Re: Using GitHub Issues and Pages

[Grzegorz Grzybek]

Hello

Thanks for
https://spring.io/blog/2019/01/15/spring-framework-s-migration-from-jira-to-github-issues
!

I love JIRA. I used it since ~2002 and even replaced Mantis/Trac/ClearCase
with it in 3 of my previous companies. I don't know anything about
Atlassian-Ops4J agreement. It works for me, but I remember problems where
people asked how to create JIRA issue... Confluence itself is also nice,
but has its problems. Documentation is out of date and a bit out of touch
with existing code.

As for JIRA - I'd stay there, but that's not something I'd die for.
Confluence? I think for such projects it's much better to have
documentation as part of the project and just publish it to gh-pages.
Updating docs inside given pax-* project would be an indication of given
project's health as well.

regards
Grzegorz Grzybek

śr., 19 lut 2020 o 11:20 Oliver Lietz  napisał(a):

> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 6:16:01 AM CET Grzegorz Grzybek wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > I ... have never think about it. Maybe it is a good idea? Confluence is
> > quite good, but the content there is quite dated. JIRA is great software,
> > but it's of course subjective and lots of projects do their
> >  at GH.
>
> Sure, I like using JIRA (and Confluence) in other projects but the
> experience
> for (new) users at OPS4J is quite bad.
>
> We should at least set up a basic site at ops4j.org again and update
> content
> in Confluence or GitHub (Pages: http://ops4j.github.io/).
>
> There are several commits without JIRA issues therefore I thought about
> switching to GitHub Issues and PRs. I guess it makes managing release
> information easier.
>
> See also
> https://spring.io/blog/2019/01/15/spring-framework-s-migration-from-jira-to-github-issues
>
> Regards,
> O.
>
> > I don't know (I wasn't here at that time) what are the terms on which
> > Atlassian runs Ops4J space (jira, confluence). Would be great to read
> > feedback from others.
> >
> > regards
> > Grzegorz Grzybek
> >
> > śr., 19 lut 2020 o 00:43 Oliver Lietz  napisał(a):
> > > Hi *,
> > >
> > > How about dropping JIRA and Confluence and fully leveraging GitHub for
> > > OPS4J's
> > > projects?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > O.
> [...]
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Re: ops4j domain names

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

That's true, but I think that's also a drawback.

The leak of governance and the fact we don't have any staging on releases
could be seen as an issue.

That's why it could be interesting to have this under the "Karaf Umbrella".

Regards
JB

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 7:58 AM 'Christoph Läubrich' via OPS4J <
ops4j@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I always enjoyed the ease of contribution via github with minimal
> effort. While for apache-projects has always felt like a mess because of
> different hurdles.
>
> So I would defiantly vote for staying with github, dropping JIRA in
> favour of github issues (they improved the issue/project handling a lot)
> to centralize development to one place.
>
> Github even offers building "Actions" now so maybe this is also an
> alternative for custom build-server.
>
> Am 20.02.20 um 07:17 schrieb Jean-Baptiste Onofré:
> > Hi,
> >
> > If option 4 is interesting, we have to remember:
> >
> > 1. First, in which Apache umbrella project. I don't think Felix is a
> > good match as we might have some overlap with existing projects (felix
> > http, ...). Maybe Karaf ?
> > 2. We need to transfer IP and "PMC" set and ask in the Apache project
> > community with a formal vote.
> > 3. We will have to follow Apache process, especially for releases
> > (meaning at least 3 days vote, 3 binding votes, etc), extending Apache
> > pom, etc.
> >
> > So, IMHO, we have really two options:
> >
> > 1. We keep OPS4J community, do a cleanup (announcing non active projects)
> > 2. We move active Pax projects to Apache (obviously my preference would
> > be Karaf).
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:01 PM Toni Menzel  > > wrote:
> >
> > *TL/TR:*
> > I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org  (the one
> > that is actively used atm).
> >
> > *Long version:*
> > Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go
> > with OPS4J in general.
> >
> > It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get
> > hands dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust
> > was default. Think about it, back then everyone could get write
> > access to the subversion repo and start hacking on new or existing
> > projects. Including admin access to jira and whatever else was
> > existing back then. Pax URL, Pax Runner, Pax Exam, Pax Construct
> > etc. all got initiated by individuals without asking for permission.
> > I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles got to life.. but oh well.
> >
> > Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and
> > exam - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if
> > there is just that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no
> > website etc.
> >
> > So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that
> > come to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated
> options):
> >
> >   * keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the
> > Build Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me
> > (this means I'd be also fine to pay for the org domain that is
> > in active use,too btw). It would be good to have two different
> > companies or legal entities backing this anyway.
> >   * Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a
> > clear who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github
> > Sponsoring to spread costs across user base - avoid single
> > entity control.
> >   * Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an
> > entity that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I
> > am not sure of this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open
> > Governance.
> >   * Retire non active projects and donate active projects to apache.
> > Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property)
> >
> > wdyt?
> > Toni
> >
> >
> > *Toni Menzel | rebaze.com  | growing
> > developer culture
> >
> > *
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >  > > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Niclas
> >
> > First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing
> > ).
> >
> > I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them.
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman
> > mailto:nic...@hedhman.org>> a écrit :
> >
> > Everyone,
> > In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up
> > for renewal. And I have been paying for those for 15 years
> > now, and since I no longer participate in OPS4J I would like
> > to transfer the domain names. But where to??
> >
> >  

Re: ops4j domain names

['Christoph Läubrich' via OPS4J]

I always enjoyed the ease of contribution via github with minimal 
effort. While for apache-projects has always felt like a mess because of 
different hurdles.


So I would defiantly vote for staying with github, dropping JIRA in 
favour of github issues (they improved the issue/project handling a lot) 
to centralize development to one place.


Github even offers building "Actions" now so maybe this is also an 
alternative for custom build-server.


Am 20.02.20 um 07:17 schrieb Jean-Baptiste Onofré:

Hi,

If option 4 is interesting, we have to remember:

1. First, in which Apache umbrella project. I don't think Felix is a 
good match as we might have some overlap with existing projects (felix 
http, ...). Maybe Karaf ?
2. We need to transfer IP and "PMC" set and ask in the Apache project 
community with a formal vote.
3. We will have to follow Apache process, especially for releases 
(meaning at least 3 days vote, 3 binding votes, etc), extending Apache 
pom, etc.


So, IMHO, we have really two options:

1. We keep OPS4J community, do a cleanup (announcing non active projects)
2. We move active Pax projects to Apache (obviously my preference would 
be Karaf).


Thoughts ?

Regards
JB

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:01 PM Toni Menzel > wrote:


*TL/TR:*
I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org  (the one
that is actively used atm).

*Long version:*
Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go
with OPS4J in general.

It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get
hands dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust
was default. Think about it, back then everyone could get write
access to the subversion repo and start hacking on new or existing
projects. Including admin access to jira and whatever else was
existing back then. Pax URL, Pax Runner, Pax Exam, Pax Construct
etc. all got initiated by individuals without asking for permission.
I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles got to life.. but oh well.

Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and
exam - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if
there is just that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no
website etc.

So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that
come to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options):

  * keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the
Build Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me
(this means I'd be also fine to pay for the org domain that is
in active use,too btw). It would be good to have two different
companies or legal entities backing this anyway.
  * Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a
clear who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github
Sponsoring to spread costs across user base - avoid single
entity control.
  * Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an
entity that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I
am not sure of this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open
Governance.
  * Retire non active projects and donate active projects to apache.
Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property)

wdyt?
Toni


*Toni Menzel | rebaze.com  | growing
developer culture

*


On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré
mailto:jeanbaptiste.ono...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Niclas

First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing
).

I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them.

Thoughts ?

Regards
JB

Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman
mailto:nic...@hedhman.org>> a écrit :

Everyone,
In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up
for renewal. And I have been paying for those for 15 years
now, and since I no longer participate in OPS4J I would like
to transfer the domain names. But where to??

Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over,
otherwise to a trusted community member.

Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. I have no
opinion and will simply follow what you all can agree on.

ops4j.org 
ops4j.net 
ops4j.com 


Cheers
Niclas

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Re: ops4j domain names

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Hi,

If option 4 is interesting, we have to remember:

1. First, in which Apache umbrella project. I don't think Felix is a good
match as we might have some overlap with existing projects (felix http,
...). Maybe Karaf ?
2. We need to transfer IP and "PMC" set and ask in the Apache project
community with a formal vote.
3. We will have to follow Apache process, especially for releases (meaning
at least 3 days vote, 3 binding votes, etc), extending Apache pom, etc.

So, IMHO, we have really two options:

1. We keep OPS4J community, do a cleanup (announcing non active projects)
2. We move active Pax projects to Apache (obviously my preference would be
Karaf).

Thoughts ?

Regards
JB

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:01 PM Toni Menzel  wrote:

> *TL/TR:*
> I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org (the one that is actively used
> atm).
>
> *Long version:*
> Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go with
> OPS4J in general.
>
> It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get hands
> dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust was default.
> Think about it, back then everyone could get write access to the subversion
> repo and start hacking on new or existing projects. Including admin access
> to jira and whatever else was existing back then. Pax URL, Pax Runner, Pax
> Exam, Pax Construct etc. all got initiated by individuals without asking
> for permission. I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles got to life.. but
> oh well.
>
> Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and exam
> - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if there is just
> that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no website etc.
>
> So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that come
> to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options):
>
>- keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the Build
>Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me (this means I'd be
>also fine to pay for the org domain that is in active use,too btw). It
>would be good to have two different companies or legal entities backing
>this anyway.
>- Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a clear
>who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github Sponsoring to
>spread costs across user base - avoid single entity control.
>- Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an entity
>that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I am not sure of
>this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open Governance.
>- Retire non active projects and donate active projects to apache.
>Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property)
>
> wdyt?
> Toni
>
>
>
>
> *Toni Menzel | rebaze.com  | growing developer
> culture*
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> jeanbaptiste.ono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Niclas
>>
>> First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing ).
>>
>> I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Everyone,
>>> In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for renewal.
>>> And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since I no longer
>>> participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names. But where
>>> to??
>>>
>>> Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to a
>>> trusted community member.
>>>
>>> Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. I have no opinion and will
>>> simply follow what you all can agree on.
>>>
>>> ops4j.org
>>> ops4j.net
>>> ops4j.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Niclas
>>>
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Re: [PAX EXAM] Release 4.13.2

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Thanks for the update. I will proceed then.

Regards
JB

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:11 PM Oliver Lietz  wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 11:40:53 AM CET Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > Sure. I will.
>
> Done. PAXEXAM-934 and dependency updates (fixing HTTP issue with Maven
> Central).
>
> Please go ahead, JB.
>
> Thanks,
> O.
>
> > Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 11:23, Oliver Lietz  a
> écrit :
> > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 7:07:24 AM CET Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > I will.
> > >
> > > Let me add some dependency updates and improvements before cutting the
> > > release. Can you add version 4.13.2 to JIRA?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > O.
> > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > JB
> > > >
> > > > Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 00:35, Oliver Lietz  a
> > >
> > > écrit :
> > > > > Hi *,
> > > > >
> > > > > I need a new release of Pax Exam: 4.13.2
> > > > > Who can manage versions in JIRA?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > O.
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Re: ops4j domain names

[Oliver Lietz]

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 3:25:31 PM CET 'Achim Nierbeck' via OPS4J 
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I fully agree on Toni ...
> actually for PaxWeb it had always been an issue of not beeing an apache
> project.
> Therefore I'd go with option 4, the how-to would be needed to be worked
> out.

Really? But we already have a HTTP and Log service at Felix (and another one 
at Sling) and I guess it means a lot of paper work related to IP and 
donations.

O. 

> regards, Achim
> 
> 
> Am Mi., 19. Feb. 2020 um 13:21 Uhr schrieb Grzegorz Grzybek <
> 
> gr.grzy...@gmail.com>:
> > Hello
> > 
> > While being happy contributor of pax-logging, pax-web,
> > pax-jdbc/jms/transx, pax-url, pax-cdi, I never wonder about how it works.
> > I've never seen working https://ops4j.org site (it's now "it works!"
> > page) and I assumed Atlassian is providing us (how?) JIRA + Confluence.
> > 
> > I don't know what to suggest, except that I'll welcome any improvement ;)
> > 
> > regards
> > Grzegorz Grzybek
> > 
> > śr., 19 lut 2020 o 13:15 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> > 
> > jeanbaptiste.ono...@gmail.com> napisał(a):
> >> Hi Toni
> >> 
> >> Thanks for bringing this discussion forward.
> >> 
> >> I agree with your statements. Let me get back with comments and
> >> proposals.
> >> 
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >> 
> >> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 13:01, Toni Menzel  a
> >> 
> >> écrit :
> >>> *TL/TR:*
> >>> I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org (the one that is actively used
> >>> atm).
> >>> 
> >>> *Long version:*
> >>> Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go with
> >>> OPS4J in general.
> >>> 
> >>> It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get
> >>> hands dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust was
> >>> default. Think about it, back then everyone could get write access to
> >>> the
> >>> subversion repo and start hacking on new or existing projects. Including
> >>> admin access to jira and whatever else was existing back then. Pax URL,
> >>> Pax
> >>> Runner, Pax Exam, Pax Construct etc. all got initiated by individuals
> >>> without asking for permission. I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles
> >>> got to life.. but oh well.
> >>> 
> >>> Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and
> >>> exam - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if there is
> >>> just that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no website etc.
> >>> 
> >>> So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that come
> >>> 
> >>> to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options):
> >>>- keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the
> >>>Build Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me (this
> >>>means
> >>>I'd be also fine to pay for the org domain that is in active use,too
> >>>btw).
> >>>It would be good to have two different companies or legal entities
> >>>backing
> >>>this anyway.
> >>>- Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a clear
> >>>who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github Sponsoring
> >>>to
> >>>spread costs across user base - avoid single entity control.
> >>>- Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an
> >>>entity that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I am
> >>>not
> >>>sure of this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open Governance.
> >>>- Retire non active projects and donate active projects to apache.
> >>>Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property)
> >>> 
> >>> wdyt?
> >>> Toni
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> *Toni Menzel | rebaze.com  | growing developer
> >>> culture*
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> >>> 
> >>> jeanbaptiste.ono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Hi Niclas
>  
>  First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing ).
>  
>  I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them.
>  
>  Thoughts ?
>  
>  Regards
>  JB
>  
>  Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman  a
>  
>  écrit :
> > Everyone,
> > In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for
> > renewal. And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since
> > I no
> > longer participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names.
> > But
> > where to??
> > 
> > Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to a
> > trusted community member.
> > 
> > Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. I have no opinion and will
> > simply follow what you all can agree on.
> > 
> > ops4j.org
> > ops4j.net
> > ops4j.com
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Niclas
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Re: [PAX EXAM] Release 4.13.2

[Oliver Lietz]

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 11:40:53 AM CET Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> Sure. I will.

Done. PAXEXAM-934 and dependency updates (fixing HTTP issue with Maven 
Central).

Please go ahead, JB.

Thanks,
O.

> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 11:23, Oliver Lietz  a écrit :
> > On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 7:07:24 AM CET Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > 
> > > I will.
> > 
> > Let me add some dependency updates and improvements before cutting the
> > release. Can you add version 4.13.2 to JIRA?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > O.
> > 
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > > 
> > > Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 00:35, Oliver Lietz  a
> > 
> > écrit :
> > > > Hi *,
> > > > 
> > > > I need a new release of Pax Exam: 4.13.2
> > > > Who can manage versions in JIRA?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > O.
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Re: Maven Aether configuration

[Oliver Lietz]

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 10:52:49 PM CET Jared Whiklo wrote:
> Hi all,

Hi Jared,

> I'm relatively new to Pax-Exam stuff, but have been using it to test
> deployment of some resources in a Karaf container. This was working until
> such time as the recent switch to required SSL for maven central. So I need
> to switch out any default repositories urls from
> "http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/; to "https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/;.
> 
> Currently we are getting the error
> 
> -
> Gradle Test Run :islandora-karaf:test > Gradle Test Executor 31 >
> ca.islandora.alpaca.karaf.KarafIT > classMethod FAILED
> java.lang.RuntimeException: Problem starting container
> 
> Caused by:
> java.io.IOException: Error resolving artifact
> org.apache.karaf:apache-karaf:jar:zip:4.0.6: Could not transfer artifact
> org.apache.karaf:apache-karaf:jar:zip:4.0.6 from/to central
> (http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/): Failed to transfer file:
> http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/apache-karaf/4.0.6/apache-kar
> af-4.0.6-zip.jar. Return code is: 501 , ReasonPhrase:HTTPS Required.
> 
> Gradle Test Run :islandora-karaf:test > Gradle Test Executor 31 >
> ca.islandora.alpaca.karaf.KarafIT > executionError FAILED
> java.lang.RuntimeException: Container never came up
> 
> 
> I'm trying to set either the "org.ops4j.pax.url.mvn.repositories" or
> "org.ops4j.pax.url.mvn.settings" property. I have tried using the
> CoreOptions.systemProperty and
> CoreOptions.frameworkProperty but neither is used by the
> AetherBasedResolver class and instead it seems to fallback to...my maven
> settings?
> 
> The only thing that has worked was to add a  to my local
> ~/.m2/settings.xml for central. But this seems very user specific.
> 
> The test class can be found here
> https://github.com/Islandora/Alpaca/blob/dev/karaf/src/test/java/ca/islandor
> a/alpaca/karaf/KarafIT.java
> 
> I feel like there something obvious I am missing here, any help is
> appreciated.

No, I fixed it just yesterday for 4.x by upgrading Pax URL.
New release is outstanding.

Regards,
O.

> cheers,
> jared



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Maven Aether configuration

[Jared Whiklo]

Hi all,

I'm relatively new to Pax-Exam stuff, but have been using it to test 
deployment of some resources in a Karaf container. This was working until 
such time as the recent switch to required SSL for maven central. So I need 
to switch out any default repositories urls from 
"http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/; to "https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/;.

Currently we are getting the error

-
Gradle Test Run :islandora-karaf:test > Gradle Test Executor 31 > 
ca.islandora.alpaca.karaf.KarafIT > classMethod FAILED
java.lang.RuntimeException: Problem starting container

Caused by:
java.io.IOException: Error resolving artifact 
org.apache.karaf:apache-karaf:jar:zip:4.0.6: Could not transfer artifact 
org.apache.karaf:apache-karaf:jar:zip:4.0.6 from/to central 
(http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/): Failed to transfer file: 
http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/apache-karaf/4.0.6/apache-karaf-4.0.6-zip.jar.
 
Return code is: 501 , ReasonPhrase:HTTPS Required.

Gradle Test Run :islandora-karaf:test > Gradle Test Executor 31 > 
ca.islandora.alpaca.karaf.KarafIT > executionError FAILED
java.lang.RuntimeException: Container never came up


I'm trying to set either the "org.ops4j.pax.url.mvn.repositories" or 
"org.ops4j.pax.url.mvn.settings" 
property. I have tried using the CoreOptions.systemProperty and 
CoreOptions.frameworkProperty but neither is used by the 
AetherBasedResolver class and instead it seems to fallback to...my maven 
settings?

The only thing that has worked was to add a  to my local 
~/.m2/settings.xml for central. But this seems very user specific.

The test class can be found here
https://github.com/Islandora/Alpaca/blob/dev/karaf/src/test/java/ca/islandora/alpaca/karaf/KarafIT.java

I feel like there something obvious I am missing here, any help is 
appreciated.

cheers,
jared

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Re: ops4j domain names

['Achim Nierbeck' via OPS4J]

Hi,

I fully agree on Toni ...
actually for PaxWeb it had always been an issue of not beeing an apache
project.
Therefore I'd go with option 4, the how-to would be needed to be worked
out.

regards, Achim


Am Mi., 19. Feb. 2020 um 13:21 Uhr schrieb Grzegorz Grzybek <
gr.grzy...@gmail.com>:

> Hello
>
> While being happy contributor of pax-logging, pax-web,
> pax-jdbc/jms/transx, pax-url, pax-cdi, I never wonder about how it works.
> I've never seen working https://ops4j.org site (it's now "it works!"
> page) and I assumed Atlassian is providing us (how?) JIRA + Confluence.
>
> I don't know what to suggest, except that I'll welcome any improvement ;)
>
> regards
> Grzegorz Grzybek
>
> śr., 19 lut 2020 o 13:15 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> jeanbaptiste.ono...@gmail.com> napisał(a):
>
>> Hi Toni
>>
>> Thanks for bringing this discussion forward.
>>
>> I agree with your statements. Let me get back with comments and
>> proposals.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 13:01, Toni Menzel  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> *TL/TR:*
>>> I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org (the one that is actively used
>>> atm).
>>>
>>> *Long version:*
>>> Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go with
>>> OPS4J in general.
>>>
>>> It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get
>>> hands dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust was
>>> default. Think about it, back then everyone could get write access to the
>>> subversion repo and start hacking on new or existing projects. Including
>>> admin access to jira and whatever else was existing back then. Pax URL, Pax
>>> Runner, Pax Exam, Pax Construct etc. all got initiated by individuals
>>> without asking for permission. I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles
>>> got to life.. but oh well.
>>>
>>> Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and
>>> exam - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if there is
>>> just that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no website etc.
>>>
>>> So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that come
>>> to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options):
>>>
>>>- keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the
>>>Build Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me (this means
>>>I'd be also fine to pay for the org domain that is in active use,too 
>>> btw).
>>>It would be good to have two different companies or legal entities 
>>> backing
>>>this anyway.
>>>- Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a clear
>>>who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github Sponsoring to
>>>spread costs across user base - avoid single entity control.
>>>- Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an
>>>entity that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I am not
>>>sure of this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open Governance.
>>>- Retire non active projects and donate active projects to apache.
>>>Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property)
>>>
>>> wdyt?
>>> Toni
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Toni Menzel | rebaze.com  | growing developer
>>> culture*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>> jeanbaptiste.ono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Niclas

 First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing ).

 I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them.

 Thoughts ?

 Regards
 JB

 Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman  a
 écrit :

> Everyone,
> In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for
> renewal. And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since I no
> longer participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names. But
> where to??
>
> Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to a
> trusted community member.
>
> Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. I have no opinion and will
> simply follow what you all can agree on.
>
> ops4j.org
> ops4j.net
> ops4j.com
>
>
> Cheers
> Niclas
>
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Re: ops4j domain names

[Grzegorz Grzybek]

Hello

While being happy contributor of pax-logging, pax-web, pax-jdbc/jms/transx,
pax-url, pax-cdi, I never wonder about how it works. I've never seen
working https://ops4j.org site (it's now "it works!" page) and I assumed
Atlassian is providing us (how?) JIRA + Confluence.

I don't know what to suggest, except that I'll welcome any improvement ;)

regards
Grzegorz Grzybek

śr., 19 lut 2020 o 13:15 Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
napisał(a):

> Hi Toni
>
> Thanks for bringing this discussion forward.
>
> I agree with your statements. Let me get back with comments and proposals.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 13:01, Toni Menzel  a
> écrit :
>
>> *TL/TR:*
>> I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org (the one that is actively used
>> atm).
>>
>> *Long version:*
>> Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go with
>> OPS4J in general.
>>
>> It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get
>> hands dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust was
>> default. Think about it, back then everyone could get write access to the
>> subversion repo and start hacking on new or existing projects. Including
>> admin access to jira and whatever else was existing back then. Pax URL, Pax
>> Runner, Pax Exam, Pax Construct etc. all got initiated by individuals
>> without asking for permission. I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles
>> got to life.. but oh well.
>>
>> Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and exam
>> - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if there is just
>> that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no website etc.
>>
>> So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that come
>> to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options):
>>
>>- keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the
>>Build Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me (this means
>>I'd be also fine to pay for the org domain that is in active use,too btw).
>>It would be good to have two different companies or legal entities backing
>>this anyway.
>>- Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a clear
>>who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github Sponsoring to
>>spread costs across user base - avoid single entity control.
>>- Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an entity
>>that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I am not sure of
>>this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open Governance.
>>- Retire non active projects and donate active projects to apache.
>>Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property)
>>
>> wdyt?
>> Toni
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Toni Menzel | rebaze.com  | growing developer
>> culture*
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>> jeanbaptiste.ono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Niclas
>>>
>>> First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing ).
>>>
>>> I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them.
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
 Everyone,
 In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for renewal.
 And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since I no longer
 participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names. But where
 to??

 Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to a
 trusted community member.

 Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. I have no opinion and will
 simply follow what you all can agree on.

 ops4j.org
 ops4j.net
 ops4j.com


 Cheers
 Niclas

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Re: ops4j domain names

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Hi Toni

Thanks for bringing this discussion forward.

I agree with your statements. Let me get back with comments and proposals.

Regards
JB

Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 13:01, Toni Menzel  a
écrit :

> *TL/TR:*
> I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org (the one that is actively used
> atm).
>
> *Long version:*
> Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go with
> OPS4J in general.
>
> It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get hands
> dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust was default.
> Think about it, back then everyone could get write access to the subversion
> repo and start hacking on new or existing projects. Including admin access
> to jira and whatever else was existing back then. Pax URL, Pax Runner, Pax
> Exam, Pax Construct etc. all got initiated by individuals without asking
> for permission. I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles got to life.. but
> oh well.
>
> Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and exam
> - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if there is just
> that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no website etc.
>
> So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that come
> to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options):
>
>- keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the Build
>Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me (this means I'd be
>also fine to pay for the org domain that is in active use,too btw). It
>would be good to have two different companies or legal entities backing
>this anyway.
>- Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a clear
>who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github Sponsoring to
>spread costs across user base - avoid single entity control.
>- Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an entity
>that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I am not sure of
>this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open Governance.
>- Retire non active projects and donate active projects to apache.
>Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property)
>
> wdyt?
> Toni
>
>
>
>
> *Toni Menzel | rebaze.com  | growing developer
> culture*
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> jeanbaptiste.ono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Niclas
>>
>> First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing ).
>>
>> I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Everyone,
>>> In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for renewal.
>>> And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since I no longer
>>> participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names. But where
>>> to??
>>>
>>> Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to a
>>> trusted community member.
>>>
>>> Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. I have no opinion and will
>>> simply follow what you all can agree on.
>>>
>>> ops4j.org
>>> ops4j.net
>>> ops4j.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Niclas
>>>
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Re: ops4j domain names

[Toni Menzel]

*TL/TR:*
I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org (the one that is actively used atm).

*Long version:*
Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go with
OPS4J in general.

It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get hands
dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust was default.
Think about it, back then everyone could get write access to the subversion
repo and start hacking on new or existing projects. Including admin access
to jira and whatever else was existing back then. Pax URL, Pax Runner, Pax
Exam, Pax Construct etc. all got initiated by individuals without asking
for permission. I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles got to life.. but
oh well.

Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and exam -
a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if there is just that
"ops4j" name of the github organization now, no website etc.

So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that come to
my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options):

   - keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the Build
   Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me (this means I'd be
   also fine to pay for the org domain that is in active use,too btw). It
   would be good to have two different companies or legal entities backing
   this anyway.
   - Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a clear who
   is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github Sponsoring to spread
   costs across user base - avoid single entity control.
   - Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an entity
   that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I am not sure of
   this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open Governance.
   - Retire non active projects and donate active projects to apache.
   Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property)

wdyt?
Toni




*Toni Menzel | rebaze.com  | growing developer
culture*


On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
jeanbaptiste.ono...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Niclas
>
> First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing ).
>
> I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman  a
> écrit :
>
>> Everyone,
>> In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for renewal.
>> And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since I no longer
>> participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names. But where
>> to??
>>
>> Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to a
>> trusted community member.
>>
>> Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. I have no opinion and will
>> simply follow what you all can agree on.
>>
>> ops4j.org
>> ops4j.net
>> ops4j.com
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Niclas
>>
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Re: ops4j domain names

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Hi Niclas

First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing ).

I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them.

Thoughts ?

Regards
JB

Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman  a écrit :

> Everyone,
> In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for renewal.
> And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since I no longer
> participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names. But where
> to??
>
> Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to a
> trusted community member.
>
> Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. I have no opinion and will
> simply follow what you all can agree on.
>
> ops4j.org
> ops4j.net
> ops4j.com
>
>
> Cheers
> Niclas
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ops4j domain names

[Niclas Hedhman]

Everyone,
In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for renewal. And
I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since I no longer
participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names. But where
to??

Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to a
trusted community member.

Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. I have no opinion and will
simply follow what you all can agree on.

ops4j.org
ops4j.net
ops4j.com


Cheers
Niclas

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Re: [PAX EXAM] Release 4.13.2

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Sure. I will.

Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 11:23, Oliver Lietz  a écrit :

> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 7:07:24 AM CET Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I will.
>
> Let me add some dependency updates and improvements before cutting the
> release. Can you add version 4.13.2 to JIRA?
>
> Thanks,
> O.
>
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 00:35, Oliver Lietz  a
> écrit :
> > > Hi *,
> > >
> > > I need a new release of Pax Exam: 4.13.2
> > > Who can manage versions in JIRA?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > O.
> [...]
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Re: [PAX EXAM] Release 4.13.2

[Oliver Lietz]

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 7:07:24 AM CET Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I will.

Let me add some dependency updates and improvements before cutting the 
release. Can you add version 4.13.2 to JIRA?

Thanks,
O.

> Regards
> JB
> 
> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 00:35, Oliver Lietz  a écrit :
> > Hi *,
> > 
> > I need a new release of Pax Exam: 4.13.2
> > Who can manage versions in JIRA?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > O.
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Re: Using GitHub Issues and Pages

[Oliver Lietz]

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 6:16:01 AM CET Grzegorz Grzybek wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I ... have never think about it. Maybe it is a good idea? Confluence is
> quite good, but the content there is quite dated. JIRA is great software,
> but it's of course subjective and lots of projects do their
>  at GH.

Sure, I like using JIRA (and Confluence) in other projects but the experience 
for (new) users at OPS4J is quite bad.

We should at least set up a basic site at ops4j.org again and update content 
in Confluence or GitHub (Pages: http://ops4j.github.io/).

There are several commits without JIRA issues therefore I thought about 
switching to GitHub Issues and PRs. I guess it makes managing release 
information easier.

See also 
https://spring.io/blog/2019/01/15/spring-framework-s-migration-from-jira-to-github-issues

Regards,
O.

> I don't know (I wasn't here at that time) what are the terms on which
> Atlassian runs Ops4J space (jira, confluence). Would be great to read
> feedback from others.
> 
> regards
> Grzegorz Grzybek
> 
> śr., 19 lut 2020 o 00:43 Oliver Lietz  napisał(a):
> > Hi *,
> > 
> > How about dropping JIRA and Confluence and fully leveraging GitHub for
> > OPS4J's
> > projects?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > O.
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