- Original Message -
From: Frits Wüthrich
Subject: Hot pixels
My new Olympus C350zoom camera has an option that should be run once a
year according to the manual. It is called pixal mapping, and what it
does is identify the hot pixels and set the camera to work around those,
so
Well, you just fucked yourself as far as I am concerned.
You are either trying to sell defective equipment, or you are too stupid to
live.
Either way, I wouldn't be buying equipment from you.
William Robb
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: Let's talk MV for a bit... (off-topic question)
Single malt, single cask (barrel ?). Usually they blend the content from
different casks to even out differences in
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Flatbed Scanner Suggestions
Hi gang,
I would like to buy a very good quality flatbed scanner for the
purpose of scanning old photographs which will be repaired and
retouched in Photoshop, and later reproduced as a finished
Thanks Dario - VERY interesting. BTW your links to the crops on page 9e
(studio shots) don't seem to work.
Apart from some excess halo'ing in the TV masts on the 55mm shots, the
Genzo has done an exceptional job and shows waaay more detail in the
Pentax shots than the Canon ones can manage.
The
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax lens prices
P.S. Ironically, re bidding war, we had been bidding on a used lens
(Zenitar). I found out later that got the same thing NEW about $10 cheaper
that what
that auction finished at.
That's how crazy ebay
On 9/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
From what I've read, for Pro games (which are played in much better lit
arenas), still shooters set up multiple radio slaved flashes in the
rafters/cat walks above the court. Now the pro players may be used to flash,
and anyway, most wildlife and athletes
On 9/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I'm still waiting for Jeff to send it to me (he has the DigiElph).
Otherwise, I have a roll to bring in tomorrow, but I'm cheap, and go for 3
day service. If Jeff doesn't have anything by Wednesday or Thursday, I
should have the roll back, and I'll
Um, I'm pretty sure that's our Jerome jerking our chainprobably
bought a dslr.
tv
-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, you just fucked yourself as far as I am concerned.
You are either trying to sell defective equipment, or you
are too stupid
Argumentative and irrational.
Sounds like a troll to me.
Besides, pictures are composed of gray matter.
Horrible pictures == lack of gray matter.
CRB
Reel him in, Jerome. He went for it.
At 09:57 AM 11/10/03, throwing caution to the wind, William Robb wrote:
Well, you just fucked yourself as far as I am concerned.
You are either trying to sell defective equipment, or you are too stupid to
live.
Either way, I wouldn't be buying equipment from
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Frits Wüthrich
Subject: Hot pixels
My new Olympus C350zoom camera has an option that should be run once a
year according to the manual. It is called pixal mapping, and what it
does is identify the hot pixels and
Pretty much any scanner will have enough resolution for your needs. You may
want to look into the Microtek scanner that has ASF's Digital ICE built in
if you are going to scan a lot of photos that need repair. I have heard that
it is a memory hog so it may not work as well if you have an older
It comes with the full version of silverfast, which is
worth the extra $$. It is not image manipulation
software but improved scanning software.
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All the 3200 Pro gets you over the 3200 is some
image manipulation
software that isn't as good as
What does Silverfast do that Epson's PhotoShop plug in doesn't do? I use
the Epson Twain softward and scan at 3200, 16 bit. I don't do any
corrections at the scan level to speak of. I do most of that in
PhotoShop. The scans are awesome. The 3200 did come with some version of
Silverfast, but I
Yeah probably. Interesting how some replies to threads like this show you
who's got no sense of humour (or on a more lenient note, who's had a really
long day and is too tired to read between the lines). Anyway, Bob (Walkden)
if you're on this thread, remember that stuff about AI and The Turing
Silverfast is a bit more featured and it does come
with more canned profiles, but also allows just a
little more control for difficult slides. Not everyone
needs it but if you do it is very worth while.
--- Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doesn't Silverfast have specific colour profiles
Hi folks,
Just bought this off ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2962277257category=29982rd=1
It was a speculative buy, which could turn a dog. Is that the same as
a Vivitar? I know Kiron manufactured Series 1 lenses. Is that a
rebadged
I'm in sunny California (not that it's too sunny today), right in
the heart of Silicon Valley - San Jose, to be precise.
Just an observation, your message header shows an East Coast time
(-0500). That's a bit odd...
Not really. Note that I'm posting from a panix.com account.
Panix is
separated by commas from two Scotches, in the line:
. . .Lagavulin 16, Single-single, Caol Ila 17,. . .
Which might it have been?The Lagavulin 16? Not that it matters one whit.
Just curious.
My guess is the Caol Ila 17, but a single-single Lagavulin would have been nice.
-Original Message-
From: Stephen Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I need some help with flash for my 645nII and 360 FGZ. So
far I've gotten
acceptable results but want to try a flash bracket. Does
Pentax make one to
fit the 645nII? How about Stroboframe?
I use a Stroboframe
What does basically mean in this situation? Are the specs the same
or not, and, if not, what are the differences?
It means that while there are a few small differences, they
are not in areas that make much difference in day-to-day use.
Thus one might say that the MZ-3 is basically the
- Original Message -
From: Doug Brewer
Subject: Re: My eBay listings
Reel him in, Jerome. He went for it.
Ah, I forgot to turn the humour meter on this morning.
So it goes, we can't all be 100% perceptive 100% of the time.
William Robb
Hi John,
John Francis wrote:
separated by commas from two Scotches, in the line:
. . .Lagavulin 16, Single-single, Caol Ila 17,. . .
Which might it have been? The Lagavulin 16? Not that it matters one whit.
Just curious.
My guess is the Caol Ila 17, but a
Hi,
Jostein wrote:
Which we don't need since none of us shoot sports events with an Optio
S anyway. :-)
Speak for yourself. Never heard of snail racing?
mike
8-)
Few, if any photographers come anywhere near eye level to most NBA players...
BR
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But direct flash at eye level on the playing floor would be a definite
no-no in my book..
LOL
Have you met Cotty?
Plus someone in the first row of seats may be at that kinda level, and
pretty close to the players too.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 November 2003 17:48
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Shooting baskteball
I did not shoot it. It was a surreal environment to watch it for me though.
I was at the finish line at the Ironman Florida triathlon and the eclipse
could clearly be seen above and to the north of the finish line.
Twenty-two hours on the site,
César
Panama City, Florida
-- - Original
Hi,
tom, drinking from Cotty's cup, wrote:
Falsh bracket
Take more water with it, dear boy!
mike
Despite the alleged demise of MF prices, some things still do go for silly
prices.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2962301044category=468
8rd=1
Yes it is a rare lens, and apparently a good performer, but $238 is a lot of
money.
Peter
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From:
Not IMO ... it's a rare lens AND a great performer. Worth every
penny!
Peter Jordan wrote:
Despite the alleged demise of MF prices, some things still do
go for silly prices.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2962301044
--
Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per
KEH had one for over $400 sometime in the last year. When I was watching
them they seemed to go close to 300 on ebay. I'm just glad I managed to
pick mine up for less than that.
William in Utah.
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From: Peter Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Paul,
I have the Epson 2450, basically the same software. I find that the
Epson Twain driver works pretty well for quite a few things. I tend
to use Silverfast more often for the following reasons:
Allows better control over type of film being scanned
Provides for better control of the
William Robb.
Buddy. Friend. Amigo. Why such foul language?!
ROTFL. You, my friend, have just been promoted to Poster Child of the Think
before you Type PDML campaign. LOL. I don't even know what to say. Oh wait...
what was that you said...
you are too stupid to live.
Hmmm. I think that'll
Also, many thanks to Ruediger Neumann for the link to the German page
discussing Genzo RAW utility.
At the end, the main problem with image quality of the *ist D truly looks to
be the bad RAW-JPEG conversion done by the Pentax software. If you do a good
conversion, the pictures have nothing to
P.S. Ironically, re bidding war, we had been bidding on a used lens
(Zenitar). I found out later that got the same thing NEW about $10 cheaper
that what
that auction finished at.
That's how crazy ebay is.
All it means is that you need to do your homework, and find out what the
market price
Just jokes.
ANyhow, back to your scheduled broadcasting.
- jerome
I found it funny. And I started wishing for a camera that knew the rule of
thirds (although I am not sure I believe in that anyway. Hmm, maybe if I could
argue with it -- okay camera, but not in THIS situation!).
But this means the hardware design is sound, software
tweaks can be fixed later, but they better be soon!\
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, many thanks to
Ruediger Neumann for the link
to the German page
discussing Genzo RAW utility.
At the end, the main problem with image quality of
the
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Doug Brewer
Subject: Re: My eBay listings
Reel him in, Jerome. He went for it.
Ah, I forgot to turn the humour meter on this morning.
So it goes, we can't all be 100% perceptive 100% of the time.
William Robb
Well, Jerome forgot
I just got word from Pentax Colorado that my original *istD has been
replaced and was shipped 2nd day UPS from Golden.
Bill
Anyone having trouble listing things today???
I'm trying to relist and get a we are sorry, we
can't process your request
Going to the announcement board is REALLY annoying
as they say that
there WERE problems with listing and searching by
seller but they
were fixed yesterday.
Sigh.
annsan
I shot basketball back in the days when I was a high school teacher. I
used to shoot from the floor with high speed black and white film and a
normal lens or an 80mm. Most gyms have more than enough light to give
you f4 a 1/250 with 1600 asa film.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Few, if any
I use the Stroboframe Pro-T as well for my 67. One of the nice
features about it is that it is designed for you to continue to use
the built-in grips on your camera instead of hanging onto the bracket.
For the 67II, this works great as the built in grips are very good.
I suspect the same is
I find ***L jpeg to be more than enough for my use, and I don't use the
Pentax software. I import directly into Photoshop via PIM.
Bill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the
I'll have to try Silverfast. Thanks for the info.
Bruce Dayton wrote:
Paul,
I have the Epson 2450, basically the same software. I find that the
Epson Twain driver works pretty well for quite a few things. I tend
to use Silverfast more often for the following reasons:
Allows better
Is this your new email address?
How do you like your Igital*Dist?
Bill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: dumber and dumberer
William Robb.
Buddy. Friend. Amigo. Why such foul language?!
ROTFL.
Uh, what are hot pixels?
Defects in the sensor?
Marnie aka Doe
I remain a bit puzzled about how a question about love ended up on the topic
of booze.
Marnie aka Doe
Marnie Lashed Out: (... or wait... was it Doe? I can't keep up)
However, I don't find this follow up post very funny.
With that said, hopefully we can nip it in the bud. (but come on Marnie...
could I really have let that one slide? they wuz askin for it It absolutely
made my morning. I
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Uh, what are hot pixels?
Defects in the sensor?
Yes, they are pixels which always report that they have seen more
light than they have really seen.
If you look at the picture that I posted from my defective *ist D
you'll see plenty of examples.
I am taking a trip north this week.
I will be in Maryland the 13th, 17th, 18th, and 19th. There is a chance I
will be busy the 19th. Have rental car, will travel.
Hope we can get some of the DCPDML, and anyone else, together while I am up
there.
Ciao,
César
Panama City, Florida
Paul Stenquist wrote:
I'll have to try Silverfast. Thanks for the info.
Yes, I am now curious too. Though I am pretty sure it didn't come with my
Epson 2400.
Marnie aka Doe
I will be taking a trip north this week.
I should be in NYC the 12th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 20th, 21st, and 22nd. I will
need one of the Saturdays to spend with my sister - I will have to check
which one, but otherwise I seem to have an open calendar.
This time I will be staying in the Bronx.
Quoting Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Is this your new email address?
No. Just the one I use for PDML when I subscribe every now and then. Helps
keep things organized.
How do you like your Igital*Dist?
I love it. But you guys knew that already from way back in August when we were
in NC
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I use the Stroboframe Pro-T as well for my 67. One of the nice
features about it is that it is designed for you to continue to use
the built-in grips on your camera instead of hanging onto
the bracket.
For the 67II,
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I remain a bit puzzled about how a question about love
ended up on the topic
of booze.
It almost always shakes out that way.
tv
Hi!
Jerome, actually the rules of thirds part made me chuckle somewhat.
Then I saw the auctions and the e-mail address you give in the
descriptions. Then I realized you forgot to put some smileys or
letters in angle brackets, or else.
And then William let his tongue slip, well, way slip, well,
Yes, they are pixels which always report that they have seen more
light than they have really seen.
If you look at the picture that I posted from my defective *ist D
you'll see plenty of examples.
alex
Aha, I get it.
When I see those in my jpegs, I figure they are caused by dust on the
Hi!
C Depends on lighting type. Sodium discharge lamps are revolting and have a
C colour temp at something ridiculous like 2.5K - yuck. Flourescent
C lighting is better but far from ideal. I would not use flash ever in a
C sports tournament, ever. Even a friendly between amateurs, it's just bad
Quoting Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anyone having trouble listing things today???
Nope. I just listed about 3 minutes ago.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2359127406
I'm about to list something else. If anything goes wrong I'll write back.
Otherwise, hopefully your
It apparently all starts when one begins talking about old Pentax
mechanical cameras! g
keith whaley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I remain a bit puzzled about how a question about love ended up on the topic
of booze.
Marnie aka Doe
On Monday, Nov 10, 2003, at 13:44 America/New_York, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Uh, what are hot pixels?
Defects in the sensor?
Hot pixels are sensor elements that got more excited than they should
have. They usually show up as excessive noise during long exposures.
The key to knowing whether
I would be surprised if new firmware and software is not out soon. Every
review has mentioned the weak software the the inadequate in-camera sharpening
tools, and this list is replete with complaints about the RAW conversion issue
particularly.
Quoting Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
But this
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, they are pixels which always report that they have seen more
light than they have really seen.
If you look at the picture that I posted from my defective *ist D
you'll see plenty of examples.
alex
Aha, I get it.
When I see those in my
- Original Message -
From: Bruce Dayton
Subject: Re[4]: Falsh bracket
I don't shoot nearly as much as you that way - only part time for me.
However, the flash attaches on the 67 on the left side. The shutter
button needs to be on top when shooting vertical.
Bruce, try cradling
- Original Message -
From: Collin Brendemuehl
Subject: Re: dumber and dumberer
I've also met PhD's with little common sense, while at the same time very
intelligent.
Yet I reacted as if reading some of those trolls on the NGs.
I reacted like as if I had read previous posts of
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #1392
Now the real reason for going to the 10D comes out: less weight (but only
if
you drop someother stuff too). I though you were some big tough guy. Not a
broken down wreck lke me.
My camera
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would be surprised if new firmware and software is not out soon. Every
review has mentioned the weak software the the inadequate in-camera sharpening
tools, and this list is replete with complaints about the RAW conversion issue
particularly.
Michael
Heck, I bid on something a couple of weeks ago, the week before the same item
(relisted)had not had a single bid so I figured I would get it no problem. Guess
what 30+ bids and it sold for more than I would ever have considered bidding and
I was willing to pay a fair price (around what several
I remember being in the package store near Christmas one year. The lady ahead of
me in line told the clerk she wanted their best bottle of brandy for her
husbands boss's Christmas preasent. I thought they were going to have to call
the EMS for her when they range it up.
--
John Francis wrote:
I'm liking the idea all of the sudden more and more that I get a new sensor
with each new roll of film. HAR!
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From: alex wetmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Hot pixels
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 [EMAIL
Cool. Count me in for something...I should be free every day except the
12th...
-Original Message-
From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:59 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss (E-mail)
Subject: NYCPDML warning.
I will be taking a trip north this
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From what I've read, for Pro games (which are played in much better lit
arenas), still shooters set up multiple radio slaved flashes in the
rafters/cat walks above the court. Now the pro players may be used to flash,
and anyway, most wildlife and
Look at Heidelberg-Hell scanners. Then decide you want a fairly good one (grin).
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi gang,
I would like to buy a very good quality flatbed scanner for the
purpose of scanning old photographs which will be repaired and
retouched in Photoshop, and later reproduced as
No, the Epson 3200 is not high-end, it is not even mid-line, it is a very good
consumer grade scanner though.
--
Boris Liberman wrote:
Hi!
tei Hi gang,
tei I would like to buy a very good quality flatbed scanner for the
tei purpose of scanning old photographs which will be repaired and
tei
See. This is why I stay unsubscribed and stick to the archives! Im forever
getting myself in trouble! I couldnt even do something as simple as
announcing my eBay auctions without sparking an old fashioned western high
noon shoot out. Dang blasted those corny jokes! They get me every time.
- Original Message -
From: Dave Miers
Subject: Re: Hot pixels
I'm liking the idea all of the sudden more and more that I get a new
sensor
with each new roll of film. HAR!
Yup, and then you give it to someone whom you just hope doesn't damage it in
some way before you get to see
I was wondering when someone will reply to that
original post politely. I knew there was something
about that post when I got to the part about the rule
of thirds thing but didn't want to start anything by
saying something hence I just waited.
Good one!
Francis M. Alviar
- Original Message -
From: jmb
Subject: Re: my ist-D samples
Is the ist D always ready to expose when the shutter button
is pressed? Any delay clearing the buffer and writing to the
card? I've also read here in PDML (or was it DPReview?) that
on focus priority that when a
Oh, good grief, Bill. You lose your sense of humor somewhere? You don see his
400/2.8 on that ebay list do you?
William Robb wrote:
Well, you just fucked yourself as far as I am concerned.
You are either trying to sell defective equipment, or you are too stupid to
live.
Either way, I wouldn't
The Pentax firmware, of course. What do *you* think does it?
Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I find ***L jpeg to be more than enough for my use, and I don't use the
Pentax software.
Really? What do you think does the conversion to JPEG, then?
Perhaps it thought it was doing me a favor, but the PDML unsubscribed me
due to too many bounced e-mails. Is this a known peculiarity of the
list administration software or is it likely to actually reflect a
hitherto-unknown problem with my e-mail account? I don't offhand know any
reason
Bill,
Just tried it - works ok. I think the shutter release button on the
67II and 67 are in a slightly different location. The 67II is on the
right grip slanted down when holding normal. Bit of a stretch to
reach in the manner you described - not impossible.
Right now, with the left wood
graywolf wrote:
I remember being in the package store near Christmas one year. The lady ahead of
me in line told the clerk she wanted their best bottle of brandy for her
husbands boss's Christmas preasent. I thought they were going to have to call
the EMS for her when they range it up.
Who shtarted thish, anyhow?
*parp*
[rest snipped. . .]
[apologies to Cotty!]
I was referring to the Photo Laboratory software that I don't use.
Bill
- Original Message -
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!
I find ***L jpeg to be more than
Not to worry, Jerome is no where near the nerd type PhD. Unusual amount of
common sense and lots of fun to be around. And Jerome, don't let this go to
your shiny head :-)
Bill
- Original Message -
From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November
I'm doing the same thing with AF400T's - Quantum Battery 2 on my belt
- much lighter than having the entire flash/battery being held by my
arms. The 67 is heavy enough!
Bruce
Monday, November 10, 2003, 12:20:44 PM, you wrote:
WR - Original Message -
WR From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WR
I had the same problem last week. Turned out to be something in MailWasher
causing the problem. Since I uninstalled it, no problems.
Bill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:13 PM
Subject: kicked off?
Perhaps it
Hi,
Keith Whaley wrote:
graywolf wrote:
I remember being in the package store near Christmas one year. The lady ahead of
me in line told the clerk she wanted their best bottle of brandy for her
husbands boss's Christmas preasent. I thought they were going to have to call
the EMS for
Sid Barras wrote:
I got the epson 3170, recently discontinued, from Adorama for the incredibly
low price of $179-- basically the same specs as the 3200 and the 3400.
Pat White replies:
It's hard to keep track, with Epson introducing new models with dizzying
frequency, but I was under the
If you recall there was a lot of speculation that the delay in release was do to
software problems. It seems like they got most of the bugs, but it still needs a
bit of optimizaion. However, since that is a field upgradable area, it will be
just a matter of time before the new firmware is
Do our list friends with connections to Pentax Japan, have any idea what Pentax plans
to do with the FA star lenses??? Are they updating the zoom line up? Deleting any?
New limited lenses??
I do not understand Pentax bringing out the ist-D (which is great) for $1600 or so,
and selling them
He knew that's exactly what you meant, as did everyone else that read your
message.
Quoting Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I was referring to the Photo Laboratory software that I don't use.
Bill
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From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unusual amount of common sense and lots of
fun to be around. And Jerome, don't let this go to
your shiny head :-)
Don't worry, Bill. I'm not trying to make my head any bigger (literally, or
otherwise) than it already is. If nothing else, I've realized that I've gotta
use more of those
Take some time to dig into this site.
http://graphicssoft.about.com/
It holds a wealth of links.
Best,
Jostein
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Pictures at: http://oksne.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday,
I remain a bit puzzled about how a question about love ended up on the topic
of booze.
Marnie aka Doe
A lot of photographers love booze? :)
Wondering if I'll get kicked off the list for not being enough of a drinker?
:)
Butch
Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(graywolf) wrote:
Look at Heidelberg-Hell scanners.
We'll call the EMS!
---
John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What are others thinking of this grip so far?
The reason I got the BG-10 for the MZ-S was mostly for the ability to use AA
batteries instead of the expensive CR-2's. Since I already have 4 or 5 sets
of NiMh for the Igital*Dist, and at least 4 chargers, I see no reason to
purchase the grip for
- Original Message -
From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a difference which makes no difference, is no difference. empirical
measurements indicate that there is no reason to dig further.
Yup,
remember what www.pdml.net says on the meaning of the PDML abbreviation:
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