Re: Now I'm testing too...

2014-04-08 Thread mike wilson
This one came through normally. On 08/04/2014, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: In the other thread, Mike mentioned that my posts were suddenly going to his spam folder. As I'm using an email from my own domain, and not Yahoo, this seems odd. Anyone else getting my posts in

Re: Test

2014-04-08 Thread mike wilson
Started 5th April. I've been telling my spambot (or whatever it is that governs this at my ISP) that you are not spam but the rule is not taking, for some reason. Same for Rick and John Sessoms. Brian's seems to have been an aberrant message. On 08/04/2014, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread mike wilson
Not to prosyletise too much; you really should try Ubuntu. Download the installation iso from Ubuntu.com and try it running from a disk before you install. Unless there are specific Windows-only apps that you need, just about everything you want can be run as an equivalent. Firefox and T'bird

Re: Leaping Tiger

2014-04-08 Thread Alan C
I've been like that all my life too. I always seem to be eating yet stay thin. Fat-free milk may taste better but it's bad for your cholesterol level as are other saturated fats. Alan C -Original Message- From: David Mann Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 7:54 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Henk Terhell
Agree Linux Ubuntu is the way to to go to wipe off XP on your old PC and feel comfortable about these XP hazards. However I soon got tired of the interface of Ubuntu and switched now to the light-weight Ubuntu version Lubuntu on both an old desktop and a laptop. LibreOffice and all of the

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Henk Terhell hterh...@chello.nl: Agree Linux Ubuntu is the way to to go to wipe off XP on your old PC and feel comfortable about these XP hazards. However I soon got tired of the interface of Ubuntu and switched now to the light-weight Ubuntu version Lubuntu on both an old desktop

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Henk Terhell
For me Vista was quite OK until it got slow and finally crashed. Win 8 is also not bad but I got the classic desktop with the $ 5 Start8 utility (so at least I know how to switch off the PC). Win 8 (on an i7 processor with NVDIA GT-640 graphic card) handles Lightroom well. I think the file

Re: Leaping Tiger

2014-04-08 Thread knarf
I think it's a wonderful series. I agree with Bruce, looks like motion blur which I'm fine with. Very dynamic. The last photo, nice and sharp with those big hunting eyes really sets it all off beautifully. Lovely tabby, btw! Looks like lots of wild left in him. Cheers, frank On 6 April,

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2014-04-08 Thread Jack Davis
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Re: Peso: Breezy Spring

2014-04-08 Thread Jack Davis
Thank you, David! Jack - Original Message - From: David Mann dmann...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 10:07 PM Subject: Re: Peso: Breezy Spring I really like that. Cheers, Dave FWIW I just pulled about 20 threads out of my Gmail

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Mark C
That is exactly what I did with my only XP machine. I originally installed Ubuntu and then switched over to the LXDE desktop. Now it says Lubuntu when it is booting. VueScan works just like it does on XP (which it should) - I scanned eight 35mm rolls via VueScan and the LS8000 under Lubuntu

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Mark C
I'm not a techie but I doubt your computer will turn into a pumpkin at midnight. But you might want to pick up a pie crust just in case From what I read it looks like WinXP will simply start to become more and more insecure as new vulnerabilities are found and not patched. And there might

Test from Philly

2014-04-08 Thread Rick Womer
PESO post last evening didn't go through; let's see if anything got fixed overnight. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Test from Philly

2014-04-08 Thread Paul
Nope - no change...still seeing you and Jack in the spam folder. -p On 4/8/2014 8:00 AM, Rick Womer wrote: PESO post last evening didn't go through; let's see if anything got fixed overnight. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Test from Philly

2014-04-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, I should report that I can see your message, but on top of it, in my Google Mail web interface it shows a yellow banner saying This message was not sent to Spam because of a filter you created So, Rick, it would seem you do have a problem. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Rick Womer

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I suppose Ubuntu is fun if you’re a techy and like to play with computers. But if you’re a photographer, an operating system that won’t run the best image processing software sucks dead dog dick. Paul On Apr 8, 2014, at 2:31 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Not to prosyletise

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I searched my C: drive and found a file called firewall.cpl in the i386 folder. Is that telling me I have a hardware firewall? Trend Titatium does say it is internet security so I guess that means it isn't a hardware firewall. I've ahd it a few years and have no viri problems - once it found

Re: Leaping Tiger

2014-04-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
Years back, I was able to eat anything I wanted and not gain weight as long as I ran 4 to 5 miles most days. Combine that with a reduced intake and I lost weight. But all that running, even with very good shoes eventually led to both knees being replaced. -Original Message- From: IB

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-08 Thread Igor Roshchin
Tim, Thanks a lot for the heads-up. Apparently, I saw it here before I saw it through the proper channels. Strictly speaking it is not a zero-day, as it was introduced in the version 1.0.1, and the earlier versions are not vulnerable. (I haven't seen any discussion of this yet, but I wouldn't

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
Except that apparently it isn't actually possible to upgrade from XP to Windoze7. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7#T1=tab01 : To upgrade your PC from Windows XP to Windows 7, you'll need to : select the Custom option during Windows 7

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-08 Thread Tim Bray
Yeah, you’re right; e.g. my own tbray.org server is fine because it’s been up for 1080 days and has openssl 0.9.8. My estimation of NSA’s cleverness is a little lower than yours, I bet it was a surprise to them too. Someone should ask Snowden ;) On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Igor Roshchin

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
Do those secrets include CREDIT CARD DATA from on-line purchases? On 4/8/2014 1:53 AM, Tim Bray wrote: Summary: A programming error allows bad guys to steal secrets on a HUGE number of websites; geeks are working late all over the internet closing the barn doors. We won’t know for a while how

Re: Now I'm testing too...

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
I'm *NOT* looking forward to switching from Yahoo. I *AM* going to be doing so. But, I'm not going to worry about it until I see what the real fall out from the end of XP support is going to mean for me personally. I've still got a while before my years subscription to Yahoo Plus runs out. I

Re: Test

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
On 4/8/2014 2:20 AM, mike wilson wrote: Started 5th April. I've been telling my spambot (or whatever it is that governs this at my ISP) that you are not spam but the rule is not taking, for some reason. Same for Rick and John Sessoms. Brian's seems to have been an aberrant message. Can you

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-08 Thread Tim Bray
It’s potentially much, much worse than that. They include the signing keys that web sites use to make https: addresses work. So the bad guys can in principle pretend to be https://your-bank.com and steal not just your credit card number but everything. Note that not every bank would have been

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
This machine is on at least it's 3rd motherboard. I think the latest mother board is from 2007. I'm not sure how old it actually is, but at least some of the parts date back into the 20th century. It's still got the certificate of authenticity sticker for a Windoze98 Second Edition Upgrade on

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-08 Thread David J Brooks
how to you know what version one has. My firefox is SSL 3 Dave On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: In the unlikely event that any of you run https-enabled web sites and haven't visited heartbleed.com today, get thee over there post-haste and find out what

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-08 Thread Mark Roberts
David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: how to you know what version one has. My firefox is SSL 3 This is for web servers, Dave, not web browsers. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I searched my C: drive and found a file called firewall.cpl in the i386 folder. Is that telling me I have a hardware firewall? No. A hardware firewall is a box in between your computer and your cable/DSL modem. Typically it's a router. -- PDML

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
The NSA ain't all that clever, but some of the contractors they hire might be. On 4/8/2014 11:20 AM, Tim Bray wrote: Yeah, you’re right; e.g. my own tbray.org server is fine because it’s been up for 1080 days and has openssl 0.9.8. My estimation of NSA’s cleverness is a little lower than

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
That's the Windows Firewall that's built in to Windoze. It's better than nothing. Windows XP Click Start - Run - Type firewall.cpl into the Run command box Click OK Set Windows Firewall to On Click OK It's pretty self explanatory. On 4/8/2014 10:10 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
I ask about the credit cards, because I went on-line yesterday to buy repair parts for one of my lawn-care power tools paid for the parts with a credit card. That was before I saw your original post. On 4/8/2014 11:40 AM, Tim Bray wrote: It’s potentially much, much worse than that. They

Re: Test from Philly

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
On 4/8/2014 9:00 AM, Rick Womer wrote: PESO post last evening didn't go through; let's see if anything got fixed overnight. Came through on RoadRunner, but not on Yahoo. I haven't been able to send from Yahoo since some time yesterday. I'm back to getting the error that says I need to enter

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
That does bring up some interesting questions: 1. Why won't Adobe make versions of Lightroom Photoshop for Linux? 2. IIRC, there used to be a windoze emulator for Linux called WINE that was good enough that some earlier versions would run on it. Whatever happened to that? 3. Mac OS is based

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Mark C
I can't say re Adobe but I used a thumbnail program called ThumbsPlus and checked on a Linux version of that program. From their FAQ: ...snip... One thing that is bothersome about a Linux port is that so many of the Linux users who have written have exclaimed how wonderful it is to have a

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Mark C
DarkTable? http://www.darktable.org/ On 4/8/2014 12:51 PM, John Sessoms wrote: PS: I'm pretty sure there's a Lightroom clone for Linux - can't remember the name of it off the top of my head right now - that works a bit better than Gimp does as a Photoshop clone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:51 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: That does bring up some interesting questions: 1. Why won't Adobe make versions of Lightroom Photoshop for Linux? Too much development cost, not enough return on investment. Linux users hate to pay for anything. 3. Mac

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2014-04-08 Thread Jack Davis
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Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-08 Thread steve harley
on 2014-04-08 8:51 Igor Roshchin wrote Strictly speaking it is not a zero-day, as it was introduced in the version 1.0.1, and the earlier versions are not vulnerable. it does seem to be a zero-day threat; zero-day refers to the timing of the announcement rather than to what versions of

Re: Leaping Tiger

2014-04-08 Thread Alan C
Sorry to hear that, Ken. I sure hope I'm not headed that way. No sign of anything yet I've almost circumnavigated the earth twice. I know of runners who have had hip replacements still run -Original Message- From: Kenneth Waller Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 4:31 PM To:

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
It is set to on already - very self explanatory :-) ann On 4/8/2014 12:25, John Sessoms wrote: That's the Windows Firewall that's built in to Windoze. It's better than nothing. Windows XP Click Start - Run - Type firewall.cpl into the Run command box Click OK Set Windows

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2014-04-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I can see you On 4/8/2014 13:31, Jack Davis wrote: test -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
So therefore it is a physical thingy I need to buy I gather. I may get some neighborly help soon - fingers crossed ann On 4/8/2014 12:18, Mark Roberts wrote: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I searched my C: drive and found a file called firewall.cpl in the i386 folder. Is that

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Bill
On 08/04/2014 11:55 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: So therefore it is a physical thingy I need to buy I gather. I may get some neighborly help soon - fingers crossed A hardware firewall (router), resist the temptation to go wireless if you can, turn off the wireless radio on the router, and tell

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
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2014-04-08 Thread Jack Davis
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Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-08 Thread Igor Roshchin
Tue Apr 8 13:39:40 EDT 2014 steve harley on 2014-04-08 8:51 Igor Roshchin wrote Strictly speaking it is not a zero-day, as it was introduced in the version 1.0.1, and the earlier versions are not vulnerable. it does seem to be a zero-day threat; zero-day refers to the timing of the

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-08 Thread Igor Roshchin
Tue Apr 8 11:20:38 EDT 2014 Tim Bray wrote: My estimation of NSA's cleverness is a little lower than yours, ... you mean they are even more stupid than I? ;-) Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Bob W-PDML
It's important to keep the cosmic paranoia/smugness ying-yang tiddly-i-po thing in balance. For every Mac user you need 1024 windows users or the entire universe will go out of whack. It's a bit like Buddhists spinning a prayer wheel to keep the earth turning. B On 8 Apr 2014, at 19:07,

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 09:25:29PM -0700, John Celio wrote: Just to add my 2?: Windows XP is an incredibly old operating system by today's standards. Yeah, Vista and Windows 8 were/are pretty awful, but Windows 7 is great. You really don't need to fear upgrading to 7, especially since you can

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2014-04-08 Thread Jack Davis
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2014-04-08 Thread Jack Davis
Great! Bless your heart!! I changed to comcast.net to avoid further PDML posts going into SPAM. What a 24 hrs chasing the problem. WOW Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 10:55 AM

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
DOn't worry I will NEVER go wireless thanks for the other info a On 4/8/2014 14:01, Bill wrote: On 08/04/2014 11:55 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: So therefore it is a physical thingy I need to buy I gather. I may get some neighborly help soon - fingers crossed A hardware firewall (router),

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 4/8/2014 14:23, John Francis wrote: On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 09:25:29PM -0700, John Celio wrote: Windows XP mode only works on the Professional, Enterprise Ultimate versions of Windows 7 - it does not work on the (cheaper) Home version. This means anyone wanting to go that

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2014-04-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
But maybe I'm the only one ann On 4/8/2014 14:35, Jack Davis wrote: Great! Bless your heart!! I changed to comcast.net to avoid further PDML posts going into SPAM. What a 24 hrs chasing the problem. WOW Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To:

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: It's important to keep the cosmic paranoia/smugness ying-yang tiddly-i-po thing in balance. Truer words were never spoken. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-08 Thread Mark Roberts
http://www.cnet.com/news/heartbleed-bug-undoes-web-encryption-reveals-user-passwords/ Apparently some damage already done with the leaking of passwords. Unsurprisingly, they're the passwords from a large Internet company whose name rhymes with wahoo. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread P.J. Alling
I wouldn't worry too much Ann. I used Win2K, (not to be confused with WinME), for a number of years after Microsoft dropped support. It did everything I needed it to, and only upgraded to XP when I couldn't hack the OS to get a new printer to work properly, (I was able to find adequate AV

Re: PESO - New Haven station

2014-04-08 Thread Don Guthrie
rich tones colors cool subject. Probably could do without that little dingus on the lower right side. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 5 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 18:01:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com To: Pentax- Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - New Haven

Re: PESO - The King of Parkdale

2014-04-08 Thread Don Guthrie
You have been missed. I like pretty much everything in the photo so you still have your chops by my reckoning. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 9 Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 22:42:54 -0400 From: knarfknarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - The King of

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread P.J. Alling
WinXp has a built in Firewall from Microsoft, if you don't have it enabled Windows will carp at you to either install a different firewall or start the built in firewall. The built in firewall is pretty crappy but it's better than nothing, I guess. Trend Titatium, I don't know for sure,

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread steve harley
on 2014-04-07 20:52 John Coyle wrote I still have one PC running XP (SP3) and have it behind a router firewall and anti-virus protection. Only need it to maintain absolute compatibility with some older systems I've written, where clients are still running them, so I won't upgrade it unless it

Re: New PDML ID

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
I think you're going to have to get a completely new email address that does _not_ come from Yahoo. This message came through on my Roadrunner feed, but not on the Yahoo one. On 4/8/2014 2:24 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Test -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
as I mentioned to someone, the XP firewall is up and running. I actually purchased Trend because it was recommended a couple years back by Bill Owens and it has been really good..(i.e., I aint had no viri) due for an auto renewal in about 50 days. So from a bunch of you and my initial thought

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-08 Thread Bob W-PDML
Should have gone with http://www.houyhnhnm.com. Seems obvious really. B On 8 Apr 2014, at 20:23, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.cnet.com/news/heartbleed-bug-undoes-web-encryption-reveals-user-passwords/ Apparently some damage already done with the leaking of

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread P.J. Alling
There could have been significant disruptions due to the Y2K problem, but it was very over hyped, I doubt that planes would have fallen out of the sky, and a lot of work went into making sure that those disruptions didn't happen, a lot of busy work was done that wasn't strictly necessary at

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 8 Apr 2014, at 20:46, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: There could have been significant disruptions due to the Y2K problem, but it was very over hyped, I doubt that planes would have fallen out of the sky, and a lot of work went into making sure that those disruptions

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2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
I can see your replies to Jack on my Yahoo email, but I cannot see his original messages. I can see Jack's message on my Roadrunner email, but for some reason, your last reply to Jack (this one) hasn't come through on Roadrunner yet. I think all of us who have email addresses ending in

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
On 4/8/2014 1:22 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:51 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: PS: I'm pretty sure there's a Lightroom clone for Linux - can't remember the name of it off the top of my head right now - that works a bit better than Gimp does as a Photoshop

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
On 4/8/2014 2:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Gosh, there are a bunch of paranoid folks on this mailing list. G It's not paranoia if they REALLY ARE out to get you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Wireless is pretty safe as long as it’s password protected and you use a password that is complex and differs from your other passwords. Been wireless for many years, no problems. Paul On Apr 8, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: DOn't worry I will NEVER go wireless

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread steve harley
on 2014-04-08 11:22 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote OS X is built around a Mach kernel and includes a FreeBSD UNIX command-line environment. Linux is built around a different kernel implementation, UNIX-like, and similarly includes a FreeBSD-like command-line environment. There the similarity ends.

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
I do remember a few stories from after the fact where there were billing errors due to the date not rolling over correctly. Mostly (99 and 44/100%) it got fixed in time and the few instances where it did slip through were easily quickly corrected after the fact. On 4/8/2014 3:45 PM, P.J. Alling

Re: PESO - The King of Parkdale

2014-04-08 Thread Attila Boros
He's got some professional equipment and a charismatic beard. The BW conversion looks very nice on my monitor. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:42 AM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: And we're back... This night shift is making it difficult to post and spend time on the list, especially since

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2014-04-08 Thread Jack Davis
I wondered about that. Also, I don't believe the post ever appeared on my copy of the list, but really not sure.?? What browser are you using? Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 8,

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W-PDML wrote: Should have gone with http://www.houyhnhnm.com. Seems obvious really. Their original choice, I'll admit, was none too swift. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Gerrit Visser
Probably because there is no money to be made? The FOSS crowd would want the source in public domain, free support and have a say in the future development. And then for multi varieties of Linux to boot. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of

Re: PESO - The King of Parkdale

2014-04-08 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 8 Apr 2014, at 21:29, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: He's got some professional equipment and a charismatic beard. That makes him an official religion, with charity status. The BW conversion looks very nice on my monitor. On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:42 AM, knarf

Switched from jdavi...@yahoo.com to jdavi...@comcast.net

2014-04-08 Thread Jack Davis
My posts are STILL not showing on either account.?? However, Ann did actually see a post of mine. Is she the only one? Thanks, Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: Switched from jdavi...@yahoo.com to jdavi...@comcast.net

2014-04-08 Thread Paul
still seeing you as spam -p On 4/8/2014 3:53 PM, Jack Davis wrote: My posts are STILL not showing on either account.?? However, Ann did actually see a post of mine. Is she the only one? Thanks, Jack -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Switched from jdavi...@yahoo.com to jdavi...@comcast.net

2014-04-08 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: My posts are STILL not showing on either account.?? However, Ann did actually see a post of mine. Is she the only one? This post, and the one that Ann responded to, are still From your Yahoo address, and Gmail is marking

Re: Switched from jdavi...@yahoo.com to jdavi...@comcast.net

2014-04-08 Thread steve harley
on 2014-04-08 14:53 Jack Davis wrote My posts are STILL not showing on either account.?? this message is coming from a Yahoo address and via Yahoo's servers - have you posted from that Comcast account? note that you have to subscribe that address to the list for before the messages from

Re: Switched from jdavisf8 at yahoo.com to jdavisf8 at comcast.net

2014-04-08 Thread Igor Roshchin
Jack, 1. You can see your posts via the web: http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2014-April/ or http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/ 2. The From still shows your @yahoo address. Igor Tue Apr 8 16:53:12 EDT 2014 Jack Davis jdavisf8 at yahoo.com wrote: My posts are STILL not

Re: OT - the XP doomsday thing

2014-04-08 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: That does bring up some interesting questions: 2. IIRC, there used to be a windoze emulator for Linux called WINE that was good enough that some earlier versions would run on it. Whatever happened to that? It's still around and still being

Re: New PDML ID

2014-04-08 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: Test Well, I can see it but it's still coming from the yahoo address - so I suspect others wont. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML

Re: On email from Yahoo being classified as spam

2014-04-08 Thread Igor Roshchin
John, Just in case: If you are concerned about e-mails that you are sending to PDML from your Yahoo account via Yahoo smtp servers, than the recent change described in the links posted by Matthew should not affect you. It affects only Yahoo users who are sending e-mail via smtp servers OTHER

Re: On email from Yahoo being classified as spam

2014-04-08 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Just in case: If you are concerned about e-mails that you are sending to PDML from your Yahoo account via Yahoo smtp servers, than the recent change described in the links posted by Matthew should not affect you. It

Re: On email from Yahoo being classified as spam

2014-04-08 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Just in case: If you are concerned about e-mails that you are sending to PDML from your Yahoo account via Yahoo smtp servers, than the recent change described in the links posted by

Re: On email from Yahoo being classified as spam

2014-04-08 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Just in case: If you are concerned about e-mails that you are sending to PDML from your Yahoo account via

Re: Switched from jdavi...@yahoo.com to jdavi...@comcast.net

2014-04-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I am seeing this post, but GMail place it in my Spam folder. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: My posts are STILL not showing on either account.?? However, Ann did actually see a post of

Re: Leaping Tiger

2014-04-08 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Frank. My mother used to volunteer at the animal shelter in Iowa (where she lived) and in 2010 started talking about a kitten that she really loved but did not want to adopt because he would outlive her. I urged her to go ahead and adopt him and ultimately promised to take care of him

Re: New PDML ID

2014-04-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I see your email, but GMail sticks the following warning into it: Be careful with this message. Our systems couldn't verify that this message was really sent by yahoo.com. You might want to avoid clicking links or replying with personal information. Learn more Dan Matyola

Re: On email from Yahoo being classified as spam

2014-04-08 Thread Bruce Walker
Here's another article discussing this Yahoo change. It suggests that there's a fix that email list operators may be able to implement fairly easily, depending on the list software in use of course. http://www.spamresource.com/2014/04/up-in-arms-about-yahoos-dmarc-policy.html I have no idea if

Re: On email from Yahoo being classified as spam

2014-04-08 Thread Igor Roshchin
Tue Apr 8 19:16:34 EDT 2014 Matthew Hunt wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote: Just in case: If you are concerned about e-mails that you are sending to PDML from your Yahoo account via Yahoo smtp servers, than the recent change described in the

Re: Switched from jdavi...@yahoo.com to jdavi...@comcast.net

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
On 4/8/2014 4:53 PM, Jack Davis wrote: My posts are STILL not showing on either account.?? However, Ann did actually see a post of mine. Is she the only one? Thanks, Jack I saw the previous post that Ann replied to in my RoadRunner email. It did not show up in my Yahoo email. Your

PESO - hardware

2014-04-08 Thread Bruce Walker
Another shot of the amazing Miss E ... http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/13728053545/ Seen at The Bazaar of the Bizarre in the Queen West area of Toronto, March 30th. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: On email from Yahoo being classified as spam

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
My problem with Yahoo's smtp server is separate from the other problem. But it does keep me from being able to test how the other problem might affect me. The combination of the two problems, along with Yahoo's lackadaisical contempt for PAYING customers who need support is a crock of shit. I

RE: PESO - hardware

2014-04-08 Thread Gerrit Visser
I like the asymmetry of the hair, face and outfit. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:15 PM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: PESO - hardware Another shot of the amazing Miss E ...

Re: On email from Yahoo being classified as spam

2014-04-08 Thread John Sessoms
There are two things going on here. I don't know exactly how they are related. But I know that they are. 1. Something in Yahoo's new DMARC policy is breaking email sent from mailing lists. It apparently affects *all* mailing lists, not just PDML. For Gmail users it shows up as a tag of some

Re: Peso: Breezy Spring

2014-04-08 Thread knarf
I can't find the original e-mail but Jack, I love this! Such colours! The embodiment of spring. Thanks for posting it. Cheers, frank On 8 April, 2014 1:07:20 AM EDT, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: I really like that. Cheers, Dave FWIW I just pulled about 20 threads out of my Gmail spam

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