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Subject: Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
As opposed to pressing a button and turning a wheel.
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
I guess the terms are unclear, by saying instant it seems
To imply compensation for the new aperture setting rather
Than bracketing or metering compensation
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, P. J. Alling wrote:
I think you're being too complicated. How about this. Call it auto
stop down compensation
A very good use of the information already there (open-aperture
metering is happening anyway, I presume).
Nice one P.J.
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
No extra dials or buttons to press. If you change the aperture you get
instant exposure compensation.
I hadn't thought of it being used like that. It's pretty slick
though... set a baseline aperture and then +- a little could be done
with
I hadn't thought of it being used like that. It's pretty slick
though... set a baseline aperture and then +- a little could be done
with the ring.
Ring +GB (lest we forget :-))
Actually, it's Ring + GB to get it without EV comp. Then another
+Ring to do EV comp around
Cory Papenfuss wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, P. J. Alling wrote:
I actually thought Cory had suggested this, so I apologize again.
However this seems like a possible Firmware hack. There was a cottage
industry in hacked firmware for the D300/Digital Rebel to put back
functions that were
. Alling
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:23 PM
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Huh, didn't you actually read what I wrote? You don't change the
aperture between shots if you want it to work. The camera remembers the
difference between wide
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That's why it's exposure compensation, and not a changed exposure. If
you take the original reading
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Huh, didn't you actually read what I wrote? You don't change the
aperture between shots if you want it to work. The camera remembers the
difference
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
Of course it's academic since it's not an option with the current
firmware, but I don't think it would be too bad. The +-EV only works
within 3 EV from wide open, and even then you have to do the math of how
many stops you are from wide-open.
Of course it's academic since it's not an option with the current
firmware, but I don't think it would be too bad. The +-EV only works
within 3 EV from wide open, and even then you have to do the math of how
many stops you are from wide-open.
Or 6 if you calibrate on 3 stops up
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
I still think that's more confusing than what I'm thinking.
All I am saying is that what you are thinking is confusing
(user-unfriendliness is what I have experienced) and will not solve
the problem.
How exactly do you get 6 EV?
The
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From: Kostas Kavoussanakis
Subject: Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
The camera meters at open no matter what you set the ring to. I set
the ISO 3 stops darker than the desired exposure, so it overexposes by
3 stops. This means that open+3
To early, fingers not working.
That should have been read of a workaround
Sorry.
William Robb
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From: William Robb
Subject: Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
I haven't rear a workaround from either of you that is as workable and
user freindly
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, William Robb wrote:
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From: Kostas Kavoussanakis
Subject: Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
I haven't read a workaround from either of you that is as workable and
user freindly as what is implemented now.
Don't know about Cory
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
I still think that's more confusing than what I'm thinking.
All I am saying is that what you are thinking is confusing
(user-unfriendliness is what I have experienced) and will not solve
I haven't rear a workaround from either of you that is as workable and
user freindly as what is implemented now.
You both must be engineers.
William Robb
... and proud of it. :)
Seriously though... like I said before, these could be added in
*addition* to the GB hack.
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
Seriously though... like I said before, these could be added in
*addition* to the GB hack.
In terms of economics, how would your suggestions stack up compared to
putting the bloody thing in?
Kostas
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
Seriously though... like I said before, these could be added in
*addition* to the GB hack.
In terms of economics, how would your suggestions stack up compared to
putting the bloody thing in?
A few hours of an software engineer's
I think you're being too complicated. How about this. Call it auto
stop down compensation
1.) Mount a K lens. Or take an A/F/FA off A position. The Camera
automatically senses this.
2.) Set the mode dial to Av, if it's not there already.
3.) Press the green button.
a) The camera takes
You should read my solution.
William Robb wrote:
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From: Kostas Kavoussanakis
Subject: Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
The camera meters at open no matter what you set the ring to. I set
the ISO 3 stops darker than the desired exposure, so
Sorry, I didn't see your earlier post, my idea is really your idea.
Cory Papenfuss wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
I still think that's more confusing than what I'm thinking.
All I am saying is that what
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I think you're being too complicated. How about this. Call it auto
stop down compensation
1.) Mount a K lens. Or take
As I've said before I wasn't paying much attention to the beginning of
this thread, and didn't realize that Cory suggested this earlier. I
apologize.
P. J. Alling wrote:
I think you're being too complicated. How about this. Call it auto
stop down compensation
1.) Mount a K lens. Or take
I actually thought Cory had suggested this, so I apologize again.
However this seems like a possible Firmware hack. There was a cottage
industry in hacked firmware for the D300/Digital Rebel to put back
functions that were in Canons higher level offerings that were left out
in the Rebel. I
. Alling
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:13 PM
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I think you're being too complicated. How about this. Call it auto
stop down compensation
1.) Mount a K lens. Or take an A/F/FA off A position. The Camera
I've suggested this before, but I dont think Pentax was listening
Or they were, but are sticking with the GB thing so that they can sell
more lenses. ;)
rg
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I think you're being too complicated. How about this. Call it auto
stop down compensation
1.) Mount
I think you're being too complicated. How about this. Call it auto
stop down compensation
1.) Mount a K lens. Or take an A/F/FA off A position. The Camera
automatically senses this.
2.) Set the mode dial to Av, if it's not there already.
3.) Press the green button.
a) The
: Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
Huh, didn't you actually read what I wrote? You don't change the
aperture between shots if you want it to work. The camera remembers the
difference between wide open and stopped down from the last time you
indexed the exposure. Half pressing
No extra dials or buttons to press. If you change the aperture you get
instant exposure compensation.
I hadn't thought of it being used like that. It's pretty slick
though... set a baseline aperture and then +- a little could be done
with the ring.
If you change aperture and
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, P. J. Alling wrote:
I actually thought Cory had suggested this, so I apologize again.
However this seems like a possible Firmware hack. There was a cottage
industry in hacked firmware for the D300/Digital Rebel to put back
functions that were in Canons higher level
stopped-down reading.
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Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
Sir, You wrote quote
On 17/10/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
I haven't rear a workaround from either of you
Why Bill, I didn't realise you were that way inclined.
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If you mean in this thread, yes, I see the suggestion. I was referring
to a long time ago when the green button first made its appearance and
people were complaining about it.
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I actually thought Cory had suggested this, so I apologize again.
However this seems like
On 17/10/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
To early, fingers not working.
Disgraceful.
That should have been read of a workaround
Sorry.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 17/10/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
I haven't rear a workaround from either of you
Why Bill, I didn't realise you were that way inclined.
Yeah, I was wondering if he was of that bent.
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On 14/10/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I bet you'll find that due to mass production, the sample variation is
not significant. Even though the A lenses might be calibrated that
way, its still the same basic concept. I've found that while using the
aperture ring
: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:06 PM
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Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
That's why it's exposure compensation, and not a changed exposure. If
you take the original reading at 5.6 then change the aperture to 2.8
without Gbing again, and without
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Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
I guess the terms are unclear, by saying instant it seems
To imply compensation for the new aperture setting rather
Than bracketing or metering compensation. Why use instant
In that context?
jco
On 18/10/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would that change the order of the way the mechanism works now? Because
if I extrapolate correctly what you are saying, the body would take a
meter reading right after it stopped down and adjusted the position to
match the exposure reading wide
Ok.
JCO
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because it's an email to a friendly group of like-minded people
On Oct 17, 2006, at 7:52 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Ok.
JCO
Someone has apparently taken JCO away and replaced him with someone
agreeable. Or perhaps there's a full moon?
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being used, say K50 1.4 into the body UI when you powered up the camera.
All they would need would be the actual non-linear response of the
aperture linkage (which would be in a table in the firmware) and they
could close down the aperture to the correct position as dialed in by
the
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
Then it would be equivalent to Av mode on an 'A' lens. You'd just
have to remember to change the in-body set aperture with the aperture ring
if you changed that.
To me that would be an improvement that could be added in addition
to the
To me that would be an improvement that could be added in addition
to the 'green-button' kludge. It has the advantage of allowing
multi-segment metering, allows for changing light conditions, etc.
Cory,
There is no real benefit from this, in my experience. You can try this
by
On Oct 14, 2006, at 5:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 10/13/2006 9:15:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes each lens could be autocalibrated but I doubt
Pentax would be willing to go that far if they
Wont even provide something as simple and cheap
simulator is dead!
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
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+45 23 43 85 77
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assumptions
Based to the thread. That's how life works.
Jco
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William Robb
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 11:10 AM
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survey, part Deaux
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
The latest mount doesn't support K/M,
K/M lenses can be mounted to the newest cameras, the light meter works,
and pictures can be taken.
Does this sound like
Of
J and K Messervy
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 6:18 AM
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For the sake of every thing sane, will you just drop it?
You are now just polluting the PDML with rubbish. I'm sick of deleting
hundreds of posts every day
On 15/10/06, J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are now just polluting the PDML with rubbish. I'm sick of deleting
hundreds of posts every day because of one raving, antisocial lunatic.
Could everyone please ignore this creature so that the madness can stop?
You could be proactive
But the pollution, vitriol, anger, foul language, and spelling and
grammatical errors would still pervade the list. I logged on earlier and
found no messages from JCO, and felt a sense of relief and tranquility, and
now he's back, harping on messages that are a day or more old. I thought
the
: Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
But the pollution, vitriol, anger, foul language, and spelling and
grammatical errors would still pervade the list. I logged on earlier
and
found no messages from JCO, and felt a sense of relief and tranquility,
and
now he's back, harping on messages
AM
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Subject: Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
But the pollution, vitriol, anger, foul language, and spelling and
grammatical errors would still pervade the list. I logged on earlier
and
found no messages from JCO, and felt a sense of relief
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
STOP YOUR B.S. This thread is about FULL
K/M support, including open aperture AE
And open aperture metered manual and you
Know it. Everytime I post this you come in
Like a baby
Of
William Robb
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:31 AM
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
STOP YOUR B.S. This thread is about FULL
K/M support
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
NO it is not in the context of this/these threads you idiot.
OK I will hold you hand like a baby, For future reference
All references to Pentax K/M support are with respect
To sensing
survey, part Deaux
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
NO it is not in the context of this/these threads you idiot.
OK I will hold you hand like a baby, For future reference
All references to Pentax K/M support
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
Listen you blowhard, we are talking about OPEN APERTURE
APERTURE PREFERRED AE and OPEN APERTURE METERED MANUAL.
These very same features were supported on K/M lenses for
Decades
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
Listen you blowhard, we are talking about OPEN APERTURE
APERTURE PREFERRED AE and OPEN APERTURE METERED MANUAL
On 14/10/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seems like they know quite a lot. They're currently the biggest
comeback story in the camera biz.
Not from where I'm viewing it (I probably have far more in depth
resources from which to gauge their progress however).
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
K/M lens lens functions ARE NOT imcompatible
With Pentaxes latest mount. That is what
I am talking about. Its both the body and lens
Mounts not either. Current mount has
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Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part
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My point is not that Pentax would do it, my point is that it could be
done. That way they could do away with the simulator if they wanted to
continue moving forward with the concept of controlling the lens
Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 14/10/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seems like they know quite a lot. They're currently the biggest
comeback story in the camera biz.
Not from where I'm viewing it (I probably have far more in depth
resources from which to gauge their progress
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My point is not that Pentax would do it, my point is that it could be
done. That way they could do away with the simulator if they wanted
On 14/10/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I doubt that. You're in one of the smallest markets there is.
Even Canada is a much larger market than .au, and Pentax is doing VERY
well here. Much better than Oly or Sony from what I'm hearing from
camera salesguys.
Ah no, I'm looking at if
Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 14/10/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I doubt that. You're in one of the smallest markets there is.
Even Canada is a much larger market than .au, and Pentax is doing VERY
well here. Much better than Oly or Sony from what I'm hearing from
camera
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
The latest mount doesn't support K/M,
K/M lenses can be mounted to the newest cameras, the light meter works,
and pictures can be taken.
Does this sound like the mount is unsupported
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From: Digital Image Studio
Subject: Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
Ah no, I'm looking at if from the perspectives of Japanese analysts
actually. I wasn't speaking of my knowledge of the local market. Here
Pentax sells well but still probably
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I bet you'll find that due to mass production, the sample variation is
not significant. Even
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DagT
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After reading some of these posts I think I agree with Dave Savage: I
don´t care.
I´ve got
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That's great, so now you are saying that those who are not
collectors or owners of very old equipment should not have
the right to wote over the future K-mount.
There's some something strange about this logic.
DagT
I don't think the number of k/m lenses should limit the survey; I do
suspect
it influences a person's vote, like it did for JCO on on end of the spectrum
and Godfrey on the other.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Why three? Why not one, or two?
Define good?
Are you now being elitist? Which K/M lenses
John Celio wrote:
You don't know the difference between shrewd and
Unscrupulous. Disabling older products without
Cost or technical reasons is just that.
There -is- a cost reason for the loss of the simulator.
*Lowball* estimated cost of aperture smulator: $5.00/camera
Production plans for
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006, Mark Roberts wrote:
*Lowball* estimated cost of aperture smulator: $5.00/camera
Production plans for K10D: 13000/month
Additional cost to Pentax: $65,000.00/month or $780,000.00/year
I suppose if we look into the next decade the figure becomes more
impressive, esp if you
to add and very feasable in
A $1000 body.
jco
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I have a K 85/1.8, a K
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Why three? Why not one, or two?
Define good?
Are you now being elitist? Which K/M
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By that logic, anybody who doesn't own a Pentax DSLR shouldn't be
commenting
On 10/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frankly, I see Pentax now as correcting most of their previous mistakes --
addressing and correcting worries about their future and their continued
existence. They seem to have wised up. And, what do you know, they are still
in the
Last I heard he left the list, bought Nikon gear, and is continuing with
his special type of photography somewhere in upstate New York
Shel
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Where is Herb, anyway?
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Where is Herb, anyway?
Out taking pictures.
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That should read aren't
JCO
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Big difference because
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IMHO, anyone who doesnt have at least more than a few ( say 3? )
K/M lenses, especially good ones, shouldnt even be commenting
On the matter. Of course you wouldnt care if you dont have
A signifigant number of lenses losing key functions.
jco
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Anybody who would like to comment further on this matter must apply in
writing to JCO stating why you think you're qualified to do
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Cant you understand my point that people who don't have
K/M lenses really don't
be a signifigant number. If you do, that
Fine with me but I don't.
jco
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John Celio
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
Simply logic would dictate that the more K/M lenses you own
The more damage is done by not having full support of them.
A single $5 part missing in the body could cause lose
and not in the focal lengths I use often.
(Superwides and Super teles)
JCO
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aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
Simply logic would dictate that the more K/M lenses you own
The more damage is done by not having full support of them.
A single $5 part missing
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
Read my posts, not for reasons I care
About.
What reasons should I care about then, if you want me to read your
posts?
If you don't care, why should anyone else?
William Robb
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
Its really dumb to say that because its OLD
It shouldn't be supported because the mount
Is still the same, i.e. the MOUNT is old too.
Well John, it must be really fucking dumb
, October 13, 2006 11:44 AM
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Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
Simply logic would dictate that the more K/M lenses you own
The more damage
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
And using your logic, they should have dropped K support
When M lenses came out and dropped K/M support when A
Lenses came out and dropped A lens support when F lenses
Came out etc
Deaux
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
Read my posts, not for reasons I care
About.
What reasons should I care about then, if you want me to read your
posts?
If you don't care, why should anyone else?
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
These are not just old collectors items, they are
Very nice, very usable, precision manual focus lenses.
They are very usable even with the newest DSLRs, something you CAN'T
SEEM TO GET
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Bob W
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 3:55 AM
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Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
Anybody who would like to comment further on this matter must apply
in
writing to JCO stating why you
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
Then don't please. Not all customers
Want the same exact things, DUH.
Very few customers seem to want what you want from Pentax's perspective.
William Robb
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PDML Pentax-Discuss
CANON FD LENES!
jco
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From: J. C. O'Connell
aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux
These are not just old collectors items, they are
Very nice, very usable, precision manual focus lenses.
They are very usable even with the newest DSLRs
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William Robb
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