Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-03-11 Thread Carlos Royo
Thanks to everyone who gave me information and advice, you have helped me to make a decision. As the K20D is still a bit expensive for me, I have ordered a lightly used K10D Grand Prix Edition and I am looking forward to its arrival. It comes with a DA 18-55 mm. which I don't need, as I

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-26 Thread Cotty
On 25/02/08, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: All other things equal, I would probably wait for prices to come down when they announce the next camera (and use some frequent-flyer miles to go watch Cotty do his thing with his hat.) Stan, it's worrying that your government has so

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-25 Thread Carlos Royo
Boris Liberman escribió: Carlos, I agree with Godfrey to that end that the precision of exposure matters more and more as ISO grows. Generally I shoot between ISO 100 and ISO 320. I used to avoid ISO 640 and up but most recent shooting during that rock show proved me wrong. I have

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-25 Thread Thibouille
Carlos, you may have not to wait too long if you wanna buy a K10D new. You are not the only one wanting to snam a pretty nice deal out of K10D lasting stock. Second hand should OK, sourcing from the guys ditching the K10D for a K20D ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille --

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-25 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 25, 2008, at 9:34, Thibouille wrote: Second hand should OK, sourcing from the guys ditching the K10D for a K20D ;) ...which is my plan, at this point. :-) Fingers crossed! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org --

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-25 Thread Stan Halpin
Did you call? Sorry, have been snoozing here. But I think you said something about people wanting to buy one or two of my K10D's? I'll be right down to take care of that... Seriously, I am very conflicted on this one. I am thinking I might get one K20D, keep one of the K10D's for a backup.

Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Carlos Royo
I am debating if I should buy a K10D (I have an *ist DS) or not. I like the two dials of the K10D (I miss that feature since I sold my Z-1), SR, SDM compatibility, weather sealing and the flexibility given by the configuration options of the K10D. On the other hand, my DS gives me a clean 1600

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Carlos, the best way to proceed for you, I think, is to arrange for simultaneous demonstration. There are cases when I find K10D AF lacking in speed and mechanical hmmm prowess, so to say. HTH. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Carlos Royo
Boris Liberman escribió: Carlos, the best way to proceed for you, I think, is to arrange for simultaneous demonstration. Thanks for your answer, Boris. I have tried a K10D in a shop, with the kit lens, but I'm afraid that using it with the kit lens for a pair of minutes isn't a meaningful

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Boris Liberman
I used MZ-S only briefly for one day back in 2004 in Norway. Prior to that I used Z-1 for one day. I found that I liked the hmmm muscularity of Z-1 more than gentle intelligence of MZ-S (for lack of better words for comparison). The problem with K10D AF (at least with my sample) that sometimes

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Carlos Royo
Carlos Royo escribió: Some of you will remember, perhaps, that I also use two MZ-S bodies. The MZ-S AF performance (SAFOX IV) is much, much better, both in speed and low light focusing, than the *ist DS AF. Obviously, I would like to know how the K10D compares to the MZ-S with regard to

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Boris Liberman
I should add, that recently I've been playing a bit. Although trivial, but it appears that if I force only center sensor to be used in AF'ing then of course it seems that AF becomes faster. As far as I remember MZ-S has less AF sensors than K10D. So perhaps it plays a certain role in the equation.

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Jack Davis
Carlos, If you'd be interested in a general impression. Based solely on my recollection of the focusing speed of the MZ-S (sold in the fall of '07), I'd have to say that the K10D is certainly no slower and it wouldn't surprise me if it were slightly faster. I have no sense of the difference with

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Thibouille
Carlos, I never tried an MZ-S unfortunately but.. * I think the istD (a camera I owned) and istDS (the one you own) is really identical, if I'm not mistaken. * the K10D AF is way faster than istD AF, just not even comparable. I dunno how those compare to the MZ-S however. -- Thibault Massart

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Steve Desjardins
I have a MZ-S, a *ist D, DS, K10D and a very understanding wife. I agree with the center sensor hypothesis suggested by Boris. When set to center only (as I frequently do), AF speeds are very close. The K10D seems to be right on par with the MZ-S if not better. Also, the DSLRs all had cross

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/02/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: I have a MZ-S, a *ist D, DS, K10D and a very understanding wife. Mark. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Cotty wrote: I have a MZ-S, a *ist D, DS, K10D and a very understanding wife. Mark. I understand he has one too. But does it help with auto focus? ]'-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Carlos Royo
Steve Desjardins escribió: I have a MZ-S, a *ist D, DS, K10D and a very understanding wife Thanks for all the info, Steve. It is quite interesting and will helpe me make my mind. And I also have a very understanding wife, in fact she has been insistently telling me to buy the camera, but

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Carlos Royo
Thanks Boris, Steve, Jack, Thibouille, Paul and everyone who is contributing to this thread. Your answers are very useful, the PDML is a great place to stay in, full of nice people. I should have posted this question before instead of debating myself for days. The second part of the question

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Jim King
Carlos Royo wrote on Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:56:05 -0800 Thanks Boris, Steve, Jack, Thibouille, Paul and everyone who is contributing to this thread. Your answers are very useful, the PDML is a great place to stay in, full of nice people. I should have posted this question before instead

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Carlos Royo
Godfrey DiGiorgi escribió: On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Carlos Royo wrote: Thanks Boris, Steve, Jack, Thibouille, Paul and everyone who is contributing to this thread. Your answers are very useful, the PDML is a great place to stay in, full of nice people. I should have posted this

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Carlos Royo
Jim King escribió: Carlos Royo wrote on Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:56:05 -0800 Thanks Boris, Steve, Jack, Thibouille, Paul and everyone who is contributing to this thread. Your answers are very useful, the PDML is a great place to stay in, full of nice people. I should have posted this

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Carlos Royo wrote: Thanks Boris, Steve, Jack, Thibouille, Paul and everyone who is contributing to this thread. Your answers are very useful, the PDML is a great place to stay in, full of nice people. I should have posted this question before instead of

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Mark Erickson
Cotty wrote: On 24/02/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: I have a MZ-S, a *ist D, DS, K10D and a very understanding wife. Mark. What? Oh, yeah. ZX-5, LX, MZ-S, *ist-Ds, K10D. Yep, I have an understanding wife, too -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've never owned a DS, but I have owned a pair of *istD cameras. And I now use a K10D. The K10D is capable of focusing in low-light situations where the D failed me. I also find it's able to stop action with continuous autofocus much better than the D. I would guess that indicates that

Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S

2008-02-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Carlos, I agree with Godfrey to that end that the precision of exposure matters more and more as ISO grows. Generally I shoot between ISO 100 and ISO 320. I used to avoid ISO 640 and up but most recent shooting during that rock show proved me wrong. I have received some quite good shots