Re: Boxes for batteries

2004-09-18 Thread David Mann
At work we've had a couple of cases of people accidentally shorting live DC busbars with their watch straps. We make power systems for telecommunications, typically capable of producing 1,000A at 48VDC. My watch has a leather strap... Cheers, - Dave On Sep 17, 2004, at 10:36 PM, mike wilson

Re: D*MNIT!!!!! A bargain hunter misses out.

2004-09-18 Thread DagT
And then the artist replies: I don´t know, I just liked it´s weirdness... :-) DagT På 18. sep. 2004 kl. 05.59 skrev Ryan Lee: I'm having one of those pleb-in-an-art-gallery moments.. But but but.. What does it mean? :-) Ryan - Original Message - From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: Leica Goes Digital

2004-09-18 Thread Jostein
The surprise do you credit, Shel. :-) You came across as a bit... patronising, I think. Jostein - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:10 PM Subject: Re: Leica Goes Digital Seems like you, to, misunderstood

Re: Leica Goes Digital

2004-09-18 Thread Jostein
Shel, I believe you. You sig. is absolutely hilarious in this context, though. :-) Cheers, Jostein From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] it was never my intention to be negative. Shel Belinkoff People that hate cats will come back as mice in their next life.

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Antonio
Well the fact that they are still successfull , 25 years on, is indicative that it is their policies work, and that their success is not due to chance as you argue. Monopoly is a game you have to play to win from the start. A. On 17/9/04 11:53 pm, John C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

PAW - Come on in, the water's warm!

2004-09-18 Thread David Mann
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=18-Sep-2004 - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the people with many pre-A lenses that are interested in a DSLR for right now are a tiny number of people. the software fix satisfied most of them. spending a lot of money to satisfy a few hundred of people is a waste of money. with Pentax looking now to

Re: PAW - Come on in, the water's warm!

2004-09-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/9/04, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=18-Sep-2004 Looks cold! Very nice Dave. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Herb Chong
i was being generous. Herb... - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 9:52 AM Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera! To satisfy a few hundred people? You're overestimating, Herb. This list represents 400-600

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
You guys don't seem to understand the implication of abandoning support of K/M lenses with no technical ( and no one has yet proven it was a cost issue either) reason to do so. They have crossed the line and can longer be trusted to support anything you buy for any time as they may decide

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Pentax didn't screw me. I'm very happy with the *ist D. When I bought my first one, I owned only K and M lenses. I was so happy with the way the *ist D worked with these lenses that I went out and bought a second *istD. I also bought an FA lens and a DA lens, which is exactly what Pentax had

Re: *istD lens quiry

2004-09-18 Thread brooksdj
Thanks John. I appreciate your time. Adding another $100.00 to the fund as we speak. Now to sell more pictures to get the remainder.:-) Dave Dave, results from the A70-210 f4 on the *ist-D look as good as they do on a film camera. I just shot two

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Guess you didn't read this: JCO wrote: You guys don't seem to understand the implication of abandoning support of K/M lenses with no technical ( and no one has yet proven it was a cost issue either) reason to do so. They have crossed the line and can longer be trusted to support anything you buy

Re: PAW - Come on in, the water's warm!

2004-09-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice shot, Dave. I like the grayscale effect in a color photograph. Very pretty. On Sep 18, 2004, at 6:35 AM, David Mann wrote: http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=18-Sep-2004 - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Sep 18, 2004, at 7:31 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: You guys don't seem to understand the implication of abandoning support of K/M lenses with no technical ( and no one has yet proven it was a cost issue either) reason to do so. They have crossed the line and can longer be trusted to support

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Or course I read it. But it's only your opinion, and it's not even based on personal experience. IThe vast majority of Pentax users who've bought and used the *istD don't agree with you. On Sep 18, 2004, at 7:58 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Guess you didn't read this: JCO wrote: You guys don't

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
If they abandoned K/M aperture setting for no good reason what exactly make you think they wont abandon other product's features shortly , later products, products you now own or might buy? Why trust them after this? It's a total about-face in policy from their entire previous history JCO

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Sep 18, 2004, at 7:31 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: You guys don't seem to understand the implication of abandoning support of K/M lenses with no technical ( and no one has yet proven it was a cost issue either) reason to do so. They have

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
They're not stupid. They'll continue to support those products and functions that matter. The aperture cam doesn't make a hoot of a difference. The *istD works fine without it. But you don't know that. You haven't tried it. On Sep 18, 2004, at 8:14 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: If they abandoned

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Again, those who are upset over the way the *istD utilizes K and M lenses are, for the most part, those who haven't tried it. Paul On Sep 18, 2004, at 8:16 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2004, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Sep 18, 2004, at 7:31 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: You guys

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I don't need to buy or use the camera to see what they are doing sucks. Less support of legacy products with absolutely nothing gained in the process. This is kinda similar to when they switched from screwmount to K-mount. The SM auto aperure and aperture sensing was lost on the newer K bodies but

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread John C. O'Connell
WRONG WRONG WRONG. When they went to K, they HAD to change the mount to provide bayonet mounting and the new mount was better. THEY GAINED A NEW BETTER MOUNTING SYSTEM. There is NO new gain with the istD mount, just loss of K/M AE. JCO -Original Message- From: Antonio [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Paul, JCO is not alone. I still own a couple of Pentax film cameras and lenses, they work just fine, I'll probably keep one of them around for the fun of it, but there's no more of my money to P. They are going in a direction that's not exactly to my like,

PAW - Chip Dale

2004-09-18 Thread Rfsindg
I can't compete with David Mann's beautiful come on in, the water's warm! http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=18-Sep-2004 so I'll offer this old shot with a story. 20 years ago last month, my employer gave us a family vacation to Disney World. Florida in August was 95 to

Re: Back home, after Ivan.

2004-09-18 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:30:59 +0100, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A snapper from Oxford named Cotty Was widely regarded as dotty His photos weren't bad But his jokes were just mad And his verse was much worse; it was grotty. Very clever, John!! Of course, my favourite limericks (for

Re: PAW - Come on in, the water's warm!

2004-09-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele
David Mann wrote: http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=18-Sep-2004 - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Hi, David Just got back on list and back to reality - now i have to see this??? waahh _ i wanna be _there_ Lovely, evocative shot. But you know that :) annsan

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread John Forbes
Do calm down. John On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:42:40 -0400, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WRONG, read what I said, you cant see it unless you press button and if you change aperture you cant see it unless you press button again. and if light changes, you cant see it unless you press

Re: PESO: The Land That Time Forgot....

2004-09-18 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:59:59 -0400 (EDT), Fred Widall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This evening I noticed the sun was casting the shadows of my grandson's toy dinosaurs on the wall producing an interesting image. Hope you like it. http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall/dinos.html That is an

Back - and stormy

2004-09-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mark R, are you safe and dry? Bill O ? I got back in time to see that Cesar was ok It has just tapered off here and it is never a real problem in my neck of the woods - though sometimes the power goes. Will eventually post a paw or two from my digital snaps Frank, the half roll of Tri-x was

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Antonio
Not exactly, the *istD provides digital capture, which its predecesors did not. To some that is a big gain. A. On 18/9/04 2:51 pm, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BIG DIFFERENCE - read my last post. When they abandoned M42 in favor of K mount there was a huge gain, much better and

Re: Back home, after Ivan.

2004-09-18 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:09:00 +0100, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean like this one (which I have slightly colinised)? A pleasing young girl of Nantucket Was * And * But * So ** I must say I prefer the unexpurgated

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Antonio
Well, in my book if the camera takes a stop down reading then it IS taking apeture into account. All I am concerned with is does the camera respond to changes I make manually to the apeture setting on the lens? Answer = Yes. And does it change the shutter speed accordingly? Answer = Yes. And does

Re: OT - HitchHiker's Guide NEW SERIES

2004-09-18 Thread Steve Jolly
Rob Studdert wrote: This will definitely be of interest on this list ;-) http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/ Airing on BBC Radio 4 Tuesdays from this coming week. Listen online via above site RealAudio streams only Gr,,, Sorry :-) S

FS - HP PhotoSmart SCSI scanner 2400ppi

2004-09-18 Thread Christian
Now that I'm not shooting film anymore I think it's time to sell the scanner. HP PhotoSmart Scanner Model # C5100A http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?product=58823lang=enlc=encc=usdlc=endocname=bpy40001 - 2400ppi for slides and negatives 300ppi for prints up to 5x7 - 30 bit color (10

Re: PAW - Come on in, the water's warm!

2004-09-18 Thread Steve Desjardins
Nice composition and mood. I really like the grading of the blue/gray tones. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ME Super with sticky mirror

2004-09-18 Thread Sarbu Alexandru
Hi! I saw today, in a sh camera store, this beautifull ME Super... unfortunatelly it has a little problem: after the shutter fires, the mirror won't come down (not even after a *very* gentle touch). Also the mirror foam looks quite bad, I think it should be changed. Otherwise, the camera seems to

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread ernreed2
Paul posted: They're not stupid. They'll continue to support those products and functions that matter. The aperture cam doesn't make a hoot of a difference. The *istD works fine without it. But you don't know that. You haven't tried it. Paul, I agree with you entirely about the *ist D

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Nick Clark
Pentax DO support the legacy products fare better than most other manufacturers. My M and K lenses work perfectly on my MX and KX which is what they were intended for. They also work perfectly on my MZ-S, and very well on the *istD. They don't work well enough on my wife's *ist, but she has

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Caveman
Hey Mark, Support for legacy lenses is just a small part of the picture. Remember that we're speaking of going from film to digital. It's a different world. I am not even sure that I want a SLR type of camera. I suspect that what I really want is a Canon G7 with fast response and fancy new low

Re: ME Super with sticky mirror

2004-09-18 Thread Steve Jolly
It probably just needs a CLA - if you can find someone to do that for you, I'd go for it. S Sarbu Alexandru wrote: Hi! I saw today, in a sh camera store, this beautifull ME Super... unfortunatelly it has a little problem: after the shutter fires, the mirror won't come down (not even after a

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread ernreed2
JCO said, among other things: face it the *istD does not offer true AE with K/M. It offers a mode, which I guess you could call one shot AE, that is better than manual but much less than conventional true AE. You could also call it Hyper Manual. ERN

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
that is NOT the way AE has worked for the last 30 years at pentax. It has always been continuous, on the fly, and with the aperure wide open. Stop down method is generally inferior because it unnessacarily lowers the sensitivity of meter. And having to take a reading before every exposure and

Re: PAW - Chip Dale

2004-09-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice story, nice shot. I miss having small children around. I'm going to have to get my granddaughter over here every now and then. Paul On Sep 18, 2004, at 9:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't compete with David Mann's beautiful come on in, the water's warm!

RE: BIIIIG prints - *istD style

2004-09-18 Thread Dave Madsen
Yeah, I throw all of my crap away, too, but I don't have anything left when I'm done. Dave -Original Message- From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: BG prints - *istD style *blush*

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
You never had to take any readings with any Pentax camera that supported AE. all you had to do was fire the shutter. NO reading was ever necessary. Fire Fire Fire. That is what AE is automatic exposure, takes lighting, film speed and aperture into account at all times and fully automatically.

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Interesting that you should mention the screwmounts, Antonio. (It was actually in your last post, but I already deleted it.) For the very fact that it doesn't have the stop down cam, the *istD supports screwmount lenses better than any of the K-mount cameras have for the last quarter century.

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Nick Clark
I think you'll find that K/M legacy lens support is worse with other manufacturers than with Pentax. Nick -Original Message- From: Caveman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18/09/04 13:48:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera!

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Antonio
Not true, the gain is that you dont have to include a 1970's type manual apeture cam as new lenses can comunicate with the camera bodies electronically. Therefore you get lighter, les complicated lenses and mounts, which have less moving parts and hence less to go wrong. I would say that is an

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Caveman
Cotty found the solution ;-) Nick Clark wrote: I think you'll find that K/M legacy lens support is worse with other manufacturers than with Pentax.

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Antonio
Yes, so I hear. I found using screwmounts on my super a a bit of a pain, but the process sounds a whole lot more user friendly on the *istD. A. On 18/9/04 5:05 pm, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting that you should mention the screwmounts, Antonio. (It was actually in your

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
How is it supporting screwmounts any better than a whole host of K bodies that would work in true AE stopdown mode with screwmounts? JCO -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

RE: ME Super with sticky mirror

2004-09-18 Thread Don Sanderson
It's going to require a CLA (Clean, Lube, Adjust) to work properly. Almost ANY ME Super you buy today is going to need this done. So if you have a place that will CLA one at a fair price (Under $100.00 US) you might as well start with as cheap a one as possible. The sticky mirror problem is caused

Finally, a 24-85mm digicam (Nikon Coolpix 8400)

2004-09-18 Thread Paul Stregevsky
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0409/04091602nikoncp8400.asp Paul Franklin Stregevsky

RE: PAW - Come on in, the water's warm!

2004-09-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Nice tranquil shot. Has a good feel to it. Good eye on this one, Dave. Shel From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=18-Sep-2004

PAW - Birthday in a Cheap Motel

2004-09-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Not sure if I posted this one before. Made with a (Pentax) PS camera in keeping with the situation LOL http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/bday-08bw.html

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Im in favor of PROGRESS. Doing things in a new inferior way is not PROGRESS. If it was the same or better as the past, that's OK. But going backwards is REGRESSION. Especially when it was not necessary ( nothing new was gained for this regression). Sorry, I don't see how you can call removal of

RE: PAW - Birthday in a Cheap Motel

2004-09-18 Thread Don Sanderson
I think I know that guy! Didn't he used to teach Phys Ed? Thanks Shel, neat shot. Don (Who now likes almost ANY post not titled: Re:istDs - what a great camera!) -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 10:33 AM To: [EMAIL

RE: PAW - Birthday in a Cheap Motel

2004-09-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thought it might be fun to lighten things up around here Shel From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think I know that guy! Didn't he used to teach Phys Ed? Thanks Shel, neat shot. Don (Who now likes almost ANY post not titled: Re:istDs - what a great camera!) Not sure if I

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
EYES ROLLING AGAIN. The inclusion of the cheap simple aperture sensing cam in the body does not preclude removal of mechanical linkage in new lenses. Both can be done. The miniscule weight savings of the removal of the aperure cam sensor certainly does not outweigh the abiiliy to open aperure

RE: PAW - Birthday in a Cheap Motel

2004-09-18 Thread Don Sanderson
You got DAT right! -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PAW - Birthday in a Cheap Motel Thought it might be fun to lighten things up around here Shel From: Don

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Jostein wrote: Btw, I happened upon a band of reindeer hunters when out photographing last week-end. It was they who told me about the radioactivity. In some parts, the Tchernobyl aftermath is still an issue. Sheep having grazed freely in the mountains are still controlled before slaughtered.

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Keith Whaley
Yeah, and the world might end tomorrow. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it... All this serious _supposition_ (=guessing) on what Pentax MIGHT do tomorrow, and what Pentax MIGHT be thinking of doing next year, and what Pentax' future lens design manufacture plans MIGHT be... Geez! All

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Keith Whaley
Jim Apilado wrote: I believe that if you use M-42 lenses on a K2, K2DMD, ME, and the LX, the AE is easier than that on the *ist D. Those cameras will sense the change in light and accordingly will adjust the shutter speed for it. If you have to continually press the green button for changing

Sandisk 2 GB Compact Flash Card

2004-09-18 Thread Joseph Tainter
This is the basic model, w/o write acceleration. The price has come down to the point that it is attractive, and I could use the extra capacity. How annoying is the wait while these things write files? I am used to the Lexar 40X cards. Is there a web site comparing write times? Thanks, Joe

Re: Sandisk 2 GB Compact Flash Card

2004-09-18 Thread Caveman
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007 Might want to look at the Transcend 45x price in your area. Joseph Tainter wrote: This is the basic model, w/o write acceleration. The price has come down to the point that it is attractive, and I could use the extra capacity. How annoying

DA 18-55mm f3.5/5.6

2004-09-18 Thread Joseph Tainter
Adorama lists this at $199.95. Pentax needed to have this lens, and it should help DS sales. Joe

Re: OT - HitchHiker's Guide NEW SERIES

2004-09-18 Thread John Francis
mike wilson mused: Cotty wrote: This will definitely be of interest on this list ;-) http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/ Airing on BBC Radio 4 Tuesdays from this coming week. Listen online via above site Unfortunately, the Beeb uses a grossly invasive (though less so

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I know and understand exposure modes. What they are offering for K/M is not the same as or as good as true AE. Period. If it was there never would have been aperture cams on K/M lenses in the first place. JCO -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Oh, Anders! Was: Back home, after Ivan. OT and OC

2004-09-18 Thread John Forbes
Sorry list, I apologise for encouraging this guy. ;-) Anders, it was a joke. No such verse actually exists. John On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:37:40 +0200, Anders Hultman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John: You mean like this one (which I have slightly colinised)? A pleasing young girl of Nantucket Was

Re: BIIIIG prints - *istD style

2004-09-18 Thread John Forbes
How true, how true. John On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:59:27 -0600, Dave Madsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I throw all of my crap away, too, but I don't have anything left when I'm done. Dave -Original Message- From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I guess Keith just doesn't understand the reality of pentax not fully supporting the K mount without cause. It is a first in their history and goes against everything they always stood for in supporting legacy products when possible. They certainly could have fully supported K/M very easily and

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread John Francis
Jim Apilado mused: I believe that if you use M-42 lenses on a K2, K2DMD, ME, and the LX, the AE is easier than that on the *ist D. Those cameras will sense the change in light and accordingly will adjust the shutter speed for it. If you have to continually press the green button for

Re: *istD AE mode for K M lenses

2004-09-18 Thread Steve Jolly
Gonz wrote: Well when you press the green button, the aperture would stop down to its mechanical setting, a meter reading would be taken, which would allow the system to calculate the aperture based on the current ISO setting and the ratio of the EVs stopped down and wide open. Now you save

Limericks (was:Re: Back home, after Ivan.)

2004-09-18 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Anders Hultman wrote: Could you please send it to me off list? For those with a penchant for this type of poetry, I recommend The Limmerick - the famous Paris edition (no author/editor) ISBN 8148-0699-6 Library of Congress card number 78-56301 Hours and hours of eyestreamingly funny

Re: OT: Two Things About Two Photographers

2004-09-18 Thread Bob W
Hi, As an interesting aside, on page 15 of Photo, there's a later photograph of the Master himself, taken around 1975, and guess what he's got around his neck? Yup, a Leica CL!! I was very excited. Doesn't have the 40mm Summicron C that was designed for it, but rather something chrome,

Re: Back - and stormy

2004-09-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/9/04, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: I got back Hi Ann Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Keith Whaley wrote: Yeah, and the world might end tomorrow. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it... All this serious _supposition_ (=guessing) on what Pentax MIGHT do tomorrow, and what Pentax MIGHT be thinking of doing next year, and what Pentax' future lens design manufacture plans

Ghostless uv filter.

2004-09-18 Thread Johan Uiterwijk Winkel
Hello. With a seconds hand lens I also got a Pentax Ghostless uv filter. I looks like a little lens itself (it is not flat). Currently I am not using any filters to protect my lenses (I don't like some extra glas in front of some good lenses.) But I am curious about this one. Has anyone got

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/9/04, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: Do calm down. John GO BRITS :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Keith Whaley
J. C. O'Connell wrote: I guess Keith just doesn't understand the reality of pentax not fully supporting the K mount without cause. It is a first in their history and goes against everything they always stood for in supporting legacy products when possible. They certainly could have fully

Re: OT: Two Things About Two Photographers

2004-09-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Your comment reminds me that a recent issue of Aperture (#171) did a feature on HCB's early work, much of it previously unpublished, including some photos he made in 1931 in Ivory Coast. The issue also includeds an interview with the old guy. Probably a nice addition to the library of HCB fans.

Re: Oh, Anders! Was: Back home, after Ivan. OT and OC

2004-09-18 Thread mike wilson
Hi, John Forbes wrote: Sorry list, I apologise for encouraging this guy. ;-) Anders, it was a joke. No such verse actually exists. Seven examples in my book with Nantucket in the first line. Two variations of Anders' ditty. None with John's first line. So now we have to write it: A pleasing

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Antonio
Now you are just spinning things - what I said was that you seem stuck in the past if you think that a camera made in 2004 should fully support lenses made in 1975. Apart from anything else it is not in Pentax financial interests to do so. 1970s lenses would canabalise any new lens sales they can

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/9/04, Caveman, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty found the solution ;-) Nick Clark wrote: I think you'll find that K/M legacy lens support is worse with other manufacturers than with Pentax. Hmm. I did what I did because I enjoy the old Pentax lenses and the quality is first rate.

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/9/04, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: In the UK, too. Sheep from the Lake District are routinely taken to the south of England to graze for a few weeks before slaughter, to reduce the isotope levels. I presume that the isotopes are flushed out of the gut and deposited in the

Re: Oh, Anders! Was: Back home, after Ivan. OT and OC

2004-09-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/9/04, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: A pleasing young girl of Nantucket Was sad, for her istD was tuckered And her card was SD But she got batteries free So she threw the K mount in a bucket Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Sandisk 2 GB Compact Flash Card

2004-09-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/9/04, Joseph Tainter, discombobulated, unleashed: How annoying is the wait while these things write files? I am used to the Lexar 40X cards. Is there a web site comparing write times? Not perhaps what you are looking for but interesting reading... http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/cf.htm

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
20 years of film cameras that fully supported both A and K/M lenses is all the proof I need to show it can be done. I know it can be done because I could design it myself it is so simple. all it is is simple exposure compensation, so many stops more exposure per degree of rotation of the cam.

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Keith Whaley
Cotty wrote: [...] My Pentax allegiance still remains, but to a company that I knew in the 70s and 80s. You pays yer money, you takes yer choice. Having said that, I would definitely consider an *ist Ds and a wide prime for the pocket! Way cool. WAYyyy cool, sir! What's 24mm (35mm equivalent

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Your whole point is pointless when they can easily support K/M AND A,F lenses. the A and F lenses are not hindered in any way by the K/M support. JCO -Original Message- From: Antonio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Keith Whaley
Cotty wrote: On 18/9/04, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: In the UK, too. Sheep from the Lake District are routinely taken to the south of England to graze for a few weeks before slaughter, to reduce the isotope levels. I presume that the isotopes are flushed out of the gut and

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Antonio
1. How can a point be pointless? 2. Yes, Pentax *could* support these lenses better, that is correct. 3. They chose not to some time ago. Get over it. A. On 18/9/04 9:34 pm, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your whole point is pointless when they can easily support K/M AND A,F

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Keith Whaley
J. C. O'Connell wrote: 20 years of film cameras that fully supported both A and K/M lenses is all the proof I need to show it can be done. I know it can be done because I could design it myself it is so simple. all it is is simple exposure compensation, so many stops more exposure per degree of

SD cards on ist DS (was: Re: Photokina)

2004-09-18 Thread Paul Stregevsky
Size. Pentax evidently is betting they'll gain more sales by offering the smallest DSLR than they'll lose by forfeiting the upward compatibility with the DS's big brother. Joseph Tainter wrote: Why did Pentax use an SD card in the *ist DS? That is a big strike against buying one as a back-up

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Bob W
Hi, In the UK, too. Sheep from the Lake District are routinely taken to the south of England to graze for a few weeks before slaughter, to reduce the isotope levels. I presume that the isotopes are flushed out of the gut and deposited in the field. Come to think of it, I haven't heard of

Re: OT - HitchHiker's Guide NEW SERIES

2004-09-18 Thread Bob W
Hi, I'll just have to listen to the CD. My tapes of the original broadcast wore out some years ago. You could always listen to the programme itself! It's on during my homeward drive so I expect I'll listen to it. However, I must heretically say that I've never been a fan of H2G2. I think it's

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Bob W
Hi, Saturday, September 18, 2004, 6:28:12 PM, Keith wrote: Yeah, and the world might end tomorrow. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it... All this serious _supposition_ (=guessing) on what Pentax MIGHT do tomorrow, and what Pentax MIGHT be thinking of doing next year, and what Pentax'

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Here's a crazy thought Mike, one that you touched upon: If the gear you have works for what you're doing, what need is there to buy something newer, especially if it makes it difficult to use some of the gear you already have? If you want to do something other than what you're now doing, then

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread Graywolf
Only three people making dozens of posts. We are turning into Usenet here... -- J. C. O'Connell wrote: You guys don't seem to understand the implication of abandoning support of K/M lenses with no technical ( and no one has yet proven it was a cost issue either) reason to do so. They have crossed

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
The capture has nothing to do with the lensmount. There are no new lenses or lens features on this camera. Why do you propose that it being a digital camera prevented the K/M support when there is nothing new going on with regard to the cameras lens mount, just part of it is missing. Sorely

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