Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-26 Thread Tony Wright
The problem is, it's still very much a niche player. It won't get serious look in in the enterprise predominantly because of that. That's not to say it isn't an excellent choice. To become a dominant player, you have start somewhere. That somewhere is really getting traction in the startup market.

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-26 Thread Tony Wright
I added your comment about the quirky syntax to my article. I also added a section about hot module replacement. I believe the experience with JavaScript Services is pretty good with Aurelia, which it still provides support for up on github (they have Aurelia, Vue and Knockout on a separate

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-24 Thread David Gardiner
A quick check of https://github.com/aurelia/framework/commits/master shows that it is very much alive and well and Rob is still active there. Also, interesting to note that Aurelia does work with ASP.NET Core. True, it isn't currently one of the 'out of the box' templates like Angular or React

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-24 Thread Tony Wright
I agree with you Corneliu the angular 2 syntax makes you go "what the hell were they thinking!" especially given that angular 1 was far easier, far more intuitive to use. But you do get used to it. Perhaps Rob Eisenberg is doing something awesome for Microsoft and we'll see some magic there. If

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-24 Thread DotNet Dude
I must say I agree. I don't know a better alternative but working in JS land or even TS still feels dirty. This can't be the way it will stay. On Thursday, 24 August 2017, Greg Keogh wrote: > Reading the jargon in this short thread so far still fills me with dread > and fear.

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-24 Thread Tom Rutter
Totally agree. First Angular2 and then React almost turned me off Web dev altogether but Aurelia gave me hope... not so sure now that Aurelia doesn't look like is getting much love to keep it alive. On Thursday, 24 August 2017, Corneliu I. Tusnea wrote: > I'm one of the

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-24 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
I'm one of the lovers of Aurelia (and I know Wal also on this list uses Aurelia). For me Aurelia is has one of the best designs possible. Clean and easy to use. Everything is simply obvious. With Aurelia I never had to think "how do you do this or that". It's all simple and natural. DI is

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-24 Thread Tony Wright
Haha nice. I'm so glad I don't have to use pure javascript. Typescript is my client language of choice. The reality is that you can shift a fair bit of workload from the server to the browser by utilising javascript frameworks, and at the same time get a much more responsive, rich, snappy web

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-24 Thread Greg Keogh
Reading the jargon in this short thread so far still fills me with dread and fear. I think people who are using (and writing) JS frameworks are to close to their subject to see the bigger picture of what's happening. From a historical, technical and creative perspective, the whole JS ecosystem is

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-24 Thread Tom Rutter
Yep I resisted for a long time and stayed with winforms lol but am now forced to look at this stuff. On Thursday, 24 August 2017, Tony Wright wrote: > After doing all the research I chose angular for my current enterprise > application. I had to choose a technology that

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-24 Thread Tony Wright
After doing all the research I chose angular for my current enterprise application. I had to choose a technology that could withstand an assault from people who are still in a circa 2000 mindset. It's non trivial but will do everything I need it to. There's so much to learn just to get going on

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-24 Thread Tom Rutter
Yep I did notice that in the core 2.0 update. Angular 2/4 never really felt right to me. Aurelia felt much better. I'll have to take a look at Vue now. On Thursday, 24 August 2017, Tony Wright wrote: > Interestingly, dot net core 2.0, which was released a couple of weeks

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-24 Thread Tom Rutter
Thanks Tony. I will have a look. I tried React and can't believe anyone would ever bother with it - absolutely atrocious compared to Aurelia! On Thursday, 24 August 2017, Tony Wright wrote: > Hi Tom, > > It doesn't appear to have achieved the take up necessary to make it in

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-24 Thread Greg Keogh
> > https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/which-javascript-framework-should-i-choose- > enterprise-tony-wright > Nice summary, but it seems to confirm my fears that the JS ecosystem is still devolving into more fragments. I mean, oh lord, not another one ... Vue.js -- *GK*

Re: [OT] Aurelia use

2017-08-24 Thread Tony Wright
Hi Tom, It doesn't appear to have achieved the take up necessary to make it in the enterprise. Also, Rob Eisner has gone and joined Microsoft and doesnt appear to have done much with it since. The three biggest players are now Vue, react and angular. I wrote an article on this which you can