Bob,
Gotta watch out for your younger brothers. I believe fate has been kind
to him. Well, that and a engineer or two. Maybe the same engineers
that worked on Dolly Parton?
John Graves
WA1JG
jh.gra...@verizon.net
Bob W wrote:
My younger brother spent Thursday night in hospital after
Bob,
I had a Fiat. just a few years ago...the first smart car (Fiat 650.)
It couldn't hurt a bug, or anything other car for that matter. My
suspension folded in a tight turn (just messing around) and the Fiat
fell over. No scrapes...just indentations from the gravel. To prove my
fantastic
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 30/3/09, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
The next
Defender, BTW, is equipped with air bags. The lack of them in the
current models wasn't a matter of intelligent choice, it was simply a
matter of inadequate resources.
The next
mike wilson wrote:
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 30/3/09, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
The next
Defender, BTW, is equipped with air bags. The lack of them in the
current models wasn't a matter of intelligent choice, it was simply a
matter of inadequate resources.
The
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 30/3/09, Manuel Magalhães, discombobulated, unleashed:
The other thing, I am sure, is the way other drivers get out of your way. A
nice little car with a nice little guy in it. :))
Yesterday I was giving my lad a lift and he pondered on the results
Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote:
mike wilson wrote:
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 30/3/09, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
The next
Defender, BTW, is equipped with air bags. The lack of them in the
current models wasn't a matter of intelligent
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:43:49 +0100
mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
They said that about the Royal Enfield Bullet, in about
1959...
Good lord, do those have air bags now? When will it ever end!
I don't know. Alternators, disc brakes and alloy wheels I suppose.
These
frank theriault wrote:
Think about it: race cars have seatbelts, not airbags. There must be
a reason for that...
cheers,
frank
Race cars also shed energy by disintegrating on impact. Most single
seaters have carbon fiber survival capsules surrounding the driver and
saloon cars or stock
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote:
Race cars also shed energy by disintegrating on impact. Most single seaters
have carbon fiber survival capsules surrounding the driver and saloon
cars or stock cars have full roll cages. Also the seatbelts in a race
Your forehead can survive lots, but not an 80g crash into the bar at
the top of the windshield. Race car drivers wear helmets and that's
why I'm happy with my side airbags. Seatbelts will keep your butt in
place, but not your head. When my brain's gone, just send me to the
organ harvesters.
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Your forehead can survive lots, but not an 80g crash into the bar at
the top of the windshield. Race car drivers wear helmets and that's
why I'm happy with my side airbags. Seatbelts will keep your butt in
place, but
restraint device to keep the head from whipping around ontop of the spine.
jm
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From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Write-off
Your forehead can survive lots
Yes airbags have been proven extremely valuable over and over again.
When I worked on Mercedes advertising, I was able to witness some
offset and full frontal impact crash testing. the airbags provided far
better head protection than seatbelts alone. And side airbags and side
curtain
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Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Write-off
Your forehead can survive lots, but not an 80g crash into the bar at
the top of the windshield. Race car drivers wear helmets and that's
why I'm happy with my side airbags. Seatbelts
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Yes airbags have been proven extremely valuable over and over again. When I
worked on Mercedes advertising, I was able to witness some offset and full
frontal impact crash testing. the airbags provided far better
On Mar 30, 2009, at 2:37 PM, frank theriault wrote:
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
wrote:
Yes airbags have been proven extremely valuable over and over
again. When I
worked on Mercedes advertising, I was able to witness some offset
and full
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: OT: Write-off
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 29/3/09, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed:
Makes me feel
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Write-off
I think all professional racing classes now use a complex head
The other thing, I am sure, is the way other drivers get out of your way. A
nice little car with a nice little guy in it. :))
Best regards,
Manuel
On 09/03/30 10:03, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 29/3/09, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed:
Makes me feel less unprotected by
frank theriault wrote:
Think about it: race cars have seatbelts, not airbags. There must be
a reason for that...
Yeah, seatbelts (harnesses) hold you in place against G forces ...
airbags don't. Let's you drive harder without flying over into the
passenger side of the car. :-)
--
frank theriault wrote:
Shoulder belts will keep your head from hitting the top of the
windshield. In fact I'd advocate 5 point belts for consumer use. Or
at least 4 point belts.
Only if the roof is strong enough that it essentially won't crush
without the car landing upside down from fifty
John Mullan wrote:
Race car drivers wear a multipoint harness including an anti-submarine
strap, and are strapped down tight. You would never put up with their
harness in a street car, let alone being strapped down as tight as they
are. In addition they are in a helmet, and many now are using
On 30/3/09, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:
Your forehead can survive lots, but not an 80g crash into the bar at
the top of the windshield. Race car drivers wear helmets and that's
why I'm happy with my side airbags. Seatbelts will keep your butt in
place, but not your head. When my
On 30/3/09, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
The next
Defender, BTW, is equipped with air bags. The lack of them in the
current models wasn't a matter of intelligent choice, it was simply a
matter of inadequate resources.
The next Defender, if indeed there is such a machine, will not
On 30/3/09, Manuel Magalhães, discombobulated, unleashed:
The other thing, I am sure, is the way other drivers get out of your way. A
nice little car with a nice little guy in it. :))
Yesterday I was giving my lad a lift and he pondered on the results of a
head-on smash with a Smart car. He
On 30/3/09, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:
The next Defender, if indeed there is such a machine, will not be based
on current design. The latest revision (last year)
I meant 2007
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If I drove with my head, I'd be in an Audi or something.
Luckily I drive
with my heart !!
My brother had a Discovery which he drove to extinction before he bought the
Audi. He and his wife drive from Harrogate to their house in the Alps on a
fairly regular basis, with all the ski
My Defender information is based on nothing more than web research I
did when writing an article about Land Rover for amazon.com. A number
of resources suggest that a new Defender/Land Rover is on the way.
That may have changed.
I'm not knocking Defender or Land Rover, BTW. I'd love to
Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2009 9:38 AM
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On 30/3/09, Manuel Magalhães, discombobulated, unleashed:
The other thing, I am sure, is the way other drivers get out of your way.
A
nice little car with a nice little guy in it. :))
Yesterday I was giving
Oh :-(. Just saw this message. Bob, please pass your brother our best
wishes of speedy and complete recovery. Let's hope that the hit wasn't
strong enough to cause your brother any serious or permanent damage...
Boris
Bob W wrote:
My younger brother spent Thursday night in hospital after
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
My younger brother spent Thursday night in hospital after someone drove into
his car at 45 mph (~72kph). The car rolled and my brother was trapped
inside, and had to be cut free by the fire brigade. They strapped him to a
stretcher (like Hannibal
Looks to me like the Fiat clipped the Audi in the left rear hard
enough to spin the car around rapidly enough so it rolled up
onto it's
right side and slid down the road and off into some foliage. The
cutting out the rescue workers did was probably to bust out
the rear
window, go
On 30/3/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
Yea, well, that's in the States. Over here the dealers charge £10,000 just
to change the wipers.
Er just a minute - you want rubber with those?
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On 29/3/09, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed:
Makes me feel less unprotected by my airbags now.
One of the unfortunate things about Land Rover Defenders and their 50-
year old design is the lack of any airbags.
One of the interesting things is that in the 70,000 miles I have done
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
One of the interesting things is that in the 70,000 miles I have done in
2 years in it, I have learned respect for defensive driving.
sounds like me talking about my royal enfield.. ;-))
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Sorry to read about the crash, very glad your brother is ok - buying a
Hummer next?
LF
Bob W escreveu:
My younger brother spent Thursday night in hospital after someone drove into
his car at 45 mph (~72kph). The car rolled and my brother was trapped
inside, and had to be cut free by the fire
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
Yea, well, that's in the States. Over here the dealers charge £10,000 just
to change the wipers.
I could do it for much less than that.
;-)
cheers,
frank
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On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
That car wouldn't be a total write off in the states. It would appear that
the damage is largely cosmetic. Air bags generally deploy on violent side
impacts or sever deceleration. You can have a pretty serious
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 29/3/09, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed:
Makes me feel less unprotected by my airbags now.
One of the unfortunate things about Land Rover Defenders and their 50-
year old design is the lack of any airbags.
One
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
My younger brother spent Thursday night in hospital after someone drove into
his car at 45 mph (~72kph). The car rolled and my brother was trapped
inside, and had to be cut free by the fire brigade. They strapped him to a
My younger brother spent Thursday night in hospital after someone drove into
his car at 45 mph (~72kph). The car rolled and my brother was trapped
inside, and had to be cut free by the fire brigade. They strapped him to a
stretcher (like Hannibal Lecter), took him in for an examination, then let
I'm glad that your brother is not seriously hurt.
My rule of thumb when estimating the cost of body work repairs is that
every body panel (fender, door, hood) that gets damaged will cost
$1,000 to repair/replace. If the body panel is structural, like the
roof, double that.
Add to that the cost
I'm glad that your brother is not seriously hurt.
Thanks.
My rule of thumb when estimating the cost of body work repairs is that
every body panel (fender, door, hood) that gets damaged will cost
$1,000 to repair/replace. If the body panel is structural, like the
roof, double that.
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
My younger brother spent Thursday night in hospital after someone drove into
his car at 45 mph (~72kph). The car rolled and my brother was trapped
inside, and had to be cut free by the fire brigade. They strapped him to a
Bob W wrote:
My younger brother spent Thursday night in hospital after someone drove into
his car at 45 mph (~72kph). The car rolled and my brother was trapped
inside, and had to be cut free by the fire brigade. They strapped him to a
stretcher (like Hannibal Lecter), took him in for an
Scary situation, good outcome.
I note that he was hit by a Fiat. I don't know the model, assume it
is smaller than the Audi. If so, validation of the notion that bigger
is better when it comes to collisions. From the photos it is hard to
see enough damage to write the car off.
How could
In a message dated 3/29/2009 3:38:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
p...@web-options.com writes:
My younger brother spent Thursday night in hospital after someone drove into
his car at 45 mph (~72kph). The car rolled and my brother was trapped
inside, and had to be cut free by the fire brigade.
Bob W wrote:
My younger brother spent Thursday night in hospital after
someone drove into
his car at 45 mph (~72kph). The car rolled and my brother
was trapped
inside, and had to be cut free by the fire brigade. They
strapped him to a
stretcher (like Hannibal Lecter), took him in
Bob W wrote:
you have a brother?
I have 2. And a sister.
Bob
Well, I hope he's in good shape after the crash. Did they cut him out of
the underside of the Audi?
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On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 08:29:13PM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
I'm glad he is okay. You'd think because the car flipped, the airbags would
have deployed. Odd.
Not at all, that's not the sort of acceleration that airbags protect
against. Airbags protect you when you drive
In a message dated 3/29/2009 5:49:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
l...@red4est.com writes:
Makes me feel less unprotected by my airbags now.
Don't worry, on average they are supposed to protect more people than
they harm, and it's a lot easier than putting effort into improving
one's
On Mar 29, 2009, at 17:29 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 3/29/2009 3:38:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
p...@web-options.com writes:
My younger brother spent Thursday night in hospital after someone
drove into
his car at 45 mph (~72kph). The car rolled and my brother was
That car wouldn't be a total write off in the states. It would appear
that the damage is largely cosmetic. Air bags generally deploy on
violent side impacts or sever deceleration. You can have a pretty
serious accident without airbag deployment. Thankfully. Airbags are
expensive.
Paul
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