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, John Patterson wrote:
Joseph,
With Tiles multiple components (or values) to be placed into a template
can
be defined in an XML file or in a jsp page. This allows complex pages
to be
composed by specifying what components you want and in what order.
You can
Okay, I've finally gotten around to playing with WW2, and... uh... things
are still a little dark.
Partially it's because I'm doing too much at one time: I'm learning
Velocity and starting WW2 at the same time. That said... that's more or
less what you might be able to expect.
How do I invoke an
Yes. The strign returned is JUST a string; the SUCCESS, INPUT, ERROR codes
are merely standard, not required. For example, I return notloggedin,
nopermission, and others in my actions as I need to.
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003, [ISO-8859-2] Ale¹[ISO-8859-2] Kracík wrote:
Hi
Is there an easy way how to
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Hariharan wrote:
Hi
I would like to know in-depth about the Framework of Webwork.Pls
explain about the
Webwork Model Components.
As I understand it, WebWork model components are actually composites,
build through a stack, called the ValueStack. Models are
Since I've spoken of it to some of the WW developers and on the list, I'd
like to mention that I have my wiki-with-bloglike features (or maybe
blog-with-wikilike features) online. It's still undergoing some fairly
important revisions, but the rate of change has decreased enormously.
There's still
Heh, lots of blogs being written with webwork lately: perhaps we could
call it blogwork to leverage such a common use.
For what it's worth, my blog using webwork, sitemesh, and portalwizard is
almost done: it's got about 5% of noncritical functionality to finish and
it'll be deployable. :)
On
-Pat
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WW in BlogLand
Heh, lots of blogs being written with webwork lately: perhaps we could
call it blogwork to leverage
It's easy to do. I've done it. :)
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Jason Carreira wrote:
Speaking of Blog / Wiki... Patrick and I have been discussing what
Xroller should be... We've both agreed that using Radeox, from the
SnipSnap project, as an entry / rendering engine would be good. Patrick
wants
input type=hidden name=foo value=ww:property value='foo' /
Note that hidden elements don't have a user interface component.
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Snehal K.Gandhi wrote:
is there any option of having hidden fields in my page, there is no such
attribute ui:hidden./
how do i use that.
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Over to blog-city? .. :)
? What does a blog have to do with it?
Really I wish you come back to this community with your 'older' self, or
shall I say 'other' self? Along with ideas, code contributions, and the
much loved doc. Ghosh did I say doc?
Yes. What I do is put my jsps in $WEBAPP/WEB-INF/jsp/foo.jsp (for
example), which prevents the client from requesting it directly. Views can
be mapped like that, so:
login.action=LoginAction
login.success=/WEB-INF/jsp/login/loggedin.jsp
login.input=/WEB-INF/jsp/login/loginform.jsp
How about ConfigurableAndDeployableThingy? That way, nobody will EVER fool
with it, so it's pretty safe to deploy.
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Jason Carreira wrote:
Well, it's supposed to provide an interface to allow the configuration
to be modified and then deployed to runtime. I'm not sure how
I think this is a good idea, no need to reinvent the wheel.
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Dave Johnson wrote:
That certainly sounds cool. I'll be watch and learn
from the masters.
Another approach might be to build around Blojsom
(http://blojsom.sourceforge.net), a light-weight Java
blogging
Using blojsom or Roller, something like that. When you use someone else's
front- and back-ends, it saves a lot of potential work, and speeds up
implementation time.
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Jason Carreira wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent
.
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Re: Webwork 2.0 example app
Using blojsom or Roller, something like that. When you use
someone else's
front- and back
Actually, it's code that just implements ActionSupport, since
ActionSupport's doExecute() already returns SUCCESS, if memory serves.
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, [iso-8859-1] Hai Pham wrote:
Hi,
-1
IMO, this is extra code which isn't necessary at all.
--- Andre Mermegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
/document.action?id=12124
?
Maybe it's possible... We'd have to use regex or somesuch when looking
up action configs... Could be a lot of overhead (as opposed to a quick
map lookup).
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18
Actually, when I saw this, a huge light went off in my head. This would be
PERFECT for a CMS-type system: imagine an action like:
http://localhost/cms/12124.action
... where 12124 was actually a document key!
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Jason Carreira wrote:
Not currently. What's the case where
Inline...
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Kelvin Tan wrote:
See inline reply.
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 05:01:12 -0500 (EST), Joseph Ottinger said:
I'm one of those against extra dependencies. As I said in the
mailing list previously (see
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=3757306
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Jason Carreira wrote:
I guess that depends on how much help we get :-) It would be good if
someone besides Patrick and I were to work on things (hint hint).
Patrick and I were talking about releasing a first Alpha of XW1.0 /
WW2.0. What features from WW1.x need to be
?
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 03:40:57 -0500 (EST), Joseph Ottinger said:
Depends on the use. I don't think there'd be a problem eventually
allowing Jelly's use, but depending on Jelly would be a Bad Thing.
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Kelvin Tan wrote:
Did a search in the archives and didn't find anything
Depends on the use. I don't think there'd be a problem eventually allowing
Jelly's use, but depending on Jelly would be a Bad Thing.
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Kelvin Tan wrote:
Did a search in the archives and didn't find anything noteworthy re: WW +
Jelly, so thought I'd bring it up.
Has this
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Kelvin Tan wrote:
Interesting.
flamebaitI happen to come from the Turbine + hardcore Velocity (JSP sucks,
mostly) camp, so would be interested to know why you choose JSP + Velocity, and
not either. /flamebait
Does it have anything to do with WebWork support for either?
I've been wondering about this. Isn't OSCore, like, CORE? Why not put
useful things in it and use it, the way it was done a while back?
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Patrick Lightbody wrote:
Where are we using BeanUtils and Digester? We ARE parsing the XML by
hand, using a
Looks good - and even if it's wrong, it should go on the wiki so people
can correct it.
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
Almost, but not quite. :)
RULES OF THE STACK:
1) The stack is just a stack of objects.
2) Initially the stack contains the Action executed (this is why as
going in?
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, [ISO-8859-1] Rickard Öberg wrote:
Joseph Ottinger wrote:
Can we PLEASE get back to useful discussion? I'm interested in seeing if
XWork is usable, and how much in flux it's considered to be.
Alright, I'd estimate that the fluxness of XWork is about 70%.
Which
of OpenSymphony, I have its best interests at heart. What better
input can there be than that of an experienced, caring user?
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, [ISO-8859-1] Rickard Öberg wrote:
Joseph Ottinger wrote:
I'd prefer adding it to the wiki or the current release of WW, since there
are some users who
I don't think we're sure yet.
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, [iso-8859-1] Joel Cordonnier wrote:
Hi !
Can someone explain me what is XWork really !? Just a new version of WW, with
additional functonalities, or WW with basic API implementation (Portlet API..).
This question, because i want to port
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
Hani,
Do you mean servlet filters? In which case - surely they don't work at all
outside a web environment?
As Rickard has pointed out, So? There's little intent - except by a few
over-outspoken users - to get XWork out of the web arena.
And
My point precisely. I think, given the current culture of XWork, we're
looking at WW 2.0 (major revision change) instead of XWork... and the
webwork name becomes appropriate.
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Michael Blake Day wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you all rename WebWork to XWork
What kind of real world example applications do you want? Wafer has a
working webwork example...
And docs? Who needs them - they're for people who aren't willing to roll
their sleeves up and dig directly into the code, right? (Note droll
humour.)
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Heng Sin Low wrote:
I
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, [ISO-8859-1] Rickard Öberg wrote:
Joseph Ottinger wrote:
He was probably offended by all the horrible negativity aimed at him on
#java.
What was said about him on #java?
I dunno, probably something like Ken is supposed to be doing
documentation, which is really cool
Actually, all this talk of filters, etc. makes me wonder if it *is*
supposed to be WebWork 2.0 as opposed to XWork. Applying filters to a
Swing app would be, um, great fun.
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Jason Carreira wrote:
As opposed to what? This is a model-2 MVC framework. It uses a controller
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, [UTF-8] Rickard Öberg wrote:
Joseph Ottinger wrote:
Well, note the quotes I used. Correctness can be taken a lot of ways.
What I was referring to was buzzword-compatible correctness, where the
comp sci grads are happy applying all of their new-found knowledge in ways
Jack, I've asked for this myself before. I'd still like to see it put in
place - maybe XWork will do it? - but for now, you'll have to add some
custom code in order to get this done. (Maybe I'll write a patch.)
However... I'm not sure your problem as explained needs the solution
you're asking
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl as replacement for WW EL
I guess I'd like to see the actual expression used:
ww:property value=foo.bar / (calls foo.getBar
*vret* im officially a webwork fan.. got more done today than i did in 2
or 3 days with struts
*vret* later
*vret* had to search the API for a bit to figure out how to get a hold of
the Http Request
*vret* but once i found ServletRequestAware, i was all set.
*vret* because i needed to be able to
Can you make that source available on the wiki, perhaps?
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Bill Lynch wrote:
Erik,
The current redirect action doesn't have anything built in for this. For my own
project, I ended up just writing my own redirect action. It recognizes special
tokens in the url like so:
Just to let you guys know: I have completed an implementation of the wafer
project (http://waferproject.org) using webwork, and as soon as Andy gives
me access it'll be committed.
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Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, boxed wrote:
By default the value attribute is pulled from the name - which is I think
the behaviour you want.
Oh damn, you're right. I missed that. Specifying only name does seem like
the way that would be closest to the principle of least surprise when I
think about
Inline...
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On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Simon Stewart wrote:
On Monday, Nov 11, 2002, at 11:29 Europe/London, Joseph Ottinger wrote
Let's be specific: I emphastically agreed with revising the property tag,
but refrained from voting either way (abstaining!) because I'm resigning
from opensymphony as a whole. For why (in case you're not on the
opensymphony-developers list), see http://enigmastation.com/Q702 .
Okay, I apologize in advance: some people apparently are reading my own
words and they, too, are reading what's written instead of what's meant.
Irony, indeed.
Just to be clear: the wiki is NOT NOT NOT why I am resigning opensymphony.
I'm quitting opensymphony because I see myself as a relic in
A few people have suggested using a filter to handle the hibernate
session. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to see such a filter in the
source for hibernate users. Any contributors?
Callbacks are another feature that would be trivial to handle given the
views aren't terminal idea that, um,
So this is a call to document the bejeebers out of it? :)
Actually, I agree with Maurice... property should stay the way it is. It's
kludgey, it's inobvious, it should be deprecated... but not eliminated.
(IMO only, naturally.)
-
Joseph B.
You mean, JUST LIKE the linktags module in the opensymphony CVS?
Or are you looking for a solution that's distinctly part of WebWork?
-
Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://enigmastation.comIT
WebWork uses commons-logging now. This was the subject of some various
heated threads a while back.
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http://enigmastation.comIT Consultant
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, [UTF-8]
Lightbody wrote:
Only heated cuz you lit the fire ;) J/K...
Matt told me to do it, so I did. All my modules (OSCore, OSWorkflow, OSUser,
and PropertySet -- and soon Clickstream) use commons-logging now as well.
-Pat
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED
wrote:
Joseph Ottinger wrote:
WebWork uses commons-logging now. This was the subject of some various
heated threads a while back.
Ok, so then the log4j conf option should be removed, right?
/Rickard
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On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, [ISO-8859-1] Rickard Öberg wrote:
Patrick Lightbody wrote:
FWIW, from the discussions I've
I'm only one guy, but...
For one thing, it would be nice if everyone involved took a step back,
breathed deeply, and remembered that this stuff isn't all there is to
life. Relax. Smell the flowers. Sneeze.
For another... I think it's important in the context of the dispatcher
discussion to note
+1! Pat is a god! (He told me to say that so I'm blindly worshipping him.)
Actually... I still vote +1, and Pat's just another frood in
PsychoDelusionLand.
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