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When I was a kid we lived a couple of years in Salonica, northern Greece. There was an organ grinder we saw several times on the street but rather than a monkey he came with a bear. I had nightmares about that bear climbing in my bedroom window and hiding under the bed waiting to get me. Never

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What's the problem? There were no organ grinders when I was a kid, yet somehow I learned what they were. > On 9 Mar 2018, at 17:08, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > I looked at the preview offered by Amazon, - and stumbled on the first page > there (p.20/21): how would you

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:0) I bought the Joel Meyerowitz book - it really is good, thanks for putting me on to it. B > On 9 Mar 2018, at 16:59, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > Aah, that were genious you, Bob! > > All this time, I've been thinking who was that kiddo cursing like a sailor in >

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On 3/9/2018 12:03, Larry Colen wrote: I will say that I sure missed a lot reading Stranger in a Strange Land when I was ten years old. NO Shittah! I never had the chance to read it when I was 10. It didn't come out until I was 11. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for.

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Nicholas van Rijn & Dominic Flandery (aka "Flandry of Terra"). On 3/9/2018 12:33, Igor PDML-StR wrote: That's quite a story! But I should admit, despite having swallowed tons of sci-fi books as a teenager and post-teenager, I had to look up Poul Anderson. I am not sure if I just missed the

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1492? Alan C -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: 9 March, 2018 7:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Cameras for a kid I don't think I've seen a thread in a long time that is so well suited for giving crusty old farts a chance to pontificate on their experiences

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That's quite a story! But I should admit, despite having swallowed tons of sci-fi books as a teenager and post-teenager, I had to look up Poul Anderson. I am not sure if I just missed the name or his books as well... However, The Snows of Ganymede and Virgin Planet sound familiar... Being

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Oh, I'd just pull out my accordion and get the monkey dancing ... That should get the point across pretty quickly. G — No matter where you go, there you are. > On Mar 9, 2018, at 9:07 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > I looked at the preview offered by Amazon, - and stumbled

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I looked at the preview offered by Amazon, - and stumbled on the first page there (p.20/21): how would you explain to a contemporary kid the meaning of "organ grinder"?!.. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71Xoe7oN76L.jpg Cheers, Igor Eric Weir Thu, 08 Mar 2018 09:58:51

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I don't think I've seen a thread in a long time that is so well suited for giving crusty old farts a chance to pontificate on their experiences back when they wore kneepants. Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I just ordered one copy of that book for me and one copy for a friend as a birthday gift.

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Aah, that were genious you, Bob! All this time, I've been thinking who was that kiddo cursing like a sailor in Sanskrit while they were changing his diapers and nursing during the breaks in the next classroom! :-D Paul: I learned long division at 7, but did not learn that it was long until

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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >>I just ordered one copy of that book for me and one copy for a friend as a >>birthday gift. >>We're both 64 this year: It's important to keep our child's eye. Thanks for >>posting the link! :-) >

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I just ordered one copy of that book for me and one copy for a friend as a birthday gift. We're both 64 this year: It's important to keep our child's eye. Thanks for posting the link! :-) BTW: I learned basic develop and print with the Minolta 16-Ps when I was eight or nine… I don't remember

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On 3/8/2018 18:31, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:45, John Francis wrote: On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 03:47:57PM -0500, John wrote: On 3/8/2018 15:27, Mark Roberts wrote: John wrote: I think "French literature" is a euphemism for "dirty French Post Cards". For young

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> On Mar 8, 2018, at 3:03 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > You described the boy, but it is important to know what (and why) he is > interested w.r.t. photography. Has he expressed his interest toward > photography? Or he just wants to have a camera to take cool selfies? > Has

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> On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > Fuji X-2S Shoulda been X-E2S. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net "What does it mean...that the world is so

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> On Mar 8, 2018, at 6:32 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > The book appears to be quite good. But I think a digital camera is a must. > Kids live online, and he’ll undoubtedly want to post digital photos. Instant > cameras are old people toys. A good phone is better than

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> On Mar 8, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> >> I would go for a used Fuji X-20 - brilliant camera to learn with. > > I have one in like new condition that I'd be more than happy

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> On Mar 8, 2018, at 3:12 PM, John wrote: > > think he'd probably get more out of the K1000, but I've been told > more than once that I'm out of touch with what kids are into today. > About all I do remember is how much it annoyed me when I was 12 to > have some geezer

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> On Mar 8, 2018, at 2:29 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > I would go for a used Fuji X-20 - brilliant camera to learn with. > > That was one of my other thoughts, Cotty. I recommended it, too. FYI, I still have the Fuji X-Q1 I

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I knew that. Paul > On Mar 8, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > >> On 8 Mar 2018, at 19:34, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> When I was learning photography and darkroom techniques I was studying long >> division and reading the Hardy Boys. I was

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The book appears to be quite good. But I think a digital camera is a must. Kids live online, and he’ll undoubtedly want to post digital photos. Instant cameras are old people toys. A good phone is better than many point and shoots. My iPhone 7 allows extensive rendering options with the

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On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:45, John Francis wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 03:47:57PM -0500, John wrote: >>> On 3/8/2018 15:27, Mark Roberts wrote: >>> John wrote: >>> I think "French literature" is a euphemism for "dirty French Post Cards". For young American

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On 8 Mar 2018, at 19:34, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > When I was learning photography and darkroom techniques I was studying long > division and reading the Hardy Boys. I was ten years old. I read them when I was seven. In Sanskrit. During breaks in nuclear physics classes.

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You obviously know nothing of masochism and rope... > On 8 Mar 2018, at 18:51, mike wilson wrote: > > Your masochism knows no bounds. > >> On 08 March 2018 at 16:36 Bob W-PDML wrote: >> >> >> At the same time I was learning photography I was

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That book looks fantastic - great idea. And I like Godfrey's idea too, despite my Jesuitical tendencies. B > On 8 Mar 2018, at 17:58, Eric Weir wrote: > > > But I liked Godfrey’s suggestion of instant photography. So I also > recommended one of the Fuji Instax cameras.

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Or National Geographic... G — And you never had to hide a Nat Geo... On Mar 8, 2018, at 1:44 PM, John Francis wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 03:47:57PM -0500, John wrote: >>> On 3/8/2018 15:27, Mark Roberts wrote: >>> John wrote: >>> I think "French literature" is a

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On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 03:47:57PM -0500, John wrote: > On 3/8/2018 15:27, Mark Roberts wrote: > > John wrote: > > > > > I think "French literature" is a euphemism for "dirty French Post Cards". > > > > > > For young American boys of a certain age, the lingerie section of the > > > Sears Catalog

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On 3/8/2018 15:27, Mark Roberts wrote: John wrote: I think "French literature" is a euphemism for "dirty French Post Cards". For young American boys of a certain age, the lingerie section of the Sears Catalog had to suffice. I think "Sears lingerie" has to be the least sexy sounding concept

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On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 8/3/18, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>When I was about that age someone bought me an Instamatic, which quickly >>frustrated me, but one of my schoolfriends had an Olympus Pen-F (the >>half-frame one) and

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On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > John wrote: > >>I think "French literature" is a euphemism for "dirty French Post Cards". >> >>For young American boys of a certain age, the lingerie section of the >>Sears Catalog had to suffice. > > I think "Sears

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John wrote: >I think "French literature" is a euphemism for "dirty French Post Cards". > >For young American boys of a certain age, the lingerie section of the >Sears Catalog had to suffice. I think "Sears lingerie" has to be the least sexy sounding concept I've ever heard of. -- Mark Roberts

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Tom Corbett & the Space Rangers here. Might have already encountered Asimov & Heinlein. No darkroom I'm afraid, but I got my first camera at age nine, a Brownie Hawkeye inherited when my Grandmother passed away. The Rexall Drug Store down the street returned processed film & prints in about 5

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I think "French literature" is a euphemism for "dirty French Post Cards". For young American boys of a certain age, the lingerie section of the Sears Catalog had to suffice. On 3/8/2018 14:26, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I think BobW and I are soul mates. When I was getting deeper into photography

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Probably a smart phone. I don't think today's kids have much use for real cameras. OTOH, if the kid's really into science, he might be interested in film and darkroom - in which case, a K1000 + SMC-P 50mm 1:1.4 might just be the ticket. If she wants him to jump right into digital, get him the

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Eric, “Alice: Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? The Cheshire Cat: That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. Alice: I don't much care where. The Cheshire Cat: Then it doesn't much matter which way you go. Alice: ...So long as I get somewhere. The Cheshire

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Grace has done quite well with my old K7. I have a K5 with battery grip that’s looking for a new home. Paul > On Mar 8, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > >> On Mar 8, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Ken Waller wrote: >> >> Eric, whatever you wind up with

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When I was learning photography and darkroom techniques I was studying long division and reading the Hardy Boys. I was ten years old. > On Mar 8, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > I think BobW and I are soul mates. When I was getting deeper into photography

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On 8/3/18, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >When I was about that age someone bought me an Instamatic, which quickly >frustrated me, but one of my schoolfriends had an Olympus Pen-F (the >half-frame one) and we could use the school darkroom, so I learned a bit >with that. There is a

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I think BobW and I are soul mates. When I was getting deeper into photography in High School, I was studying Latin, German, Old English, Physics, Calculus, and reading S.I. Hayakawa's treatise on general semantics, "Language in Thought and Action." I'd already signed off on the French as

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Your masochism knows no bounds. > On 08 March 2018 at 16:36 Bob W-PDML wrote: > > > At the same time I was learning photography I was also starting to read > French literature... > > > On 8 Mar 2018, at 15:57, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > > > You crack

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Thanks for sharing that. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > At the same time I was learning photography I was also starting to read > French literature... > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

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> On Mar 8, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Eric, whatever you wind up with I'd suggest it have both auto capture mode > and a manual mode. With auto he can learn some of the non technical parts of > photography - composition, framing etc without getting caught

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- >From: Eric Weir <eew...@bellsouth.net> >Subject: Cameras for a kid > > >A sister has asked me for advice on a beginning camera for her grandson. He’s >12, intelligent, creative, self-disciplined—all-in-all pretty precocious about >many things. I have my own thou

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At the same time I was learning photography I was also starting to read French literature... > On 8 Mar 2018, at 15:57, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > You crack me up, Bob! That's a great line ...! :-) > > When I was that age, I'd already bought my own first camera (a Minolta

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I'd start with something like a WG-3, before moving to DSLR. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > > A sister has asked me for advice on a beginning camera for her grandson. > He’s 12, intelligent,

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You crack me up, Bob! That's a great line ...! :-) When I was that age, I'd already bought my own first camera (a Minolta 16-P which cost me the grand sum of $19 at Camera Craft in New Rochelle, NY), having been given a couple of Kodak cameras before then. But I wanted something more

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Hi, Eric: My son started with a digital point & shoot. Once he was frustrated with its limitations, I began teaching him with my *istDS in manual mode. We'd go out and shoot the same things (both using the *istDS bodies), and then compare the captures. To this day, he prefers the *istDS body over

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Sounds like he needs an adult real-life lesson that will leave him feeling inadequate, unloved and in despair at the pointlessness of existence, so anything by Pentax will do. When I was about that age someone bought me an Instamatic, which quickly frustrated me, but one of my schoolfriends

Cameras for a kid

A sister has asked me for advice on a beginning camera for her grandson. He’s 12, intelligent, creative, self-disciplined—all-in-all pretty precocious about many things. I have my own thoughts, which may not be best, but wondered what y’all might recommend.