Re: Cameras for a kid

On 3/8/2018 18:31, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:45, John Francis wrote: On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 03:47:57PM -0500, John wrote: On 3/8/2018 15:27, Mark Roberts wrote: John wrote: I think "French literature" is a euphemism for "dirty French Post Cards". For young

Re: Cameras for a kid

> On Mar 8, 2018, at 3:03 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > You described the boy, but it is important to know what (and why) he is > interested w.r.t. photography. Has he expressed his interest toward > photography? Or he just wants to have a camera to take cool selfies? > Has

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> On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > Fuji X-2S Shoulda been X-E2S. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net "What does it mean...that the world is so

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> On Mar 8, 2018, at 6:32 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > The book appears to be quite good. But I think a digital camera is a must. > Kids live online, and he’ll undoubtedly want to post digital photos. Instant > cameras are old people toys. A good phone is better than

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> On Mar 8, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> >> I would go for a used Fuji X-20 - brilliant camera to learn with. > > I have one in like new condition that I'd be more than happy

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> On Mar 8, 2018, at 3:12 PM, John wrote: > > think he'd probably get more out of the K1000, but I've been told > more than once that I'm out of touch with what kids are into today. > About all I do remember is how much it annoyed me when I was 12 to > have some geezer

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> On Mar 8, 2018, at 2:29 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > I would go for a used Fuji X-20 - brilliant camera to learn with. > > That was one of my other thoughts, Cotty. I recommended it, too. FYI, I still have the Fuji X-Q1 I

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I knew that. Paul > On Mar 8, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > >> On 8 Mar 2018, at 19:34, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> When I was learning photography and darkroom techniques I was studying long >> division and reading the Hardy Boys. I was

Re: Cameras for a kid

The book appears to be quite good. But I think a digital camera is a must. Kids live online, and he’ll undoubtedly want to post digital photos. Instant cameras are old people toys. A good phone is better than many point and shoots. My iPhone 7 allows extensive rendering options with the

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On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:45, John Francis wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 03:47:57PM -0500, John wrote: >>> On 3/8/2018 15:27, Mark Roberts wrote: >>> John wrote: >>> I think "French literature" is a euphemism for "dirty French Post Cards". For young American

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On 8 Mar 2018, at 19:34, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > When I was learning photography and darkroom techniques I was studying long > division and reading the Hardy Boys. I was ten years old. I read them when I was seven. In Sanskrit. During breaks in nuclear physics classes.

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You obviously know nothing of masochism and rope... > On 8 Mar 2018, at 18:51, mike wilson wrote: > > Your masochism knows no bounds. > >> On 08 March 2018 at 16:36 Bob W-PDML wrote: >> >> >> At the same time I was learning photography I was

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That book looks fantastic - great idea. And I like Godfrey's idea too, despite my Jesuitical tendencies. B > On 8 Mar 2018, at 17:58, Eric Weir wrote: > > > But I liked Godfrey’s suggestion of instant photography. So I also > recommended one of the Fuji Instax cameras.

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On 3/8/2018 2:44 PM, John wrote: All make my heart ache to be on the road again.  I'm with you on that! ann On 3/6/2018 21:56, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all, Uploaded a little later than I'd hoped - Jostein's surname caused the server to have conniptions...  Rob and Stan also make a

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Or National Geographic... G — And you never had to hide a Nat Geo... On Mar 8, 2018, at 1:44 PM, John Francis wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 03:47:57PM -0500, John wrote: >>> On 3/8/2018 15:27, Mark Roberts wrote: >>> John wrote: >>> I think "French literature" is a

Re: Cameras for a kid

On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 03:47:57PM -0500, John wrote: > On 3/8/2018 15:27, Mark Roberts wrote: > > John wrote: > > > > > I think "French literature" is a euphemism for "dirty French Post Cards". > > > > > > For young American boys of a certain age, the lingerie section of the > > > Sears Catalog

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Can't explain the problem but glad Ann's solution worked. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > On 08 March 2018 at 09:54 Rick Womer wrote: > > > Clever, Ann! It worked. > > Rick

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On 3/8/2018 15:27, Mark Roberts wrote: John wrote: I think "French literature" is a euphemism for "dirty French Post Cards". For young American boys of a certain age, the lingerie section of the Sears Catalog had to suffice. I think "Sears lingerie" has to be the least sexy sounding concept

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On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 8/3/18, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>When I was about that age someone bought me an Instamatic, which quickly >>frustrated me, but one of my schoolfriends had an Olympus Pen-F (the >>half-frame one) and

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On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > John wrote: > >>I think "French literature" is a euphemism for "dirty French Post Cards". >> >>For young American boys of a certain age, the lingerie section of the >>Sears Catalog had to suffice. > > I think "Sears

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John wrote: >I think "French literature" is a euphemism for "dirty French Post Cards". > >For young American boys of a certain age, the lingerie section of the >Sears Catalog had to suffice. I think "Sears lingerie" has to be the least sexy sounding concept I've ever heard of. -- Mark Roberts

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Tom Corbett & the Space Rangers here. Might have already encountered Asimov & Heinlein. No darkroom I'm afraid, but I got my first camera at age nine, a Brownie Hawkeye inherited when my Grandmother passed away. The Rexall Drug Store down the street returned processed film & prints in about 5

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I think "French literature" is a euphemism for "dirty French Post Cards". For young American boys of a certain age, the lingerie section of the Sears Catalog had to suffice. On 3/8/2018 14:26, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I think BobW and I are soul mates. When I was getting deeper into photography

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Probably a smart phone. I don't think today's kids have much use for real cameras. OTOH, if the kid's really into science, he might be interested in film and darkroom - in which case, a K1000 + SMC-P 50mm 1:1.4 might just be the ticket. If she wants him to jump right into digital, get him the

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Eric, “Alice: Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? The Cheshire Cat: That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. Alice: I don't much care where. The Cheshire Cat: Then it doesn't much matter which way you go. Alice: ...So long as I get somewhere. The Cheshire

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdlyi5mckg0 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:44 PM, John wrote: > All make my heart ache to be on the road again. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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All make my heart ache to be on the road again. On 3/6/2018 21:56, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all, Uploaded a little later than I'd hoped - Jostein's surname caused the server to have conniptions... Rob and Stan also make a long overdue appearance this month. Good to see these old faces

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Grace has done quite well with my old K7. I have a K5 with battery grip that’s looking for a new home. Paul > On Mar 8, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > >> On Mar 8, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Ken Waller wrote: >> >> Eric, whatever you wind up with

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When I was learning photography and darkroom techniques I was studying long division and reading the Hardy Boys. I was ten years old. > On Mar 8, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > I think BobW and I are soul mates. When I was getting deeper into photography

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On 8/3/18, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >When I was about that age someone bought me an Instamatic, which quickly >frustrated me, but one of my schoolfriends had an Olympus Pen-F (the >half-frame one) and we could use the school darkroom, so I learned a bit >with that. There is a

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I think BobW and I are soul mates. When I was getting deeper into photography in High School, I was studying Latin, German, Old English, Physics, Calculus, and reading S.I. Hayakawa's treatise on general semantics, "Language in Thought and Action." I'd already signed off on the French as

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Your masochism knows no bounds. > On 08 March 2018 at 16:36 Bob W-PDML wrote: > > > At the same time I was learning photography I was also starting to read > French literature... > > > On 8 Mar 2018, at 15:57, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > > > You crack

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Thanks for sharing that. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > At the same time I was learning photography I was also starting to read > French literature... > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

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> On Mar 8, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Eric, whatever you wind up with I'd suggest it have both auto capture mode > and a manual mode. With auto he can learn some of the non technical parts of > photography - composition, framing etc without getting caught

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Eric, whatever you wind up with I'd suggest it have both auto capture mode and a manual mode. With auto he can learn some of the non technical parts of photography - composition, framing etc without getting caught up in the technical side - f-stop, shutter speed etc. -Original

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At the same time I was learning photography I was also starting to read French literature... > On 8 Mar 2018, at 15:57, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > You crack me up, Bob! That's a great line ...! :-) > > When I was that age, I'd already bought my own first camera (a Minolta

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I'd start with something like a WG-3, before moving to DSLR. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > > A sister has asked me for advice on a beginning camera for her grandson. > He’s 12, intelligent,

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You crack me up, Bob! That's a great line ...! :-) When I was that age, I'd already bought my own first camera (a Minolta 16-P which cost me the grand sum of $19 at Camera Craft in New Rochelle, NY), having been given a couple of Kodak cameras before then. But I wanted something more

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Hi, Eric: My son started with a digital point & shoot. Once he was frustrated with its limitations, I began teaching him with my *istDS in manual mode. We'd go out and shoot the same things (both using the *istDS bodies), and then compare the captures. To this day, he prefers the *istDS body over

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Sounds like he needs an adult real-life lesson that will leave him feeling inadequate, unloved and in despair at the pointlessness of existence, so anything by Pentax will do. When I was about that age someone bought me an Instamatic, which quickly frustrated me, but one of my schoolfriends

Cameras for a kid

A sister has asked me for advice on a beginning camera for her grandson. He’s 12, intelligent, creative, self-disciplined—all-in-all pretty precocious about many things. I have my own thoughts, which may not be best, but wondered what y’all might recommend.

Re: March PUG - Arches - is up

On 7/3/18, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: > >View here: > >http://pug.komkon.org/ What a fabulous gallery! Well done all - hit rate was 100% - not a duffer among them ;-) All superb. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News