Re: [PAYCO] Elections

2014-04-27 Thread mphirim
Good Evening Ma Afrika The PAC have lot of angry people who are in a comfort Zone whether the party disappear because of all forces Internal or External. There are those who sacrifice daily funding its activities to keep it alive and be seen to be a force to reckon with. It is not by Defaul

Re: [PAYCO] Elections

2014-04-27 Thread matome
Comrades, I am quite certain there will come a time, hopefully soon, when we in the party can exercise our minds a little more and deeper. It would be interesting for instance to read and place ourselves beyond the structure of elections as currently defined and pre-defined. Just to pick the sm

Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally

2014-04-26 Thread mphirim
uduzi Sibeko Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 18:18:23 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally Cde Pinkie It is very disturbing that for the first time in 20 years of competitive elections tha

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally

2014-04-26 Thread Mduduzi Sibeko
...@webmail.com; wandisile gajana; Tongogara Ndima Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally Comrades I agree with Cde Mohlomphegi. Let us for once put the PAC above all other interests. After the elections, let's focus on building branches and build the party from

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally

2014-04-26 Thread Pinkie Monyane
a; khoi.so...@gmail.com; kgothatso > sithole; Lindo Thando; Metja Ledwaba; MXOLISI MAISELA; Nkosinathi Mngoma; > Madosky Obama; pasma.gaut...@gmail.com; Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi; Tume > Molomo; tumelo tele; Mofihli Likotsi; Vusi .Mahlangu; Vusumuzi Silaule; > Xola Tyamzashe; zun...@tut.ac

Re: [PAYCO] Invitation to a PAC Gauteng Election Conference

2014-04-26 Thread Tongogara Ndima
M'Afrika ka' Ntando As an election manager you should find this highly embarrassing and bordering on incompetency, it is ten days before national elections but PAC Branches in majority of Gauteng and Mpumalangahave no elections posters and information. Are you serving PAC or Mopethi-Moloto facti

Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally

2014-04-26 Thread Tongogara Ndima
M'Afrika Digashu Stop embarrassing PAC, you guys know that Narius Moloto cannot talk and has little political grounding, if students will be allowed to engage him and demand clarity then PAC will be embarrassed once more. Both Mopethi and Moloto dismally failed to unpack positions of PAC at both J

RE: [PAYCO] Muendane

2014-04-08 Thread Nkrumah Kgagudi
Leadership is a reflection of its organisation and to some extent including membership! -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of July Mamogobo Sent: 08 April 2014 05:27 AM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Muendane Shame

Re: [PAYCO] Muendane

2014-04-08 Thread July Mamogobo
Shame muendane shame..when was he elected as a PAC deputy president and at wich congress? On 4/7/14, mmbarahk wrote: > I am sorry to put it bluntly but Muendane is a hungry old man who just want > to go to parliament. He is no longer one with the cause for which the PAC > was founded. Unfortu

Re: [PAYCO] Muendane

2014-04-07 Thread mmbarahk
I am sorry to put it bluntly but Muendane is a hungry old man who just want to go to parliament. He is no longer one with the cause for which the PAC was founded. Unfortunately there are many apologists who share Muendane's kind of liberalism. Sent from Samsung tabletLinda Ndebele wrote: I ag

Re: [PAYCO] Muendane

2014-04-07 Thread Linda Ndebele
I agree wholeheartedly, we should never be apologetic or try to be moderate where the land question is concerned. The very basis of our struggle for liberation was on reclaiming our land at any cost. We can't betray the mandate given to us by our ancestors and posterity just to sound reasonable

Re: [PAYCO] PAC election Flyers

2014-03-28 Thread Bongani Keith
Cadre Vusi is it you crafted the PAC message for the PAC? This is a simple message that the PAC is pushing since there Africanist are the proponents and exponents of LAND issue in Azania. On Friday, March 28, 2014, vusie wrote: > > > > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 > > -- > This messa

Re: [PAYCO] KZN - PAC election Flyers

2014-03-28 Thread Cape
Thanks Nobleson, by posting the manifesto from KZN, it is one of the best manifesto that I ever come across with it. How so wish other provinces can follow suit. Nam ndiyayazi ukubabathini ngaphandle kwamathandabuzo. Ndiyazingca ngo lwimi lethu Ma-Afrika. Izwe-Lethu __

Re: [PAYCO] FORMER PASO-PASMA REUNION

2014-03-24 Thread mma...@webmail.co.za
The overriding principle agreed was to set the reunion as a launch pad for interaction amongst all of us and a remobilisation of all former PASO/PASMA comrades into the mainstream agenda of Pan Africanism and the cause for justice in general. We agreed to have this as the overriding thrust to

Re: [PAYCO] RE: PAC Registration

2014-03-17 Thread Zukisa Mxesibe
Is it only me who doesn't see or find any attachment? Izwe lethu On 16/03/2014, Malinge wrote: > Izwe lethu > Thank you about this message . > From : moafrika malinge plaatjie > > > -Original Message- > From: "Admin @ Pac" > Sent: 2014-03-14 12:18 > To: "i...@bataufc.com" ; "'Michael M

Re: [PAYCO] The Role of PASMA in Student Governance

2014-03-10 Thread 1masande
how many speakers will address? Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

Re: [PAYCO] EFF/PAC DECLARATION and COALITION FOR DEMOCRACY DEALS

2014-02-13 Thread Chargein Mabaso
embers are > informed through the media about internal party matters/affairs! > > What's Your Views About An Urgent Johannesburg Regional Meeting? And > Branches and members outside Johannesburg Region are welcome to enhance > discussions! > > Izwe lethu-Open Palm Salute > >

Re: [PAYCO] EFF/PAC DECLARATION and COALITION FOR DEMOCRACY DEALS

2014-02-13 Thread SIMPHIWE LOBI
How compatible is the Declaration and Coalition for Democracy >> Agreements in relation with the Party's Constitution and Disciplinary Code >> such as "It should be the duty of each and every member to strive to >> convert people to the ideas of the P.A.C. and in

Re: [PAYCO] EFF/PAC DECLARATION and COALITION FOR DEMOCRACY DEALS

2014-02-12 Thread Chargein Mabaso
into the movement. > > *6. **Way forward* > > > > > Nothing About Us Without Us! Recently PAC branches and members are > informed through the media about internal party matters/affairs! > > What's Your Views About An Urgent Johannesburg Regional Meeting? And &g

Re: [PAYCO] Good lesson

2014-02-11 Thread Mawethu Sidzamba
@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mawethu Sidzamba Sent: 11 February 2014 03:41 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Good lesson   All  I have to say about an orgy of mergers displayed by the two feuding PAC factions is a SePedi dictum which goes " A pri

RE: [PAYCO] Good lesson

2014-02-11 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
:41 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Good lesson All I have to say about an orgy of mergers displayed by the two feuding PAC factions is a SePedi dictum which goes " A pride of uncooperative lions will fail to bring down a limping Buffalo!" There is nothing worth cele

Re: [PAYCO] Good lesson

2014-02-11 Thread Mawethu Sidzamba
All  I have to say about an orgy of mergers displayed by the two feuding PAC factions is a SePedi dictum which goes " A pride of uncooperative lions will fail to bring down a limping Buffalo!" There is nothing worth celebrating in the PAC leadership which hastens to merge with other organisation

Re: [PAYCO] UNISA POSTER 2014 C1.jpg

2014-01-28 Thread tembelani xundu
@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:01:39 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] UNISA POSTER 2014 C1.jpg Greetings Cde TT and other UNISA students, I am summoned to a meeting at UNISA later today by Branch leadership for assistance regarding these ongoing elections. I will

Re: [PAYCO] UNISA POSTER 2014 C1.jpg

2014-01-28 Thread Xola
T > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > -Original Message- > From: tembelani xundu > Sender: payco@googlegroups.com > Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 20:46:28 > To: payco@googlegroups.com > Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [PAYC

Re: [PAYCO] UNISA POSTER 2014 C1.jpg

2014-01-28 Thread Vusi Mahlangu
rry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > -Original Message- > From: tembelani xundu > Sender: payco@googlegroups.com > Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 20:46:28 > To: payco@googlegroups.com > Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [PAYCO] UNISA POSTER 2014 C1.jp

Re: [PAYCO] UNISA POSTER 2014 C1.jpg

2014-01-27 Thread tembelani xundu
 Ye Poqo uzukhe uncede man keep me up to speed because ndisi student eUNISA for some time and yet I have never exercised my right to vote PASMA to the SRC office. Ndiye ndithi ndiqabuka ndifumane sele ielections zidlulile. I have been sent some sms by UNISA concerning SRC elections but need to t

RE: [PAYCO] 8th Pan African Congress

2014-01-17 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
challenging us as this generation to discover our mission for our African Continent, and then fulfil it, and not betray it. By Dr. Motsoko Pheko This speech was delivered on 15 January 2014 at the 8th Pan African Congress in Johannesburg, 'South Africa' (Azania). -Original Message-

Re: [PAYCO] 8th Pan African Congress

2014-01-14 Thread Xola
: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] 8th Pan African Congress @XGT can you or any other Force confirm the sad news doing rounds that u France"Phokojoe" Kobe has passed on. Sent from my iPhone On 14 Jan 2014, at 18:29, "Xola" wrote:

Re: [PAYCO] 8th Pan African Congress

2014-01-14 Thread baliwinile
- let your email find you! > > -Original Message- > From: "Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi" > Sender: payco@googlegroups.com > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:07:14 > To: > Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [PAYCO] 8th Pan African Congress > > The

Re: [PAYCO] 8th Pan African Congress

2014-01-14 Thread Xola
Much appreciated sons and daughters of Africa Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: "Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi" Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:07:14 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [

RE: [PAYCO] 8th Pan African Congress

2014-01-14 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
The venue is at Wits Research Hub and Langauge Lab on Empire Road just opposite University of Witwatersrand Planetarium opposite the Wits FC Soccer Stadium Regards Nkrumah -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Xola Sent: 14 January

Re: [PAYCO] 8th Pan African Congress

2014-01-14 Thread Xola
Thanks ABK...there's no address on the site Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: baliwin...@yahoo.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 15:18:04 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subjec

Re: [PAYCO] 8th Pan African Congress

2014-01-14 Thread Xola
Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] 8th Pan African Congress Wits university Regards, Narius Moloto General Secretary BCAWU Tel: 011 333 0881 Fax: 086 520 0413 E-mail: g...@bcawu.co.za -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com]

RE: [PAYCO] 8th Pan African Congress

2014-01-14 Thread Narius Moloto
Wits university Regards, Narius Moloto General Secretary BCAWU Tel: 011 333 0881 Fax: 086 520 0413 E-mail: g...@bcawu.co.za -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Xola Sent: 14 January 2014 03:12 PM To: PAYCO Subject: [PAYCO]

Re: [PAYCO] 8th Pan African Congress

2014-01-14 Thread baliwinile
Get to www.8thpac.co.za Sent from my iPhone On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:12, "Xola" wrote: > Sons and daughters of Africa > > Anyone with the exact venue (address/campus) of the above mentioned event? > > Regards > > XT > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > -- > --

Re: [PAYCO]

2013-12-16 Thread Vusi8 .
liberation struggle, > armed struggle was construed as terrorism, but rebels throughout the Middle > East get the support from the West. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf > Of *Ja

RE: [PAYCO]

2013-12-13 Thread Mduduzi Sibeko
06:14 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Cde Sibeko I should say that I understand and agree with the sentiment not to make an outburst and miscalculated statement on Nelson Mandela during the mourning period when the glare and attention of the nation and the rest of the world

RE: [PAYCO]

2013-12-09 Thread Jaki Seroke
Cde Sibeko I should say that I understand and agree with the sentiment not to make an outburst and miscalculated statement on Nelson Mandela during the mourning period when the glare and attention of the nation and the rest of the world is concerned about his passing. But I am a disciplined Afr

Re: [PAYCO] Leaderless

2013-12-04 Thread Bongani Keith
Workers are been taken for a ride where NUM agreed to 13% wage increase in a mean while BCAWU accept meagre wage offer on the table that is madness absurdity of the highest order. This betrayal can't continue for long BCAWU one man union must cease to fight for workers since it does the opposite de

Re: [PAYCO]

2013-12-03 Thread Fikiswa Ntshwanti
ember 2013 11:36 AM > *To:* payco > *Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] > > > > MÁfrika Sibeko, ndiyaxolisa ukuphendula ungathethi nam. You have raised > very vaild points and I just want to add that PAC also lacks visible( > except in this google group) members. Tshwane ward 60 was vi

RE: [PAYCO]

2013-12-03 Thread Mduduzi Sibeko
respond. Anyway, it is a platform for all comrades to discus maters. From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fikiswa Ntshwanti Sent: 03 December 2013 11:36 AM To: payco Subject: Re: [PAYCO] MÁfrika Sibeko, ndiyaxolisa ukuphendula ungathethi nam. You have raised

Re: [PAYCO]

2013-12-03 Thread mma...@webmail.co.za
Cde Mdu, I am sure that our Leader, Cde Seroke, will come through with some meaningful response to your enquiry. While we await his educated pen and thoughts, I thought of saying one or two small things which in time may contribute to the bigger issue you have put forth. While the role of co

Re: [PAYCO]

2013-12-03 Thread Fikiswa Ntshwanti
MÁfrika Sibeko, ndiyaxolisa ukuphendula ungathethi nam. You have raised very vaild points and I just want to add that PAC also lacks visible( except in this google group) members. Tshwane ward 60 was visited Soweto(not any branch, we were just touring) last Saturday and some of us were wearing our

Re: [PAYCO] 5th - 8th December/ 2013 Summer Political School

2013-11-20 Thread BabaBuntu
.@pac.org.za; Ikey Isaacs; > oscarfelit...@gmail.com; Gordon MPinie; sibekowill...@yahoo.com; Vusi8 .; > rakwe...@yahoo.com; Xola Tyamzashe; Jabu Makhanya; yolisamazo...@gmail.com > ; > rmse...@gmail.com; ad...@pac.org.za; vakele mkandawire; Mzwandile > Montjane; > Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi;

RE: [PAYCO] 5th - 8th December/ 2013 Summer Political School

2013-11-20 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
o.com; Vusi8 .; rakwe...@yahoo.com; Xola Tyamzashe; Jabu Makhanya; yolisamazo...@gmail.com; rmse...@gmail.com; ad...@pac.org.za; vakele mkandawire; Mzwandile Montjane; Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi; dumisani...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] 5th - 8th December/ 2013 Summer Political School Greetings Ma-A

Re: [PAYCO] 5th - 8th December/ 2013 Summer Political School

2013-11-20 Thread Bongani Keith
Greetings Ma-Afrika this is a good initiative which I see it growing with time. I want to suggest that how about your sessions be also be captured on a video to reach many who won't be able to come but will be able to purchase your video dvd! Yours in pursue of a socialist state On 11/20/13, Nkrum

Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO

2013-11-16 Thread Sbusiso Xaba
tem across the African Continent > > > > The sooner these basic questions are clarified, such will assist further > deliberations. > > > > Shango lashu > > Nkrumah > > > > *From:* payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf > Of *

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO

2013-11-15 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
, such will assist further deliberations. Shango lashu Nkrumah From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fikiswa Ntshwanti Sent: 15 November 2013 10:49 AM To: payco Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO Dear MÁfrika Nkrumah

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO

2013-11-15 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades The steps taken by the Tshwane region to draft and submit for open discussion a PAC national manifesto for the 2014 general elections is for me a welcome move and should be encouraged and supported. There is nothing in our liberation movement that says initiatives like this shoul

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO

2013-11-15 Thread Jaki Seroke
Comrades The steps taken by the Tshwane region to draft and submit for open discussion a PAC national manifesto for the 2014 general elections is for me a welcome move and should be encouraged and supported. There is nothing in our liberation movement that says initiatives like this shoul

Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO

2013-11-15 Thread Fikiswa Ntshwanti
Dear MÁfrika Nkrumah Thanks for taking time to read our draft manifesto(it's our draft , you included as the member of the organisation) and raising valid points . The aim of circulating it, is for every member of the organisation to give suggestions on what they would like to see in it. Your feed

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: [PAC Tshwane] Fwd: Draft MANIFESTO

2013-11-14 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
M'Afrika Fekiswa Kindly clarify the following points (below mentioned) since your draft manifesto is silent on the basic party positions such as: .Land repossession with compensation and restitution to resolve the historical land repossession and further linked to a socialist politi

RE: [PAYCO]

2013-11-12 Thread Jaki Seroke
Twenty years is a pretty long time, and any serious organisation would have made significant steps forward in the same period. This is clearly an indictment on the wrong methods we apply to advance the objectives of the PAC in this period. It also means the opponents of revolutionary Pan Afric

RE: [PAYCO]

2013-11-11 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
M’Afrika Sibeko Currently PAC is kept in many people’s mind by the selfless and courageous acts of the its previous leaders dating as far as the era on Sobukwe, Pokella, and Mothopeng, the PAC is not in people’s mind on the basis of its current (today) mass based campaigns and party’s leader

Re: [PAYCO] Leaderless

2013-11-01 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Some days After, the courage of unions like AMCU and NUM to fight must be commended as opposed to lame duck BCAWU and other yellow trades unions. But also we have learnt that an employer who is also a shareholder will not be an honest leaders to African Workers:- *A 3 week strike in the constr

Re: [PAYCO] Leaderless

2013-11-01 Thread Tongogara Ndima
*Some of the construction sector's woes are over as one union accepts wage offer * by FSP Invest , 03 September 2013 *Earlier today, it emerged that one of the unions involved in the construction sector has accepted a wage deal. The Building Construction

Re: [PAYCO] RE: AFRICAN REVOLUTION BETRAYED - REMEMBER AND EMULATE STEVE BANTU BIKO (18 December 1946- 12 September 1977, Pretoria Prison Cell)

2013-10-31 Thread Tongogara Ndima
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi < nrkgag...@gmail.com> wrote: > Izwe lethu M'Afrika > > Find attached Handbook of Revolutionary Warfare for your reading and > discussion in your respective branches. We encourage party members in every > branch to form *Political Study

Re: [PAYCO] Kgalabi Masemola's Grave

2013-10-30 Thread Xola
email find you! -Original Message- From: Bongani Keith Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 14:19:37 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Kgalabi Masemola's Grave This is a reflection the PAC is unto I wonder why the PAC is no longer been taken seriou

Re: [PAYCO] Kgalabi Masemola's Grave

2013-10-30 Thread Bongani Keith
Sender: payco@googlegroups.com > Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 08:51:36 > To: payco@googlegroups.com > Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Kgalabi Masemola's Grave > > Cde XGT > Son of the Soil pls help out here. After we had contributed and collected > money f

Re: [PAYCO] Kgalabi Masemola's Grave

2013-10-30 Thread Xola
! -Original Message- From: baliwin...@yahoo.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 08:51:36 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Kgalabi Masemola's Grave Cde XGT Son of the Soil pls help out here. After we had contribute

Re: [PAYCO] Kgalabi Masemola's Grave

2013-10-29 Thread Sibonile Mpendukana
It is not just MoAfrika Masemola's grave that looks so heart mangling to be a grave of such a selfless leader. The graves of the martyrs that fell kwaLanga in 1960 is equally bad. There are no excuses for such neglect. iAfrika! Izwe lethu! On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:36 AM, wrote: > This is more

Re: [PAYCO] Kgalabi Masemola's Grave

2013-10-29 Thread baliwinile
Cde XGT Son of the Soil pls help out here. After we had contributed and collected money from a number of Africanists for the tomb stones, you presented a story to the effect that a tar road was built on the grave hence we could not continue with the tomb stone. Who is supposed to clear that with

Re: [PAYCO] Kgalabi Masemola's Grave

2013-10-29 Thread zmxesibe
This is more than sad. PAC really! Can we blame anc for that. What is wrong with our Leadership. Didn't they suppose to visit our Heroes graves? Anc takes care of their toy soldiers, one can really believe that PAC is cursed. Normal people do not behave like this. Ilizwe Lelethu Sent via my Bla

Re: [PAYCO] RE: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng

2013-10-24 Thread Masande Gonya
Why We always talk about Names of Individuals It is almost 9 years this disease is happening in this google page. The energy that we spend and writing skills , we can channel them in right platforms such as. Mail & Guardian Sowetan Daily Dispatch Izwi Latantu Cape Times PAC Internal communicat

RE: [PAYCO] RE: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng

2013-10-23 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] RE: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng Izwe Lethu Ma Afrika We all need to back and re-study Pan Africanism and the ideology of the PAC and for what we stand for and we fought for the liberation. Ma Afrika let us not loose focus in the coming elections. Once all

Re: [PAYCO] RE: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng

2013-10-23 Thread Tongogara Ndima
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:48 AM, frazer smith wrote: > Izwe Lethu Ma Afrika > > We all need to back and re-study Pan Africanism and the ideology of the > PAC and for what we stand for and we fought for the liberation. > > Ma Afrika let us not loose focus in the coming elections. Once all us > fail

Re: [PAYCO] RE: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng

2013-10-23 Thread Tongogara Ndima
ckoms...@yahoo.com>; Lerato Lephatsa; > ju-...@webmail.co.za; ; > ; ; < > crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za>; ; Ikey Isaacs< > ikeyisa...@gmail.com>; ; Gordon MPinie< > gordon.mpi...@gmail.com>; ; Vusi8 .< > vemahla...@gmail.com>; rakwe...@yahoo.com; Xola

RE: [PAYCO] Unveiling ceremony: Mawande Jack - 9 November 2013

2013-10-23 Thread Mpuka Radinku
Tongogara Ndima Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:10 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Unveiling ceremony: Mawande Jack - 9 November 2013 Mo-Afrika Mpuka Is there transport organised from Gauteng to Unveiling? If no, I suggest that former Azanyu Comrades to organise transport, it

Re: [PAYCO] Unveiling ceremony: Mawande Jack - 9 November 2013

2013-10-23 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Mo-Afrika Mpuka Is there transport organised from Gauteng to Unveiling? If no, I suggest that former Azanyu Comrades to organise transport, it will be great to travel and pay our respects! Lefatshe La Rona- Courage, Unity, Action Ndima On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Mpuka Radinku wrote:

Re: [PAYCO] RE: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng

2013-10-23 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Comrade Nkrumah The angle you brought is interesting, it is true that some or most PAC NEC members are hiding themselves by posing as supporting or being against Cde President Letlapa Mphahlele and Cde GS Moloto. I thought we will hear NEC members speaking with one voice as a united PAC but we are

Re: [PAYCO] Unveiling ceremony: Mawande Jack - 9 November 2013

2013-10-22 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Comrade Mpuka Thanks for the information and positive words. Shango lashu Nkrumah Raymond Kgagud On 23 Oct 2013 00:02, "Mpuka Radinku" wrote: > Comrades > > ** ** > > I have just been made aware by MoAfrika Tsietsi Molebatsi that the family > of *Mawande Jack* in Uitenhage, Eastern Cape, in

Re: [PAYCO] music

2013-10-10 Thread Sbusiso Xaba
Talk to Xola Tyamzashe There are songs on You Tube as well On 8 October 2013 12:40, Thapelo Moloantoa wrote: > Dear ma Africa, I'm looking for digital files of our music, the > liberations songs of Azania..pls could you kindly suggest sources from > which I can locate such heritage thanks, > >

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-26 Thread Mphiri Masoga
Not to mention son lets do some work and crush our critics. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -Original Message- From: Tongogara Ndima Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 17:18:57 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-26 Thread Tongogara Ndima
13 14:01:07 +0200 > *To: *payco@googlegroups.com > *ReplyTo: * payco@googlegroups.com > *Subject: *Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 > > Izwe lethu Masoga > > Your view is well understood, it is only through PALF that as PAC we can > coordinate the PACs influence and growth

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-26 Thread Mphiri Masoga
From: Tongogara Ndima Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:01:07 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 Izwe lethu Masoga Your view is well understood, it is only through PALF that as PAC we can coordinate the

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-26 Thread Tongogara Ndima
nsure visibility of the party? > > > > Kind Regards > > Mphiri Masoga > SACWU > -- > *From: * Tongogara Ndima > *Sender: * payco@googlegroups.com > *Date: *Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:03:17 +0200 > *To: * > *ReplyTo: * payco@googlegroups.com

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-26 Thread Mphiri Masoga
to ensure visibility of the party? Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -Original Message- From: Tongogara Ndima Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:03:17 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 Mo-Aforika Masoga

Re: [PAYCO] PAC'S FATE IS DETERMINE AT NEO-COLONIAL COURTS

2013-09-26 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Izwe Lethu! Fikiswa On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Fikiswa Ntshwanti wrote: > MÁfrika, the PAC slogan is Izwe lethu, the next time you write Zwe lethu, > I'll take you to court. > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Tongogara Ndima < > ndimatongog...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Zwe lethu >> >>

Re: [PAYCO] PAC'S FATE IS DETERMINE AT NEO-COLONIAL COURTS

2013-09-26 Thread Fikiswa Ntshwanti
MÁfrika, the PAC slogan is Izwe lethu, the next time you write Zwe lethu, I'll take you to court. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Tongogara Ndima wrote: > Zwe lethu > > After the 11th and 18th May NEC Meetings, PAC President Letlapa Mphahlele > and Secretary General both supported by an NEC gr

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-26 Thread Tongogara Ndima
where I stand it is NACTU policy that all >> > Affiliates are supposed to be Worker Control and SACWU is one that is >> purely >> > worker control. >> > >> > We have not yet fully have functioning structures in place. >> > >> > >> > Kind Reg

RE: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-23 Thread Narius Moloto
To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 I have been informed by such victory of workers under NUM while BCAWU accepted meagre increase that vindicates the notion of many we strongly know that workers struggles in comprador burgeous comrades who sleep with corporate

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-20 Thread Mphiri Masoga
d by Vhararists or apolitical cowards whho will block every effort to propagate PAC. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -Original Message- From: Tongogara Ndima Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:22:22 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAY

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
phiri Masoga > > SACWU > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bongani Keith > > Sender: payco@googlegroups.com > > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:16:52 > > To: > > Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SAB

Re: [PAYCO] Pseudo PAYCO National Conference seats Saturday 21 September 2013.

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
M'Afrika, if we are not careful we will do what we did in the past, that is, we complained about Letlapa destroying PAC since 2006 QwaQwa Congress, very soon we will complain about Narius destroying PAC before as a party builder and after since Butterworth Congress. This can't go on like this. Z

Re: [PAYCO] Pseudo PAYCO National Conference seats Saturday 21 September 2013.

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
M'Afrika Keith, you are correct, we cannot allow both Letlapa and Narius to divide PAC and party component structures, if we are careful 2014 national elections PAC will be embarrassed and loose the one seat of parliament. I fully understand Cde Linda's explanation, we know that in Gauteng Smoll Zo

Re: [PAYCO] Pseudo PAYCO National Conference seats Saturday 21 September 2013.

2013-09-20 Thread Bongani Keith
Revolutionary greetings, what cadre Tongora raises it is a thorny subject in the youth of the PAC while we've observed the issues in the era of Letlapa with PACYL now in the era of Narius they quickly used former PASMA NEC members Eddy and Small to cease power within PAYCO at all cost to continue w

Re: [PAYCO] Pseudo PAYCO National Conference seats Saturday 21 September 2013.

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
ur email find you! > -- > *From: * Tongogara Ndima > *Sender: * payco@googlegroups.com > *Date: *Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:16:03 +0200 > *To: * > *ReplyTo: * payco@googlegroups.com > *Subject: *Re: [PAYCO] Pseudo PAYCO National Conference seats Saturday 21

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
: payco@googlegroups.com > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:16:52 > To: > Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 > > I have been informed by such victory of workers under NUM while BCAWU > accepted meagre increase that vindicates the notion of many we > str

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-20 Thread Bongani Keith
; -Original Message- > From: Bongani Keith > Sender: payco@googlegroups.com > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:16:52 > To: > Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 > > I have been informed by such victory of workers under NUM while BCAWU &g

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-20 Thread Mphiri Masoga
ACWU -Original Message- From: Bongani Keith Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:16:52 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 I have been informed by such victory of workers under NUM while BCAWU accepted meagre increase that vindic

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-20 Thread Bongani Keith
I have been informed by such victory of workers under NUM while BCAWU accepted meagre increase that vindicates the notion of many we strongly know that workers struggles in comprador burgeous comrades who sleep with corporate bosses which is NUM, BCAWU & etc are examples of such in this case NUM is

Re: [PAYCO] Pseudo PAYCO National Conference seats Saturday 21 September 2013.

2013-09-20 Thread linda ndebele
! -Original Message- From: Tongogara Ndima Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:16:03 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Pseudo PAYCO National Conference seats Saturday 21 September 2013. COmrade Mandyoli, PAC Youths must stop acting like idiots, Letlapa and

Re: [PAYCO] Fw: REGISTER at our nearest IEC...

2013-09-20 Thread Oyama Rwaxa ka Jamnda
IZWE LETHU NOBLE SON Let us embarrass both factions by doing our bit & NOT focus on their actions lest we be found in their mayhem! Shango lashu On 20 September 2013 10:10, Tongogara Ndima wrote: > MoAFrika Mphiri, your energy is encouraging but one thing you are missing > noble son of

Re: [PAYCO] Pseudo PAYCO National Conference seats Saturday 21 September 2013.

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
COmrade Mandyoli, PAC Youths must stop acting like idiots, Letlapa and Narius are using these youths against each other. Smoll Zondo group is on the side of Moloto while Pitso is on the side of Letlapa. It also seems like some of these young leaders like Zondo and Pitso they are also enjoying this

Re: [PAYCO] Fw: REGISTER at our nearest IEC...

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
MoAFrika Mphiri, your energy is encouraging but one thing you are missing noble son of soil is that the PAC NEC choose to fight among each other instead of focusing on planning for 2014 National Elections, other political parties are all over the media mobilising the people and encouraging people t

Re: [PAYCO] Structures

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
MoAfrika Makhanya, you are 100% correct Muendane does not belong to a PAC branch and NEC members are elected not appointed. We condemned Letlapa for disregarding the PAC Constitution, today Narius Moloto is doing the same thing.I wish PAC members should stop following individual leaders and should

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-20 Thread linda ndebele
I meant NUM Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: "linda ndebele" Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 07:52:48 To: Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 Greetings,

Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-20 Thread linda ndebele
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Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2

2013-09-20 Thread Tongogara Ndima
Izwe lethu M'Afrika Comrade Masoga and BCAWU comrades please clarify this statement, some of us are worried because it seems NACTU and its affiliates have become yellow trade union not fighting exploitation of workers. The National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) has yet again scored a major victory

RE: [PAYCO] Role of youth in policy development

2013-09-19 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
hich continues to disregard and operate outside the PAC constitution and principles; Shango lashu Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of linda ndebele Sent: 19 September 2013 10:21 AM To: payco@googlegroups.com S

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