Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-03-31 Thread P.J. Alling
On 3/31/2014 10:00 AM, John wrote: On 3/30/2014 10:09 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: FWIW, swapping a keyboard out on a laptop is easier than picking your nose. We can do that.??? Sure, you can pick

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-03-31 Thread John
On 3/30/2014 10:09 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: FWIW, swapping a keyboard out on a laptop is easier than picking your nose. We can do that.??? Sure, you can pick your friends, you can pick you nose

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-03-30 Thread P.J. Alling
On 2/15/2014 9:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: FWIW, swapping a keyboard out on a laptop is easier than picking your nose. We can do that.??? Sure, you can pick your friends, you can pick you nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

RE: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-16 Thread John Coyle
He doesn't - he's just asked me to reconfigure it to only play videos! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Aahz Maruch Sent: Saturday, 15 February 2014 12:37 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Lenovo Com

SV: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-15 Thread Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
Well yeah, *that* sucks. :-( support for Lenovo in Norway is served by a contracted independent vendor. I've read experiences with them as being very choosy about the kind of failures they're willing to provide service for. Sifting out the clear-cut warranty issues where they can pass the bill

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > FWIW, swapping a keyboard out on a laptop is easier than picking your > nose. We can do that.??? Dave > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, > || (O) |Web Video Production > -- > ___

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread David Mann
On Feb 15, 2014, at 3:37 am, Aahz Maruch wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014, John Coyle wrote: >> >> My stepson is still using my ThinkPad from about the same time - with >> Windows ME, no less! > > Either he never connects to the Internet or it's infested with malware. I just got my old Win ME mac

Re: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread Bill
On 14/02/2014 4:39 PM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: Sorry to hear your experience, Bill. My previous workplace used Lenovos. All business model ThinkPads, in various sizes and over many processor generations. The total inhouse stock of them was about 40-50 machines at any time. They were extr

Re: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
more >> than a year or so, so it was defective - 'not up to purpose' is the >> legal phrase, I think. >> >> John Coyle >> Brisbane, Australia >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill >&g

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread Bill
On 14/02/2014 11:41 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 14/2/14, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: It's your fault, really. I was quite prepared to buy the wife a new computer until you suggested how easy keyboard replacement is. If that EVF is not up to Saskatchavision, my name will be mud. I was

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 14/2/14, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: >It's your fault, really. I was quite prepared to buy the wife a new >computer until you suggested how easy keyboard replacement is. If that EVF is not up to Saskatchavision, my name will be mud. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corpora

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread Bill
On 14/02/2014 11:07 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 14/2/14, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: (new Fuji is also on the way). Now I'm really pissed. It's your fault, really. I was quite prepared to buy the wife a new computer until you suggested how easy keyboard replacement is. bill -- PDM

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 14/2/14, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: >(new Fuji is also on the way). Now I'm really pissed. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread John
I also have a Toshiba Satellite, and I'm pretty sure it must be at least as old as yours. It also came preloaded with Windoze Vista, which I never quite took a shine to. It came with two hard drives 160 GB & 240 GB, which I've subsequently replaced with a 500 GB & a 1 TB drive. It has the 4 GB ma

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread John
On 2/13/2014 6:20 PM, Bill wrote: On 13/02/2014 4:03 PM, John wrote: They used to be good quality back when IBM owned the company. They weren't the fastest or the most bang for the buck, but their quality was ROCK SOLID. Who does give you good value for your money in a laptop PC nowadays? Th

Re: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread John
ore than a year or so, so it was defective - 'not up to purpose' is the legal phrase, I think. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Friday, 14 February 2014 7:33 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Su

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread John
On 2/13/2014 6:05 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 13/2/14, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: Note to self, do not EVER buy another Lenovo computer. Friends don't let friends buy Lenovo. FWIW, swapping a keyboard out on a laptop is easier than picking your nose. There will be a video on Youtube

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread Attila Boros
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 13/2/14, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Note to self, do not EVER buy another Lenovo computer. >> >>Friends don't let friends buy Lenovo. > > FWIW, swapping a keyboard out on a laptop is easier than picking your > nose. There will

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread Bill
On 13/02/2014 10:10 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2014-02-13 14:32 Bill wrote but this was for very light home use, my wife does nothing with a home computer beyond a bit of web surfing. She doesn't even have a home email address. given the above premise, i suggest she ditch the laptop and switch

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014, steve harley wrote: > on 2014-02-13 14:32 Bill wrote >> >>but this was for very light home use, my wife does nothing with a home >>computer beyond a bit of web surfing. She doesn't even have a home >>email address. > > given the above premise, i suggest she ditch the laptop an

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014, Bill wrote: > > I only have two criteria that must be met. > It must be Windows 7, and it must not be Lenovo. MacBook Pro, then. (And while I'm making a funny, I'm not kidding, either.) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-14 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014, John Coyle wrote: > > My stepson is still using my ThinkPad from about the same time - with > Windows ME, no less! Either he never connects to the Internet or it's infested with malware. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/

Re: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread David Mann
On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:07 pm, John Coyle wrote: > In Australia, the law is that the retailer has responsibility for repairs to > defective items - and , > IMHO, a keyboard should last more than a year or so, so it was defective - > 'not up to purpose' is > the legal phrase, I think. The law is

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread steve harley
on 2014-02-13 14:32 Bill wrote but this was for very light home use, my wife does nothing with a home computer beyond a bit of web surfing. She doesn't even have a home email address. given the above premise, i suggest she ditch the laptop and switch to a tablet plus a bluetooth keyboard; i wi

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread Igor Roshchin
Bill and John, First, as somebody already wrote in this thread, one should distinguish between the "enterprise" and "consumer" levels of the laptops. There is usually a clear difference in the quality as well as the build quality, and is typically reflected in the price. As for the brands, I hav

Re: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread Rick Womer
essage- From: Rick Womer > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:48 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT: Lenovo Computers > > My workplace supplies one with a Lenovo laptop unless one scrapes together > funds to buy something else. > > The damned things

Re: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread John Mullan
Elitebook are enterprise class machines. Most still ship with Win7 or Win7 Pro as that is what businesses demand. jm -Original Message- From: Rick Womer Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:48 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Lenovo Computers My workplace supplies one with a

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread Rick Womer
My workplace supplies one with a Lenovo laptop unless one scrapes together funds to buy something else. The damned things are as disposable as Kleenex. I've had my MacBook Pro for over 5 years (knock on wood), and a colleague has been through 3 Lenovo laptops in the same time, with less intens

RE: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread John Coyle
Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Lenovo Computers I have a 7 year old Toshiba Satellite that is still running well. The dual core processor and 4 gigs of ram are good enough to support Photoshop CS5.1. It's taken its licks over the years and the pins that hold the top cover/screen down broke off

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread Mark C
I have a 7 year old Toshiba Satellite that is still running well. The dual core processor and 4 gigs of ram are good enough to support Photoshop CS5.1. It's taken its licks over the years and the pins that hold the top cover/screen down broke off when I dropped it a few years ago, but otherwis

RE: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread John Coyle
: Re: OT: Lenovo Computers On 13 Feb 2014, at 21:34, "Bill" wrote: > > A year ago, I bought my wife a Lenovo laptop. Apparently these machines > aren't the best there is, but this was for very light home use, my wife does nothing with a home computer beyond a bit of web s

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 13 Feb 2014, at 21:34, "Bill" wrote: > > A year ago, I bought my wife a Lenovo laptop. Apparently these machines > aren't the best there is, but this was for very light home use, my wife does > nothing with a home computer beyond a bit of web surfing. She doesn't even > have a home email ad

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread Bill
On 13/02/2014 4:03 PM, John wrote: They used to be good quality back when IBM owned the company. They weren't the fastest or the most bang for the buck, but their quality was ROCK SOLID. Who does give you good value for your money in a laptop PC nowadays? That was my next question. I only hav

RE: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread John Coyle
nt: Friday, 14 February 2014 7:33 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: Lenovo Computers A year ago, I bought my wife a Lenovo laptop. Apparently these machines aren't the best there is, but this was for very light home use, my wife does nothing with a home computer beyond a bit of w

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 13/2/14, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: >Note to self, do not EVER buy another Lenovo computer. > >Friends don't let friends buy Lenovo. FWIW, swapping a keyboard out on a laptop is easier than picking your nose. There will be a video on Youtube somewhere of how to do it. And a replacement

Re: OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread John
They used to be good quality back when IBM owned the company. They weren't the fastest or the most bang for the buck, but their quality was ROCK SOLID. Who does give you good value for your money in a laptop PC nowadays? On 2/13/2014 4:32 PM, Bill wrote: A year ago, I bought my wife a Lenovo la

OT: Lenovo Computers

2014-02-13 Thread Bill
A year ago, I bought my wife a Lenovo laptop. Apparently these machines aren't the best there is, but this was for very light home use, my wife does nothing with a home computer beyond a bit of web surfing. She doesn't even have a home email address. Anyway, she told me a month ago that the keyb