Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence What makes the American public health system, so much better than any other countries? Never said it was so much better, but here in the Detroit area we hear horror stories about Canadians having to wait

Re: PESO - what bird is this?

2007-01-10 Thread David Mann
Looks like a waxeye (also known as silvereye). http://www.nzbirds.com/birds/tauhou.html - Dave On Jan 10, 2007, at 3:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Good shot. It looks like the bird we call a goldfinch up here. Decent bokeh for a mirror lens. On Jan 9, 2007, at 9:11 PM, J and K Messervy

Re: OT Question (was Re: OT Is returning a phone messagereallythatcomplicated)

2007-01-10 Thread David Mann
On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Bob W wrote: Scots English Isn't that an oxymoron? - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO: Show Pony

2007-01-10 Thread David Mann
On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:09 PM, mike wilson wrote: Did you happen to get any of the Holden (GM) EFIJY concept car? And people have difficulty with _American_ spelling? Considering the styling of Holden cars, that name badge would be by far the most interesting thing about it. - Dave --

Re: OT Is returning a phone message really that complicated

2007-01-10 Thread David Mann
On Jan 10, 2007, at 2:18 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: The best I heard is registering the phone in the dog's name. They knew immediately when it was a telemarketer. Good trick. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santos_L._Halper I remember a guy a long time ago who registered his car in the name of

Re: OT: Has anyone photographed, or at least seen, this UFO?

2007-01-10 Thread David Mann
On Jan 10, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote: It is supposed to be the brightest comet in many decades. That must be why it's raining here (is it even visible from the southern hemisphere anyway?) - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread David Mann
On Jan 10, 2007, at 5:15 PM, David Savage wrote: My point is, I happen to believe in controls on handguns. Paraphrasing Dogbert: I believe everyone should have guns. However, only I should be allowed to have ammunition. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Bob W
That claim is often overstated. The 1689 bill says this: That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law which is a long way from the claim that there is an absolute right for anybody to have guns. Even the 2nd amendment

Re: Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread DagT
Fra: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course guns don't cause crime, criminals do. Just like guns don't kill people. Cheers, Dave Note to Tom: here I go again... Guns don't kill people; bullets do. Guns don't kill

RE: OT Question (was Re: OT Is returning a phonemessagereallythatcomplicated)

2007-01-10 Thread Bob W
Scots English Isn't that an oxymoron? nope, it's a dialect. Ask Rabbie Burns and Robert Louis Stevenson. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread mike wilson
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/09 Tue PM 10:30:35 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence On 9/1/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Pull your head out of your ass and learn something about us from someone other than your country's

Way off topic: English usage

2007-01-10 Thread Don Williams
From the LA Times today: Shadow's anti-depressant medication helped cure the cat of urinating 'outside of the (litter) box.' (Brian Vander Brug / LAT) Don -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 --

Re: RAW workflow (was: introduction)

2007-01-10 Thread John Whittingham
The real test is how they appear in prints. Yes absolutely. My Epson 1290S is in for service at the moment though. How do you compare the sharpening in ACR to C1? I never seem to be able to get a truly sharp image using the controls in ACR, no big deal if I'm going to open the image in PS

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Digital Image Studio wrote: series lenses certainly does not limit my ability to manual focus. In fact I much prefer the consistency and feel of the the focus ring grips on the A series lenses if I'm to be honest. This is simply my opinion of course. And I prefer to MF

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I take pictures, I don't wax ecstatic over how many lenses I've got or how wonderful the old shit was. sick of this nonsense Then move to a different thread. This is a Pentax list and ecstasy over our Pentax equipment is on topic. Kostas --

RE: OT Question (was Re: OT Is returning a phonemessagereallythatcomplicated)

2007-01-10 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Bob W wrote: Scots English Isn't that an oxymoron? nope, it's a dialect. Ask Rabbie Burns and Robert Louis Stevenson. Ask Ally next door, ken! Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread mike wilson
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/10 Wed AM 03:28:03 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence Nativism is a form of xenophobia. Ken describes assimilation. Those who don't wish to assimilate should go to Canada... No. I

Re: What's in a Pentax image file (2007 edition) ?

2007-01-10 Thread mike wilson
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm particularly interested in information about the DS2/DL2, and about the K100D/K110D, and how these differ from the DS. As I'm possibly the only list member with the highly exclusive DL/2, I'll get an output file to you some time this week.

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-10 Thread cbwaters
A Banker whose name is Cassino? Right... CW ;) - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:43 PM Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? Borrowing Doug's words, I'm a reformed photographer. Before

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
But the New York Times is probably the most liberal daily newspaper in the U.S. They always take the side of the oppressed minority if they can. On the other hand, they don't ignore inconvenient facts. Considering the source I wouldn't call this history rewritten by the victors. The article

Re: Introduction (Raw work flow)

2007-01-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Agreed. For example, I find it useless in most situations to try to reproduce the exact temperature of the light. For some shots, I want a warm look, for others, something colder. What the finished photographs communicates is the important element. To me, what was really there is

Re: Way off topic: English usage

2007-01-10 Thread cbwaters
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The kitty knows. - Original Message - From: Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:58 AM Subject: Way off topic: English usage From the LA Times today: Shadow's

Re: HP B9180 Printer

2007-01-10 Thread Peter McIntosh
Charles Wilson wrote: Dear All, Thinking about getting the HP B9180 printer and wondered if any one here had had any experiences with it. Regards Charles Wilson Sydney Australia Hi Charles, I've been thinking about this printer too. I found this link -

Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-10 Thread Thibouille
Well in A mode it should read the parameters from the body *correctly*. If then I want to override that's my problem but it should set the parameters correctly at first. Also, I don't see why I couldn't use A flash mode when I use anything else than M camera mode. This si very stupid and BTW if I

Re: OT Is returning a phone message really that complicated

2007-01-10 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 10/01/07, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember a guy a long time ago who registered his car in the name of his 4-year-old daughter so he could get away with speeding tickets. You've probably already guessed that it didn't work. A feline was recently issued a credit card with a

RE: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
You missed the entire point of posts and that was the topic was limited to the MANUAL FOCUS TACTILE FEEL of these Pentax MF lens series ( optical qualities and size / weight issues were not part of the discusssion so your points regarding that are moot ). I dont care that some of the A are plastic

Re: OT: Occupations?

2007-01-10 Thread David Savage
Har! :-) Pull his arm and he leak's money. Dave :-) On 1/10/07, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Banker whose name is Cassino? Right... CW ;) - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, January 09,

Re: Introduction (Raw work flow)

2007-01-10 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 10/01/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not photography, that's creating a recording of a subject. You have to learn to trust your eyes and aesthetics, and develop the ability to see, to do photography. Wow, I didn't realize that this was the case. -- Rob Studdert

RE: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
You are an idiot if you cant even understand the topic. I didnt post anything about AF lenses, I posted the differences in Pentax MF lenses and with MF lenses the MF feel is important because thats a key user interface to the lens. If you dont use MF lenses, then you would best be served by

RE: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
why do you like the short MF throw? If it's to focus real fast, isnt that partially what AF is for? I do not like MF lenses with short throw, Pentax only did that on MF lenses where they had to like MACROs were there was a very long extension needed. the shorter the throw, the worse the feel

Re: Introduction (Raw work flow)

2007-01-10 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: You need to look at more good pictures then. Not necessarily photographs either. Great advice! I'm very fortunate to live within walking distance of a good art museum (the Carnegie) and I find looking at paintings to be quite instructive. They had an exhibit of Hudson River

Re: PESO:industrial fireworks overZurich

2007-01-10 Thread David J Brooks
Very dramatic Nice Dave Quoting Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The industrial surrounding and the nearly absence of colors makes this photo a little bit different from the usual fireworks shot for me. Pentax SFXn, Pentax A70-210mm, Konica Centuria 100 film, tripod and cable remote ,

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 10/01/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sir, I wasnt talking to you, I was talking to someone who already said he PREFERRED the focus feel of the K/M/M42 but then said it detract from the A usage. Thats contradictory. John, I know it may be a difficult concept for you to grasp

LG L204WT - good one

2007-01-10 Thread Roman
http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/l204wt.jhtml When I tried to calibrate my 5 year old 19 NEC CRT monitor few weeks ago I couldn't get it done right. CRT seemed tired and I had a choice of either make overexposed photos based on a visual judgement or purchase new monitor. I found this

Re: LG L204WT - good one

2007-01-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Roman, it sounds awfully similar to my Philips monitor. On 1/10/07, Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/l204wt.jhtml When I tried to calibrate my 5 year old 19 NEC CRT monitor few weeks ago I couldn't get it done right. CRT seemed tired and I had a choice

Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........

2007-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
jim wrote: On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:35:10 -0500, Adam Maas wrote: Potentially, since their lens protocol is a fairly blatant copy of the EOS protocol. IIRC they originally tried to licence EF mount. got turned down and decided to use a K-mount derived Bayonet on a mount that's otherwise

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well said, Bob I'm not trimming a word of your response just in case anyone may have missed it. Shel [Original Message] From: Bob Sullivan JCO, You're blowing things far out of proportion. The focus feel of the A lenses is very similar to the M's, K's, and screw mounts,

Re: Introduction (Raw work flow)

2007-01-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
And how did you, or do you, deal with BW? Youir comments suggest that you're not a photographer but some kind of technician. Shel Cory Papenfuss wrote: ... I am quite in the minority as a technical photographer as opposed to an artsy photographer. Most are the latter and whatever

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Agreed - when I was last in Canada there was a news story on the radio about a police officer having been shot. Maybe it was in Toronto, but I don't really recall. Shel [Original Message] From: Christian Gun or rifle, whatever it's called, they exist in Canada contrary to frank's

Re: Fast and wide for a K100D

2007-01-10 Thread Cory Papenfuss
I have a new K100D, and am looking for a fast, wide (roughly 12mm) lens. Any suggestions? I've been thinking about the 16mm Zenitar fisheye lens. From what I have seen, it comes in several versions. As a Pentax K mount, with the aperature lever, and an M42 screw mount, amoung others. Both

Re: Introduction (Raw work flow)

2007-01-10 Thread Cory Papenfuss
And how did you, or do you, deal with BW? Occasionally. Youir comments suggest that you're not a photographer but some kind of technician. Shel I may have overstated my position somewhat, but I personally find endless tweaking on the computer irritating and circuitous. My

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: PESO - American Fence That claim is often overstated. The 1689 bill says this: That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law which is a long way from the

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence But the New York Times is probably the most liberal daily newspaper in the U.S. They always take the side of the oppressed minority if they can. On the other hand, they don't ignore inconvenient facts.

Re: Introduction (Raw work flow)

2007-01-10 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 11/01/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how did you, or do you, deal with BW? Youir comments suggest that you're not a photographer but some kind of technician. I'm a bit confused and surprised at some of the comments relating to Cory's posts. Whether somebody is making

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread K.Takeshita
On 1/09/07 10:59 PM, David Savage, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What makes the American public health system, so much better than any other countries? It is actually not so much of that. Truth is; Canada has a universal health care system and all health care is essentially free. Federal

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2 John, I know it may be a difficult concept for you to grasp but it's really very basic, when you post anything to the list you are effectively talking to everyone. Secondly there is really no

Re: Introduction (Raw work flow)

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: Introduction (Raw work flow) On 11/01/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how did you, or do you, deal with BW? Youir comments suggest that you're not a photographer but some kind of technician. I'm a bit

Re: LG L204WT - good one

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Roman Subject: LG L204WT - good one http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/l204wt.jhtml When I tried to calibrate my 5 year old 19 NEC CRT monitor few weeks ago I couldn't get it done right. CRT seemed tired and I had a choice of either make overexposed

OT - Hot Chocolate Recipe

2007-01-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Anyone got a recipe that they like for hot chocolate. It's cold @ Casa Belinkoff these mornings, and I'm not satisfied with the various recipes and techniques I have here for hot chocolate. Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes, he has ... You are an idiot if you cant even understand the topic. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb Has he called anyone an idiot yet in this thread? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT - Hot Chocolate Recipe

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: OT - Hot Chocolate Recipe Anyone got a recipe that they like for hot chocolate. It's cold @ Casa Belinkoff these mornings, and I'm not satisfied with the various recipes and techniques I have here for hot chocolate. I'm not

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread David Savage
On 1/10/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has he called anyone an idiot yet in this thread? William Robb Yep. And the caps lock key got stuck again too. Dave ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: K.Takeshita Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence So, what's really happening is everyone who flocks to U.S. From Canada for health care for whatever reason is all wealthy people who can afford the U.S. Service which is awfully expensive, or in desperate

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2 Yes, he has ... You are an idiot if you cant even understand the topic. Try mute agreement, he might stop the personal attacks. Or, apply the internet rule about Adolf Hitler to JCO. As soon as he

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread David Savage
On 1/10/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interestingly, the Americans seem to be flocking to Canadian pharmacies to take advantage of our much lower drug costs. Does the Canadian government subsidise drug's like they do in Oz? Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT - Hot Chocolate Recipe

2007-01-10 Thread Christian
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Anyone got a recipe that they like for hot chocolate. It's cold @ Casa Belinkoff these mornings, and I'm not satisfied with the various recipes and techniques I have here for hot chocolate. Steamed (frothed) milk with a dark chocolate square dropped in and melted.

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Has Mr. Hitler ever posted to the PDML? Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb Try mute agreement, he might stop the personal attacks. Or, apply the internet rule about Adolf Hitler to JCO. As soon as he enters a thread, it's effectively over. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread David Savage
Thanks for that Ken. Our public health system is similar. You can medical treatment free but the waiting lists are long for elective procedures (joint replacements etc.). But, if you can afford private health insurance, you can basically pick your doctor private hospital if needs be. Which

Re: OT - Hot Chocolate Recipe

2007-01-10 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/10/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone got a recipe that they like for hot chocolate. It's cold @ Casa Belinkoff these mornings, and I'm not satisfied with the various recipes and techniques I have here for hot chocolate. Yep. This one's a little work, but it's worth it.

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Adam Maas
David Savage wrote: On 1/10/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interestingly, the Americans seem to be flocking to Canadian pharmacies to take advantage of our much lower drug costs. Does the Canadian government subsidise drug's like they do in Oz? Cheers, Dave Yes, to an

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Doug Brewer
David Savage wrote: On 1/10/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interestingly, the Americans seem to be flocking to Canadian pharmacies to take advantage of our much lower drug costs. Does the Canadian government subsidise drug's like they do in Oz? Cheers, Dave The Canadian

Re: OT - Hot Chocolate Recipe

2007-01-10 Thread David Savage
Melt some really good quality dark chocolate (70%+ cocoa content) in full cream milk with a few of drops of vanilla in a saucepan (don't boil the milk). Stir constantly until the chocolate has melted. For variety add some Cinnamon, nutmeg or some finely chopped fresh chili (I haven't tried this

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:02 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: ... This is a Pentax list and ecstasy over our Pentax equipment is on topic. Excessive ecstasy over equipment is a sign that your priorities are out of whack. On this list, it seems to be an indicator that needed professional help

Re: OT: Has anyone photographed, or at least seen, this UFO?

2007-01-10 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 9:17 PM +1300 1/10/07, David Mann wrote: On Jan 10, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote: It is supposed to be the brightest comet in many decades. That must be why it's raining here (is it even visible from the southern hemisphere anyway?) I think it will only be visible from the

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread David Savage
At 11:58 PM 10/01/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I LOVE THE FEEL OF K-MOUNT LENSES. I HATE THE FEEL OF A-SERIES LENSES. Maybe some K-Y Jelly might help? Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread David Savage
On 1/10/07, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Savage wrote: On 1/10/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interestingly, the Americans seem to be flocking to Canadian pharmacies to take advantage of our much lower drug costs. Does the Canadian government subsidise drug's

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Bob Sullivan wrote: ... I sure wish I could find an A28/2.0. ... If you can find two, let me know. I have been looking for an A28/2 since I bought the *ist DS. I've seen exactly two of them for sale in two years, and 'missed it by *that* much' on the auctions. Pentax: PLEASE make a

Re: OT - Hot Chocolate Recipe

2007-01-10 Thread Tom Reese
I suggest that you add a stiff dose of peppermint schnappes to whatever recipe you're using now -- Original message -- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone got a recipe that they like for hot chocolate. It's cold @ Casa Belinkoff these mornings, and

Printing (on a budget)

2007-01-10 Thread Thibouille
For quite a time I'm considering printing myself my shots but being on a budget I couldn't decide what to do. I'm not (for now at least) printing much, really. 1/ I saw what a little Canon Selphy can do and honestly I fell on my bottom. Pretty good IMO. Directly from K10D using Pictbridge... very

Re: Introduction (Raw work flow)

2007-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 10, 2007, at 5:56 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: I may have overstated my position somewhat, but I personally find endless tweaking on the computer irritating and circuitous. My photography style ends as it did when shot film... once the shutter is pressed. All of the technical (lens

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread Christian
David Savage wrote: Which raises another question, how expensive is private health insurance? As far as I know, it doesn't exist in Canada. In the US, working for a decent company that provides several health insurance plans, it can be anywhere from free for an individual in a basic plan, to

Re: OT - Hot Chocolate Recipe

2007-01-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Interesting approach to a breakfast drink ... thanks for the suggestion, Tom, but I don't drink except for an occasional taste of good wine and a beer once or twice a year. Shel [Original Message] From: (Tom Reese) I suggest that you add a stiff dose of peppermint schnappes to whatever

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread frank theriault
On 1/9/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I read, health care might be free up North, but better is debatable. Why do we always hear about so many people coming here for diagnosis? As for guns... yeah, ok, no guns in Canada? With what do you guys shoot all the bears, moose,

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread K.Takeshita
On 1/10/07 9:53 AM, David Savage, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which raises another question, how expensive is private health insurance? I am not too familiar with this point and someone else should chime in. But universal medicare is not free of course, and we pay for it. I have not looked at my

Re: Introduction (Raw work flow)

2007-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 10, 2007, at 6:23 AM, William Robb wrote: I'm a bit confused and surprised at some of the comments relating to Cory's posts. Whether somebody is making photographs to create art or records surely they are still a photographer if they control how or what is being photographed? By

Re: OT - Hot Chocolate Recipe

2007-01-10 Thread mike wilson
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/10 Wed PM 02:26:36 GMT To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT - Hot Chocolate Recipe Anyone got a recipe that they like for hot chocolate. It's cold @ Casa Belinkoff these mornings, and I'm not satisfied with the various recipes and

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I had one, and - not anticipating getting a DSLR - I sold it. Got a good price for it, but have since come to regret having sold it. So, that makes three of us who'd like that lens. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Bob Sullivan wrote: ... I sure wish I could find an

Re: Introduction (Raw work flow)

2007-01-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, let me then amend my post: I think he's more a technician than a photographer concerned with the aesthetics and creativity involved in photographing a subject. I believe Mr.Papanfuss has stated that as well, at least to some degree. Further - and this just may be me - I don't recall ever

Re: OT - Hot Chocolate Recipe

2007-01-10 Thread Tom Reese
Oops sorry I missed the breakfast part. -- Original message -- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting approach to a breakfast drink ... thanks for the suggestion, Tom, but I don't drink except for an occasional taste of good wine and a beer once or

RE: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
whats well said here that changes anything I posted? I never stated that A series were unfocussable or overall not so good . What I did state and stand by what I stated, is that the mechanical precison of the A series is worse, not as good, inferior, to the earlier manual focus series Pentax

Re: OT: Has anyone photographed, or at least seen, this UFO?

2007-01-10 Thread Bob Shell
On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070109.html -- Technically that's not a UFO. We know what it is. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread frank theriault
On 1/9/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I believe knarf wrote no guns. Long guns IS guns and they kill just as good, if not better than, hand guns. I loved Bowling for Columbine. (flame retardant suit: ON). :-) As I said, I was joking (had no idea it would spark this debate. In

RE: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Whos all caps quote post is that? its a fake, in case anyone doesnt know, not mine certainly. Just to make things VERY clear, I didnt post that and I didnt call you an idiot for that reason at all, shall I repost why, no, everyone knows why, because you are saying you dont have any need for MF

RE: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
No it not as simple as me posting to the entire list. When I posted that reply, it was a reply to specific comments made by someone else, and was not directed at everyone just because its a public forum, it was directed specifically at him. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Yes, I have, only after he says my posts are nonsense and then uses AF lenses examples as the reason why and it wasnt even about AF lenses. If your posts are idiotic, you get the honor of being called an idiot. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: eggs for photos

2007-01-10 Thread ann sanfedele
Actually, Craigslist can be kinda like that, Walter ann Walter Hamler wrote: Hi Pentaxians I just have eaten 3 ultrafresh eggs out of 6 I got today as some sort of payment for a few photos I made last summer. Hey Markus, that sound like the good old days to me!! That was the way folks got

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Excessive ecstasy over equipment is a sign that your priorities are out of whack. Is there such a thing as non-excessive ecstasy? By the way, passing judgement on people's priorities is out of whack. etc. Stated over and over again, obsessively

Re: OT - Hot Chocolate Recipe

2007-01-10 Thread Don Williams
And keep the insulin handy! D Scott Loveless wrote: On 1/10/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone got a recipe that they like for hot chocolate. It's cold @ Casa Belinkoff these mornings, and I'm not satisfied with the various recipes and techniques I have here for hot

Re: OT Is returning a phone message really that complicated

2007-01-10 Thread Bob Shell
On Jan 9, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: I registered my home phone in a totally fictitious name. Anyone who asks for that person only hears the click as I hang up. A friend of mine always did that. He used the name Noah Vail ;-) One of my pseudonyms is Bendt Dikk Hansen. Bob --

RE: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Well MR, I ignore JCO, but refuse to stop insulting him Robb, he called my posts nonsense and proceeded with a very dumb, non factual argument explaining why. If he doesnt want to be called an idiot, I suggest he be able to back up his nonsense claims with a logical factual post first. jco

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread frank theriault
On 1/9/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty much like being American, but with better health care.. knarF, Surely you jest. Actually, I was joking. There are many more significant differences. Our large francophone population along with the way we deal with

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:03 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: etc. Stated over and over again, obsessively and without reason. As I keep saying, I have applied a solution to the above problem, one which lets me enjoy the other postings. Absolutely. I only see those incoherent ravings because

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-A 35mm f/2

2007-01-10 Thread Don Williams
I made a filter for JCO almost a year ago and it's still in place. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Has Mr. Hitler ever posted to the PDML? Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb Try mute agreement, he might stop the personal attacks. Or, apply the internet rule about Adolf

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread frank theriault
On 1/10/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Savage wrote: Which raises another question, how expensive is private health insurance? As far as I know, it doesn't exist in Canada.snip Actually, it does. Many workplaces have health plans, and one can purchase them privately (many

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Life is not a play. in the US a rifle hanging over a fire place will hang there until it rusts. Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence Hand guns don't cause crime, if that were true once Great Britain banned

Re: Printing (on a budget)

2007-01-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 10, 2007, at 7:14 AM, Thibouille wrote: For quite a time I'm considering printing myself my shots but being on a budget I couldn't decide what to do. I'm not (for now at least) printing much, really. 1/ I saw what a little Canon Selphy can do and honestly I fell on my bottom. Pretty

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
History is written by the victors, it is re-written two or three generations later to show the flaws, long after the principals are dead and can no longer defend themselves. Cynically I see that as being why the judgment of history usually waits about 100 years. By then no one really cares.

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
There are very few people in the US who feel the need to use them either. DagT wrote: Fra: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course guns don't cause crime, criminals do. Just like guns don't kill people. Cheers, Dave Note to

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
The right pre-dates the act. The act was to keep a Catholic King from ever disarming Protestants. (No one can ever seem to keep Religion or Politics out of Statute Law). If you read the commentaries about the second amendment when it was originally written you'll find that the assumption was

Re: OT - Hot Chocolate Recipe

2007-01-10 Thread Norm Baugher
Here's what I suggest you try: Start with at least 80% dark chocolate 1 cup of creamed milk 2 drops of vanilla extract large mixing bowl 2 eggs (whites only) 1 lb of sugar 2 tablespoons of Tabasco black decker 3 hp mixer 1 can yellow corn (sweet) 2 gallons of cheap red wine 1 can spicy hot chili

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