Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2019-02-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 09:20 JeCh Just check https://www.waze.com/cs/livemap and you can see how wrong you > are. The traffic information is available almost everywhere, if you have a > good mobile connection. > This makes it unusable in most of the Americas, even in the US. > -- You received

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2019-02-14 Thread JeCh
Dne čtvrtek 14. února 2019 15:50:27 UTC+1 Paul Johnson napsal(a): > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 03:45 JeCh > wrote: > >> Osmand is perfect for bike and walking, can serve also in a car for very >> short distances. But it doesn't make much sense to use it as a regular car >> navigation. There

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2019-02-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 03:45 JeCh Osmand is perfect for bike and walking, can serve also in a car for very > short distances. But it doesn't make much sense to use it as a regular car > navigation. There are much better navigation apps. > I dunno about better. Certainly faster. But it is

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2019-02-14 Thread Klaus Lichtenwalder
Am 14.02.19 um 15:03 schrieb 'Xavier' via Osmand: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 01:45:35AM -0800, JeCh wrote: >> If you need an offline navigation, the best free option is Mapfactor >> Navigator. > > FWIW, I looked at it on the GPlay store.  The listing also includes this > text: "Contains ads". > >

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2019-02-14 Thread 'Xavier' via Osmand
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 01:45:35AM -0800, JeCh wrote: If you need an offline navigation, the best free option is Mapfactor Navigator. FWIW, I looked at it on the GPlay store. The listing also includes this text: "Contains ads". For me, at least, that is a huge "I will not touch it" red

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2019-02-14 Thread JeCh
Osmand is perfect for bike and walking, can serve also in a car for very short distances. But it doesn't make much sense to use it as a regular car navigation. There are much better navigation apps. If you can use data, there is nothing better then Waze. It doesn't make sense to think about

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2019-01-28 Thread Majka
It depends on where you are and how active the local community is. Locally, you can usually find new streets and addresses in OSM (and in OsmAnd) first. On Saturday, 26 January 2019 15:00:20 UTC+1, Tom Norton wrote: > > OP here. Yep I have to agree about addresses. It seems like we can only >

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2019-01-26 Thread onthewallaby
I wouldn't give up my Garmin Nuvi. Information is more accurate, substantially quicker to use to find an address. Address information in Garmin is generally spot-on, same cannot be said for Openstreet mapping. Garmin speed alerts are so useful if you miss a speed sign, or in case you are

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2019-01-22 Thread 'P Wat' via Osmand
IMHO:- 1. For off-road (Walking/River/etc), or for on-road cycling, or for driving in rural areas where traffic is not a factor, OsmAnd absolutely wins hands down every time. Why? - (a) Map detail, (b) map currency, (c) works offline, (d) uses less battery, (e) more customisable

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2019-01-15 Thread 'Xavier' via Osmand
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 08:59:53AM -0800, Leo wrote: 1, changing lanes, AndOSM+ has sort of lane directions, but not accurate, not prompt This can also be due to lack of detail in the OpenStreetMap data for the particular road. And, if that is the case, you can add the data to OpenStreetMap

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2019-01-15 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
You must mean OSMAnd+, not AndOSM+ .. :-) OSMAnd navigation is designed as offline navigation and cannot be in real-time aspects fairly compared to online navigations with realtime features, like Google maps or Waze. Even its 3rd party online routing services do not provide real time

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2019-01-15 Thread Leo
Have AndOSM+ / iGo + Here maps / Oruxmap in US, installed in the same Andoid phone For car navigation, AndOSM+ has improved a lot, seems to be very promising. I guess it'll take 1-2 years to catch iGo. 1, changing lanes, AndOSM+ has sort of lane directions, but not accurate, not prompt iGo and

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-12-11 Thread Jack Burke
Strange...my last response got deleted somehow. Anyway, in routing.xml, I find these entries: select value="$maxspeed:practical" t="maxspeed:practical" select value="$maxspeed:advisory" t="maxspeed:advisory" select value="$maxspeed" t="maxspeed" I interpret those to mean that maxspeed:practical

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-12-11 Thread Jack Burke
It's been several months since I last looked at the routing.xml file, but as I recall, it appeared to recognize maxspeed:advisory=* and maxspeed:advised=* if and only if maxspeed=* was absent. IIRC, it also recognized maxsped:practical=* but I don't recall if that was only in the absence of

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-12-08 Thread Jack Burke
For some reason, my replies to this thread are being deleted In routing.xml, I see maxspeed:practical, maxspeed:advisory, and maxspeed. My take is that OsmAnd uses them in that order, with the later ones taking precedence over an earlier one. jack -- You received this message because

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-12-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Paul Johnson writes: > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 09:27 Greg Troxel >> Paul Johnson writes: >> >> I see maxspeed:typical as being for the flow of mixed traffic that is >> being reasonable. > > Not sure this is a tag we even need in this case, since it can be inferred > automatically from the GPX

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-12-07 Thread Greg Troxel
"'Xavier' via Osmand" writes: > On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 10:01:15AM -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: >>Then there is maxspeed:typical. > > The OSM wiki has no reference for maxspeed:typical. It does have > maxspeed:practical > (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed:practical). Perhaps >

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-12-07 Thread 'Xavier' via Osmand
On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 10:01:15AM -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: Jack Burke writes: OsmAnd does use maxspeed:advisory when just plain maxspeed=* is absent. Has used it for a while now. But what about when both are present? In the US, we have the situation where on ramps (link roads, slip

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-12-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Paul Johnson writes: > Seems like for route planning, the safe bet would be worst case scenario, > lowest speed of the three possible maxspeed values. For example, a > mountain road that (mostly motorcycle) traffic typically whips through > curves at 70-90 km/h in a 110 km/h zone and have

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-12-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Seems like for route planning, the safe bet would be worst case scenario, lowest speed of the three possible maxspeed values. For example, a mountain road that (mostly motorcycle) traffic typically whips through curves at 70-90 km/h in a 110 km/h zone and have advisories (which are set assuming

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-12-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Jack Burke writes: > OsmAnd does use maxspeed:advisory when just plain maxspeed=* is > absent. Has used it for a while now. But what about when both are present? In the US, we have the situation where on ramps (link roads, slip roads) the regulatory white sign will be the one from the highway

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-12-07 Thread Jack Burke
OsmAnd does use maxspeed:advisory when just plain maxspeed=* is absent. Has used it for a while now. -jack -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-11-26 Thread km146805
I was a hold out for quite a while. Finally got a smart phone last year. One of the first apps I fell in love with is OsmAnd 2.8.2. The app is now up to 3.2.6. And lately I've experimented with Cruiser 1.4.30. Cruiser is interesting in that it answers the question of how simple can an app be and

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-11-21 Thread Greg Troxel
> offlist since this is getting to nits. Sorry; the list appears to be seriously misconfigured :-( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-11-21 Thread Greg Troxel
"'Xavier' via Osmand" writes: >> But, my point is that for a motorway_link, for routing purposes, it >> is not reasonable to assume 65 mph as the speed. 30 mph is a far >> better assumption in terms of causing the chosen routes to be sane. > > Agreed. Doing nothing more than using maxspeed/2

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-11-21 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
Are eventual extra Garmin features never used ? Is the way OSMand works preferred to Garmin one ? If both answers are yes for you then the answer to your question for yourself can be yes. The answer depends on personal preferences. I guess the word totally is overused these days and its

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-11-20 Thread 'Xavier' via Osmand
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 06:49:01PM -0800, A Thompson wrote: I can compare OsmAnd with TomTom (not Garmin) and lots of Android apps. In the UK I still need TomTom because it gives very good guidance on what lane to be in when you're in an unfamiliar place. It's not OsmAnd's problem:

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-11-20 Thread A Thompson
I can compare OsmAnd with TomTom (not Garmin) and lots of Android apps. In the UK I still need TomTom because it gives very good guidance on what lane to be in when you're in an unfamiliar place. It's not OsmAnd's problem: OpenStreetMap mappers for many UK places haven't described the lanes in

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-11-20 Thread 'Xavier' via Osmand
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 06:01:21PM -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: "'Xavier' via Osmand" writes: On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 04:59:42PM -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: Relative to a Nuvi, negatives for OSMand are: - some goofy routing, due to wrong assumptions in osmand about how long things take.

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-11-20 Thread Greg Troxel
"'Xavier' via Osmand" writes: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 04:59:42PM -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: >>Relative to a Nuvi, negatives for OSMand are: >> >> - some goofy routing, due to wrong assumptions in osmand about how >>long things take. Specifically: >> >>* some issues where _link roads

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-11-20 Thread 'Xavier' via Osmand
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 04:59:42PM -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: Relative to a Nuvi, negatives for OSMand are: - some goofy routing, due to wrong assumptions in osmand about how long things take. Specifically: * some issues where _link roads without an explicit speed get treated at

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-11-20 Thread Greg Troxel
I used to use a low-end Nuvi in the car, and have switched to using osmand, even though I still have the nuvi (with osm via mkgmap) someplace. Relative to a Nuvi, negatives for OSMand are: - no way to get traffic data (or if so I don't understand how) - some goofy routing, due to wrong

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-11-20 Thread CP
Op 20-11-18 om 21:41 schreef Tom Norton: I guess the Subject says it all! Just wondering. Absolutely. The power and flexibility of OsmAnd are awesome and unchallenged. From ergonomic point of view, strictly for car use only, I'd prefer a "Go Home" button. Now you have to dig into your

Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-11-20 Thread Tom Norton
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