Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread ernreed2
Antonio said: As to the international nature of the list (and I am only mentioning it because you brought it up) I do not see what bearing this has on anything - surely in times of conflict dialogue and debate should be welcomed between those with differing opinions - the way the world

Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Ern, Having followed this list for the past year without contributing my impression was that you discussed OT topics here all the time. A. On 21 May 2004, at 14:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antonio said: As to the international nature of the list (and I am only mentioning it because you brought

Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread ernreed2
Antonio: Having followed this list for the past year without contributing my impression was that you discussed OT topics here all the time. in response to my comment: Experience has shown that most members of this list do not want inflammatory OFF-TOPIC subjects debated HERE, even if

Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread Bob Blakely
I'm getting tired of this idiot. The man said, ...inflammatory OFF-TOPIC subjects... WHAT PART OF THE WORD INFLAMMATORY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? Regards, Bob... --- No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain From:

Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Well Bob, calling someone an idiot is pretty inflammatory in most peoples book, not to mention rude. As to inflammatory topics, there is no such thing. Controversial perhaps, hotly debated certainly, but not inflammatory. In any event, all I have done is join discussions that were already

Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread Keith Whaley
Antonio Aparicio wrote: Ern, Having followed this list for the past year without contributing my impression was that you discussed OT topics here all the time. A. Yeah, you're right. Usually just long enough for everybody to climb all over the transgressor, and make him or her feel sorry they

Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread Anders Hultman
On Fri, 21 May 2004, Henri Toivonen wrote: I wasn't allowed to, during my brief encouter with the Swedish military. I'd have to register my camera with the higher officers and have every picture approved for security reasons. Was it a while ago? Yes, it was in 1990. Fourteen years

Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread Henri Toivonen
Anders Hultman wrote: On Fri, 21 May 2004, Henri Toivonen wrote: I wasn't allowed to, during my brief encouter with the Swedish military. I'd have to register my camera with the higher officers and have every picture approved for security reasons. Was it a while ago? Yes, it was

Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread Norm Baugher
aaggghh Antonio Aparicio wrote: Feroze, Why don't you take it up with the person who started the thread? As to the international nature of the list (and I am only mentioning it because you brought it up) I do not

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread Norm Baugher
aaagg Antonio Aparicio wrote: Shawn, I am willing to accept that I may be wrong, but I do not feel that is the case. The 2% figure you mention is for all computers sold in the world - Apple has a much higher market

Re: Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME Well Bob, calling someone an idiot is pretty inflammatory in most peoples book, not to mention rude. Well, Antonio, Lets take this beyond rude

Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread Rfsindg
I'm getting tired of this idiot. The man said, ...inflammatory OFF-TOPIC subjects... WHAT PART OF THE WORD INFLAMMATORY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? Regards, Bob... I'm getting tired as well. I have a new proposal. How about we each send him an individual reply... EACH and EVERY time he posts

Re: Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread John Francis
Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Why can't

Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Thats a really mature position Bob. S. But given you have been one of the prime flame throwers in this thread I am not surprised. Antonio On 21 May 2004, at 20:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting tired of this idiot. The man said, ...inflammatory OFF-TOPIC subjects... WHAT PART OF THE WORD

Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know what? I don't care. I killfiled him some time ago, when it became apparent that the signal-to-noise ratio of his contributions was as close to zero as makes no difference. Yup. 100% lossless data compression. -- Mark Roberts Photography and

Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-21 Thread Feroze Kistan
Antonio, From past experience on this and many other lists it soon degenerates into a mud slingy match. This forum is for the discussion of photography which most of the time does not involve much conflicting opinion. It is impossible to have a quiet debate on any topic that involves conflict. My

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-20 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Here we go, more controversy I am afraid, this time from a trade group for executives of 150 of America's largest corporations: WASHINGTON (AP) -- Chief executives from some of the largest U.S. companies are criticizing the technology industry in a lobbying campaign, accusing them of

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-20 Thread Bob Blakely
Who wants to write a virus for such a small population? Where's the glory? Regards, Bob... --- No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] And lack of viruses. On 20 May

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-20 Thread Norm Baugher
agg Antonio Aparicio wrote: Here we go, more controversy I am afraid

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-20 Thread Antonio Aparicio
How many millions of users does a system need before it becomes a worthy population would you say? There are plenty of OSX users out there - more than enough to produce a few viruses if they wanted. All the evidence however seems to point to the fact that it ain't easy. In fact it is so hard

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-20 Thread Norm Baugher
aagghh Antonio Aparicio wrote: a bunch of non-related photo stuff that has gone on wy to long

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-20 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Brian, The 3% you refer to is for all computers - POS, servers, cash machines, etc. etc. etc. I think you will find that in the domestic/home market it is more like 10-15%, and in certain creative sectors more like 70-80%. iPods made a nice profit for the company but so did desktops and

RE: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-20 Thread Amita Guha
Norm, just do what I did and filter out his messages. If we ignore the troll, he will go away... -Original Message- From: Norm Baugher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 4:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME

Re: Let's stop (was: Anyone still using windows ME)

2004-05-20 Thread KT Takeshita
On 5/20/04 3:13 PM, Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is what happens in free speech loving democracies. Hi Antonio, No, PDML is not the place for exercising the right of free speech. I think this is becoming too much. Each list (like PDML) has its own culture nurtured over the

Re: Let's stop (was: Anyone still using windows ME)

2004-05-20 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Hi Ken, Thanks for your comments. Antonio On 20 May 2004, at 22:33, KT Takeshita wrote: On 5/20/04 3:13 PM, Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is what happens in free speech loving democracies. Hi Antonio, No, PDML is not the place for exercising the right of free speech. I think this is

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-20 Thread John Francis
With all due respect: you are biased. You are incompletely informed. And I think I speak for the majority of the Pentax Discuss community when I say that I'm tired of seeing your digest-filling posts on this topic. You've ridden this horse far far too long. It's time to get off the horse and

Why don't you all just fu*k off. was: Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-20 Thread William Robb
being posted here, without invoking the dreaded censorship word. Just curious William Robb - Original Message - From: Norm Baugher Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME aaggh h

RE: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-20 Thread Tom C
Bill, Calm down man... IMO, these guys are just chattering... it should be taken off-list, I agree. It's tedious deleteing every Windows ME thread. Worse than Mafud? That's probably just because he'd always hand us a loaded gun with the trigger cocked and we'd pull it to watch what happened.

Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-20 Thread Henri Toivonen
Tom C wrote: or just at least go to some other OT subject before we all die of boredom or frustration? Sooo.. What do you guys think about the Iraq-war? How about Bush? /Henri PS. It's a joke, please do not talk about politics ;-)

RE: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-20 Thread Shawn K.
you want, but it wont EVER change the fact that you ARE FLAT OUT WRONG. WHEN WILL YOU UNDERSTAND?? -Shawn -Original Message- From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME How many

Re: Why don't you all just fu*k off. was: Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-20 Thread Bob Blakely
You can't reform a narcissist. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are there any mailing lists out there dedicated to dumping on Microsoft, praising the virtues of Linux, and generally being obnoxious in general? Perhaps these idiots could seek out that mailing list, go where people

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Hello, nice to meet you too. The link you posted is to a know issue with DLling dodgly .dmg files (like .Zip files). Basically if you set your browser to auto open them after DL there is a potential security risk as you could be unzipping a dodgy piece of software - of course for it to do

Re: Photoshop Machine (Was RE: Anyone still using windows ME)

2004-05-19 Thread David Mann
On May 19, 2004, at 11:30 AM, Winston wrote: Gosh, I would not pay the cost of G5 for the speed it offers. Neither would I... not in this country anyway. OTOH Virginia Tech got a pretty good bang for their bucks. But that's not exactly a Photoshop machine :) Cheers, - Dave (a G5 owner)

RE: Photoshop Machine (Was RE: Anyone still using windows ME)

2004-05-19 Thread Winston
] Subject: Re: Photoshop Machine (Was RE: Anyone still using windows ME) On May 19, 2004, at 11:30 AM, Winston wrote: Gosh, I would not pay the cost of G5 for the speed it offers. Neither would I... not in this country anyway. OTOH Virginia Tech got a pretty good bang for their bucks

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-19 Thread KT Takeshita
Hi Antonio, I was expecting that you would read the following paragraph in that article in response to your query why Mac is usually spared for virus attack which is very rampant in Windows machine. Never mind on OS/X security hole etc. Typically, people write exploits and other forms of

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 12:41:47 AM, graywolf wrote: g Golly, that will virus wipe a bunch of hard drives, won't it? This email contains the HONOR SYSTEM virus. Send ten copies of this message to your friends and then reformat your hard drive. Regards, Bob... I wouldn't joke at that ;-)

Re: Photoshop Machine (Was RE: Anyone still using windows ME)

2004-05-19 Thread David Mann
On May 19, 2004, at 9:49 PM, Winston wrote: In my defense, I use my photoshop machine mostly for playing games though :( That's OK; I may use my Photoshop machine for Photoshop, but I also use my scanning machine for games :) But hey, at least we have something in common - I use a G5 toofrom

Re: OT: Eliminating 'virii' ( was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-19 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
BW I suspect that if you did a poll the overwhelming majority of BW those people would know perfectly well what the English plural of BW 'box' is, but continue to say 'boxen' for nerdy jargon reasons. I have a herd of boxen to care for from Ox, pl. Oxen Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Yes. I am English and english is my first language. Born and bred in good old London, UK. As you can see in the dictionary the main meaning of sub-standard is below an established or required standard. Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 15:45, Henri Toivonen wrote: Antonio Aparicio wrote: Hi Henri,

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
I beg your pardon. There was no need for that. I was merely pointing out to Henri that the main meaning of sub-standard was not as he had understood. As to this being a friendly group I would beg to differ with that assertion. There appear to be some very unfriendly people here from what I

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Keith Whaley
Antonio Aparicio wrote: I beg your pardon. There was no need for that. I was merely pointing out to Henri that the main meaning of sub-standard was not as he had understood. As to this being a friendly group I would beg to differ with that assertion. There appear to be some very unfriendly

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I wish that there was no need for that, but apparently there is. Most of the unfriendly comments have come from you, and many of the others are in response to you. Antonio Aparicio wrote: I beg your pardon. There was no need for that. I was merely pointing out to Henri that the main meaning

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Henri Toivonen
Antonio Aparicio wrote: Yes. I am English and english is my first language. Born and bred in good old London, UK. As you can see in the dictionary the main meaning of sub-standard is below an established or required standard. Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 15:45, Henri Toivonen wrote: Antonio

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Henri, I have said all along that Windows is a sub-standard OS. i.e. a poor quality one. I have not changed my mind on this matter, nor have I said otherwise. Below an established or required standard IS poor quality in English. It was you who attempted to shift the meaning to non-standard, as

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
I may have argued an opinion that has not found widespread approval here on this list but I believe I have no been unfriendly. You however seem to have made quite a few unfriendly remarks. Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 18:09, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I wish that there was no need for that, but

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
w.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.95.133.170] X-Declude-Spoolname: Db15e0e8.SMD I have no problem with your opinions. Some of your comments to

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Yeah right. You think you have not said anything unfriendly, what about when you said: Would everyone please just ignore him until he calms down or goes away or perhaps This is a friendly and tolerant group. Try to fit in. You seem to enjoy throwing stones from he sidelines. Antonio On 19 May

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
p.s. Hows about instead of asking me to fit in whatever that is, that you accept and respect other peoples opinions. Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 21:27, Antonio Aparicio wrote: Yeah right. You think you have not said anything unfriendly, what about when you said: Would everyone please just

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Oh and here comes another one to join the bandwagon! As far as I am aware subscribers to this group can post as many messages to whatever thread I please. Had it not occurred to you that the reason I have made so many posts is because I have been constantly bombarded by messages that I did not

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
wrote: From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME? I may have argued an opinion that has not found widespread approval here on this list but I believe I have no been unfriendly. No, you have not been

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Hi ERN, I don't think we have spoken before. Welcome to the discussion.I did not use the term sub-standard loosely, but rather specifically in relation to the quality of the windows OS, using additional terms such as shoddy, poor quality etc. etc. to further illustrate my opinion. It was

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Norm Baugher
Please make this thread go away, please make this thread go away, please make this thread go awayclicking heels together Find a happly, find a happy place, find a happy place thumb in mouth

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Henri Toivonen
Antonio Aparicio wrote: I have said all along that Windows is a sub-standard OS. Below an established or required standard IS poor quality in English. Okey, Fact #1: Windows is the standard of todays workstation operating systems. You say: Windows is sub-standard, ie. below an established

Add rules (was: Anyone still using WIndows ME?)

2004-05-19 Thread Dario Bonazza
OK friends, time to add one (or more) new rules to Outlook... Dario Antonio Aparicio wrote:

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME? I may have argued an opinion that has not found widespread approval here on this list but I believe I have no been unfriendly. No, you have

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Shawn, I don't think I ever asked for anyone to bend over backwards, nor do I recognise any relentless windows bashing - I was just voicing an opinion (admittedly strongly held), joining the debate and defending myself from attacks from people like you. If you wanted the matter dropped you

Fwd: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Begin forwarded message: From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 19 May 2004 22:23:59 GMT+02:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME? Hi Henri, thanks for your message. I think you are confusing two separate things. 1) the quality of the windows OS (I believe

RE: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Shawn K.
I'm done beating this dead horse. A phrase in America that means the conversation is over. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 4:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME? Shawn, I

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Henri Toivonen
Lasse Karlsson wrote: From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME? I may have argued an opinion that has not found widespread approval here on this list but I believe I have no been unfriendly

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/19/2004 1:53:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Friendly person? Either you have a huge patience or you haven't been following the thread. ;-) /Henri --- I am not aware that Antonio has called anyone names. As he has been called. In

RE: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Shawn K.
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME? In a message dated 5/19/2004 1:53:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Friendly person? Either you have a huge patience or you haven't been following the thread. ;-) /Henri

Re: Why 35mm? (was RE: Anyone still using Windows ME?)

2004-05-19 Thread Nick Clark
Image quality will suffer greatly as the digital projectors have nowhere near the resolution of even the lowest digital camera. 1.3 Mpixels at the top end. Nick -Original Message- From: Dr. Shaun Canning[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19/05/04 02:21:53 If I was you Joe, I'd

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread graywolf
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME? In a message dated 5/19/2004 1:53:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Friendly person? Either you have a huge patience or you haven't

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread William Robb
Bob, it's a joke. Lighten up. Bill - Original Message - From: Bob Blakely Subject: Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME? Gee... I'm sorry to be living, Peter... Have a great day. Regards, Bob... From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh jeze, somebody woke up Bob

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-19 Thread Bill Owens
Please Lord, let this thread die! Bill - Original Message - From: Anders Hultman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME? On Wed, 19 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But sometimes, yes, this list has

RE: Anyone still using WIndows ME? (for graywolf)

2004-05-19 Thread Shawn K.
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME? Trolling again, Shawn? Shawn K. wrote: What is a herd instinct? Where do you draw the line at being a herd instinct and not being a herd instinct?? For instance, what would you call

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Antonio Aparicio
What happened, did I run into a room full of Microsoft shareholders or something? All I said was that Windows was a substandard operating system and that it was riddled with viruses and spyware and that we the users deserved better, especially given the money the company makes. Antonio On 18

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Bill Owens
- Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME What happened, did I run into a room full of Microsoft shareholders or something? All I said was that Windows was a substandard operating system and that it was riddled with viruses

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Well why did you contribute to it then? I ignore threads I am not interested in - it is quite easy. Antonio On 18 May 2004, at 17:02, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME What happened, did I run into a room full

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Antonio Aparicio
standard in computing? I think they should be doing betterl, a lot better. Antonio On 18 May 2004, at 17:17, Bill Owens wrote: - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME What happened, did I run into a room full of Microsoft shareholders

RE: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Shawn K.
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME I don't need to. I also use Mac OSX, which is virus free and works like a dream come true. But that doesnt mean that I should not be dissatisfied with shoddy workmanship. I guess

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Antonio Aparicio
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME I don't need to. I also use Mac OSX, which is virus free and works like a dream come true. But that doesnt mean that I should not be dissatisfied with shoddy workmanship. I guess if Windows were

RE: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Shawn K.
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME Well OSX runs just fine on my G4 1 gig. Do you own a Mac? Nobody said OSX was 64 bit either. As far as I am aware the new G5 chips are 64 bit but OSX isn't yet. As to price I think you are wrong, a similarly specced Wintel machine

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread John Francis
18, 2004 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME Well OSX runs just fine on my G4 1 gig. Do you own a Mac? Nobody said OSX was 64 bit either. As far as I am aware the new G5 chips are 64 bit but OSX isn't yet. As to price I think you are wrong, a similarly

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Rfsindg
William Robb writes: Maybe it's because those of us who have been on this list for several years are tired of this particular discussion coming up a couple of times a year. Yup! And God help us if the other Bob wakes up! He doesn't tolerate fools meekly. I hope his son is doing well.

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME What happened, did I run into a room full of Microsoft shareholders or something? All I said was that Windows

RE: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Shawn K.
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME Ok, I am open to being wrong. Could yo point me to some examples? Antonio On 18 May 2004, at 18:58, John Francis wrote: As far as I am aware there is no spy-ware nor viruses on OSX

RE: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Shawn K.
releases are even more insecure. And that my friends is pretty bad. I prefer windows, it works, and it works everytime. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Antonio Aparicio
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME Ok, I am open to being wrong. Could yo point me to some examples? Antonio On 18 May 2004, at 18:58, John Francis wrote: As far as I am aware there is no spy-ware nor viruses on OSX. I believe that is by design. GAHHH Sorry, Antonio, but you

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/17/2004 12:32:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Check out AVG. http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marnie aka Doe :-) I used McAffe at first when it was new on this machine (under ME), then it expired. So I removed it.

Re: OT: Eliminating 'virii' ( was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Bob W
Hi, This has actually nothing to do with regular languages. It's just computer lingo. The jargon of nerds, if you will. I doubt that. As another example, one unix, several unices. And several boxes running a unix version is often referred to as boxen. It's nerd jargon if they know the

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread John Francis
You can set up windows to do the same thing Antonio. -Shawn Give it up, Shawn. You can't convince him with facts that don't match his pre-determined prejudices.

Why 35mm? (was RE: Anyone still using Windows ME?)

2004-05-18 Thread Nick Clark
PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Anyone still using Windows ME? KEEP DREAMING!!! The whole point of 35mm was convenience, convenience, and more convenience. Digital out does the convenience factor by about a hundred miles. And the beauty of digital is the ease of integrating

Re: OT: Eliminating 'virii' ( was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Henri Toivonen
Bob W wrote: Hi, This has actually nothing to do with regular languages. It's just computer lingo. The jargon of nerds, if you will. I doubt that. As another example, one unix, several unices. And several boxes running a unix version is often referred to as boxen. It's nerd jargon

Re: OT: Eliminating 'virii' ( was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Bob W
Hi, But hey, I agree with you that people are stupid and say stuff wrong because they are ignorant. I did not say people are stupid. -- Cheers, Bob

RE: OT: Eliminating 'virii' ( was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Shawn K.
' ( was Re: Anyone still using windows ME Bob W wrote: Hi, This has actually nothing to do with regular languages. It's just computer lingo. The jargon of nerds, if you will. I doubt that. As another example, one unix, several unices. And several boxes running a unix version is often

Re: OT: Eliminating 'virii' ( was Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Tom C
people are stupid ... you did now.. :) Tom C. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Eliminating 'virii' ( was Re: Anyone still using windows ME Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:59:55 +0100 Hi, But hey, I agree with you that people are stupid

Photoshop Machine (Was RE: Anyone still using windows ME)

2004-05-18 Thread Winston
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME Well OSX runs just fine on my G4 1 gig. Do you own a Mac? Nobody said OSX was 64 bit either. As far as I am aware the new G5 chips are 64 bit but OSX isn't yet

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Herb Chong
it only means you don't know how to. Herb... - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:52 PM Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME Shawn, you cannot install any software on OSX unless you enter the Admin

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Antonio Aparicio
: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME Shawn, you cannot install any software on OSX unless you enter the Admin password - therefore by design a virus cannot install and run itself which is the big problem with Windows. Antonio On 18 May 2004

Re: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread KT Takeshita
On 5/18/04 5:53 PM, Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really, I didn't know that. Interesting. So how come Windows is still so vulnerable to virus attacks? Hi Antonio, Nice to meet you (on the list :-). This might help you understand what's going on in each OS?

RE: Anyone still using windows ME

2004-05-18 Thread Shawn K.
Because flaws in software go beyond the blatantly obvious... -Shawn -Original Message- From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME Really, I didn't know that. Interesting. So how

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Frantisek Vlcek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Win ME is super-slow, super-buggy, super-unstable; super-crappy. MR That's pretty much what I've heard. The way I heard it, it's quite a hybrid. With many things inherited still from good old Dos and subsequent hybrids like W95/W98, while some things

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-17 Thread brooksdj
Hi Mark. I have ME on my onsite computers.They came that way from the photog that sold me his stuff.So far only one problem since 2001, July.I run PS 6, AcDc,Corel 7,but no internet. The problem seemed to fix itself after a day of being shut off,so i'm not sure what happened there. Not sure if

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-17 Thread Antonio Aparicio
What windows software isnt? Its amazing that a company with so so so much money at its disposal continues to put out such shoddy substandard products. Antonio On 17 May 2004, at 13:50, Mark Roberts wrote: Win ME is super-slow, super-buggy, super-unstable; super-crappy

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-17 Thread Henri Toivonen
Antonio Aparicio wrote: What windows software isnt? Its amazing that a company with so so so much money at its disposal continues to put out such shoddy substandard products. Well, it's much worse than say, Win Xp. Substandard? Maybe that's the wrong word for it. Windows IS the standard for

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-17 Thread graywolf
Not when you realize their main interest is selling support contracts to corporations. -- Antonio Aparicio wrote: What windows software isnt? Its amazing that a company with so so so much money at its disposal continues to put out such shoddy substandard products. Antonio On 17 May 2004, at

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-17 Thread Peter J. Alling
Don't kid yourself, OS-X is based on a Unix version that's that's a hackers wet dream and a developers nightmare. Cotty wrote: On 17/5/04, HENRI, discombobulated, offered: Substandard? Maybe that's the wrong word for it. Windows IS the standard for operating systems. However crappy it may

Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-17 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Hi Peter, I dont want to get into a flame situation here, but I do not think that I have ever heard of OSX being either hacked nor a problem for developers. Can you support you statement with an example? Certainly I do not think any OS is totally imune from a determined hack, but all the

RE: Anyone still using WIndows ME?

2004-05-17 Thread Amita Guha
Much worse than Xp - thats an interesting way of putting it! Bug ridden POS. Xp is not much better - in fact as far as virus, spyware and the like are concerned it is 1,000 times worse! They should have named it VXp for Virus Experience! Gosh, I've been running XP for almost a

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